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jStefanjhutchins, 22.10 is in the future, not the scope of this channel00:43
jStefan!next00:43
ubottuKinetic Kudu is the codename for Ubuntu 22.10. For technical support, see #ubuntu-next. For testing and QA feedback and help, see #ubuntu-quality.00:43
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jhutchinsOk, pedants, how do you disable compositing on _22.04_ Gnome.01:54
thricepretty sure you cannot disable compositing02:00
thriceit's built-in to gnome's shell, and always active02:01
jhutchinsSo maybe my answer was the best one after all.02:03
enigma9o7[m]well probably worth trying gnome x11 to see if its different.  But if wayland turns games from 60fps to 5fps I think others would have noticed and it'd be a big deal....02:34
comicsansgso...those bug report messages you'd get if a process crashed...I could never get them to display me anymore information other than the binary path if I told it to show more.02:58
comicsansgit just sits there indefinitely ;-;02:58
comicsansgI get the feeling it's working for everyone else, since it's still a feature in today's release02:58
comicsansg*er...current release02:59
syllini'm using the default desktop environment on 20.04, i think gnome. i'm finding that logging out of the desktop session (be it through shut down, or just the "log out" button) is causing some of my applications to shut down ungracefully. does anyone know what ubuntu does re: sigterms, sigkills, etc, in this case?04:09
rdrcan you guys see this: 〜(꒪꒳꒪)〜 specifically the characters in the middle, they show up as boxes for me04:24
rdri swapped over from ubuntu-mate by installing ubuntu-desktop but i might be missing a font04:25
enigma9o7[m]I can.04:26
rdrenigma9o7[m]: are you on your phone or ubuntu?  I might be missing a font package, if you are on your computer maybe we could compare font packages04:26
enigma9o7[m]On a computer.04:28
rdri have all the fonts of a normal ubuntu installation apparently04:28
* enigma9o7[m] posted a file: (59KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/zhBjIPsFLZokJBNeEzfPSaNj/fonts.txt >04:29
enigma9o7[m]Do I really need 645 fonts, good god.04:30
rdrhmm, i tmight help if i knew the command you used to generate the list04:32
rdror if you could do it through apt by grepping for font packages04:32
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Jari--morning, happy with my Ubuntu distribution04:37
rdrenigma9o7[m]: nm, found it, it was noto-fonts, the full package04:38
enigma9o7[m]〜(꒪꒳꒪)〜04:39
rdryay04:39
rdrthe happy feeling you get when you solve a problem and close 8 tabs04:39
Jari--enigma9o7[m]: what sort of codes, I see A4 AA A4 B3 A4 AA only04:39
Jari--what is it?04:40
enigma9o7[m]It's what rdr originally asked about, owo in small letters (kinda)04:40
rdrhttps://u.teknik.io/zwQF4.png04:41
jammyI don't see a noto-fonts package?04:42
rdrsorry it's fonts-noto04:42
enigma9o7[m]〜(꒪꒳꒪)〜04:45
jammyshould it work in irssi?04:47
puziam i audible04:48
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Bashing-omjammy: fonts-noto-mono is what I use here on irssi.04:50
ruziok04:50
Bashing-om!info fonts-noto-mono04:50
ubottufonts-noto-mono (20201225-1build1, jammy): "No Tofu" monospaced font family with large Unicode coverage. In component main, is optional. Built by fonts-noto. Size 388 kB / 1,160 kB04:50
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BitI want to install ubuntu server 22.04 LTS via autoinstall. On Ubuntu 20.04 LTS can I simply change the parameters in the GUI. But how can I change the parameters in grub on 22.04?08:42
ice9I have hyprid graphics and using nvidia's prop driver; in Xorg the CPU fan is very quite (2500 RPM) while in Wayland, it's (3500 RPM minimum) and very loud all the time, though there is no high system load, any idea?08:45
michaelroseDidn't wayland and nvidia only very very recently gain the ability to accelerate xwayland ice908:54
michaelroseso logically your CPU is working very hard to do work the GPU was going which doesn't appear to be a permanent issue to some degree it will be resolved by updating you also naturally want to make sure that you are enabling any hardware accelerated decoding in your browser of choice which is notably different from merely having hardware acceleration in general enabled for your browser08:56
jlucHow is screen icc profiles color management on wayland now ? Is it now possible ?08:57
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hans_how can i check WHAT job is running when shutdown is hanging like "A stop job is running for Session c1 of user hans" ?09:02
hans_like this https://i.imgur.com/AskuShq.png09:02
hans_what "stop job" is running? how can i check?09:03
BitI want to install ubuntu server 22.04 LTS via autoinstall. On Ubuntu 20.04 LTS can I simply change the parameters in the GUI. But how can I change the parameters in grub on 22.04?09:04
alkisg# systemctl | grep -i session09:12
alkisgsession-c2.scope            loaded active running   Session c2 of User alkisg09:12
alkisgThe stop job is the session c1 itself; it would be nice to have a hotkey to list the jobs processes though09:12
alkisgsystemctl status session-c2.scope => lists of processes; but I don't know of any way to run that while the system shuts down09:13
alkisgBit, press e in grub, and edit the command line?09:15
alkisgThere's an #ubuntu-server channel btw09:15
hans_Bit: my best guess is in /etc/default/grub09:15
hans_Bit: but i don't actually know.09:15
hans_Bit: remember to run `sudo update-grub` (or was it `sudo grub-update` ?) after editing /etc/default/grub tho09:16
