[00:43] jhutchins, 22.10 is in the future, not the scope of this channel [00:43] !next [00:43] Kinetic Kudu is the codename for Ubuntu 22.10. For technical support, see #ubuntu-next. For testing and QA feedback and help, see #ubuntu-quality. === JanC is now known as Guest5108 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [01:54] Ok, pedants, how do you disable compositing on _22.04_ Gnome. [02:00] pretty sure you cannot disable compositing [02:01] it's built-in to gnome's shell, and always active [02:03] So maybe my answer was the best one after all. [02:34] well probably worth trying gnome x11 to see if its different. But if wayland turns games from 60fps to 5fps I think others would have noticed and it'd be a big deal.... [02:58] so...those bug report messages you'd get if a process crashed...I could never get them to display me anymore information other than the binary path if I told it to show more. [02:58] it just sits there indefinitely ;-; [02:58] I get the feeling it's working for everyone else, since it's still a feature in today's release [02:59] *er...current release [04:09] i'm using the default desktop environment on 20.04, i think gnome. i'm finding that logging out of the desktop session (be it through shut down, or just the "log out" button) is causing some of my applications to shut down ungracefully. does anyone know what ubuntu does re: sigterms, sigkills, etc, in this case? [04:24] can you guys see this: 〜(꒪꒳꒪)〜 specifically the characters in the middle, they show up as boxes for me [04:25] i swapped over from ubuntu-mate by installing ubuntu-desktop but i might be missing a font [04:26] I can. [04:26] enigma9o7[m]: are you on your phone or ubuntu? I might be missing a font package, if you are on your computer maybe we could compare font packages [04:28] On a computer. [04:28] i have all the fonts of a normal ubuntu installation apparently [04:29] * enigma9o7[m] posted a file: (59KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/zhBjIPsFLZokJBNeEzfPSaNj/fonts.txt > [04:30] Do I really need 645 fonts, good god. [04:32] hmm, i tmight help if i knew the command you used to generate the list [04:32] or if you could do it through apt by grepping for font packages === vai is now known as Jari-- [04:37] morning, happy with my Ubuntu distribution [04:38] enigma9o7[m]: nm, found it, it was noto-fonts, the full package [04:39] 〜(꒪꒳꒪)〜 [04:39] yay [04:39] the happy feeling you get when you solve a problem and close 8 tabs [04:39] enigma9o7[m]: what sort of codes, I see A4 AA A4 B3 A4 AA only [04:40] what is it? [04:40] It's what rdr originally asked about, owo in small letters (kinda) [04:41] https://u.teknik.io/zwQF4.png [04:42] I don't see a noto-fonts package? [04:42] sorry it's fonts-noto [04:45] 〜(꒪꒳꒪)〜 [04:47] should it work in irssi? [04:48] am i audible === puzi is now known as ruzi [04:50] jammy: fonts-noto-mono is what I use here on irssi. [04:50] ok [04:50] !info fonts-noto-mono [04:50] fonts-noto-mono (20201225-1build1, jammy): "No Tofu" monospaced font family with large Unicode coverage. In component main, is optional. Built by fonts-noto. Size 388 kB / 1,160 kB === ick is now known as pick === pick is now known as sick === sick is now known as pick === pick is now known as sick === sick is now known as wick === wick is now known as tick === diskin_ is now known as diskin === tick is now known as ick === ick is now known as appliedmath [08:42] I want to install ubuntu server 22.04 LTS via autoinstall. On Ubuntu 20.04 LTS can I simply change the parameters in the GUI. But how can I change the parameters in grub on 22.04? [08:45] I have hyprid graphics and using nvidia's prop driver; in Xorg the CPU fan is very quite (2500 RPM) while in Wayland, it's (3500 RPM minimum) and very loud all the time, though there is no high system load, any idea? [08:54] Didn't wayland and nvidia only very very recently gain the ability to accelerate xwayland ice9 [08:56] so logically your CPU is working very hard to do work the GPU was going which doesn't appear to be a permanent issue to some degree