[00:00] <leftyfb> Intelo: that is not my call
[00:00] <Intelo> does anyone has a recomendation? if its stable, why not?
[00:00] <thingfish> yeah man that's kind of up to you to decide.
[00:00] <thingfish> exactly
[00:00] <Intelo>  if its stable, why not?
[00:00] <thingfish> sounds good to me, go for it.
[00:01] <thingfish> I like it fine.  I'm new to Ubuntu though.
[00:01] <Intelo> ok
[00:01] <Intelo> the -d puts me thinking though
[00:02] <Bashing-om> Intelo: -d  for (D)evelopment version as 22.04 holds that status until the .1 release.
[00:02] <jhutchins> Ok, we have Apple One, we have Siri, and we have Apple TV.  Can we get iTunes on the big stere
[00:03] <jhutchins> o
[00:03] <jhutchins> Please excuse the odd spontaneous paste.  I'm working on it, but it still happens.
[00:04] <Intelo> Bashing-om once the release .1 is made, I do 'apt upgrade' after that, I will get the .1 release?
[00:06] <Bashing-om> Intelo: Yeah - that is in the normal course of events - ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' will pull in the updates including those asspciated with .1 .
[00:10] <Intelo> Bashing-om so it seems I just have to do -d for now and nothing special later
[00:16] <Bashing-om> Intelo: To be clear in 20.04 doing ' sudo apt update ; sudo do-release-upgrade -d ' will bring you onto 22.04.
[00:17] <Intelo> ya
[00:17] <Intelo> Bashing-om and after that, nothing special needs to be done?
[00:19] <Bashing-om> Intelo: Generally no - But a lot depends on how you may have configured things such as unattended-upgrades packages .
[00:19] <Intelo> ok
[00:19] <Intelo> thank you
[00:20] <Bashing-om> Intelo: :D Help is what we do.
[00:21] <Intelo> Bashing-om :)
[00:24] <morganu> leftyfb, I just listened to some framework stuff and it sounds like nothing new that I didnt know was also happening in the late 1960's. So many words. Obfustification is job security I guess.
[00:25] <leftyfb> morganu: you might try /join python
[00:35] <morganu> leftyfb, look at this. I am going to be better at explaining all this than these YT guys. (heh)   https://rahmonov.me/posts/write-python-framework-part-one/
[00:36] <morganu> Learn how to write your own framework in Python!
[00:37] <leftyfb> morganu: ok, at this point you should /join #python or #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss further
[00:38] <morganu> whatever. Looks like something to keep me busy. And thanks for the link to VS that started all this exploration. Thanks ravage.
[00:38] <morganu> cool. thanks leftyb
[01:36] <forgotmynick> hello, my windows machines can ping each other using their link-local ipv6, and can ping the link local ipv6 address of a ubuntu machine, however, the ubuntu machine can't ping the ipv6 of the windows machines which appear to contain a % symbol. can someone tell me wtf i'm going wrong please
[01:39] <forgotmynick> hmm if i change the %19 to %eth0 it works
[01:41] <JackKnife> Not sure where to ask, but technically I should be able to access files from my system onto another system that's connected to the same modem? The other machine I'm interfacing with is Windows 10, so I'm not sure if that matters too?
[01:44] <tomreyn> JackKnife: by "modem", do you mean a network switch, or a network router (which may also work as some form of modem)?
[01:47] <tomreyn> JackKnife: asking differently (in case that's easier): do both computers have an ip address from the same network assigned and 'can ping' each other?
[01:49] <Guest69> will "sudo do-release-upgrade" upgrade you do to 22.04?
[01:51] <Crucifyy> sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[01:51] <Bashing-om> !ltsupgrade | Guest69 No, not at this time --- this:
[01:52] <Guest69> thanks
[02:07] <td123> congrats on getting 22.04 out the door!
[02:09] <Bashing-om> td123: It is a smashing success - sneak peak: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue732 .
[02:47] <dacompchomp> how do i cange my firmware from BIOS to EFI (/UFI)? I've been having problems with my sound, tried everything, nothing worked. I think that's because it was a firmware issue this whole tiem
[02:47] <dacompchomp> time*
[02:48] <leftyfb> BIOS/UEFI isn't going to affect your sound
[02:48] <leftyfb> dacompchomp: BIOS vs. UEFI isn't going to affect your sound
[02:49] <dacompchomp> leftyfb: oh i thought it affected sound drivers?
[02:49] <thingfish> dacompchomp: what kind of problems?
[02:51] <dacompchomp> thingfish: only dummy output. ive taken the advice of people on the forums and this irc, but its only made the problem worse (now i have dummy output in my earbuds, too, not just for my inbuilt speaker). i even tried running debian nonfree live from my usb, and i was still getting dummy output. so im not sure whats going on. i know that its not a hardware issue (the sound worked fine when i had apple's os installed)
[02:52] <thingfish> hmm
[02:53] <leftyfb> uh
[02:53] <leftyfb> dacompchomp: is this a mac?
[02:53] <dacompchomp> leftyfb: unfortunately yes. a mac desktop
[02:53] <thingfish> I get/got buzzing and static from my speakers anytime the audio subsystem was idle.  I don't know if this is anything like what you're experiencing though dacompchomp.
[02:55] <dacompchomp> thingfish: no, ive heard other people on the forums discuss that problem. this one seems to be different though
[02:55] <thingfish> ah
[02:56] <dacompchomp> what are the odds that changing the fireware should fix this issue?
[02:57] <leftyfb> it's a mac, they do weird things. In this case it might need to be UEFI. Enabling that is beyond the scope of this channel though. Maybe try #hardware
[02:58] <dacompchomp> leftyfb: thanks for your guidance. ill check out the hardware channel
[03:04] <Jasonwiz> hello guys
[03:18] <geosmile> Add docker repository - When I do that on 20.04 - no problem. In 22.04 - this hangs - anyone knows why?
[03:23] <transhumanist> HI! so I have received no answer to this question on snappy channel or in snappy forum. Anyone know how to list all the snaps associated with the store vs unstore related snaps, I am getting : error: cannot install local and store snaps at the same time
[03:23] <jStefan> geosmile, describe hang better, and maybe get some console output ?
[03:24] <leftyfb> transhumanist: all supported snaps are from the snap store.
[03:25] <geosmile> jStefan, https://dpaste.org/nuQS0
[03:26] <geosmile> I'm using ansible to add a docker repo. This is what it hangs on
[03:26] <leftyfb> geosmile: does the command work manually?
[03:27] <geosmile> This is the offending command -> add-apt-repository "deb [arch=amd64] https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu $(lsb_release -cs) stable"
[03:29] <dacompchomp> hellow good people. i was here about 30 minutes ago, then i was sent to #hardware to get help from them there. now the folks over at harware have send me here. they say that i should send you guys this: https://termbin.com/zkrg so that i can get help making a proper hardware report
[03:29] <jStefan> lsb_release, gives back the ubuntu release name, which may not be here: https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu/dists/
[03:29] <dacompchomp> hello *
[03:29] <jStefan> geosmile, ^
[03:29] <jStefan> actually jammy is there, nevermind
[03:29] <jStefan> read to quick
[03:29] <leftyfb> geosmile: does the command work manually?
[03:30] <geosmile> leftyfb, not sure that is easy to test - this is a gitlab ci - inside an aws image created dynamically.
[03:30] <leftyfb> geosmile: then we cannot troubleshoot it
[03:31] <geosmile> if anyone has 22.04 - perhaps they can try that command and see if that works?
[03:31] <leftyfb> dacompchomp: https://itsfoss.com/fix-sound-ubuntu-1304-quick-tip/
[03:32] <transhumanist> so leftyfb you're saying I have to completely wipe the snap install in order to test my own snaps?