Macerso do all ubuntu apps roll out with snap now?09:20
ograMacer, some do09:25
ChalkyTest message09:40
ChalkyMy land network is fine but my wireless does not work.  Any ideas where  to start.09:43
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gryChalky hi09:44
ChalkyHi09:44
gryChalky did your wireless work before?09:44
ChalkyYes, before I upgraded to 22.04.09:44
lsd|2networkmanager gave ass?09:44
gryChalky what error message does it show when you try to connect to wireless?09:44
ChalkyNot sure what you mean.  I dont get anthing now.  No symbol in settings and if i diconnect the wire connection no symbol there either.09:46
lsd|2Chalky: command "iwconfig" saying something ?09:47
lsd|2if mode says none or auto its fucked09:47
Chalkylo        no wireless extensions.09:48
Chalkyeno1      no wireless extensions.09:48
ogralsd|2, can you tame your language a bit ?09:48
ograChalky, looks like a driver issue09:48
ograChalky, have you checked for proprietary drivers in the software settings yet ?09:49
ChalkyI agree09:49
ogra(while you are on a wired connection preferably)09:49
ChalkyChecked no there and none available09:50
ograhmm09:51
ogradoes "rfkill" list a wireless device ?09:51
ChalkyWorked before with 21.04 and 21.1009:51
ChalkyNo09:53
ogralspci | grep -i net | nc termbin.com 999909:53
ogragive the url this returns here ...09:53
ChalkyDo I just copy and paste the command into the terminal?09:54
ograyep09:55
ograit shoudl list all network cards on your PCI bus and paste that to termbin09:55
ChalkyReturns this hyperlink  https://termbin.com/ovs709:55
Chalky00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection (Lewisville) (rev 04)09:56
ograChalky, so the system does not see a wireless device at all ...09:56
ograChalky, arew you sure there is no hardware switch i.e. on your keyboard to toggle wlan off/on ?09:56
ChalkyMmmm, it's a destop and I have plugged on a dongle.09:57
ogra(many laptops have such a key somewhere on the function row)09:57
ograoh, you should have said that it is a dongle 🙂09:57
ChalkySoz09:57
ograrun the above command again but replace "lspci" with "lsusb"09:58
ograhmm, or not ... one sec09:58
ogralsusb | nc termbin.com 999909:59
ogrause that one instead09:59
Chalkyhttps://termbin.com/2e2e09:59
ograBus 003 Device 002: ID 0bda😛812 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL88x2bu [AC1200 Techkey]10:00
ograthere we go ...10:00
ChalkyBus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub10:00
ChalkyBus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub10:00
ChalkyBus 001 Device 004: ID 413c:2005 Dell Computer Corp. RT7D50 Keyboard10:00
ChalkyBus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:c016 Logitech, Inc. Optical Wheel Mouse10:00
ChalkyBus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub10:00
ChalkyBus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub10:00
ChalkyBus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub10:00
ograeeek, dont10:00
ogra(this is what the termbin is for 😉 )10:00
Chalkytermbin ??10:01
ograclick the link you posted 😉10:01
ograit has the stuff you tried to paste here10:02
lsd|2Chalky: it just gives your output to website if someone will be interested will have a look on it, bot here has silenced you10:02
Chalkyok10:03
ChalkyI am now looking at the data in the link10:03
ograhttps://github.com/cilynx/rtl88x2BU_WiFi_linux_v5.3.1_27678.20180430_COEX20180427-595910:03
ograthere is a driver ... lets see if there is probably a pre-packaged dkms version in the archive10:03
ograChalky, one of these two packages should help: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=rtl88&searchon=names&suite=jammy&section=all10:05
ograi sadly do not know which of them ... but my guess would go to rtl8821ce-dkms10:06
ograso install that, reboot and see if you get wifi then10:06
ograif not, uninstall it again and try the other10:07
Guest81i installed nextcloud with snap. is there a way to direct it to http://my.great.server/nc and not to its default http://my.great.server ?  So I can install other server snap stuff without using haproxy?10:07
ograif that does not work either, uninstall that too and follow the instructions on the github link i gave above10:07
ChalkyOK, I believe I now need to install one or both of these drivers.   On my own :-o .  Thanks for the help much appreciated!10:08
ograsudo apt install rtl8812au-dkms10:08
ograthats all you need to do10:08
Chalky:-)10:08
ograto uninstall: sudo apt purge rtl8812au-dkms10:08
ogra(bit dont forget to reboot after installing)10:08
ograGuest81, https://github.com/nextcloud-snap/nextcloud-snap/issues probably ask there if https://github.com/nextcloud-snap/nextcloud-snap does not have the instructions you need10:10
Chalkyinstalling now10:10
ChalkyRebooting,  Thansk !!!!!!10:12
ogragood luck10:12
gryChalky how is it10:27
muniv,,10:41
Guest81ogra, thx10:50
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eoli3nHi, i'm trying my preseed file that I use for focal on jammy11:20
eoli3nit seems to work, but it asks for which kind of installation I want "normal or minimal"11:21
eoli3nhow to answer this with preseed ?11:21
Macereoli3n: if you are using it as a desktop then normal is probably what you are looking for11:27
Macerpersonally i’d rather use minimal and install everything i want / need11:27
eoli3nthanks Macer but you didn't get my questio11:29
eoli3nn11:29
Macerguess not lol11:30
Chalkymodprobe: FATAL: Module 88x2BU not found in directory /lib/modules/5.15.0-27-generic11:30
