[00:17] Is the Time Machine Backup program in the repository? [00:19] Urk: you mean netatalk? [00:19] leftyfb: is that what you recommend for backups? What tools does it use? Does it use rsync? [00:20] Urk: maybe look at deja dup [00:21] https://ostechnix.com/how-to-backup-and-restore-files-using-deja-dup-in-linux/ [00:21] I am looking for a backup program to backup my drive. Prior to using this computer I mainly was on a Debian system, but now I am on an Ubuntu derivant. [00:21] Urk: which derivative? [00:22] Urk: sudo dd if=/dev/sdb|bzip2 -9|sudo dd of=/root/sdb.bz2 (If you want a backup of your entire storage device) [00:23] that is a horrible solution [00:24] Urk: use deja dupe or write your own script with rsync [00:25] Urk: you can also type "backup" into the search in the software center [00:25] Urk: feel free to ask for additional software suggestions in #ubuntu-offtopic [00:29] leftyfb: Why is it? [00:32] hellosmile6: it needs to be run while the machine isn't running or else you'll have data inconsistency or you could be writing to the same filestem which would just keep growing. The time it takes to backup and restore is hours at best. It doesn't help with restoring to new releases of ubuntu. It might not work to be restored on a new machine with different drivers. It might be too big to restore to a new hard drive down the road.... [00:35] leftyfb: I was assuming sdb was an external SDD. [00:35] leftyfb: Ubuntu-Offtopic is a very lonely channel. Someone needs to check the vital signs of Ops ;) [00:36] I have downloaded deja-dup-caja [00:36] Urk: uh [00:36] Urk: you mean you installed it using apt right? [00:39] Yes [00:40] Whats the best "free" place to store backups these days? [00:40] Urk: a hard drive you already have [00:40] What about online storage? [00:40] Urk: again, commercial/free 3rd party services are offtopic here. [00:41] leftyfb: ok, just asking since I am an Ubuntu user. I will ask in the off-topic channel, but its pretty dead over there, and no one is responding to anything. [00:41] Urk: it's almost 9pm EST on a Wednesday night [00:41] you asked one question, and it's niche enough that no one there has an opinion. meh. [00:41] be patient [00:42] leftyfb: Its just that I don't have that many days left on this planet, and concerned no one will respond while I am still alive. I think I am going to put on my epitaph that my computer wouldn't work, and no one would help. [00:43] ah then you won't need backups then :) [00:43] * sarnold whistles o/~ always look on the bright side of life o/~ === popey7 is now known as popey === de-facto_ is now known as de-facto === martums3 is now known as martums [01:53] Hello all! [01:55] I need to reset the admin password for www.ubuntu-PR.org Who can I contact at Canonical to reset the admin password? [02:08] Hello all! [02:15] sonOfRa: Might consider to open a request tracker ticket: https://rt.ubuntu.com/ . === LordofLive is now known as Guest4523 === Guest4523 is now known as POLO [02:35] hi how do I start a snap from the terminal if I have mutiple instances of the snap in different isolations? [02:36] transhumanist: try #snappy [02:37] thanks leftyfb [02:46] hola === POLO is now known as yous === yous is now known as POLO === Juan- is now known as Juan === POLO is now known as yous === yous is now known as POLO === POLO is now known as yous [03:09] !isitoutyet [03:09] Nooope! Ubuntu 22.04 LTS is not released yet, but you are welcome to anticipate it in #ubuntu-release-party [03:11] what's the different between upgrading now and upgrading in a few hours? [03:12] a few hours ;) [03:12] It's effectively the exact same upgrade tho? [03:13] (I guess your answer is yes) [03:13] idk, but I suppose it can be made to be [03:13] ok thanks [03:25] Hello where is documentation on what to do at "Perform MOK Management" after install? [03:25] Context: just installed Ubuntu into a multi-boot setup. Chose options like install third-party software. Set a Secure Boot password in the installer. On first boot after install (choosing "ubuntu") I am presented a screen "Perform MOK management: Continue boot | Enroll MOK | Enroll key from disk | Enroll hash from disk" (BTW this is Dell BIOS) [03:25] Where is documentation on what to do at "Perform MOK Management" after install? [03:29] does anyone know what's happening with jammy's release? [03:29] the schedule says it's today, april 21 [03:30] and i can't find anything anywhere (discourse, blog, etc.) about when it will be released [03:30] !isitout | MrConorAE [03:30] MrConorAE: Nooope! Ubuntu 22.04 LTS is not released yet, but you are welcome to anticipate it in #ubuntu-release-party [03:30] MrConorAE: No specific time is ever given. [03:30] That's intentional. [03:30] ah ok [03:30] was kinda confused about htat [03:30] *that [03:31] out of interest, why is that? [03:31] There's a lot of last minute processes that can fluctuate in the amount of time they take, such as mirror prep, website prep, and quite a few other items. [03:31] because the final-few-days tasks take an unknown amount of time [03:32] ah fair enough [03:32] sarnold and I say the same things with varying levels of verbosity. [03:32] sorry this is my first time running ubuntu when a release comes out [03:32] thanks for the explanation :) [03:33] I think most of the folks working on it are in a time zone where it's still wednesday the 20th :) [03:33] true [03:37] Guest5: hmm, I thought we had some nice docs on what mokmanager looked like.. but I can't find them now. :( this older post may give you some of the context you're hoping for https://askubuntu.com/a/1122704/33812 [03:47] sarnold, thank you, yes documentation is not easily found. [03:49] sarnold, indeed that link does give the context, but it does not indicate what I should do in that context. It does have nice images of MOK management screens though. [03:52] In someone's case they were to "copy the platform key from /var/lib/shim-signed/mok/MOK.der to a USB stick"; is that what I should do for a new install? [03:53] If the MOK screen does not return (it autorestarted several times then went to GRUB, what do I do? Can I get things properly installed after the first boot somehow? [03:54] Or can I get the MOK screen back somehow? [05:00] !ubuntu [05:00] Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com [05:00] !ubuntu-next [05:00] !#ubuntu-next [05:02] !next | mkkjdv [05:02] mkkjdv: Jammy Jellyfish is the codename for Ubuntu 22.04. For technical support, see #ubuntu-next. For testing and QA feedback and help, see #ubuntu-quality. [05:07] hi :) 22.04 stable images are not yet available (at least on some of my closest mirrors) and I have some time to spare to install right now [05:07] can I just use daily iso for amd64? [05:08] I doubt there are some serious differences between this and golden master === irc_standardnick is now known as Iamthepenis === Iamthepenis is now known as irc_standardnick [05:15] is 22.04 out yet? its 12:15 here in central time usa [05:15] 04-21-2022 [05:16] en11gma, should be out today [05:16] i know it will be out today. the question is when? [05:16] ubuntu hasnt missed a final release date yet i dont think [05:19] en11gma, I guess within 6 hours but this will be after my unexpectedly spare time for today :( [05:20] Desktop Operating Systems are becoming increasingly complex and baroque, it would not be surprising if they became more difficult to manage, particularly given the modern "move fast and break things" philosophy. [05:20] hi [05:20] why ppl are so eager to upgrade/upate to 22.04 right away? what new featue you want so badly? [05:20] idk [05:20] New Bugs!@ [05:20] i like to have packages update daily with dev builds [05:21] its a bigger number mkkjdv [05:21] bigger is better [05:21] its more [05:22] i have two system updates that are stuck in a look of downloading, installing, rebooting, and showing as not installed [05:22] loop* [05:23] Guest5, yesss!! new bugs [05:23] always new advantures [05:25] its not right away. ppl have waited 2 years [05:25] every 2 years its a big deal. [05:25] Old bugs bad. New bugs good. [05:25] not at all [05:26] there is always bug even with windows 10 and it was out for how long? [05:26] ;) === fowl6 is now known as fowl [05:36] mkkjdv: much appreciated aesthetic changes + probably better support for my straight up weird hardware ;) [05:46] well, 20.04 kernel version is 5.13 if im not mistaken (if hwe is used). 