[03:32] <transhumanist> on ubuntu 22.04
[03:32] <leftyfb> geosmile: the repo gets added just fine. It'll need the key after, but that would be a separate task
[03:32] <dacompchomp> thanks, i have tried these but i will try again. (ive tried more or less everything at this point... not sure what to do)
[03:33] <leftyfb> transhumanist: you need to be asking for help with this in #snappy. Wait till tomorrow
[03:33] <transhumanist> ok
[03:34] <dacompchomp> oh i see u send that to me for the hardware report, not the audio fixing. thanks, ill use that info
[03:35] <geosmile> leftyfb, did it ask you anything on the keyboard?
[03:35] <geosmile> yes/no etc?
[03:35] <leftyfb> geosmile: yes
[03:36] <leftyfb> geosmile: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/ZVkJ3zQRDy/
[03:36] <jStefan> why do some user have an "[m]" suffic, does it mean something ?
[03:36] <leftyfb> geosmile: you need to add a -y
[03:36] <jStefan> suffix*
[03:36] <leftyfb> jStefan: matrix network/irc bridge
[03:37] <leftyfb> geosmile: I would highly suggest spinning up a jammy lxd container so you can test these things
[03:53] <de-facto> i really like the new release its absolutely awesome
[04:28] <Intelo> How can I make sure that its my firewall not allowing connections. Not the firewall at vps provider side? where are denied logs for certain ports and ips? ufw status shows 'inactive' though
[07:05] <Guest5> what recommendations do you have for virtualizing a guest OS (including a desktop environment)?
[07:09] <ksy> virtualbox?
[07:17] <libera-dev> hi ubuntu
[07:17] <libera-dev> how should i create username
[07:30] <Guest5> I'm most familiar with virtualbox, I wonder how the alternatives stack up
[07:33] <fahim> hi
[07:37] <Jasonwiz> hello
[07:48] <Jasonwiz> hello guys
[07:55] <weedmic> I am connected to one of my remote machines via ssh.  I see it can/has connected in the past to 4 different wifi networks.  I want to see which one it is connected to now.  I am not allowed to install anything and it is does not have nmcli.  Any ideas on how I can see/tell to which network it is actually connected?
[07:56] <Jasonwiz> try running a command
[07:56] <weedmic> :D
[07:56] <weedmic> like?
[07:57] <Jasonwiz> wlan config
[07:57] <Jasonwiz> wlanstat
[07:58] <weedmic> ty - reminded me it was iwgetid
[08:00] <Jasonwiz> which os the remote machines running
[08:02] <dreamon>  hello. having an old 19.10 installation. is it possible to upgrade it to 20.04. It tells me no internet connection during update process. but have internet access. think 19.10 server links are disabled.
[08:02] <weedmic> a very old ubuntu, let me check
[08:03] <weedmic> i have to send in a new spreadsheet first
[08:03] <Jasonwiz> 19 aint old
[08:04] <weedmic>  4.4.113
[08:05] <benni> Are there smaller server install images (< 1 GB) for Ubuntu 22.04 ?
[08:05] <dreamon> I've forgotten to upgrade.. now seems to late?
[08:05] <weedmic> you can't upgrade even with apt?  I find when the desktop gui doesn't let, apt has never failed me.
[08:07] <dreamon> no .. it would like to update first all packages. but that dont work. apt upgrade, too.
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[08:49] <Guest899> after upgrade to 22.04 I get error failed to start bluetooth managmant mechanism and I can not boot any suggestions, advices, links...
[08:58] <Guest899> anyone, please
[08:58] <ick> @Guest899, are you here?
[08:59] <Guest899> yes
[08:59] <ick> Do you know how to enter the BIOS settings?
[08:59] <Guest899> yes I hope so
[09:00] <ick> Enter the BIOS settings. If there is an option to turn off the Bluetooth hardware, do that. T
[09:00] <ick> Then try to boot without the bluetooth hardware.  If the system boots, that's a good sign.
[09:00] <Guest899> and i not what to do then
[09:01] <ick> Then try to install third party drivers / firmware.
[09:02] <Guest899> everything is massed up after upgrade I had good working 20.04
[09:03] <Guest899> I think I will go for reinstall
[09:03] <Guest899> tnx for your time ick
[09:06] <ick> That would be frustrating. Farewell Guest899, I hardly knew ye.
[09:10] <blaster> Is there anything not networking related that would cause online videos to buffer constantly?
[09:11] <blaster> My network seems fine, and no buffering problem in a guest VM, but the host constantly gets buffering on online videos, with no signs of any network problems.
[09:11] <ktwo> Kinda a good example why Ubuntu is not ready to be used in work environments xD  Sure upgrades can go wrong with Windows too, but usually anything can be fixed by regular users without deep system knowledge.
[09:11] <ktwo> What video exactly ? i guess it depends on the codec
[09:12] <aktive> hello
[09:12] <aktive> how do I upgrade to 22.04
[09:12] <aktive> Ive tried sudo apt dist-upgrade
[09:12] <blaster> ktwo, any youtube videos, and I tried twitch as well with the same problem.
[09:12] <gordonjcp> ktwo: I don't think you can compare them, people tend not to upgrade between major Windows versions
[09:13] <aktive> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:13] <blaster> No other devices in my house are having the issue, even a guest VM on the ubuntu 22.04 machine streams videos fine.
[09:13] <blaster> Using a bridged adapter.
[09:14] <ktwo> Hm really strange.. are you using a fresh browser without any strange plugins or adblockers?
[09:14] <blaster> Yeah, to be sure I confirmed it happens on both Chrome and Firefox.
[09:15] <ktwo> it kinda makes no sense if it works on a guest vm on the same machine oO, both same ubuntu version?
[09:15] <blaster> Host is 22.04 and guest is Windows 10.
[09:17] <blaster> I might try a livecd to see if it happens there.
[09:17] <ktwo> Ah ok, maybe windows is able to use some hardware acceleration and for some reason it is not working on your host
[09:18] <ktwo> if you enable "stats for nerds" on both browsers, do you see a difference?
[09:19] <blaster> I'll see if I can do that.  Give me a minute.
[09:20] <aktive> hello
[09:21] <aktive> I need help upgrading to 22.04
[09:21] <ktwo> did you run "apt update" and "apt upgrade" before "dist-upgrade"?
[09:23] <blaster> On the suspect machine, this value doesn't change: "Viewport / Frames 1280x720 / 0 dropped of 4"
[09:23] <blaster> But on the guest VM streaming a video properly, the 4 is a constantly increasing number.
[09:23] <blaster> Buffer health and connection speed are about the same.
[09:23] <ktwo> and the codec is vp9 on both?
[09:24] <blaster> av01 on the suspect machine
[09:24] <blaster> vp09 on the guest
[09:24] <ktwo> hmm what gpu?
[09:25] <blaster> intel onboard graphics
[09:25] <blaster> never had an issue like this in over 5 years using this machine though
[09:25] <ktwo> intersting., let me check on mine.. i installed ubuntu 22.04 freshly on my Matebook with Intel integrated
[09:26] <blaster> thanks I appreciate the help
[09:26] <ktwo> on the mbp it's also using vp09 without issues
[09:27] <ktwo> Ok, on my matebook also vp09, fluently without issues on Chrome (Installed with the official *.deb) package by google
[09:28] <blaster> I also installed through the official .deb package.  It's worked since installing 22.04 so this is a new issue.
[09:29] <ktwo> also checking with firefox..seems the same.. hmm..what cpu exactly ? mine is UHD Graphics 620 with i5 8250
[09:30] <blaster> i7 4770K
[09:31] <ktwo> open this: chrome://gpu and check if video decode is "hardware accellerated"
[09:31] <blaster> When I hover video thumbnails it plays the the preview properly.