eoli3nmy question is not "what should I choose between nomal or minimal" but how to automate this answer with an automated preseed installation11:30
Maceroh11:30
ograChalky, what did you do ?11:31
Macerno idea then  i’d probably just turn them into img and dd the image to drives and set up a script to expand the file system to it11:31
smallville7123is this normal?       libQt5Core.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory11:31
ograsmallville7123, looks like a missing dependency11:31
ChalkyHi, it's not worked so far11:31
ograChalky, well, what did you try yet ?11:32
ogra(explain each step you did)11:32
ChalkyI get this message: modprobe: FATAL: Module 88x2BU not found in directory /lib/modules/5.15.0-27-generic11:32
Jeremy31Chalky: See https://github.com/cilynx/rtl88x2bu.git as that other one is deprecated11:32
ograwhet did you do before this, step by step11:33
ogra*what11:33
ChalkyInstalled the first driver as you stated11:33
ograk11:33
Chalkyok11:33
ograand that dd not work automatically ?11:33
ogra*did11:33
ChalkyNo11:33
ChalkyRebooted11:34
Chalkyremoved dongle before rebooting.11:34
ograand plugged it back after booting ?11:34
ChalkyYes11:34
ograk11:34
Macerin the case of my wifi not working i just connected it to my bluetooth phone hotspot and used the proprietary drivers section11:35
ogradid you then uninstall the firt deb and installed the other one ?11:35
Chalkychecked to see if a Perpiotery diver appeared ....  no11:35
Macerah ok. that sucks.11:35
ograChalky, not sure they would show up there11:36
Jeremy31Chalky: rtl8821ce-dkms only works with PCI(e) wifi11:36
ograChalky, which of the packages did you try first ?11:36
Chalkyuninstalled the first deb but could not remember the command for the second, so did the first again. .....no joy11:36
ograwell, uninstall it with apt purge and try the second11:36
Macerthe real fun is when you have to unearth firmware lol11:37
ograif that does not work you will need to try the one from github11:37
Maceris ndiswrapper still a thing? might be able to use windows drivers too.11:37
ograChalky, and Jeremy31 is correct rtl8812au-dkms is for usb devices ...11:37
Chalkythis one: sudo apt purge rtl8812au-dkms11:38
ograis that the one you had installed ?11:38
Chalkyyes11:38
smallville7123wsl --install -d Ubuntu-20.04          wait for download & install to finish           sudo apt update && sudo apt install qterm && qterm11:38
ograokay, that means you will need to use github11:38
ChalkyI've looked at that and it's very confusing to me.11:39
ograChalky, sudo apt install git ... then git clone https://github.com/cilynx/rtl88x2bu.git11:40
ograChalky, next: cd rtl88x2bu11:40
smallville7123btw is it normal to have a speed of 279 kb/s in apt get11:40
lsd|2smallville7123: missing kde or qt libraries11:41
ograChalky, if you are in that directory you run "sudo ./deploy.sh"11:41
ograit should then build and install the driver11:41
smallville7123Unpacking libqt5core5a:amd64 (5.12.8+dfsg-0ubuntu2.1) ...11:41
mrkubax10does the WSL ubuntu package include graphical environment11:41
Chalkywhat does git ... mean?11:42
smallville7123no11:42
mrkubax10qterm is graphical application...11:42
dTalit means a right arseole11:42
smallville7123Chalky: git is the command line interface for communicating with github.com11:42
smallville7123among other things11:43
ogramrkubax10, https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-on-wsl2-on-windows-11-with-gui-support#1-overview11:43
mrkubax10ogra: it was question for smallville7123 :D11:44
smallville7123xserver's do exist lol11:44
ograah, i thought it was for the channel 🙂11:44
ograeither way, it should work11:44
lsd|2Chalky: its a tool for devs when you baking your cake you have a list11:44
smallville7123Processing triggers for libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0:amd64 (2.40.0+dfsg-3ubuntu0.2) ...11:45
smallville7123qterm: error while loading shared libraries: libQt5Core.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory11:45
lsd|2Chalky: go on, its not far to do so11:45
mrkubax10smallville7123: do you have working graphical environment inside WSL?11:48
ograsmallville7123, there is ##windows-wsl .. perhaps you have better chances to get answers there, but that clearly seems like an issue with the library path in use11:49
ogra(since that lib got clearly installed in your paste above)11:50
ChalkyTerminal is asking for Username for 'https://github.com':11:50
ograChalky, for the clone command ?11:50
ograit shoudl not ...11:50
Chalkyyes11:50
ograhow exactly did you run it ?11:50
Jeremy31typo, Chalky11:51
ChalkyI don't think it has ran.11:51
ogragit clone https://github.com/cilynx/rtl88x2bu.git11:51
ogradefinitely works here without askign anything11:51
Jeremy31it only asks for password on git clone when there is a typo11:51
Chalkyso far:  $ git clone https://github.com/cilynx/l88x2bu.git11:52
ogratypo 😉11:52
lsd|2what for is that $ sign11:52
lsd|2dont use it never in console11:52
Chalkycloning into 'l88x2bu' ...11:52
Jeremy31there is no l88x2bu11:52
ograright11:52
ograChalky, copy/paste my line above11:52
Chalkyok11:53
ChalkyDone11:56
ogracd into the dir it created11:56
ogracd rtl88x2bu11:56
ograthen run "sudo ./deploy.sh" (just copy paste what is between the quotes)11:57
Chalkyin11:58
eoli3nwhere can I get help on a preseed ubuntu install?11:59
ChalkyBuilding module11:59
ogragreat11:59
Jeremy31Chalky: Secure Boot will need to be disabled if you have an UEFI install, check>  mokutil --sb-state12:00
ogragive the deb based dkms installs worked i dont think there is any secureboot involved here12:01
ogra*given12:01