22.04 kernel verson is 5.15, isnt it? So, not a really huge difference. And for the newer intel hw, 5.16 is needed anyway. [05:46] Actually previous Ubuntu versions didn't work or had video artifacts on my hardware, so I need the newer drivers, after it's working I might not need newer drivers, only security patches ;) [05:50] Speaking of which, in /etc/apt/sources.list, even if changing to mirrors for everything else, should one keep the security repo fixed to security.ubuntu.com ? I'm guessing its so you always get the current info not getting expired data from mirrors. [05:51] (that repo URL is differently formed than the others) [05:59] morning and happy release day === FourTwenty is now known as jiggawatt === Niekdo is now known as Niekdo_ [06:45] bittin: It's out now? [06:46] Alternatively, when is it out? [06:46] !isitout [06:46] Nooope! Ubuntu 22.04 LTS is not released yet, but you are welcome to anticipate it in #ubuntu-release-party [07:02] guys, how do i search for files with >1kb in size? [07:03] wez: still 10 hours === guiverc2 is now known as guiverc [07:08] are the latest patch (https://lore.kernel.org/git/xmqq1qy04iqa.fsf@gitster.g/#t) to support wildcard for safe.directory included in the latest ubuntu git pkg (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/git/1:2.25.1-1ubuntu3.3) for lts srv 20.04 ? [07:16] is it released? [07:16] !isitout [07:16] Nooope! Ubuntu 22.04 LTS is not released yet, but you are welcome to anticipate it in #ubuntu-release-party [07:16] noooooooooo [07:17] hams $ find . -type f -size +1k |see: https://ostechnix.com/find-files-bigger-smaller-x-size-linux/ [07:23] lisbeths`: still around 9,5 hours [07:24] is there any alternative for postman that not uses electron [07:45] Hello! When does 22.04 release today? [07:46] !isitout | jojje [07:46] jojje: Nooope! Ubuntu 22.04 LTS is not released yet, but you are welcome to anticipate it in #ubuntu-release-party [07:50] Hello === kostkon__ is now known as kostkon_ [08:30] is the 22.04 released already? === dionysus70 is now known as dionysus69 [08:32] hey, anyone know when the new LTS will be released? Is that today? === Niekdo_ is now known as Niekdo === JoeBk_ is now known as JoeBk [10:25] Hi guys, when I'm trying to install libmariaclient-dev I have the following output: libmariadbclient-dev install error: Depends: libmariadb-dev (= 1:10.3.34-0ubuntu0.20.04.1) [10:25] What do I need to install? [10:26] libmariadb-dev [10:26] install that first [10:26] then libmariaclient-dev [10:32] Acheron, the error it gives now is: unable to locate package libmariaclient-dev [10:32] its not in the repository then [10:32] what base are you on? [10:33] libmariadbclient-dev [10:34] https://pkgs.org/search/?q=libmariadbclient-dev [10:34] got two fresh ubuntu 20 installs, the chrome app shortcuts, dont appear in window list and is not launchable either, this must be well known? because i experience it on two computers right next to each others, both freshly installed [10:34] libmariadbclient-dev_10.3.22-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb [10:34] Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa) [10:34] I'm using ubuntu 20.04.4 LTS [10:35] im running Ubuntu 20.04.4 LTS \n \l [10:35] csm3105, refresh you apt cache [10:35] apt update [10:35] So i need to do dpkg -i libmariadbclient-dev_10.3.34-0+deb10u1_amd64.deb ? [10:35] then try again [10:35] yeah [10:36] you might have a broken dependency [10:59] !isitout [10:59] Nooope! Ubuntu 22.04 LTS is not released yet, but you are welcome to anticipate it in #ubuntu-release-party [11:01] ah, there's a isitout factoid! [11:01] yeah [11:01] I'm getting a cert error on https://dpaste.org/d2fKZ === antranigv_ is now known as antranigv [11:01] Sorry, https://www.releases.ubuntu.com/22.04/ === antranigv is now known as antranigv_ [11:02] rovanion, well, it is not released yet === antranigv_ is now known as antranigv [11:02] If I cut 22.04 64-bit in half, will that allow me to install 22.04 32-bit? === antranigv is