[09:32] <blaster> Video Decode: Software only. Hardware acceleration disabled
[09:33] <ktwo> Yea that could be a hint.. on windows its Hardware acceleration enabled?
[09:33] <blaster> No it's the same there.
[09:34] <blaster> It's not like the video really buffers though.  It shows the spinner upon loading, but never really proceeds.
[09:35] <ktwo> is the cpu load very high during that?
[09:36] <blaster> Only about 20%
[09:39] <blaster> ktwo, I just disconnected on of my monitors by accident when I was trying to plug in a USB to test a livecd, and the video started playing.
[09:39] <blaster> But when I reconnected the monitor, it stopped.
[09:40] <blaster> It's a triple monitor setup.
[09:40] <ktwo> hmm.. but without the monitor it still says hw-acceleration disabled?
[09:42] <blaster> Yes
[09:42] <ktwo> Actually i just checked on mine, it is also disabled, damn :P video runs ok , but cpu load is almost 80%
[09:42] <ktwo> that could explain some weird battery drain i was experiencing
[09:43] <blaster> Well Im glad this might help you aswell.
[09:43] <blaster> Videos work perfectly without that 3rd monitor plugged in.
[09:43] <ktwo> are the monitors the same?
[09:43] <ktwo> or different ones
[09:44] <blaster> The same, I just have them plugged into each of the DVI, HDMI and DP ports on my motherboard.
[09:45] <ktwo> i'm not aware that youtube uses drm , but i know that netflix refuses to play if there are any monitors connected which are not hdcp-compilant
[09:45] <blaster> It happens with Twitch streams as well.
[09:46] <blaster> I've noticed the 3 monitor setup feels a bit glitchier than it was on 18.04 before I upgraded.
[09:46] <ktwo> so with 2 monitors ok with 3 not ok?
[09:47] <ktwo> and it does not matter which port it is?
[09:47] <blaster> The one that I tried is direct HDMI to HDMI.  I'll try one of the other ones.
[09:49] <ueberall> Hi. Where would I find information regarding the GA of https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta-hwe-5.15 for Ubuntu Focal?
[09:49] <blaster> ktwo, so I disconnected the HDMI to DP monitor and it didn't cure it with that one.
[09:50] <ktwo> i just tried by plugging in hdmi to my notebook, works without issues (other than the high cpu load)
[09:51] <ktwo> need to figure out if there is a way to enable the hw-accelleration on ubuntu
[09:52] <ktwo> it's sad to see that even in 2022 there are still so many hardware-issues with linux especially if things get "more special". for example the fingerprint reader of my matebook is also "dead"
[09:52] <blaster> I guess a lot of that falls upon the manufacturers that don't tailor any drivers towards Linux.
[09:54] <blaster> Well I'm glad I narrowed it down to a hardware or software problem.  I was bugging the guys in #networking for like 3 hours.
[09:54] <blaster> That being said, I have my doubts that there will be an easy solution.
[09:55] <ktwo> Yea i know the fingerprint reader is probably ok with it not working, i think it's huawei's fault. But there is also more standardized hardware which doesn't work properly
[09:55] <blaster> I guess I can try an 18.04 live cd to see if something on my hardware went kapoot or if it's an upgrade issue.
[09:55] <ktwo> for example i have a pair of a2dp taotronic headphones which are unable to pair on ubuntu. on mac and windows they work without any issues
[09:56] <blaster> Bluetooth?
[09:56] <ktwo> Yea
[09:56] <blaster> The only bluetooth phones I have are airpods and I would not even attempt to make it work lol
[09:57] <ktwo> :D didn't know they were BT, i thought apple uses something proprietary
[09:57] <blaster> It was a whole fox hunt just to access my iPhone photos.
[09:58] <blaster> I wish a company that weren't evil could innovate.
[09:59] <ktwo> thing is once you get so popular everyone in the company wants to squeeze as much money for their personal wealth as possible, it always ends like that
[10:00] <blaster> Sure, but to not include chargers with their phones now is just purely a dick move.
[10:01] <ktwo> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Hardware_video_acceleration#Intel -> do you think that can be applied to ubuntu as well or does it already come with that driver?
[10:02] <blaster> Interesting that they refer to a Haswell specific codec driver as that's the chipset on my CPU.
[10:02] <ktwo> I'd "accept" not having a charger if they were not pricing it that high. i was really looking forward to buy the new SE3 maybe for 399, but as i heard it sells for 500, it's really insane
[10:03] <blaster> I agree. They tried to say it was due to environmental reasons - well why not just give an option whether you need the charger or not?
[10:04] <ogra> blaster, you are not by chance playing audio through one of the monitors via the HDMI/DVI cable ? (that could have some impact too)
[10:05] <blaster> Hi ogra, actually I was attempting to play audio through one of the monitors as I had with previous versions of Ubuntu, but it hasn't worked with 22.04 either.
[10:05] <ktwo> Basically you need to spend additional 50 bucks for the genuine charger on the apple website. considering there charging 25 for the cleaning cloth...its simply a money grab :p
[10:05] <ogra> well, blocked audio playback can indeed also stall a stream ...
[10:06] <blaster> Wow, ogra just hit a bullseye.
[10:06] <ogra> just guessing 😉
[10:06] <blaster> As soon as I switched audio output from HDMI to digital output, the video started playing.
[10:06] <ogra> 😄
[10:07] <blaster> Next I'll be bugging you guys about how to get the sound to *actually* work.  But I'm happy enough for tonight now.
[10:09] <duxsco> hi, i know that _old_ ubuntu lts versions only support main and restricted packages. but, can i expect nevertheless for openjdk-17-jdk to be updated on ubuntu 18.04 to fix https://ubuntu.com/security/CVE-2022-21449 ?
[10:09] <blaster> ktwo, 50 dollars for a charger just seems crazy.
[10:09] <blaster> It's a small transformer and a cable.  I wonder what the markup is on that?
[10:10] <blaster> Also thank you ogra.  I'm glad you just appeared like magic.
[10:10] <ktwo> You might want to check out the amazon corretto open-jdk too i switched to those for my java-needs some time ago and they never gave me a problem, also amazon (aws) updates them as soon as a new build is out
[10:11] <ogra> blaster, well, thank ktwo ... i only read your guys backlog 😉
[10:11] <ktwo> well the person who actually solves the issue gets the credit :P
[10:11] <ogra> nah ... only a bit of it is warranted
[10:11] <ktwo> i have only found out a new issue ( the hw-accelleration not working ;D)
[10:11] <blaster> ktwo  helped me realized it wasn't a network issue.  So thanks ktwo as well :)
[10:11] <ogra> heh
[10:16] <respawn> good Morning day
[10:17] <peirik> good morning day to you too :)
[10:18] <respawn> question about lubuntu
[10:18] <respawn> i ment xubuntu
[10:18] <respawn> i made usb bootable of xubunut 22.04
[10:19] <respawn> it boots normal on this laptop
[10:19] <bittin_> morning
[10:19] <erry__> hi on the ubuntu latest/22.04 image we get E: Problem executing scripts APT::Update::Post-Invoke 'rm -f /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/*.deb /var/cache/apt/*.bin || true' upon running apt update
[10:19] <respawn> but on my other pc it boots to black screen with white line
[10:19] <erry__> docker image*
[10:20] <respawn> blinking line in top left
[10:21] <ogra> respawn, you should be able to switch to a different console (ctrl+alt+f2,f3,f4,etc) to see the actual boot output (andf any errors)
[10:21] <respawn> it booted once to desktop with window that is to choose live or install but it didnt load it properly
[10:22] <respawn> and it boots very slow
[10:25] <respawn> pc is from cca 2008
[10:26] <duxsco> k, 17.0.2 is pretty new. so, i can hope for the cve to get fixed https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/o/openjdk-17/openjdk-17_17.0.2+8-1~18.04/changelog
[10:28] <imi> hi, I just installed ubuntu 22.04 on an external hard drive, and it falied to make its own efi partition. instead it used the internal one, practically making my usb installation unportable
[10:28] <duxsco> and, it says "supported" for bionic https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-17
[10:29] <EriC^^> imi: you need to chroot into it and install grub with removable media flag
[10:30] <EriC^^> imi: also you need to create an efi partition i guess, can you share 'sudo parted -ls' output?