lsd|2Chalky: dont do it now, but is very useful when you press altogether cltr+ c in console12:02
lsd|2it gives you back to previous state12:03
ChalkyChecked, secure boot is disabled12:03
ograChalky, did the script finish without errors ?12:04
Chalkyyes and I am in dir rtl88x2bu12:06
lsd|2[12:57] <ogra> then run "sudo ./deploy.sh" (just copy paste what is between the quotes)12:06
ograwell, reboot ... and leave the dongle plugged ... see if it worked12:06
Chalkydoing it now.  Will come back to you after.12:06
* ogra wishes ... good luck ... 12:07
smallville7123upgrading to wsl 2 seemed to fix it12:07
ograyay12:08
smallville7123:)12:08
webchat89Hello everyone.12:11
webchat89I am experiencing a really really weird bug on ubuntu 22.04. Almost everytime I start, or install a virtual machine. My system logs me out automatically. I can't figure out why.12:12
Chalkyit worked !!!!12:13
ograChalky, hooray !!! enjoy12:13
ChalkyWhat was the issue before?12:13
ograheh12:14
ChalkyWas that a clean reinstall12:14
ChalkyYour probably a busy man  delete man ... insert genious !! Thanks again, gone !12:15
webchat89Will ubuntu log you out automatically if you try to use too many system resources at once?12:15
ograwebchat89, normally not12:35
webchat89I just noticed that it is doing it and there may not be enough available ram.12:36
gyro412hello all, i'm have issues connecting to Ubuntu 22.04 via RDP and VNC using Remmina on a Raspberry Pi client. The server receives key strokes and mouseclicks(not movement) but i have not display on the client side. Server is using AMD rx580 gpu with Kernel drivers12:39
eoli3nwhere can I get help on a preseed ubuntu install?12:41
ograwebchat89, if linux runs out of ram (and swap space) it starts killing processes pretty randomly ... it would likely not every time kill the same thing12:42
ograeoli3n, peraps there is someone in #ubuntu-devel who implemented the new options in ubiquity ... note though that this is not a support channel usually ...12:44
eoli3nthanks, just asked12:45
jahralLEAVE12:45
ogragyro412, 22.04 defaults to wayland ... try to log out and pick an Xorg session on the Pi ... see if that helps12:46
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asanUhmm, i'm trying to debug the postinstall script in a deb package. where can i get help13:32
Jeremy31asan: paste the script at dpaste, post URL and tell us what is wrong13:39
WeeBeyHello frens. Is there any trick to make an Apple MagicMouse visible in ubuntu? It is not shown in the bluetooth manager13:51
WeeBeyin the gui app, it doesn't show. From terminal I could see it. I did: #trust MAC and then #pair MAC13:55
BluesKajHi all13:55
WeeBeyboth said successful, but still no mouse in blueman and no mouse movement13:55
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WeeBeyomg, christmas miracle. It connected through the terminal. It asked for a pincode and it was 0000 ll14:07
WeeBeyOof. It's not usable.14:11
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FatAlberthi14:23
FatAlbertis there a wawy to apt-get install ansible but only the manual pages ?14:23
ograFatAlbert, sudo apt install ansible-doc perhaps ?14:24
leftyfbFatAlbert: why not just read something like https://linux.die.net/man/1/ansible?14:24
leftyfbogra: there's no ansible-doc package14:25
FatAlbertleftyfb: because i can't run filtering commands and other `less' like utilities on that14:25
ograleftyfb, on my 20.04 there is14:25
FatAlbertim using 18.0414:25
leftyfbah, looks like it's in universe which might not be enabled on the fresh 22.04 I have here14:26
FatAlbertok stop fighting i need tgo get the man pages of ansible14:26
FatAlbert:D14:26
leftyfbhm, nope, I have universe enabled14:27
ograhttp://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/en/man1/ansible.1.html14:27
ogradoes that suffice ?14:27
ogra(or do you need them locally)14:28
ograalso, we're not fighting here ... we're "cuddling aggressively" 😉14:29
leftyfblooks like it's gone in jammy https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=jammy&keywords=ansible-doc14:29
rob0ogra++14:29
ograyeah, it only existed in focal as a package14:30
nbusroneHi , I have a usb flashdrive which auto unmount.How to check for error14:30
leftyfbyeah, not in bionic either14:31
leftyfbnbusrone: look in dmesg -Tw # while you plug it in and try to mount it14:31
nbusroneleftyfb : which pastebin website i should paste ?14:36
nbusronefor the log14:36
leftyfbnbusrone: you can use any one you want, though this is ubuntu, so there is obviously a biased towards https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14:37
nbusroneleftyfb : it ask for login , any alternative ?14:38
leftyfbnbusrone: again, any one you want14:38
leftyfbnbusrone: dmesg -T | nc termbin.com 999914:39
nbusroneleftyfb : https://paste.ee/p/9writ#Nnv6r3T8KeOSJNhfJ1uKHnmSGXmZKodu14:42
nbusroneleftyfb : sorry for late reply , search for alternative pastebin and choose paste.ee on some recommended website.14:43
leftyfbnbusrone: you can try to run fsck or similar on it, but the drive might be bad14:43
nbusroneleftyfb : I tried fsck but it still auto unmount14:44
nbusroneleftyfb : https://paste.ee/p/llWqn#geSiPO6AwdoZMo0zw2VsergU8_YZHBj714:44
nbusroneleftyfb : everytime i plugin doing anything , it always give me this error usb 3-6: device descriptor read/64, error -11014:48
leftyfbIt's probably a bad drive. Buy a new one14:48
nbusroneleftyfb : https://paste.ee/p/EpQd7#6nBSM8r6rMY1vvZ5bhgrhK8KhY8NHSQX14:51
nbusroneleftyfb : it was fine yesterday14:51
leftyfbThat's how faults happen. One day they're fine, the next they're not14:52