now known as antranigv_ === antranigv_ is now known as antranigv [11:03] ogra: I'm not sure that is relevant. It's the domain name and SSL cert combo that is the issue, not the path of the URL. Have a look at: https://www.releases.ubuntu.com/20.04/ [11:05] rovanion, those are beta versions [11:05] just wait for the official page to be updated [11:05] still 6 hours until 22.04 === antranigv is now known as antranigv_ [11:07] Still not sure that is relevant. The 20.04 page has the same issue. [11:07] The cert is only valid for releases.ubuntu.com but is used on www.releases.ubuntu.com [11:08] are free drinks served at #ubuntu-release-party ? ))) [11:08] Anyone know a name to ping about infra issues? [11:09] thanks, now It's works!! === antranigv_ is now known as antranigv === antranigv is now known as antranigv_ === antranigv_ is now known as antranigv [11:20] rovanion, the quesion is, why did you prepend www. to it ? it is certainly not linked s that from any official sites === antranigv is now known as antranigv_ === antranigv_ is now known as antranigv [11:21] rovanion, but to answer your question ... just scroll down on the page, there is a link to report issues with the page like on every ubuntu site === antranigv is now known as antranigv_ === antranigv_ is now known as antranigv === antranigv is now known as antranigv_ === antranigv_ is now known as antranigv [11:23] ogra: I got there by ddg:ing ubuntu 22.04 release date. Obviously there is content on that web server meant to be read by users and linked from somewhere if it turns up in a search index. Man, what is up with the hostility? [11:23] Found the link myself earlier and here we are: https://www.releases.ubuntu.com/20.04/ [11:24] Ugh: https://github.com/canonical-web-and-design/ubuntu.com/issues/11511 [11:24] Issue 11511 in canonical-web-and-design/ubuntu.com "www.releases.ubuntu.com uses a cert only valid for releases.ubuntu.com" [Open] === antranigv is now known as antranigv_ [11:26] rovanion, 👍 [11:28] oops [11:31] hi everyone..im trying to make a wifi adapter set to always on,wavemon says its POWER MGT:off ..but on powertop the device is GOOD (wake on lan stautus),ideal is BAD so its always on.. there seems to be a conflict on status.so which one is being followed? ubuntu 18.04 here [11:40] is this safe mothod and ppa to install pyton 3.7 on ubuntu 16.04? https://gist.github.com/simonw/7d391ec1fdddd730e0075d963da65f1f [11:43] https://stackoverflow.com/a/57327557 [11:43] how can i check if autosuspend is enabled for a device,the link doesnt say so,any tips pls? [11:47] rainsun, iw dev wlan0 get power_save [11:47] (or however your wlan device is called) [11:47] ogra, txn wil try that [11:48] it says : Power save: off [11:50] so its 2 vs 1.. wavemon & iw dev says : suspend is off.. but powertop is: on.. [11:51] well, i'd trust iw ... [11:51] (if two out of three tools say something and the third says something else it is likely there is a bug in the third ...) [11:52] ayt then :) [11:56] is the command #5 affects all devices connected to usb? or just a specific port? https://www.linux.com/training-tutorials/disable-enable-usb-terminal/ [12:01] is it safe to upgrade from 21.10 to 22.04 or better to wait for 22.04.1 ? [12:01] rainsun, it depends what you bind/unbind ... [12:01] Hi all [12:02] ice9, if you run an interim release anyway it is surely safe ... there might still be some rough edges and known bugs that will only be fixed by .1 though [12:03] ogra, then why it's not safe from LTS to LTS [12:03] 20.4 to 22.04 [12:03] ogra, coz the sample command is not specific to a device,i might loose all usb devices in the process [12:06] its always best to do a fresh install moving from one LTS to another [12:06] rainsun, if you unbind X instead of X-Y the whole root will be gone ... if you unbind only X-Y you only unbind the device ... so it dependsa what you actually echo into sysfs [12:07] ice9, it is simply to raise the quality before upgrade and get more user feedback during the .04 to .04.1 period ... unlike the interim releases LTSes get regular bugfixes [12:09] ogra, echo ‘2-1’ |sudo tee /sys/bus/usb/drivers/usb/unbind '2-1' is the specific device right? [12:11] i cant seem to find the connection or reference for the '2-1' on the ouput of sudo lsusb -t|less [12:13] rainsun, it translates to "port-bus" ... [12:20] ogra, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9zb9z6HKHb/ [12:24] rainsun, 1-2 i'd say ... but if you mess up, you can always just reboot, this is nothing permanent [12:26] will that translate to : echo ‘1-2’ |sudo tee /sys/bus/usb/drivers/usb/unbind ? [12:27] yes [12:28] tnx :) [12:29] no luck,says: tee: /sys/bus/usb/drivers/usb/unbind: No such device [12:30] rainsun: btw your quote characters for the echo string are not ASCII. [12:31] perhaps the IRC client is making them "smart" [12:32] hmm.let me just retype them instead of copy paste [12:34] success. :) [12:35] awesome [12:35] ah, that was the problem? Nice. [12:37] ogra, rob0 proly :) tnx all , plus ogra's coding expertise helped :) [12:37] Sometimes it's a Good Thing to be running IRC in a terminal lacking UTF8 functionality. :) [12:38] (local terminal is Linux console, remote is screen) [12:38] ok nx challeng,lol.. im trying to reinstall an app that doesnot want to launch,i forgot where it came from ,ie: zip,snap,repository,synaptic,deb..i might end up having 2 same app again.any tips pls? [12:40] what app [12:41] telegram.i duno if it has to do w/ slow inet or its busted [12:42] Hi All! Can I upgrade to 22.04 / Jellyfish right now? [12:43] * ogra uses the telegram-desktop snap over here just fine [12:43] !isitout | DumbLDoor [12:43] DumbLDoor: Nooope! Ubuntu 22.04 LTS is not released yet, but you are welcome to anticipate it in #ubuntu-release-party [12:43] ty @ ogra & ubottu [12:44] for the HWE kernel versions, will the last point release always be available? For example 20.04 is currently at 5.13, if they ever moved to a newer version such as 5.16 would the last 5.13 still be available in the APT repository? [12:44] Tg is not showing on system monitor processes after clicking,so i guess its not launching or loading [12:45] !isitout [12:45] Nooope! Ubuntu 22.04 LTS is not released yet, but you are welcome to anticipate it in #ubuntu-release-party [12:45] Good bo [12:45] *bot [12:46] I want to pin an image build script to a specific kernel version when installing the HWE kernel, as I'm using some features that are tied to the kernel version, so just running "apt-get install linux-generic-hwe-20.04" colud cause issues if the kernel upgrade to 5.16 [12:46] !letitout :-) [12:47] simultaniously it seems I cannot pin to a specific version such as '5.13.0.39.44~20.04.24' because Ubuntu delete older versions from the APT repository when they release a newer version [12:48] Is there an alternative way I can download a specific HWE kernel version for 20.04 other than having to use mainline? [12:49] well, 5.11 was the 21.04 kernel (and was hwe on focal), and it's still in the repos [12:49] !info linux-image-5.11.0-46-generic focal [12:49] linux-image-5.11.0-46-generic (5.11.0-46.51~20.04.1, focal): Signed kernel image generic. In component main, is optional. Built by linux-signed-hwe-5.11. Size 11,245 kB / 11,504 kB. (Only available for amd64, arm64, ppc64el, s390x.) === mkv is now known as m4v [12:50] I'm using 20.04 LTS with the HWE kernel, my image build script has "apt-get -y install linux-generic-hwe-20.04=5.13.0.39.44~20.04.24", the goal was to produce a consistent image each time [12:50] chilversc, hwe versions are rolling ... whatever is in the latest ubuntu release will be backported to it ... so you cn not pin to a specific version [12:50] yeah, I mostly need to ensure that I will always remain on the 5.13 kernel, as newer kernels break things at the moment [12:50] s/to it/to the LTS/ [12:51] but also older kernels break things [12:51] get the new kernls fixed ? [12:51] working on that, but it will be 5.18 at a minimum, and probably 5.19 by now [12:52] I was hoping the highest point release would still be retained so that I could install something like; 5.13.