[10:31] <imi> EriC^^: https://termbin.com/04rn
[10:32] <imi> the previous lts somehow made a separate efi partition, this one didn't :(
[10:32] <imi> I'm able to boot it
[10:32] <EriC^^> imi: which device is the ext hdd?
[10:32] <imi> sda (including vg_af1)
[10:33] <EriC^^> looks like it has an efi partition
[10:33] <EriC^^> imi: can you run 'sudo mount /dev/mapper/vg_af1-root /mnt' ?
[10:33] <imi> accoring to mount is uses the internal one: /dev/nvme0n1p1
[10:34] <EriC^^> aha
[10:34] <EriC^^> you're booted into which ubuntu right now? the ext hdd one?
[10:34] <imi> EriC^^: I could but I don't know why shoul I do so, it it already mounted as /
[10:34] <EriC^^> ok gotcha
[10:34] <imi> yes. it boots it works but I want to make it portable
[10:34] <EriC^^> imi: type '(sudo blkid; cat /etc/fstab) | nc termbin.com 9999'
[10:34] <imi> and I want the windows efi to be unaware of this linux
[10:35] <imi> https://termbin.com/lar5
[10:36] <EriC^^> imi: type 'sudo nano /etc/fstab' replace UUID=88E0-AD11 with UUID=5ACC-E41D
[10:37] <imi> ok, done, saved, do I need to updare-grub or something?
[10:38] <EriC^^> imi: type 'sudo umount /boot/efi'
[10:39] <imi> ok then I guess mounting /dev/sda1 would be the next step
[10:39] <EriC^^> imi: yup, type 'sudo mount /boot/efi'
[10:39] <imi> ok, /dev/sda1 on /boot/efi
[10:40] <EriC^^> imi: type 'sudo grub-install --removable'
[10:41] <imi> will that removable flag be retained for the times when ubuntu upgrades the kernel?
[10:43] <EriC^^> imi: well on kernel upgrades grub-install never runs, only update-grub, but if grub itself gets an upgrade i doubt it would use the flag, it would still boot but it might also create typical /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/* files i guess
[10:43] <EriC^^> if you wanted the latest .efi stuff you'd have to manually run it so it puts them in /boot/efi/boot/bootx64.efi
[10:44] <imi> ok. now can I just reboot?
[10:45] <EriC^^> imi: if you want, i'd also add it to /boot/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi
[10:45] <EriC^^> sorry
[10:46] <EriC^^> imi: type 'sudo mkdir -p /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot'
[10:46] <EriC^^> then 'sudo cp /boot/efi/efi/boot/bootx64.efi /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi'
[10:46] <EriC^^> that's the typical microsoft file, some bios will look for that too
[10:55] <imi> why is it efi/efi?
[10:58] <EriC^> imi: you can reboot when you want
[10:59] <imi> ok thanks trying to reboot now
[10:59] <EriC^> imi: also you could change the order of the uefi entries using efibootmgr to pick which install the bios boots by default
[11:00] <EriC^> no problem
[11:00] <imi> I've seen something in the bios setup, I'll look into that
[11:00] <EriC^> ok cool
[11:00] <imi> I want the windows to be the default when the usb isn't plugged in but the linux to be the default when it's plugged in
[11:01] <EriC^> you could do that
[11:02] <EriC^> you might need to manually add an entry for the usb install though
[11:02] <EriC^> (using efibootmgr usually)
[11:03] <EriC^> sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\boot\\bootx64.efi -L "ubuntu usb" -p 1 -d /dev/sda
[11:04] <EriC^> efibootmgr -v shows the order, and efibootmgr -o 0001,0004,.... sets the order
[11:05] <imi> https://termbin.com/cj9r
[11:06] <imi> I don't know why I have to entries for ubuntu
[11:06] <imi> the order seems to be correct
[11:07] <imi> I mean
[11:07] <imi> I don't know why I have *two* entries for ubuntu
[11:08] <erry__> any ideas?
[11:08] <erry__> I saw a github issue about it but not sure if its in the official repo
[11:08] <erry__> https://github.com/tianon/docker-brew-ubuntu-core/issues/236
[11:08] <imi> ok trying to reboot
[11:17] <McQuestionable> Hiya, I just had some kind of crash where my screen went black, I saw a terminal cursor ('_') appear for a bit, then got booted back to the login screen. What kind of crash would that have been?
[11:17] <imi> hi, it works! Thanks :) some fancy touchscreen related features are missing but it works as intended!
[11:17] <McQuestionable> I was using default ubuntu gnome desktop
[11:18] <McQuestionable> (I'm trying to work out what key words to search for if I need to troubleshoot)
[11:21] <cbreak> McQuestionable: you could look at the system log with journalctl -b 0
[11:21] <cbreak> maybe it shows something interesting
[11:31] <lucas_> hello all, is ubuntu 22.04 using dash to dock?
[11:32] <McQuestionable> cbreak, thanks. fwiw appears to be an nvidia crash but it's hard to tell.
[11:32] <Maik> lucas_: it's called Ubuntu Dock which is a fork of Dash to Dock afaik
[11:33] <lucas_> k...
[11:33] <lucas_> thanks
[11:33] <Maik> yw
[11:49] <dtlnx> anyone else experience blurry background on the dash icons for some apps?
[11:50] <dtlnx> https://imgur.com/A7PhQ2u
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:00] <bittin_> hey
[12:18] <Maik> dtlnx: please click Affects me too here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock/+bug/1970051
[12:19] <dtlnx> Maik awesome I have noted it affects me too.
[12:20] <Maik> dtlnx: thanks :)
[12:51] <jedorf> hello, I have a little problem with the headset and sound and I don't understand what's happening... I use Ubuntu 20.04 and I have a USB Logitech H390 headset with mic.
[12:52] <jedorf> the sound is often okay, at beggining and after, a crackling/loud noice appear to destroy my ear...
[12:52] <jedorf> no other choice than restart the program (I tested with VLC and Firefox=
[12:52] <jedorf> *)
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> Maik dtlnx just wondering, does that occur with the dock at bottom aswell?
[12:54] <Maik> lotuspsychje: not sure, didn't test that
[12:55] <jedorf> and there is no log about this "bug"
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> Maik: in my original bug like that, i also could influence it with mouse over hovering
[12:56] <Maik> lotuspsychje: yeah, it disappears with mouse hovering
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx for testing Maik
[12:57] <Maik> so far i didn't notice it anymore after installing it on my new laptop, i'll keep an eye on it though
[13:07] <timebro> HI
[13:08] <silve2611> hi
[13:09] <silve2611> Is there any way to retrieve the name of the current active application as well as the title of the window?
[13:09] <silve2611> with xorg this was ne problem but i can't seem to find a solution for ubuntu using wayland
[13:10] <utente> hello to everyone
[13:11] <utente> I have installed the last version of ubuntu 22.04 LTS
[13:11] <utente> How to change size of apps icons in the activity menu
[13:13] <domino14> I was wondering how LTSs handle kernel updates. Do they happen with the same frequency? I'd love to get on the latest kernel (even 5.16 handles Alder Lake better)
[13:14] <domino14> but 22.04 is on 5.15
[13:14] <utente> How to change size of apps icons in the activity menu?