ezekiel4udoes anybody here know of a good vpn?14:52
leftyfb!ot | ezekiel4u14:52
ubottuezekiel4u: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:52
nbusroneleftyfb : The drive was plugin to the smart tv , and today i turn on the tv doesn14:53
nbusronetv doesn't start and i turn off and remove the drive and plugin again , until i need to copy a file it get stuck and auto unmount.14:53
nbusroneleftyfb : do you confirm it's pen drive issue faulty or i cn still format and save? what are the reason it auto unmount ?14:54
leftyfbnbusrone: run fsck on it, repartition/reformat it. If it's still giving I/o errors, it's a bad drive. Throw it away and get a new one14:55
nbusroneleftyfb : which fsck commend to fix ? not very sure the command14:57
gyro412ogra, i tried using an X session on the Ubuntu (server) side but not on the pi. The pi is Sway and has no issues connecting to my other machines.14:57
leftyfbhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tecmint.com/fsck-repair-file-system-errors-in-linux/amp/14:57
hackermanHi. I installed a newer version of libseccomp via dpkg in an attempt to fix an issue on my system but as it didn't resolve it, would like to remove it. I still have libseccomp2 installed via aptitude, but when I attempt to remove the deb install via dpkg --remove libseccomp2, it won't let me due to dependencies. Is there a way to remove the dpkg15:27
hackermanversion since the apt version is still installed?15:27
leftyfbhackerman: which release of ubuntu?15:28
kostkon!info libseccomp215:28
hackerman20.04 currently15:28
ubottulibseccomp2 (2.5.3-2ubuntu2, jammy): high level interface to Linux seccomp filter. In component main, is important. Built by libseccomp. Size 47 kB / 145 kB. (Only available for linux-any.)15:28
hackermanubunt userver15:28
Jeremy31hackerman: If installed manually using a deb file, you could double click on the file and see if the software tool will allow you to remove15:29
leftyfbhackerman: sudo apt install libseccomp2=2.5.1-1ubuntu1 --reinstall15:29
hackermanleftyfb E: Version '2.5.1-1ubuntu1' for 'libseccomp2' was not found15:30
ioria=2.5.1-1ubuntu1~20.04.215:30
leftyfboh, needs the full thing. Not something I do very often :)15:30
hackermanLooks like that did it - dpkg -l now shows only 2.5.1. Thanks!15:31
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leftyfbhackerman: this is why we recommend sticking with only official ubuntu packages from your running release of ubuntu15:32
hackermanagreed. 2.5.4 is in 22.04 but haven't upgraded yet. Will stick to os releases moving forward. I think this was an edge case with a specific docker container that required >= 2.5.315:33
urkHow do I backup folders at the command line?  This morning I ran an update, and it toasted my system.  The update was suspicious since it offered to update 64 packages.15:47
oxfuxxxtar -cvf backup.tar /path/to/folders15:48
leftyfburk: there is no built-in manner to revert a system. You can use rsync to backup your personal files to an separate storage device15:49
leftyfburk: what version of ubuntu are you running and what packages were updated and what errors were there? How was your system "toasted"?15:49
jhutchins!backup15:50
ubottuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup, !borg, and !cloning15:50
urkleftyfb:  I don't recall, but it is the most current.15:52
smallville7123o.o yay https://github.com/DesktopECHO/kWSL works15:52
leftyfburk: ok, it seems like you have no interest in fixing it. Use rsync to copy your files to a new storage device and install fresh. Good luck15:54
urkOxfuxxx:   Thanks.  I'm trying to get to the command line at bootup.15:54
leftyfburk: use a live usb15:56
urkleftyfb:   I do have an interest in fixing it.  I need to first get to the command line so that I can back up the files, and then will revisit the issue of repair.  Condition is pretty bad so don't know if it can be repaired.15:58
jhutchinsI don't seem to have seen much mention of LVM snapshots as a way to protect against bad upgrades lately.  I've only worked with VMWare snapshots, which are great for that.  Do LVM snapshots work?15:59
ravageurk, you can mount and fix the system from the live usb too15:59
jhutchinsurk: Vague generalities do not lend themselves to solutions, you'll do better if you can ask specific questions about specific functions.16:00
CSWookieI want to install tzdata from a script, but it asks a couple of questions about location.  Is there a way to supply them from the command prompt?16:01
CSWookieMore specifically, I want to install it as part of a Dockerfile based on ubuntu:20.04.16:02
kostkonCSWookie, those 2 envs in your dockerfile: ENV DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive ENV TZ=<your timezone>, then RUN ln -snf /usr/share/zoneinfo/$TZ /etc/localtime \ && echo $TZ > /etc/timezone16:04
CSWookieWill that make it so that I don't need to install tzdata, or will that make it so my install proceeds without asking?16:05
kostkonCSWookie, you won't need to install it afaik16:06
ograCSWookie, you normally need to pre-seed the debconf prompts if the packge does not actually allow env variables to override them ...16:06
CSWookieThanks @kostikon ogra what does pre-seed.16:07
ogra(not sure what tzdata requires here ... "sudo debconf-show tzdata" shows the currently set data)16:07
ograhttps://wiki.debian.org/PackageManagement/Preseed16:07
CSWookieThank you.16:07
ogranote that if you can use env vars, this is usually easier ... but some prompts require actualy pre-seed values16:09
