[07:48] <gombara> hi. does anyone knows if Ubuntu 22.04 desktop (not server) ISOs support auto installation through d-i pressed files. my experiments did not yield any results. in 20.04 and prior isolinux.cfg is there and I use that file to pass preseed file name to kernel command line. with 22.04 I try doing the same witg grub.cfg. no luck. any ideas?
[08:47] <gombara> how do I determine if the ubuntu installer is using debian installer or not in background?
[09:01] <rbasak> How should I deal with an LTO issue in Jammy for a package in universe? SRU to lto-disabled-list and then SRU rebuild? Or lto-disabled-list upload to devel release, and SRU patch to "export DEB_BUILD_MAINT_OPTIONS=optimize=-lto"? Or something else?
[09:01] <rbasak> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xl2tpd/+bug/1951832
[09:16] <rbasak> doko: do you have an opinion on this please? ^
[09:17] <ginggs> rbasak: i think SRU-ing lto-disabled list is sub-optimal, so SRU with a patch disabling LTO
[09:18] <ginggs> and i see the package has no delta, so lte-disabled-list upload to devel
[09:18] <rbasak> OK, thanks. I agree that makes the most sense so I'll proceed with that.
[09:19] <rbasak> Not sure where to hold the Kinetic upload before it opens, but I'll worry about that in a bit.
[09:39] <gombara> gombara anyone know how to pass "automatic" command line argument to ubiquity from grub.cfg file. I think failing doing so is the reason why Ubuntu 22.04 desktop installer does not start auto install
[09:43] <xnox> gombara:  you should be able to press ESC at grub prompt, edit kernel command line and insure that automatic and similar keys are added in the cmdline..... before "---"
[09:45] <gombara> xnox  linux	/casper/vmlinuz  auto=true preseed/file=/cdrom/preseed.cfg priority=critical quiet splash noprompt ---
[09:45] <gombara> xnox  ^^^ this is my command line
[09:46] <xnox> gombara:  that looks like the right order of things. not sure about "auto=true" bits, one second.
[09:46] <xnox> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbiquityAutomation
[09:46] <xnox> > either by adding the 'automatic-ubiquity' option as a boot parameter
[09:47] <xnox> gombara:  i thought you need "/casper/vmlinuz automatic-ubiquity pre.....
[09:47] <xnox> more concise summary on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopCDOptions
[09:48] <xnox> > automatic-ubiquity: Pass --automatic to ubiquity which enables automatic mode. Questions that have been marked seen will be skipped and pages of the interface that ask no questions (because they are all skipped) will not be shown. Implies only-ubiquity (see below).
[09:49] <gombara> xnox perfect. that solves my problem. thanks a lot.
[09:49] <gombara> how do I missed that part :/
[10:03] <gombara> xnox do you know how to make ubiquity stop waiting for user input and use whatever there is in preseed file. automatic-ubiquity make it start automatically but it stops and waits for user input
[10:30] <xnox> gombara:  it probably did not find the preseed, or preseed is incomplete.
[10:31] <xnox> gombara:  as it will stop and wait for intup, when it doesn't know an answer
[10:32] <xnox> somehwere in launchpad we had our automated ubiquity desktop test cases with full preseed
[10:32] <xnox> trying to find it again
[10:35] <xnox> gombara:  ta dah https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-test-case-dev/ubuntu-test-cases/desktop/view/head:/preseeds/default.cfg
[10:38] <gombara> xnox thanks. I am using the preseed file I have been using for ubuntu 20.04 and earlier. looking at the syslog I dont see any complaint about missing preseed file.
[10:39] <xnox> gombara:  maybe check things in /var/log/installer and other stuff in /var/log/ to see if preseed is found and loaded
[10:39] <gombara> ok
[10:39] <xnox> i also see in our automation we boot with "automatic-ubiquity noprompt"
[10:39] <xnox> i cant' remember what noprompt did; maybe did not prompt for reboot in the end.
[10:40] <gombara> xnox I have noprompt as well. does not help
[10:41] <gombara> xnox how does your command line look like (from grub.cfg file I mean)
[10:42] <xnox> it is quite different. as we repack initrd, and add preseed.cfg inside the initrd.
[10:43] <gombara> xnox we do also have repacking. well some context here. I am trying to fix so called unattended install of VirtualBox. there we have a virtual ISO utility where we repack the ISO in memmory and mount it on the virtual machine.
[10:44] <gombara> xnox. hmmmm. it looks like out preseed file is a bit incomplete as your preseed file indeed started non interactive install. lets see what that goes
[10:44] <xnox> ah-ha i see.
[10:46] <xnox> i kind of wish that we had some public or private CI that would test various autoinstall things, i think there is virtualbox, virt-install (from libvirt), vmware something, ibm something, etc.
[10:46] <xnox> and they do seem to regress every now and then a bit.
[10:46] <gombara> xnox until ubuntu 20.0 our unattended install works ok. but we modify isolinux.cfg file instead of grub.cfg. but Ubuntu 21.04+ do not ave isolinux any more
[10:46] <xnox> yes, because we switched both UEFI and BIOS boots to use the same grub.cfg
[10:47] <xnox> gombara:  ..... why don't virtualbox boot with UEFI by default? =) ideally with secureboot and tpm too.