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> !patience | utente
[13:14] <WeeBey> umm. Suddenly, my nvidia-settings window is blank. Um.. Anyone get this recently?
[13:16] <ogra> domino14, there is a linux-oem kernel package that is on 5.17 IIRC
[13:21] <domino14> what does linux-oem package mean? is it compatible with 22.04?
[13:21] <ogra> apt-cache search linux oem ...
[13:21] <ogra> ... shoudl list it
[13:21] <ogra> yes, if it is in the ubuntu archive it usually is compatible with the release ...
[13:40] <nowifi> Hi, im trying to get wifi working on ubuntu server 18. I think i managed to get driver installed ok since i can scan for hotspots. I also got netplan configs setup and applied. Bit for some reason the wifi wont connect..
[14:07] <domino14> no, idk what that means. if i install linux-oem what does that mean
[14:08] <domino14> why isn't regular linux on linux-oem
[14:08] <domino14> etc
[14:08] <ogra> it means you install an additional kernel
[14:08] <ogra> that is smething you need to ask the ubuntu kernel team 🙂
[14:08] <ogra> (they maintain both)
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> some brands will auto choose an oem kernel
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> but not sure how that process really works
[14:21] <EriC^^> domino14: if you type 'apt-cache show linux-oem' it shows the info on the package, it looks like it's just a dummy package, just pulls in linux-generic and  it says will be deprecated in 20.10
[14:22] <EriC^^> domino14: actually nevermind, seems to install a linux-oem....deb as well, no idea
[14:24] <ogra> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/OEMKernel
[14:25] <ogra> (a bit outdated, but the reasons on there are likely still relevant)
[14:28] <rxosey> kinetic kudu? cmon, why not kraken?
[14:29] <Maik> rxosey: you could use #ubuntu-discuss for that matter so the support channel is kept clean from discussions
[14:29] <Maik> :)
[14:31] <rxosey> release the kudu! See, that doesn't sound. "Relase the Kraken!" does!]
[14:32] <Maik> !ot | rxosey
[14:41] <domino14> when might 5.16 be in the regular linux cadence?
[14:41] <domino14> regular ubuntu cadence i should say
[14:43] <ogra> domino14, that might get skipped actually ... when 22.10 comes out its kernel will be available as linux-hwe kernel in 22.04
[14:43] <ogra> (i guess 22.10 will rather have something like 5.18 or newer)
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> what is this magical feature you are hunting anyway domino14 ?
[14:48] <ogra> "better alder lake support"
[14:48] <ogra> (which is exctly what the oem kernel is for)
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> oh
[14:50] <ioria> i guess that alder patch has been backported on 5.15
[14:51] <ioria> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-515-Backport-ADL-Perf-Fix
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> nice find ioria
[15:50] <Jasonwiz> hello guys
[15:51] <respawn> hi
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> welcome Jasonwiz
[15:53] <Jasonwiz> what you guys want to talk about
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> !chat | Jasonwiz
[15:55] <Jasonwiz> how about hacking
[15:55] <leftyfb> !ot | Jasonwiz
[15:56] <respawn> that is against rules of channel
[15:57] <respawn> Jasonwiz:  IRC Guidelines: https://ubottu.com/y/gl
[15:59] <Jasonwiz> ok
[16:06] <unixbsd> hello
[16:07] <unixbsd> do you know a software under linux - free that can plot some mathematical simple functions for maths/plots? y as func. of x
[16:08] <respawn> did you check in software manager
[16:09] <iomari891> Greetings, why don't desktops use netplan by default?
[16:10] <unixbsd> well. scidavis
[16:11] <unixbsd> kmplot
[16:11] <respawn> unixbsd: something like mathematical function graph plotter
[16:11] <unixbsd> yeah simple - for 10 years old kids up to 20 years old kids
[16:14] <respawn> unixbsd: https://alternativeto.net/software/scidavis/
[16:14] <leftyfb> iomari891: they use Network Manager because it's graphical.
[16:15] <Glumfish> unixbsd: if youre planning on including them on publications such as latex documents or exporting them as SVGm PDF, etc I would recommend gnuplot
[16:17] <unixbsd> Glumfish: kids never learned latex
[16:17] <unixbsd> Glumfish: with apple ipad in the hands - kids arent going to eveeeer learn latex :) just easy stuffs for plot
[16:18] <Glumfish> Glumfish: I learned Latex about 1.5 years ago and I was 16
[16:18] <Glumfish> Very good decision
[16:18] <Glumfish> (roughly two years)
[16:18] <unixbsd> Glumfish: this is not normal at all
[16:18] <unixbsd> Glumfish: you arent human :)
[16:18] <Glumfish> Well some of my classmates also did
[16:19] <iomari891> leftyfb: don't get me wrong. I'm not a netplan fan. Just having a debate with a colleague who is.
[16:19] <unixbsd> MIT school ? UK ?
[16:19] <Glumfish> Nope Greece
[16:20] <Glumfish> LaTeX is really not that hard you can easily learn it if you have the patience and willingness to learn
[16:20] <unixbsd> neever heard of greece school before. cool , seems fine.
[16:20] <Glumfish> In the same way that learning to use Linux is not all that hard
[16:20] <Glumfish> unixbsd: A school in Greece
[16:20] <leftyfb> iomari891: there's nothing wrong with netplan. It works perfectly fine. netplan is used for Ubuntu desktop, it just sets the rendered to Network Manager to be used by the GUI
[16:20] <unixbsd> Glumfish: no school use linux todyy in Europe. most schools have windows
[16:20] <Glumfish> Greece is a country in the Mediterranean, in between Italy and Turkey
[16:21] <leftyfb> Glumfish: unixbsd: maybe take this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[16:21] <Glumfish> Yes, sadly
[16:21] <respawn> Neighbour
[16:21] <Glumfish> leftyfb: Yeah sorry
[16:21] <leftyfb> that is the better place for software opinions as well
[16:21] <iomari891> leftyfb: I know. I use it extensively for servers. But not for desktop.
[16:21] <unixbsd> industry dont want any engineer that havent learn MS Windows. it is important to use windows today.
[16:22] <leftyfb> iomari891: it doesn't get used for desktops. Not for the configurations anyway
[16:22] <leftyfb> unixbsd: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:22] <leftyfb> unixbsd: also false
[16:22] <unixbsd> mathematica maybe?
[16:23] <leftyfb> unixbsd: /join #ubuntu-offtopic for software opinions. This is a support channel
[16:24] <unixbsd> i ask for a software under ubuntu.
[16:24] <unixbsd> it is ubuntu related. math andplot
[16:24] <leftyfb> unixbsd: right, go to #ubuntu-offtopic for software opinions. Asking which one people like/prefer is not a support question
[16:24] <leftyfb> unixbsd: if you have issues installing one of them, then we can try to help you
[16:25] <Glumfish> unixbsd: I think this channel is more intended for people asking for help or having specific issues
[16:25] <ogra> right
[16:25] <leftyfb> otherwise it turns into arguments on who's opinion is better
[16:26] <unixbsd> ok thank you. i will ask at #debian to see infos about softs for maths
[16:26] <leftyfb> unixbsd: they're not going to help you with software for ubuntu
[16:26] <respawn> good luck
[16:27] <Glumfish> unixbsd: these are support channels
[16:28] <Glumfish> Since you don't have any technical issues or breakages its not the most appropriate place
[16:28] <enigma9o7[m]> matlab is available for linux
[16:28] <ogra> sigh
[16:29] <ogra> can we stop fueling that topic here please
[16:31] <enigma9o7[m]> ah ok i didnt read the origianl question that he wanted free
[16:31] <WeeBey> Weird question... maybe. Is it possible to install the kernel from the new ubuntu lts release on my current install
[16:31] <WeeBey> ?