kostkonCSWookie, that '\' in ' \ &&' is not supposed to be there, fyi, just happens that that cmd is spread into 2 lines in my Dockerfile16:09
noarbdoes ubuntu have some sort of apt cache enabled by default? what is the benefit of using something like Apt-Cacher NG ?16:09
ograa package proxy like apt-cacher saves you from re-downloading if you i.e. do package builds in chroots or containers or have many ubuntu machines in a network16:10
noarbis it just more fully featured than apt-cache? Doesn't a fresh install have some caching enabled by default?16:11
ravagenoarb, a local installation usually downloads a package once. there is no need or any caches16:12
ograno idea which one is more featueful ... i tend to use the packageproxy snap (which is based on approx) ...16:12
ravage*for16:12
nbusroneleftyfb :  how to force usb flash drive not to automatically un mount ?16:16
JoelTrying to upgrade 20.04 to 22.04, thoughts on what this trying to tell me? https://gist.github.com/jjshoe/c9f5c03e9533bfb7bceac757cfb36a8016:19
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ograJoel, i'd guess you have some third party repo eabled and installed docker from there which made a mess16:22
ogratry "sudo apt -f install"16:23
ograthat should remove the wrong packages or try to resolve the mess if it can16:23
Joelogra will give it a shot, thanks16:30
qqzHi, I wanted to update my gpg key at launchpad16:36
qqzfollowing the instructions I did at first upload it to hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com16:36
qqzthen I registered the fingerprint at launchpad and got an encrypted email16:37
qqzI have decrypted that email with my key which did work fine16:37
ograqqz, there is #launchpad for launchpad support ....16:37
qqzthe key fingerprint in the decrypted message was correct and so I opened the url referenced in the decrypted message16:37
qqzahh, ok16:38
Joelhrumph, I'm certain I've made a mess, haha.16:42
JoelHrm, now it's complaining I don't have enough free space in /boot, but I for sure only have a single kernel installed, 22mb short. What a pain.17:12
Joelhttps://gist.github.com/jjshoe/3259e34c33e8fe79a5cd6b23108dad4a17:12
Joelif anyone has tips on how to save more space, lmk :\17:13
ravagethat already looks pretty minimal17:13
ravagedid you create that boot partition yourself?17:13
ravagei dont think Ubuntu uses one at all on a default install17:13
ravagei would try to resize that partition with a gparted livecd if possible17:15
ravageyou will always have trouble with any new kernel updates17:15
JoelI did not create it myself.17:15
ravagewhat filesystem is / ?17:16
ravageis the system encrypted?17:16
Joelthe system is encrypted17:17
ravageok that explains that there is a boot partition17:17
JoelI'm reading I can try setting MODULES=most to MODULES=dep in /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf17:18
ravagethat will take up even more space than dep17:19
Joel?17:19
ogrado-release-upgrade will make sure your currently running kernel sticks around, so you can always go back to that one17:19
ravagehe cant go back to anything if he cant start the upgrade ogra :)17:20
ograand yes, Modules=dep is a way to slim down the initrd17:20
ravagegetting more space in /boot needs messing with your LVM i think17:21
ravagei would not touch that without a full backup. and with a full backup you can just do a fresh install17:21
Joelogra yeah, trimmed 40mb, should be able to update.17:21
ravageisnt dep the default?17:21
ogranope17:21
ogramost ...17:21
ravageok17:21
ravagewhy? :D17:21
ografor the biggest compatibility17:22
Joelogra thanks again for all your help on the way here17:22
ravagemkay17:22
ograi.e. you can always just replace HW or add a controller or some such withut having to re-build the initrd17:22
ravageok. http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man5/initramfs.conf.5.html17:22
ravageif i could read i knew it :)17:22
JoelI didn't change the compression option to xz yet, either, so could probably save a little bit more, but figured I'd start with MODULES=dep17:22
ogra(or stick your disk into a completely different machine)17:22
ravagemy bpool is about 2GB. should be be plenty :)17:23
ogradep pretty much tiest it to exactly the HW you run on17:23
ogra*ties17:23
Joelogra good to know. post update I could always switch it back. Might not hurt for me to look into shrinking/growing partitions on an encrypted drive. I had assumed the sizing had something to do with grub requirements17:24
JoelThough, I won't ever move the hard drive, honestly.17:25
JoelI'm far more likely to buy a new hd, and mount existing at another mount point, and copy stuff over.17:26
ravagebuy a SSD :)17:26
freakyy85does ubuntu have any php version below 8.1?17:45
freakyy85jammy17:45
ravageno17:45
freakyy85that sucks, nextcloud doesnt support php8.117:46
freakyy85;)17:46
ravagethere are PPAs. but thats not supported here then17:46
ograsudo snap install nextcloud ...17:46
freakyy85ok thanks all17:47
ogra(maintained *by* nextcloud themselves)17:47
freakyy85ogra i already tried installing but im using caddy17:48
freakyy85and not apache17:48
ograah, well, yeah, with the snap you have to use whats bundled indeed17:48
ravagefreakyy85, the most (and only?) PPA for that is https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php17:48
gordonjcpfreakyy85: it doesn't matter what Ubuntu has17:49
ograyou could still use caddy as a frontend server/reverse proxy though17:49
gordonjcpfreakyy85: it's insane to run it on your machine directly, just run it in a docker container17:49
freakyy85gordon: caddy? or nextcloud?17:49
gordonjcpfreakyy85: both17:49
