| BrianHechinger[m | I think I need to find a new audio device. This isn't working. :( | 14:26 |
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| BrianHechinger[m | USB-C based interfaces are just the same issues as USB 2.0/3.0 using C instead of the older connector? | 14:43 |
| BrianHechinger[m | I mean, just looking around here my options are USB, 500+ euro firewire/pcie or this thing which I'm a bit weary of: https://www.thomann.de/intl/esi_maya44_ex.htm | 15:02 |
| BrianHechinger[m | OvenWerks: Did you see my musings? | 17:53 |
| OvenWerks | somewhat. BrianHechinger[m I don't know what to suggest. Many of the "USB3" devices are USB2.0 audio via USB3 | 18:10 |
| BrianHechinger[m | Yeah, but what about 3.1/3.2/etc? Still probably just USB2 devices? I'm half tempted to take a chance on that maya44, but I don't see where the headphone jack is they claim it has and I'm also not 100% sure on if it's supported or not. | 18:12 |
| OvenWerks | There are some that are effectively PCIe over USB3 That might be better. But the reality is that audio interfaces are not cheap unless you are doing USB1.1 2/2 i/o 16 bit | 18:13 |
| OvenWerks | I was wondering what I was going to do in my "next" computer when I may not have PCI slots for my delta 66. But now I have a PCIe FW card and FW interface, that will last me for the forseeable future | 18:15 |
| OvenWerks | I was looking at the audioscience devices (PCIe) but they are pricey | 18:16 |
| OvenWerks | The other option coming down the road (also not cheap) are the enet protocols: aes67, dante and AVB. | 18:20 |
| OvenWerks | So far as I know, all these do use more cpu to work, at least with Linux but I think other OS have similar problems. | 18:22 |
| OvenWerks | These also require an specific NIC to work well (aes67 and dante will work with any NIC but still work better with an i210 NIC) | 18:43 |
| BrianHechinger[m | OvenWerks: I just wish this one I had worked better. Another issue I have is availability over here. Much harder to find anything let along cheap used stuff. | 19:36 |
| BrianHechinger[m | <OvenWerks> "There are some that are effectiv..." <- Have anything to point me at to learn more about this PCIe over USB3 thing? | 19:37 |
| OvenWerks | BrianHechinger[m: most of what I know about USB3 is rumours :) | 19:52 |
| BrianHechinger[m | It's hard to find any good actual information | 19:53 |
| BrianHechinger[m | how about a RME Hammerfall DSP Multiface? | 19:53 |
| BrianHechinger[m | (not the II, the original one) | 19:53 |
| BrianHechinger[m | it's a little more than I'd like to pay, but..... | 19:53 |
| BrianHechinger[m | Although it's on a website called holy dog water, so I'm a bit skeptical. ;- | 19:53 |
| BrianHechinger[m | s/;-/:-D/ | 19:54 |
| OvenWerks | The RME stuff is _not_ supported on Linux | 19:54 |
| BrianHechinger[m | Boo! | 19:55 |
| BrianHechinger[m | This maya44 is looking like the best option. | 19:55 |
| OvenWerks | Even the USB 2 stuff is not fully USB2.0 so far as I know. I think they work (get audio in and out) but settings don't | 19:55 |
| OvenWerks | Have you looked on the Ardour discourse? | 19:56 |
| OvenWerks | I think I saw someone asking about those on there | 19:56 |
| BrianHechinger[m | Actually, it doesn't look hopeful for support | 19:57 |
| BrianHechinger[m | at least not by ALSA | 19:57 |
| BrianHechinger[m | Geeze, it looks like the USB Maya44 isn't even well supported | 19:59 |
| BrianHechinger[m | yeah, nevermind | 19:59 |
| OvenWerks | The thing to look for is macos/iOS support | 19:59 |
| BrianHechinger[m | The ethernet thing is interesting | 20:04 |
| BrianHechinger[m | I never really knew that was a thing | 20:04 |
| BrianHechinger[m | Not cheap, but not horrifically expensive either | 20:04 |
| OvenWerks | Dante is pretty much the default standard but is closed. Dante will work with aes67 or AVB(I hear it works with AVB anyway) | 20:06 |
| BrianHechinger[m | Although you do get a bit less for the money. | 20:06 |
| BrianHechinger[m | It's a lot of money to get more than simple things. | 20:07 |
| BrianHechinger[m | This MOTU Audio Express looks nice, but 400 pounds. 😠| 20:07 |
| OvenWerks | A lot of the network protocols expect you to use a USB or PCIe to network devices. | 20:08 |
| BrianHechinger[m | Which I could do easily enough | 20:08 |
| BrianHechinger[m | I just don't get some of the things I want down in my price range | 20:09 |
| BrianHechinger[m | even that motu unit offers way more input/output than any of the ethernet devices in that price range. | 20:09 |
| OvenWerks | Welcome to proaudio... it's kind of like anything with the word marine in it, the word ProAudio adds $$ | 20:10 |
| OvenWerks | Once in a while those extra $$ actually get you something | 20:11 |
| BrianHechinger[m | I think basically what it comes down to is screw it I'm stealing the Komplete Audio 6 back from the kid's computer. As soon as I figure out what to replace it with because these stupid HDMI audio extractors don't work on the 1080 or 1070. | 20:22 |
| BrianHechinger[m | I really want to stick with a firewire interface but unless i can magically get this one to work it isn't looking likely | 20:35 |
| BrianHechinger[m | Or a PCIe one but those are even more unlikely. 🤣 | 20:37 |
| OvenWerks | The PCIe ones are mostly used by Broadcast. | 20:39 |
| BrianHechinger[m | My friend will be in the US for two weeks. Not sure if that's enough time to snag something though. | 20:42 |
| BrianHechinger[m | My biggest issue is availability over here. It's really annoying. | 20:43 |
| BrianHechinger[m | The other annoying thing is it doesn't matter that I'm looking for FireWire Google keeps showing me USB crap | 21:01 |
| OvenWerks | Almost all companies that used to make FW devices have replaced them with USB | 21:02 |
| BrianHechinger[m | That doesn't excuse Google showing me USB devices even i search FireWire. 😜 | 21:14 |
| BrianHechinger[m | s/even/when/, s/i/I/ | 21:18 |
| OvenWerks | Google = page 3 plus before any hits start to make sense | 21:19 |
| OvenWerks | selling rank sucks | 21:20 |
| BrianHechinger[m | Dude, that's totally the secret | 22:20 |
| BrianHechinger[m | Focusrite Saffire Pro good support? | 22:21 |
| BrianHechinger[m | 60€ for a 24, 120€ for a 26 | 22:21 |
| BrianHechinger[m | 40 for 150€ | 22:28 |
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