[16:32] <leftyfb> WeeBey: what is your currently release and why do you want a kernel from a newer release?
[16:34] <WeeBey> leftyfb, thanks for the reply. I have 21.10. I upgraded to kernel 5.16.19 to try to fix touchpad issues (didn't resolve). It was running OK but I found the battery was draining super fast. Now today, nvidia-settings window is empty.
[16:35] <leftyfb> WeeBey: you should really be focusing on upgrading. 21.10 will be EOL in a few months
[16:37] <WeeBey> leftyfb, fair. I'll do this instead.
[16:37] <WeeBey> Thank you. :-)
[16:51] <WeeBey> leftyfb, I see "no new release" found. I just need to wait a bit longer, I suppose?
[16:52] <leftyfb> !ltsupgrade | WeeBey
[16:54] <WeeBey> awesome possum. Thanks1
[16:57] <Maik> WeeBey: about upgrading from 21.10 to 22.04 is not possible yet due some bugs as mentioned in the release notes
[16:58] <Maik> WeeBey: quote: "Upgrading from Ubuntu 21.10. Upgrades to 22.04 LTS are currently not enabled (due a bug with snapd and update-notifier) but will be in the next couple of days."
[16:58] <Maik> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/jammy-jellyfish-release-notes/24668
[16:58] <WeeBey> Maik! Ok. I'll try to troubleshoot some current issues and wait for it to be available.
[16:58] <leftyfb> that should be getting fixed any day now
[17:00] <leftyfb> pretty sure this should work https://itsubuntu.com/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-22-04-lts/
[17:01] <respawn> interestin in xubuntu and ubuntu mate same issue boots slow shows desktop and just go to black screen with errors
[17:03] <respawn> sda4 ext4 fs eror
[17:03] <respawn> and sqasfs error
[17:04] <leftyfb> respawn: squashfs means you aren't running and installed version of ubuntu. You're running it live
[17:04] <leftyfb> also bad media
[17:04] <respawn> yeah
[17:05] <respawn> made live usb multiple times same thing
[17:05] <respawn> changed usb ports
[17:06] <Glumfish> respawn: your flahs drive may be broken
[17:06] <Glumfish> flash**
[17:06] <respawn> installed some other os just fine from the same usb
[17:06] <Glumfish> have you tried any other media?
[17:06] <respawn> i will test it with mint to check it
[17:06] <leftyfb> respawn: doesn't change the facts
[17:34] <Sven_vB> hi :)
[17:37] <Sven_vB> I want a sane linux shell with GNU screen on my NAS so that I can SSH into it and continue where I left off. The built-in linux on that NAS is awful, even with entware. I managed to install docker though, so my idea was to run Ubuntu LTS in docker, with SSH and GNU screen inside. Is that a good approach?
[17:39] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: not really an ubuntu support question.
[17:40] <Sven_vB> yeah, I think I'd better ask in off-topic.
[17:40] <Sven_vB> or is that for -discuss?
[17:41] <Sven_vB> well, the docker aspects probably are off-topic.
[17:42] <respawn> works with mint live usb
[17:43] <leftyfb> respawn: re-download the ubuntu image
[17:44] <LebedevRI> hi! i'm not sure if this is the best channel for this. does ubuntu's git-buildpackage / pbuilder differ from debian's one in any functional way? while it works for me in debian, i'm hitting something that i do not understand on ubuntu-driven CI, i can't seem to understand how to convince pbuilder to actually install dependencies into the container
[17:44] <Sven_vB> respawn, it might help to use the USB media just for GRUB (e.g. SuperGrub Disk) and load the actual ISO file from disk. I use that approach by default because that way I don't need to copy many megabytes of data to my slow USB thumb drive.
[17:58] <LebedevRI> ah, --use-pdebuild-internal helped. sigh. thanks!
[18:01] <Maik> Sven_vB: it's neither for -discuss or -offtopic but for #docker i guess
[18:02] <Maik> offtopic isn't meant for support of any kind as per channel topic :)
[18:07] <SteelRose> hi all
[18:08] <SteelRose> I recently upgraded 20.04 LTS to 22.04 LTS and the process was quite smooth... however, there are a few programs that didn't like the change, like InSync... Isn't 22.04 supposed to be downwards compatible with 20.04? Thanks
[18:09] <leftyfb> SteelRose: InSync?
[18:09] <SteelRose> leftyfb: https://www.insynchq.com/i/onedrive  <-- it works as a client for OneDrive
[18:10] <leftyfb> SteelRose: ok, so not an official ubuntu package.You'll need to seek support from the vendor
[18:10] <SteelRose> OK
[18:11] <SteelRose> do you know of any other OneDrive client I might use? InSync was suggested to me but I don't mind using something else
[18:11] <leftyfb> SteelRose: I don't since I don't use OneDrive
[18:11] <SteelRose> fair enough
[18:12] <SteelRose> what about the downwards compatibility of 22.04 ?
[18:12] <peirik> Anyone have any experience with Timeshift for system backups? Any other solution you'd recommend?
[18:12] <leftyfb> SteelRose: that's not how linux works
[18:12] <SteelRose> leftyfb: this is how UNIX and LInux have worked since ... always :-) but anyway... thanks
[18:13] <leftyfb> SteelRose: false
[18:13] <SteelRose> OK
[18:31] <Glumfish> SteelRose: You can use rclone mount with OneDrive
[18:34] <leftyfb> they left
[18:37] <Glumfish> leftyfb: Yeah although it maybe useful to someone else that hasn't heard about rclone
[18:38] <Glumfish> I use it with Google Drive and I also plan to use it with OneDrive to access my files but also backup
[18:39] <Glumfish> Sadly the performance (at least with stock settings and --vfs-cache-mode=full) is no where as good as the normal apps
[18:39] <Glumfish> Although I haven't done any tuning
[18:39] <jhutchins> Glumfish: Normal being what?
[18:39] <Glumfish> The vendor supplied apps I mean (Google Drive for Desktop and OneDrive)
[18:40] <Glumfish> for Google Drive the performance is significantly better on Windows and MacOS
[18:42] <jhutchins> Glumfish: Better than ...
[18:42] <Glumfish> rclone mount
[19:07] <dadofapollo> just had trouble booting ... I got a black screen with one line that read "dev/nvme0np5 clean: xxx/yyy files, xxx/yyy blocks". I figured out it was because gdm3 was not started. I hit it with `systemctl start gdm.service` and it booted up as normal. Haven't tried rebooting but what was the problem and is there a permanent fix?
[19:13] <jStefan> dadofapollo, wouldn't that be part of the disk check that happens ever 30 mounts or so?
[19:15] <dadofapollo> I'm not sure. I didn't know that was a thing
[19:17] <dayum> allright, live image won't boot, when it does and i manage to install, the system doesn't boot. Last ditch effort is installing 20.04 and upgrading, but dist-upgrade doesn't work. any way to force it?
[19:18] <Bashing-om> !ltsupgrade | dayum
[19:19] <dayum> ubottu thanks!
[19:19] <dayum> doing as we speak
[19:19] <dayum> hope it resolves the booting issues
[19:19] <dayum> do i have to autoremove after install?
[19:19] <Bashing-om> dayum: Nvidia graphics ?
[19:24] <jStefan> dayum, the upgrade process will attempt to clean any old packages. it will prompt you what you want to do.
[19:24] <dayum> thanks. Bashing-om no, amd radeon vega
[19:28] <Bashing-om> dayum: AMD/Radeon too presently has some Black screen issues on some card versions. phoronix.com has some good coverage.