ravagewhy is it insane? i nextcloud on LXC and it works just fine17:49
freakyy85why? caddy is a webserver17:50
ravagei find docker more insane17:50
gordonjcpravage: well, lxc is still a container17:50
ograif you go container, go the full path and use snaps 😉17:50
ogra(though indeed not if you cant live with the bundled webserver 😄  )17:51
urkI'm trying to unpack the contents of a tar file on a memory stick, but it isn't unpacking after running tar -xvf file-name.tar.  Also the file-name.tar is red.  Is that normal?17:59
ograred means it ihas been marked executable ... (probably wrongly) ... yu can just ignore that18:00
urkogra:  How come the file won't unpack?18:03
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enigma9o7[m]What happens when you try?18:06
gordonjcpurk: maybe it's not a tar file18:07
urkenigma8o7[m]: nothing at all18:07
urkIt's a tar file.18:08
gordonjcpare you sure18:08
Jeremy31urk: >  file filename.tar.gz18:08
urkThe file name is backup.tar18:08
gordonjcpurk: that doesn't mean it's a tar file18:08
Jeremy31file backup.tar18:08
* filename urk: > Jeremy3118:09
goddardis something wrong with the ubuntu iso?18:09
enigma9o7[m]Nothing, just returns the prompt?18:09
enigma9o7[m]`tar xf backup.tar`18:09
Jeremy31goddard: I just did an install earlier18:09
ravagegoddard, the answer is probably no. and there is more than one Ubuntu ISO18:10
goddardill try with safe graphics because it just gets stuck and never loads18:10
urkFile name is v18:10
urkBackup.tar18:10
Jeremy31Can you check the properties of it in file manager?18:11
urkI created it when copying the documents, and picture folders to a usb18:12
urkI have no window manager, and only access to the command line.  Nothing works after the last update.18:13
gordonjcpurk: what is the output of "file backup.tar"?18:14
phr34kCan anybody lend me a hand. I just did a version upgrade from 16 to 20.04, seem pretty fine for the most part, but somehow it knocked cloud-init, and it doesn't configure the network properly.18:23
phr34kI'm just not sure what I can do about it, I'm not that savvy with linux yet, can anybody steer me in the right direction?18:24
alkisgphr34k: are you talking about cloud-init or about netplan?18:26
phr34kwell it's a ubuntu hosted at digital ocean, cloud-init overwrites the netplan config files, but every time i reboot it basically whipes out the ipv4 address configuration it's supposed to have.18:28
phr34kI basically got a line like this "Getting data from <class 'cloudinit.sources.DataSourceDigitalOcean.DataSourceDigitalOcean'> failed" somewhere in the cloud init log, I'm not really sure what that's all about though18:29
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goddardany way to manually get my firefox data to the snap or flatpak?19:17
goddardi tried copy and pasting .mozilla folder but it never works19:17
urkleftyfb:  I would like to see if I can repair my system, but don't have a clue as to where to begin.   I'm in Live CD, but using the Debian district which doesn't work very well on this co.puter.19:18
urkI'm using the gpt partition scheme, and it lookske gpt3 is where the corrupted fe system resides.19:20
Joelupdate mostly went well, so far only chromium not working, but no shock there19:26
jilocasinafternoon everyone19:33
JoelDo snaps still leverage ~/.config for app level storage, or is it something else more complicated now?19:34
jilocasindoes anyone know of a linux command (not shell construct) that can tell if a path resolves to a file or a directory? thanks.19:34
Joeljilocasin file19:35
alkisgjilocasin: and `test -f`, `test -d` aren't suitable for your use case?19:36
jilocasinalkisg: no19:36
alkisg...because?19:37
alkisgThey are executables19:37
alkisgls /usr/bin/test ....19:37
jilocasinI need to find a bunch of files.  locate can't tell the difference between files and directories.  Users have named many folders that same as the file I am looking for.  Therefore I need a command that I can pipe the output of locate into and filter out anything that's a directory.19:38
ogrause find ?19:38
jilocasinogra:I started this morning, and it's *still* running.19:38
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ioriajilocasin, stat /path/to/*   is a good command, but idk if it's suitable for your use case19:40
alkisglocate ... | while read -r f; test -f "$f" && echo "$f"; done19:40
alkisgI've no idea why you don't like shell constructs, they fit exactly what you described19:41
jilocasinalkisg: because when I try somerthing like your example, I get errors like this:  -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `done'19:44
ioriaalkisg, you missed a 'do'19:44
PdqHappy to report that I was able to fix my system completely, and everything works fine now.  Apparently a full upgrade didn't complete itself properly, but now is working.19:44
PdqI didn't have to reinstall.  Thank goodness.19:45
alkisgjilocasin: what ioria said19:45
alkisglocate ... | while read -r f; do test -f "$f" && echo "$f"; done19:45
alkisgOr -d to print directories19:45
jilocasinalkisg: did it an it runs without returning anything19:46
alkisgPaste two lines of sample output19:47
alkisg(of your locate command)19:47
alkisgE.g. this one prints all files that contain "share", but not the directory /usr/share:    locate share | while read -r f; do test -f "$f" && echo "$f"; done19:48
ioriajilocasin, or   locate <filename> | xargs ls -dl | grep -v ^d19:49
ioriajilocasin, if you really want to use 'locate'19:50
jilocasinioria: no, but my only other option is find, and it's taking *hours* to search.19:52
