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[01:47] <lotuspsychje> good morning
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[09:44] <lotuspsychje> !no ltsupgrade is <reply>  Regular upgrades from the last but one LTS release to the latest LTS release, 22.04 "Jammy Jellyfish", are enabled days or weeks after 22.04.1 is released. This delay helps to ensure that any lingering issues are resolved before people upgrade production systems. If you'd prefer to upgrade now, use sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[11:44] <ice9> is it safe to upgrade from 21.10 to 22.04 or better to wait for  22.04.1 ?
[15:53] <teward> ice9: i'd wait for 22.04.1 for any major bugs to get ironed out personally
[15:54] <teward> doesn't mean i'm not going to deploy clean 22.04 systems (servers and such) but i usually wait a bit after initial release to let major major bugs that show up to get ironed out
[15:54] <teward> the only exception to those rules is when you *need* 22.04 for some reason (new hardware etc.) but usually the LTS releases are pretty stable even with that in mind.
[15:55] <teward> (or rather, i mean the previous LTS, 20.04)
[15:55] <leftyfb> the upgrade process won't kick in till 20.04.1 anyway
[15:58] <teward> ^ that, unless you do `do-release-upgrade -d` as lotuspsychje said
[15:58] <teward> but as i also indicated, I would wait until .1
[15:58] <teward> leftyfb: you meant 22.04.1 right?
[15:58] <teward> *hands leftyfb a coffee*
[15:59] <leftyfb> sorry, yeah
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> the factoid needs an update, as we will need it a lot
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade
[15:59] <ubottu> Regular upgrades from the last but one LTS release to the latest LTS release, 20.04 "Focal Fossa", are enabled days or weeks after 20.04.1 is released. This delay helps to ensure that any lingering issues are resolved before people upgrade production systems. If you'd prefer to upgrade now, use sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[16:21] <ice9> teward, when should the .1 released?
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> july i think
[16:22] <teward> august per https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/jammy-jellyfish-release-schedule/23906
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> kk
[17:28] <lotuspsychje> leftyfb: maybe in spam folder?
[17:29] <leftyfb> I was checking the web archive. It's there now. Just took almost 10 minutes to update though
[17:29] <lotuspsychje> ah
[17:29] <lotuspsychje> some of the -server guys mentioned LP mails in gmail spam recently
[17:29] <lotuspsychje> myself aswell, some newsletters
[19:21] <ice9> why firefox is only available in snap?
[19:28] <sarnold> because mozilla wanted more control over the shipped version