[08:48] <global_elites> m4t: can I ask how you did that? when I try to remove the ayatana packages I get broken dependencies
[13:38] <m4t> not the libraries
[13:40] <m4t> i still have these installed: gir1.2-ayatanaappindicator3-0.1 libayatana-appindicator3-1 libayatana-ido3-0.4-0:amd64 libayatana-indicator3-7:amd64
[13:52] <m4t> it's been a while since i did it though. a bunch got reinstalled during do-release-upgrade from 20.04. i did have a few diverted at one point to keep them from starting, when dependencies were an issue
[13:53] <m4t> something like: 39479  04/26/20 00:18:27 for f in indicator-application.desktop indicator-messages.desktop indicator-power.desktop indicator-session.desktop indicator-sound.desktop; do dpkg-divert --local --rename --divert /usr/share/mate/autostart/$f.disabled --add /usr/share/mate/autostart/$f; done