[19:48] <SpaceBass> I've got a server where snapd keeps failing but I can't purge it. I have to run dpkg --configure -a but it keeps failing on snapd
[19:52] <sarnold> pastebin the errors?
[19:54] <david_> hi
[19:54] <SpaceBass> Can't pasterbin the text, but can do an image https://pasteboard.co/YEwN65QVl5af.png
[19:57] <sarnold> yikes that looks like an unhappy place to be
[20:02] <ogra> SpaceBass, what is sdb1 ?
[20:03] <SpaceBass> ext4
[20:03] <ogra> heh
[20:03] <ogra> what kind of device, how is it related to your system ?
[20:04] <SpaceBass> This is a VM so /sdb1 is a qcow2 disk directly attached
[20:05] <ogra> but not your rootfs i guess ?
[20:05] <SpaceBass> Yeah, not root. It mounts to /mnt/storage
[20:06] <SpaceBass> And fdisk -l thinks it is a FreeBSD file system o_O
[20:06] <ogra> the error "Transaction is destructive" is typically a systemd error ...
[20:07] <ogra> snapd seems to just be a victim here
[20:08] <SpaceBass> agree
[20:08] <SpaceBass> fsck thinks sdb1 is a dos filesystem, fdisk thinks it is FreeBSD
[20:08] <ogra> is this setup using an ubuntu standard kernel ?
[20:10] <SpaceBass> Yes
[20:14] <vix> hi
[20:14] <vix> uhm how does this work
[20:14] <vix> HELA0OFA
[20:15] <gr0m> мир всем
[20:15] <SpaceBass> Guessing this drive is toast
[20:15] <SpaceBass> Might blow this box away .....its got a lot of cruft from years of upgrades
[20:15] <ogra> yeah, something is going on there on a very low level ...
[20:15] <thingfish> gr0m: mir tebe :)
[20:16] <ogra> SpaceBass, any exotic filesystem in use ?
[20:16] <SpaceBass> No... just an nfs mount
[20:16] <ogra> nfs ?
[20:16] <ogra> oh
[20:17] <ogra> so your rootfs is nfs ? or is the VM running on tp of an nfs ?
[20:17] <sarnold> vix: if that last line is a password, you may wish to replace it :)
[20:18] <SpaceBass> Neither, the root is also a ext4 drive from a qcow2 file... but the system also has an nfs mount at /mnt/media
[20:18] <ogra> that should not do any ram
[20:18] <ogra> *harm
[20:18] <ogra> (tsk)
[20:19] <SpaceBass> Just seems that if a disk can't be repaired with superblocks it is probably toast
[20:19] <ogra> yeah
[20:20] <gr0m> thingfish ot dushi bro
[20:20] <thingfish> :)
[20:21] <thingfish> I think they prefer we stick to English.
[20:21] <thingfish> plus my Russian sucks.
[20:21] <mint> HEY
[20:21] <mint> HEYH
[20:21] <mint> HWEY!
[20:21] <cbreak> interesting: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1970066
[20:21] <cbreak> it got worse
[20:21] <mint> QUESTION!
[20:22] <sarnold> mint: you may find this helpful https://wiki.debian.org/GettingHelpOnIrc
[20:23] <cbreak> using snap at all seems to break 22.04 (in some cases)
[20:25] <cbreak> might be related to the ubuntu zfs install script creating lots of sub-datasets :/
[20:25] <gr0m> thingfish I sit with a translator
[20:25] <gr0m> ))
[20:26] <cbreak> thingfish: russian in general seems to suck. But I think there's an #ubuntu-ru channel dedicated for that language
[20:26] <thingfish> cool
[20:45] <ogra> cbreak, well, that seems to be relared to encryption or some such ... snapd team is on it already
[20:46] <ogra> *related
[20:46] <cbreak> hmm... so it doesn't happen with unencrypted zfs?
[20:46]  * cbreak is running self-made encrypted zfs on ubuntu
[20:46] <cbreak> I shall stick with 21.10 :D
[20:47] <ogra> seemingly not (feel free to test 🙂 )
[20:47] <cbreak> well... I could probably just roll back... but I kind of don't want to risk it :P
[20:48] <ogra> also, it might be related to how 22.04 sets up the zfs or its encryption, there is no clear winner yet in the research ...
[20:49] <cbreak> hmm... did that change from the way 21.04 started doing it?
[20:49] <ogra> no idea
[20:49] <cbreak> when I first installed the system, I was very surprised by the weird method encryption was set up by that installer
[20:49] <ogra> either way, the snapd team is looking at it with high prio
[20:49] <cbreak> so I did it myself differently...
[20:49] <cbreak> nice
[20:50] <ogra> it is admittedly quite a disaster bug 🙂
[20:50] <cbreak> yeah. Wonder how it didn't appear in testing... maybe no one uses snap, or encrypted zfs :/
[20:50] <ogra> i guess the latter
[20:50] <yanivr> hi
[20:51] <ogra> i think every image test has snap tests included nowadays
[20:51] <cbreak> ubuntu also has its own snapshot system, zsys
[20:52] <cbreak> maybe that's related
[20:52] <cbreak> although that one is used with unencrypted too...
[20:55] <ravage> i did not test it without encryption
[20:55] <ravage> but im sure the team will try both
[20:55] <ravage> its easy to reproduce
[21:03] <AmR> What is kfind alternative in gnome ?
[21:05] <enigma9o7[m]> To do what Amr?
[21:06] <ravage> AmR "files" finds all indexed results. so just search in there
[21:07] <ravage> https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/files-search.html.en
[21:09] <AmR> ravage: It's support multi  search ? sprit by ; like kfind ?
[21:10] <ravage> i think its meant to find files by metadata
[21:11] <AmR> ravage: nop, Find like that *.html;*.htm
[21:12] <ravage> i would just find for that :)
[21:12] <ravage> i dont know any 1:1 version of kfind for gnome
[21:15] <sarnold> hah, the first thing I thought of was beagle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beagle_(software) "Final release .. 13 years ago"
[21:18] <forgotmynick> Hello. I have a /64 ipv6 assigned to my dedicated server. The server is running multiple lxc containers. I want to assign 10k IPv6 addresses to each lxc container. On the one container I’ve been working on, I’ve added 10k IP addresses using ip -6 add… and it’s working fine, however, now whenever I try to ssh into the server there’s like a 8 second delay for when the shell actually shows. When using curl and specifying
[21:18] <forgotmynick> an interface it can be slow to connect too. Is there anything I can do to resolve this? I’m very new to ipv6 and I was hoping there’d be a simple way to assign a portion of that /64 to each lxc without specifying each individual ip. Could anyone please advise on how to resolve the slow ssh or an alternative way to do this without adding each individual ip manually?
[21:19] <leftyfb> why in the world....
[21:20] <bahamat> forgotmynick: possibly related to DNS timeouts.
[21:21] <leftyfb> forgotmynick: "UseDNS no"
[21:21] <sarnold> forgotmynick: perhaps something in this blog post would be useful to you https://blog.cloudflare.com/how-we-built-spectrum/
[21:21] <sarnold> oh that dns suggestion is a good one
[21:24] <jimklo> Question... It's 2022... what's the generally accepted convention for dealing with roaming home directories in Linux?  NFS, SMB, something else?  I'm curious if there's a more modern way of doing this in 2022 or are we still stuck in the land of NFS?
[21:24] <ravage> forgotmynick, if you ask nicely your provider may just give you a /48 and you can subnet all you want properly :)
[21:25] <ravage> not that a /64 does not provide enough IPs of course. but the fun begins with a /48
[21:30] <jhutchins> AmR: KDE does a _lot_ more indexing than other "Desktops".
[21:33] <WeeBey> Hi frens. my nvidia drivers stopped working for some reason... I tried to install them from the nvidia site and it said I was missing the kernel source. I installed 5.16.19 on 21.10 and I don't know how to install the source to make the drivers work. Any hints?