* [12:52] without having the image build script randomly stop working in the future [12:53] well, the kernels are only supported for the lifetime of the release they come from [12:53] and since HWE usually comes from interim releases ... [12:54] yeah, I didn't want to go back to using mainline though, since that won't include any of the 20.04 specific patches, so was hoping there was somewhere else I could download the 5.13 debs from instead of using APT if APT doesn't retain the packages? [12:59] yeah, mainline is not relly an option for production systems ... [13:01] why /lib/modules/5.13.0-39-generic/build/include/linux/modversions.h isnt found? [13:02] how can i fix that? [13:02] ogra: hence my issue, this script really needs to be reliable so that it produces the same image each time, but I cannot have the script randomly upgrading the kernel version because this system is very sensitive to kernel versions and running untested/mixed kernel versions would be an issue [13:04] its for compile for ftdi_sio, the adapter doesn´ t work [13:05] chilversc, you know that when a kernel is upgraded, it's because of some vulnerabilities, right ? [13:05] chilversc, you can always save those kernel packages and then pin apt not to update [13:07] ioria, that would be great if Ubuntu did not introduce so many regressions in kernel updates! [13:07] Acheron, i don't think it' s on purpose [13:08] usually if there is a severe vulnerability it will be announced and then you can decide if its worth the risk [13:09] just speaking for myself, i do not update the kernel every time there is an update [13:09] especially if there is no change log present [13:09] i just skip it [13:10] YMMV === ghvail|wtf is now known as ghavil [13:12] Acheron, what do you mean by "there is no changelog present" ? [13:14] that is pretty self explanatory [13:14] i'll hush up now [13:14] Acheron: I can't though since all I'm doing is producing scripts that other people then run in their own environments [13:16] ioria: sure, so I'm happy to take the latest 5.13 kernel, but I specifically need that version until the issues in the newer versions have been resolved [13:16] Acheron, you men having all the commits in git is not enough ? https://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu-stable/ubuntu-stable-jammy.git/log/ [13:17] ioria: I need some reliable source for the latest 5.13 packages, and it appears I cannot rely on APT for that [13:18] otherwise I'll have no choice but to going back to using mainline in the script, which is what I had to do before 5.13 was available under HWE [13:18] Is cryptsetup the current way to set up encrypted swap? [13:18] chilversc: why can't you rely on the kernel packages available in ubuntu? [13:18] Guest5: it is a valid way to encrypt swap [13:19] leftyfb: I specifically require 5.13, and it seems if I have something like "apt-get install -y 'linux-generic-hwe-20.04=5.13.*'" that could stop working in the future if 20.04 were to move to a newer kernel such as 5.16 [13:20] chilversc, you could run your own archive and keep the desired version in it [13:20] chilversc: what's wrong with upgrading from 1 LTS kernel to another? [13:20] leftyfb, thanks! [13:20] leftyfb: 5.16 I ran into some issues with kernel threads freezing, 5.17 has a new FS-Cache implementation that is currently too slow [13:20] !isitoutyet [13:20] Nooope! Ubuntu 22.04 LTS is not released yet, but you are welcome to anticipate it in #ubuntu-release-party [13:20] leftyfb, they said above it breaks things ... and the upstream kernel fix will only be in 5.18 onwards [13:21] leftyfb: though I havn't explicitly tested 5.14 or 5.15 [13:21] ogra: and we don't think these kernel regressions will be fixed? [13:21] and 5.11 has an mdraid bug that causes kernel panics [13:21] Chunkyz: please stop with that. This isn't the place [13:21] where is located? [13:22] leftyfb, they will ... but perhaps not in 5.16 [13:22] Guest8376, sudo apt install apt-file; sudo apt-file update; apt-file search asm/linkage.h [13:22] leftyfb: calm yourself. I done it *once*... [13:22] ogra: so Canonical will release an HWE kernel with a known regression with no plans to fix it? That doesn't sound right [13:23] ogra: I don't really have a way to maintain a repository, this script isn't actually for my