[13:06] <zxmpi> my psion is now a year old and still on it's 2nd bunch of batteries :-D
[14:57] <davef> I charged up my Nokia 1110i in 2005 and it's still going!
[15:13] <daftykins> xD
[15:13] <daftykins> saw something new today, look at these massive embroidery machines - https://www.tajima.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/image-fmx2c-4-1.jpg
[15:15] <zxmpi> so multiple stations run by one computer?
[15:15] <daftykins> yeah seems like, little Windows CE thing
[15:15] <daftykins> i was greatly amused when i saw one of them had a CMOS battery error xD
[15:16] <zxmpi> still knocking around because ms made a deal with some asian company aiui
[15:16] <zxmpi> they could put it on all their systems, so they still are :-P
[15:16] <daftykins> :)
[15:17] <daftykins> right now they feed the designs to the machine via USB flash drive, amusingly a port had failed so i gave a hand replacing the tiny little board in the control unit with the display today, among other jobs
[15:17] <daftykins> right beside that is a LAN port though, so they really ought to be networked up and then presumably software can just spit things directly over
[15:18] <zxmpi> you really don't want that on a network. did you learn nothing from the battlestar reboot? :-P
[15:19] <daftykins> xD
[15:19] <zxmpi> you'd end up with the embroidary stations mining crypto faster than you can download mcafee for wince
[15:20] <daftykins> was quite amusing when i spotted the router was one of the Netgears commonly being taken over to be botnet members of late, made sure to update that one and set a custom password (default was on)
[15:21] <zxmpi> you changed admin admin to admin admin2. you monster! :-P
[15:22] <daftykins> \o/
[15:22] <daftykins> safe as houses
[15:23] <zxmpi> just like your luggage
[15:29] <daftykins> so you'd keep it offline? :)
[15:30] <zxmpi> only way to be sure. a pain for moving files around but safer i think
[15:31] <zxmpi> otherwise it's one email click from getting buggered. 
[15:31] <daftykins> yeah if they didn't have a separate system for admin-y roles to the one for running the machines, i'd agree
[15:32] <daftykins> suppose it depends on how painful the procedure is, they seem to have the main program on a Windows PC that spits out drawings via an export feature, those are popped onto a flash drive and then that's plugged in to load 'em up
[15:32] <zxmpi> seperate is good, isolated is better. ymmv
[15:32] <zxmpi> i haven't kept up with wince since well i had one strapped to be draining a sepsis wound :-)
[15:33] <zxmpi> *to me
[15:33] <daftykins> cor they get everywhere!
[15:33] <daftykins> i bet the sight of that had you relaxed ;)
[15:33] <zxmpi> i was more curious to see how easy it was to compromise. quite easy
[15:34] <zxmpi> here's your new pacemaker, avoid being near microwaves or gobshites with a usb drive
[15:35] <daftykins> \o/
[15:35] <daftykins> such is the way with medical gear especially
[15:35] <zxmpi> i did like when dick cheney was fitted with a pacemaker it was a special security hardened one. it couldn't be accessed wirelessly for security reasons
[15:36] <zxmpi> just seems like a really bad idea to havee your heart depending on anything windows or wifi /security/
[15:46] <zxmpi> i do wonder how long it has been in use for a usb port to fail and how they managed to damage it.
[15:47] <daftykins> 10 years they'd had it, i mentioned that ports aren't really rated for regular reconnection, but that's not bad going for the lifespan of the machine
[15:47] <daftykins> obviously they've taken care with them
[15:48] <daftykins> i think the decision will rest on whether the existing software can feed them over or whether it requires something else, i just found a video on the topic - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyXTJg3LHXs
[15:48] <daftykins> "Pulse" being software the manufacturer offers
[15:48] <zxmpi> add a usb extender cable as the cable they plug into so that they are holding both ends of the socket instead of some sod trying to insert the drive like he's shanking someone in a prison?
[15:50] <daftykins> mmm plenty of options, first time i met them today though so have to think it through :D
[15:50] <daftykins> she mentioned they'll be kicked out of their current premises before too long as well, so that might be a good time for change
[15:50] <zxmpi> cause i'm sure i've told you of the point of sales place where someone managed to insert a zip disk in the backup drive backwards *TWICE*
[15:51] <daftykins> xD
[15:51] <daftykins> funnily enough the POS card machine needed some attention today also, kept dropping off the WiFi
[15:51] <zxmpi> it protests every cm inserted backwards. still got it all the way in
[15:51] <daftykins> scary what the great unwashed will do
[15:52] <daftykins> no LAN port on the new unit, though their previous one did have one... different WiFi settings made no odds, it just seemed to fall asleep... so i showed her a 'restore' button that woke it back up
[15:52] <zxmpi> someone was taking the piss as far as i see it. no one is that stupid. and i've seen dumb you would not believe
[16:11] <daftykins> who would want to damage their own gear though D:
[16:12] <daftykins> heh this place had a QNAP NAS in beside the PC, but i could tell it was asleep - the network drive wasn't mapped and so each user directory such as 'Downloads' and 'Documents' was failing due to being mapped to there
[16:12] <phablet> hello
[16:13] <daftykins> greetings
[16:13] <phablet> how are you doing
[16:13] <zxmpi> in a point of sales place? any staff who has to live by the motto, 'the customer is always right' :-/
[16:13] <daftykins> ah not bad, it has been a survivable Wednesday
[16:13] <daftykins> looking forward to heading out and playing the final game of the local pool league season in a couple of hours
[16:14] <phablet> no just like are you feeling alright
[16:14] <daftykins> well that's not really relevant i'm afraid
[16:14] <phablet> sorry
[16:14] <daftykins> so you're already off to a bad start joining a channel and behaving weirdly