jilocasinmy locate command is: sudo locate -e -b -r ^foo$19:58
iorianope, it does find directories too19:59
ioriayou said no directories19:59
ctnxbqfor find to be slow you'd need to have 100500 billion files in your system20:02
jilocasinctnxbq: close20:02
ioriayep, suspicious20:02
jilocasinioria: there isn't a locate option (that I know of) that will only return files.20:02
ioriajilocasin, nope, but can build it :    locate <filename> | xargs ls -dl | grep -v ^d20:03
jilocasinioria: tried it, fails becasue each part needs to be run as sudo20:03
ioriajilocasin, nope20:04
Guest32I bricked a chromebook trying to install ubuntu (via usb). I now have a new chromebook (11e chromebook thinkpad). is this computer compatible with ubuntu?20:05
ioriajilocasin, you 're doing something really wrong there20:05
jilocasinioria: I just tried it, I set the first part as sudo, as I have to, and then the second complains that I don't have permissions to ls -dl, and if I try to xarg sudo -s " " then it complains that there's no ls-dl |grep command20:06
ctnxbqjust thinking, find needs to go recursively over directories. Will then the timestamp for directories updated too (i.e. each read causes write) if noatime is not set for a partition?20:06
ioriajilocasin, it's not ls-dl but ls -dl   (there is a space)20:06
ioriajilocasin, btw, good luck20:07
jilocasinioria: yes I know that (see the first part of my comment) the second part was just a type on my end.20:08
jilocasinthanks and take care20:08
JoelUgh, One other broken thing, ddccontrol no longer works for switching monitors *sob* most painful thing to have go in my upgrade. grrr.20:08
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TrippyJAloha! Does there exist something I can install that provides some good, basic diagnostics for my VPS that I can access via web? CPU, disk, RAM, stuff like that - ideally, I'd like to be able to serve it from my current web server, but that isn't a strict requirement20:27
freakyy85Oh yes thatd be smth interesting20:28
TrippyJI seen a java solution the produced a jar, but ... eh. I'd like the information to go to a database or something20:29
leftyfbTrippyJ: https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/kibana/current/metrics.html20:29
freakyy85Webinterface with cool graphics20:29
freakyy85Systemstats20:30
TrippyJYeah like uhh20:31
TrippyJhtop20:31
TrippyJhmm I wonder if I can just grab the information from that for web, actually20:31
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leftyfbTrippyJ: I gave you a link20:31
TrippyJI am reading that one also, but having trouble understanding it20:31
leftyfbTrippyJ: regardless, #ubuntu-offtopic would be more appropriate for software opinions. This is a support channel20:32
jhutchinsTrippyJ: Not quite what you asked for, but you might look at Nagios, Icinga, and CheckMK.  They're meant for remote monitoring of more than one server, but they do the job.20:34
leftyfbTrippyJ: what you're looking for will not be as simple as "sudo apt install magic-application"20:35
TrippyJIndeed, but I am pretty sure it is just a couple lines of code actually, now, for the basics that I wanted. I am checking out some of the stuff jhutchins mentioned, but I don't think the Kibana Metrics applies to my use case20:36
leftyfbit 100% does and will do a better job of it than any of the ones jhutchins suggestion. Those are more meant for a NOC to monitor and respond to issues. I sounds like you're looking for pretty historical graphs20:37
leftyfbwhile nagios/icinga/checkmk can do graphs, they are neither pretty nor "a couple lines of code" to get working20:38
leftyfbbecause that isn't what they are meant for20:38
freakyy85Hm20:39
jhutchinsI would say CheckMK qualifies as pretty (for some values of pretty).20:41
de-factohmm sometimes the hot corner or the exposee feature is "stuck" on gnome 4221:16
de-factorepeatedly pressing super key brings it back to some deterministic state21:17
de-factosometimes i cant even choose windows in the exposee view via mouse21:17
leftyfb!bug | de-facto21:17
ubottude-facto: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.21:17
de-factono idea about details such as package or bug, just an observation21:18
leftyfbde-facto: start with the "gnome-shell" package21:20
de-factoi cant even reliably reproduce it yet, i just observe it sometimes21:21
de-factodid not understand what leads to that state yet21:21
leftyfbde-facto: that's fine, just report the bug21:21
leftyfbreport what you know21:21
imihow do I change between icon themes? I want the default high contrast black and white back21:25
leftyfbimi: install gnome-tweaks21:27
enigma9o7[m]imi: with gnome, right?21:43
enigma9o7[m]assuming yes, then open gnome tweaks, go to apperance tab, and click the little down arrow next to icons, and chose highcontrast21:47
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goddardmany flatpak apps can run22:48
goddard (gnome-extensions-app:3): Gtk-WARNING **: 18:46:54.346: cannot open display:22:48
goddardsays this22:48
leftyfbgoddard: flatpak isn't officially supported on ubuntu22:49
imihow do I change between icon themes? I want the default high contrast black and white back (wayland most probably)23:01
leftyfbimi: you've been answered twice23:01
imiok thanks23:02
imithat changes the window appearance I mean the icons on the left23:05
goddard/ #flatpak23:12
enigma9o7[m]imi, i already answered you.  did it not work as I described?23:13
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kjazhederahola!23:40
wezG'day.23:44

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