use, its just published to a github repository so that other people can build this image themselves, so that would require other people to maintain their own repository [13:23] Chunkyz: twice [13:23] leftyfb, not if the kernel team doesnt know 😉 [13:23] chilversc: did you file a bug? [13:24] leftyfb: again, calm yourself. :-) [13:24] leftyfb: yeah, not sure exactly what happened maybe its also an issue in 5.13 and 5.16 got better at detecting it, but in 5.16 when cachefilesd was running into an issue all my nfsd threads would get locked up [13:24] leftyfb: not much point, fs-cache was completley re-wrote in 5.17 and seems to have fixed the issue, its just 5.17 is limited to 30~40 MB/s when reading through fs-cache at the moment, patches are being worked on to fix it, but it makes 5.16 & 5.17 unusable [13:25] you can always save the .deb packages from a given kernel and install them and then pin APT from any further kernel updates [13:25] chilversc: file a bug against 5.16 in ubuntu. [13:26] you mean bug reports that tend to get ignored? [13:26] Ubuntu needs a better bug reporting system [13:27] Acheron: the issue is this isn't an environment I control, its just a bash script I'm publishing in github, so I need some reliable source to download the package from as part of the script [13:28] poor QC is why i don't update the kernel on every update [13:28] Acheron: take your ubuntu rants to #ubuntu-offtopic or file bugs [13:28] i'm stating a f-a-c-t [13:28] not a rant [13:28] ArchDave: this is a support channel. Please stay on topic [13:29] leftyfb: I could do, but that still doesn't help my script issue, as I'd still be in trouble if the HWE kernel was updated to 5.17, though that's probaly unlikely for 20.04 [13:30] chilversc: the goal would be to get the fix released before August. That's very possible but not if you don't file the bug [13:30] oh, is 22.04 going to use 5.17 now? [13:30] no [13:30] oh, 22.04, I don't know [13:30] 20.04 will be getting and stopping at 5.16 [13:31] Ubuntu 22.04 Desktop uses Linux Kernel 5.17 [13:31] release day today right ? [13:31] oops [13:31] Battaglin: /join #ubuntu-release-party [13:32] Battaglin: later [13:32] oops [13:32] that changed [13:32] leftyfb: could do, though it's a bug within a bug, as I have to hammer an NFS re-export server with 50 clients for a few hours, then when cachefilesd stops culling drop the slab cache a few times, at which point cachefilesd and nfs completly fall over [13:32] nope its just later today [13:32] chilversc: feel free to put all of this information in your bug report [13:33] Ubuntu 22.04 features Linux Kernel 5.15 LTS [13:33] my mistake earlier [13:39] leftyfb: thnx [13:50] I see 2 bugs reported regarding JJ, and one of them is critical. Does it block the relase of JJ today? [13:50] unlikely ... [13:51] the release is only blocked if there are issues withpackages that are on the images, with installer bits or system defaults ... everyting else can just go into the archive and will land in your install with the first upgrade [13:52] (or with the upgrade that runs in background during install even) [13:52] what's a cleaner way to list kernels i have installed other than apt list --installed | grep linux-image ? [13:53] i'm trying to capture a certain kernel version but i want to store it in a variable [13:54] i want grab everything from 5.4 to aws and store in a variable [13:55] the line i'm interested in looks like linux-image-5.4.0-1072-aws/focal-updates,focal security,now 5.4.0-1072.77 amd64 [installed,automatic] [13:55] jongsta: apt list --installed 2>/dev/null|awk -F/ '/linux-image/ {print $1}' [13:59] thanks leftyfb. any suggestions for capturing just the 5.4 through aws portion? [14:00] i guess i could just do a | grep 5.4 [14:04] jongsta: apt list --installed 2>/dev/null|awk -F/ '/linux-image-5.4.*generic/ {print $1}' === Guest6064 is now known as POLO [14:05] we're using the linux-aws-lts-20.04 package to install the kernel so it's not generic [14:06] ok, ajust accordingly [14:06] adjust* [14:06] as long as there's no possibility that there's a - after 5.4 instead of a . (period) [14:06] linux-image-5.4* [14:06] linux-image-5.4.