[21:35] <Menz-O-Phone> WeeBey: do you mean 516.19?
[21:37] <enigma9o7[m]> weebey, if you use an ubuntu kernel then you can use the ubuntu pacakge and not do any of that manually, which is not at all reccommended.
[21:37] <enigma9o7[m]> if you're using 5.16.19 it must be mainline or some other distro or self built, etc.
[21:37] <Menz-O-Phone> (Yeah that's where I was getting at)
[21:37] <forgotmynick> leftyfb: "i'm trying to build something" -- inventing anna
[21:37] <forgotmynick> sarnold: thanks this anyip is what i need
[21:39] <Menz-O-Phone> Ah, the Linux kernel itself... WeeBey for GTK based flavors go to Software and Updates and look in the Additional Drivers Tab
[21:40] <WeeBey> enigma9o7[m], Oh; installing from the site is not recommended at all, you mean. ok.
[21:40] <enigma9o7[m]> Yeah I worded tha tweird huh.
[21:40] <enigma9o7[m]> Its reccommended to use ubuntu kernel and ubuntu pakcaged version of nivida driver.
[21:41] <Menz-O-Phone> I forgot where it is in Kubuntu but it's there somewhere in Discover I think
[21:41] <WeeBey> Menz-O-Phone, Hmm. I tried this but my nvidia-settings app was still blank. One day to the next nvidia-settings went blank.
[21:41] <WeeBey> enigma9o7[m], well, at least the kernel came from the ubuntu site. :D
[21:41] <Menz-O-Phone> Your machine was probably still using nouveau
[21:41] <enigma9o7[m]> It is n ot reccommended to run the script from nvidia directly on ubuntu.  And if you do get it installed that way, you probably won't be able to upgrade kernel without going thru it again.
[21:41] <enigma9o7[m]> Plus it wont have any ubuntu applied patches, etc, w hich ubuntu figures out.
[21:42] <WeeBey> enigma9o7[m], ok. Sold. I won't try that direction.
[21:42] <enigma9o7[m]> And you'll have to blacklist noveau and close your display manager to install it.
[21:43] <Bashing-om> WeeBey: OEM install is that means of a last resort - Nvidia says " Note that many Linux distributions provide their own packages of the NVIDIA Linux Graphics Driver in the distribution's native package management format. This may interact better with the rest of your distribution's framework, and you may want to use this rather than NVIDIA's official package".
[21:43] <WeeBey> but the strange thing is that it suddenly stopped working. Likely cos I updated all packages.
[21:43] <enigma9o7[m]> Better solution is rever to ubuntu kernel. If you're on focal and your hardware isnt supported by 5.4, you can use hwe or oem kernels to get newer versions.   I think they're at 5.13 and 5.14
[21:43] <WeeBey> Bashing-om, yes. I did note that. I'll try to install from the additional-drivers again. Hopefully it comes back to life.
[21:44] <WeeBey> enigma9o7[m], I would be happy to try that.
[21:44] <enigma9o7[m]> and with all those, the headers etc are all packaged and available too
[21:45] <Bashing-om> WeeBey: :D - Remeber that you Must UN-install the OEM driver.
[21:45] <WeeBey> Bashing-om, I never installed it
[21:45] <WeeBey> :D
[21:45] <WeeBey> whew.
[21:47] <WeeBey> Do I need to load the drivers manually? from terminal, i get:
[21:47] <enigma9o7[m]> weebey, are you on focal?  If so `sudo apt install linux-oem-20.04d` then reboot, and pull up grub menu
[21:47] <WeeBey> ERROR: NVIDIA driver is not loaded
[21:47] <enigma9o7[m]> from grub menu advanced options and select the 5.14 kernel
[21:47] <enigma9o7[m]> as your default will be that 5.16.19 mainline you installed
[21:48] <enigma9o7[m]> If you later want 5.14 to be permanent, either reconfigure grub to make it default, or remove that 5.16
[21:48] <WeeBey> 21.10; impish
[21:49] <enigma9o7[m]> impish kernel didnt support eveyrthing for you?
[21:49] <enigma9o7[m]> why arent you on default impish kernel?
[21:52]  * WeeBey hides under the blanket 
[21:52] <WeeBey> I've been having issues with the touchpad and I thought I should give that a shot. I basically cannot suspend this laptop.
[21:52] <WeeBey> enigma9o7[m], it didn't fix it. So I should revert. Not sure how. Grub is the only way?
[21:57] <WeeBey> Ok, i'm gonna try to boot to older kernel.
[22:04] <ClaudioBerta> Sera, per favore c'è qualcuno che parla italiano per chiedere una cosa riguardo nvidia Prime?
[22:07] <jhutchins> !it
[22:07] <WeeBey> Ok, I'm in generic now. yay.
[22:07] <ClaudioBerta> Ciao ho provato ma nessuno risponde, ci sono stato 15 minuti chat inesistente, nessuno parla
[22:08] <ClaudioBerta> Lo so che è inglese questa chat, mi son detto magari c'è piu gente è c'è qualcuno per chiedere una cosa
[22:08] <ClaudioBerta> Scusate
[22:09] <WeeBey> Do I simply use dpkg to remove the 5.16.19 packages that I had installed?
[22:10] <WeeBey> https://pastebin.com/VYgvHg0k
[22:15] <ogra> !it | ClaudioBerta
[22:15] <ogra> oh .. blind me .. jhutchins already pointed that out
[22:16] <ClaudioBerta> Si grazie ogra ho scritto anche li ma nessuno risponde
[22:17] <ClaudioBerta> Provo in inglese scusate:
[22:18] <ClaudioBerta> So I have a desktop pc with an integrated graphics card on an i5 10400 and an nvidia rtx 2070 super
[22:18] <ClaudioBerta> Obviously I have more than one display port behind, one on the integrated and the other on the 2070 super.
[22:18] <ClaudioBerta> my question is, can i activate nvidia prime to use by default the integrated intel to navigate etc and the rtx 2070 super for games, graphics etc?
[22:18] <ClaudioBerta> I wonder why I doubt that it only works from laptops the thing of nvidia prime having only one hdmi output or display port that is
[22:18] <ClaudioBerta> Google traslate sorry
[22:19] <ClaudioBerta> Only laptop nvidia prime or desktop?
[22:22] <WeeBey> ClaudioBerta, i know thatfor my laptop, I can only use hdmi out when i'm using the nvidia drivers.
[22:23] <ClaudioBerta> laptop ok
[22:25] <ClaudioBerta> Another thing, wayland is fixed now on nvidia or not? with a clean installation now?
[22:25] <ClaudioBerta> three days ago when i tried wayland was not working on nvidia but only X11
[22:27] <WeeBey> ClaudioBerta, I'm struggling with the nvidia drivers just now. But it seems that things are back to normal for me.
[22:27] <WeeBey> Last I had checked, wayland was still a bit iffy with nvidia. But I cannot confirm 100%.
[22:28] <ClaudioBerta> wayland is now usable in nvidia?
[22:31] <Bashing-om> ClaudioBerta: See: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1968929 .
[22:34] <ClaudioBerta> ok ubottu it does not work yet
[22:34] <ClaudioBerta> thank you
[22:36] <Bashing-om> ClaudioBerta: Try the given hack ?
[22:37] <ClaudioBerta> not so what is it
[22:43] <WeeBey> enigma9o7[m], everything back to normal for me. Thank you for your time.
[22:53] <blaster> Anyone find a way to install node14+ on 22.04?
[23:18] <ogra> blaster, snap install --channel=15/stable node --classic (or any other channel that "snap info node" spits out up to version 17)
[23:21] <blaster> Thanks ogra!