[10:47] <xnox> cause it's meant to emulate a normal looking computer; not the one from 1999 =)
[10:48] <gombara> xnox I am not completely sure as not to default to EFI. but for the purpose of auto install that would not make my life easier.
[11:02] <gombara> xnox are there any plans to ditch debian installer all together for desktop installers. I think server installers have done that already
[11:44] <xnox> gombara:  there are but it is work in progress. there is canary image that uses the new desktop installer; based on top of subiquity/curtin and can use the same autoinstall yaml files as server-live image over here. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-canary/pending/ but it is still an experimental (non-default) image.
[11:46] <gombara> xnox. ok. thanks a lot again for the help
[12:03] <ahasenack> good morning
[14:07] <ogayot> hello! I'm looking for a sponsor (MOTU or coredev) for LP: #1969817 . This is a backport of an upstream aiohttp patch that we'd need to get SRU-ed into focal. Thanks!
[14:46] <GunnarHj> ogayot: Sponsored.
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[14:48] <GunnarHj> yw
[20:36] <ben> anyone know why the repos have a symlink to itself? http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/
[20:38] <sarnold> heh I've wondered that for years :)
[20:39] <ben> i've been looking at a couple different mirrors and they all have slightly different behaviors when you get to the lowest symlink lol
[20:39] <ben> some allow more levels, some don't show the final 403 index entry
[20:39] <ben> seems to be a difference between nginx / apache
[21:09] <xnox> ben:  sarnold: the best bit is why is ports behaviour different. you will notice that top level / is empty and has /ubuntu/ subdir with everything inside it.
[21:10] <ben> amazing
[21:10] <xnox> but on ports http://ports.ubuntu.com/ everything is hosted directly in the top-level, with /ubuntu-ports/ a symlink to the top level
[21:10] <xnox> with an infinity ubuntu-ports symlink doom
[21:11] <xnox> i bet only people with ftpmaster access can answer that.
[21:11] <ben> i wonder if the symlink limit is because of the filesystem or whatever webserver it's running
[21:12] <xnox> it's expected for mirrors to be static websites, and yes they are hosted by all sorts of web-servers, so yeah i bet host-os details come into play.
[21:12] <sarnold> xnox: ha! I've never noticed..
[21:12] <xnox> i wonder if that is leaky side channel.
[21:13] <xnox> every year the symlink depth is bumped by one.....
[21:17] <sarnold> lol
[21:19] <ben> i noticed that nginx lets you go a few more levels down
[21:19] <ben> and apache may or may not show a link to one that fails
[23:24] <cjwatson> it makes some sense for the canonical path to start at /ubuntu rather than at / - it means you can easily combine mirrors of multiple sites onto one host without having to change the path, which is kind of convenient
[23:24] <cjwatson> I think the symlink is likely "it was handy for somebody once and then nobody dared to remove it because by this point it would probably break something"
[23:24] <sarnold> *nod* an omnibus archive for ubuntu, debian, kali, pop_os, corel, etc makes sense..
[23:25] <cjwatson> I'm going to blame lamont because I can
[23:25] <sarnold> heh, yeah
[23:25] <sarnold> rofl
[23:25] <cjwatson> (and it's not totally implausible)
[23:25] <cjwatson> lrwxrwxrwx   1 lp_publish lp_publish        1 Nov 24  2010 ubuntu -> .
[23:25] <cjwatson> IDK if that timestamp is truly accurate though, could be an artifact from a server migration
[23:26] <cjwatson> the archive/ports split is constructed by a weird thing called magic-mirror that I went years of doing archive maintenance and Launchpad work without having access to at all and still don't really grok
[23:27] <cjwatson> but the symlink isn't set explicitly there
[23:28] <cjwatson> set -e # Disobedience must be punished to ensure a correct society.
[23:28] <cjwatson> obviously useful things like that are
[23:29] <cjwatson> it's conceivable it might be set up in a charm somewhere nowadays but I'm going to bet that it's just on syncproxy's disk ...
[23:31] <sarnold> is there any chance for a 'unified view' of the archive on the outside with the recent infrastructure changes? I'd really like one thing to rsync from without the whole firewall hole poking exercise, that scares me a bit..
[23:31] <cjwatson> not at the moment
[23:31] <cjwatson> I mean it's in principle conceivable for sure, I'm not sure what would have to change though
[23:32] <cjwatson> it's somewhat a bandwidth conservation measure so maybe it's possible to poke holes
[23:32] <cjwatson> probably nobody's priority though
[23:32] <sarnold> heh, thanks; every now and then other folks ask for eg amd64 and arm64 archives, etc..
[23:32] <sarnold> and I'd kinda like one for an easy way to search all our binary packages from time to time
[23:33] <cjwatson> yeah
[23:33] <sarnold> but "nobody's priority" sums it up perfectly, I couldn't actually ask anyone to spend time on it
[23:33] <cjwatson> my grand plan eventually has the primary version of the archive being served dynamically by a webapp rather than by managing files on disk.  Not sure if that makes this sort of thing easier or harder :)
[23:34] <sarnold> hahahaha
[23:34] <cjwatson> (this is easier for PPAs where the requirements are a bit simpler, though still a big lift.  for the primary archive we'd need to work out what to do about rsync ...)