* [14:07] i'm not completely familiar with how versioning works [14:07] .* is part of regex, not the version [14:07] right, but if for example there was a kernel version that could be like linux-image-5.4-something [14:07] i don't think that is the case [14:08] but would ruin that query [14:08] linux-image-5.4.* will catch "linux-image-5.4-something" [14:08] linux-image-5.4.* means anything that starts with linux-image-5.4 [14:08] ah ok. i thought it would require the . [14:08] got it [14:10] really what i want is to just print from 5.4 to aws though [14:11] so it would read "5.4.0-1072-aws" [14:14] ~ [14:19] привет [14:21] I have a 21.10 install, I changed /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades to say prompt=lts, run do-release-upgrade, and it says "no dev version available" when I do-release-upgrade, but if I run do-release-upgrade -d, it says there's a release available, lol [14:21] 21.10 is the latest release [14:26] mybalzitch: Ubuntu 22.04 is not yet released and is still considered development. As far as do-release-upgrade is concerned, that will still be the case until sometime in August when 22.04.1 is released [14:28] Has beignet-opencl-icd been renamed to something else in Jammy, or has it just been removed entirely? [14:35] !next | WereCatf [14:35] WereCatf: Jammy Jellyfish is the codename for Ubuntu 22.04. For technical support, see #ubuntu-next. For testing and QA feedback and help, see #ubuntu-quality. [14:38] A question about a package doesn't seem to me like it belongs in either technical support or QA feedback and help [14:38] that also fits under jammy support WereCatf [14:39] Well, ok [14:45] Join party channel? [14:45] Launch* [14:46] j2bv16: /join #ubuntu-release-party [15:06] where do the patches, build scripts, etc live for the various kernel packages? I was looking at https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/linux-image-5.4.0-1072-gcp and I cannot figure out where the actual kernel comes from for that package. [15:15] where is python-clips in focal ? the package is broken in pip3 [15:17] Hello, Any links/help/hints to successful Ubuntu Desktop LTS autoinstall, either via pxe (maas) or via just plugging and booting of usb stick which will finish autoinstall? [15:21] oliverb, https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/automated-server-installs/16612 === Guest9366 is now known as fsdfweafwf [15:41] Hiya, for a fresh install of ubuntu when an old install already exists in a dual boot w/ windows, would it be advisable to delete the old ubuntu + grub partitions then install again [15:41] or just run the live usb and install on top of the old install without messing with the partitions [15:43] ogra: Thank you, looking for info on Desktop, not server. Thanks anyways. [15:43] install rootpart to a sep subvol or partition, rename /boot/grub to /boot/grub.bak? [15:43] that is, you don't *have to* rename old grub [15:44] but eh, once you boot back into the old system you may wanna remove the grub-package (but leave -bin) [15:45] hmmm, i might just nuke grub + ubuntu. I don't know if I trust myself not to break something :D [15:47] thanks [15:50] how do I run wayland? It does not appear as an option in the gdm login scree? [15:50] screen? [15:50] I have enabled wayland in that config file [15:52] Will autoinstall work on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Desktop? [15:54] transhumanist, do you have an nvidia GPU? [15:56] transhumanist, if this is 22.04, there is a bug that is being fixed with the first update [15:59] Ubuntu 22.04 LTS is the best [15:59] ok thenk I will wait for the next version then ogra thanks [16:00] yes I have an older nvidia video card that has like 50 cuda cores [16:01] I really need like 20k worth of computer equipment but have a computer worth $25 bucks...lol [16:05] I believe this is the bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1968929 [16:05] Launchpad bug 1968929 in gdm3 (Ubuntu Jammy) "Missing Wayland login option on NVIDIA systems" [High, In Progress] [16:06] so canonical is releasing 22.04 when? google says its to be released today? [16:06]