it will be resolved by updating you also naturally want to make sure that you are enabling any hardware accelerated decoding in your browser of choice which is notably different from merely having hardware acceleration in general enabled for your browser [08:57] How is screen icc profiles color management on wayland now ? Is it now possible ? === pizzaiolo is now known as pizza [09:02] how can i check WHAT job is running when shutdown is hanging like "A stop job is running for Session c1 of user hans" ? [09:02] like this https://i.imgur.com/AskuShq.png [09:03] what "stop job" is running? how can i check? [09:04] I want to install ubuntu server 22.04 LTS via autoinstall. On Ubuntu 20.04 LTS can I simply change the parameters in the GUI. But how can I change the parameters in grub on 22.04? [09:12] # systemctl | grep -i session [09:12] session-c2.scope loaded active running Session c2 of User alkisg [09:12] The stop job is the session c1 itself; it would be nice to have a hotkey to list the jobs processes though [09:13] systemctl status session-c2.scope => lists of processes; but I don't know of any way to run that while the system shuts down [09:15] Bit, press e in grub, and edit the command line? [09:15] There's an #ubuntu-server channel btw [09:15] Bit: my best guess is in /etc/default/grub [09:15] Bit: but i don't actually know. [09:16] Bit: remember to run `sudo update-grub` (or was it `sudo grub-update` ?) after editing /etc/default/grub tho [09:20] so do all ubuntu apps roll out with snap now? [09:25] Macer, some do [09:40] Test message [09:43] My land network is fine but my wireless does not work. Any ideas where to start. === fowl5 is now known as fowl [09:44] Chalky hi [09:44] Hi [09:44] Chalky did your wireless work before? [09:44] Yes, before I upgraded to 22.04. [09:44] networkmanager gave ass? [09:44] Chalky what error message does it show when you try to connect to wireless? [09:46] Not sure what you mean. I dont get anthing now. No symbol in settings and if i diconnect the wire connection no symbol there either. [09:47] Chalky: command "iwconfig" saying something ? [09:47] if mode says none or auto its fucked [09:48] lo no wireless extensions. [09:48] eno1 no wireless extensions. [09:48] lsd|2, can you tame your language a bit ? [09:48] Chalky, looks like a driver issue [09:49] Chalky, have you checked for proprietary drivers in the software settings yet ? [09:49] I agree [09:49] (while you are on a wired connection preferably) [09:50] Checked no there and none available [09:51] hmm [09:51] does "rfkill" list a wireless device ? [09:51] Worked before with 21.04 and 21.10 [09:53] No [09:53] lspci | grep -i net | nc termbin.com 9999 [09:53] give the url this returns here ... [09:54] Do I just copy and paste the command into the terminal? [09:55] yep [09:55] it shoudl list all network cards on your PCI bus and paste that to termbin [09:55] Returns this hyperlink https://termbin.com/ovs7 [09:56] 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection (Lewisville) (rev 04) [09:56] Chalky, so the system does not see a wireless device at all ... [09:56] Chalky, arew you sure there is no hardware switch i.e. on your keyboard to toggle wlan off/on ? [09:57] Mmmm, it's a destop and I have plugged on a dongle. [09:57] (many laptops have such a key somewhere on the function row) [09:57] oh, you should have said that it is a dongle 🙂 [09:57] Soz [09:58] run the above command again but replace "lspci" with "lsusb" [09:58] hmm, or not ... one sec [09:59] lsusb | nc termbin.com 9999 [09:59] use that one instead [09:59] https://termbin.com/2e2e [10:00] Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0bda😛812 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL88x2bu [AC1200 Techkey] [10:00] there we go ... [10:00] Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub [10:00] Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub [10:00] Bus 001 Device 004: ID 413c:2005 Dell Computer Corp. RT7D50 Keyboard [10:00] Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:c016 Logitech, Inc. Optical Wheel Mouse [10:00] Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub [10:00] Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub [10:00] Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub [10:00] eeek, dont [10:00] (this is what the termbin is for 😉 ) [10:01] termbin ?? [10:01] click the link you posted 😉 [10:02] it has the stuff you tried to paste here [10:02] Chalky: it just gives your output to website if someone will be interested will have a look on it, bot here has silenced you [10:03] ok [10:03] I am now looking at the data in the link [10:03] https://github.com/cilynx/rtl88x2BU_WiFi_linux_v5.3.1_27678.20180430_COEX20180427-5959 [10:03] there is a driver ... lets see if there is probably a pre-packaged dkms version in the archive [10:05] Chalky, one of these two packages should help: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=rtl88&searchon=names&suite=jammy§ion=all [10:06] i sadly do not know which of them ... but my guess would go to rtl8821ce-dkms [10:06] so install that, reboot and see if you get wifi then [10:07] if not, uninstall it again and try the other [10:07] i installed nextcloud with snap. is there a way to direct it to http://my.great.server/nc and not to its default http://my.great.server ? So I can install other server snap stuff without using haproxy? [10:07] if that does not work either, uninstall that too and follow the instructions on the github link i gave above [10:08] OK, I believe I now need to install one or both of these drivers. On my own :-o . Thanks for the help much appreciated! [10:08] sudo apt install rtl8812au-dkms [10:08] thats all you need to do [10:08] :-) [10:08] to uninstall: sudo apt purge rtl8812au-dkms [10:08] (bit dont forget to reboot after installing) [10:10] Guest81, https://github.com/nextcloud-snap/nextcloud-snap/issues probably ask there if https://github.com/nextcloud-snap/nextcloud-snap does not have the instructions you need [10:10] installing now [10:12] Rebooting, Thansk !!!!!! [10:12] good luck [10:27] Chalky how is it [10:41] ,, [10:50] ogra, thx === GavinHsueh is now known as root === root is now known as Guest4247 === GavinHsueh is now known as root === root is now known as Guest2768 === Guest2768 is now known as RootMan === RootMan is now known as rootMan === rootMan is now known as RootMan === RootMan is now known as GavinHsueh === GavinHsueh is now known as RootMan === RootMan is now known as rootman [11:20] Hi, i'm trying my preseed file that I use for focal on jammy [11:21] it seems to work, but it asks for which kind of installation I want "normal or minimal" [11:21] how to answer this with preseed ? [11:27] eoli3n: if you are using it as a desktop then normal is probably what you are looking for [11:27] personally i’d rather use minimal and install everything i want / need [11:29] thanks Macer but you didn't get my questio [11:29] n [11:30] guess not lol [11:30] modprobe: FATAL: Module 88x2BU not found in directory /lib/modules/5.15.0-27-generic [11:30] my question is not "what should I choose between nomal or minimal" but how to automate this answer with an automated preseed installation [11:30] oh [11:31] Chalky, what did you do ? [11:31] no idea then i’d probably just turn them into img and dd the image to drives and set up a script to expand the file system to it [11:31] is this normal? libQt5Core.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [11:31] smallville7123, looks like a missing dependency [11:31] Hi, it's not worked so far [11:32] Chalky, well, what did you try yet ? [11:32] (explain each step you did) [11:32] I get this message: modprobe: FATAL: Module 88x2BU not found in directory /lib/modules/5.15.0-27-generic [11:32] Chalky: See https://github.com/cilynx/rtl88x2bu.git as that other one is deprecated [11:33] whet did you do before this, step by step [11:33] *what [11:33] Installed the first driver as you stated [11:33] k [11:33] ok [11:33] and that dd not work automatically ? [11:33] *did [11:33] No [11:34] Rebooted [11:34] removed dongle before rebooting. [11:34] and plugged it back after booting ? [11:34] Yes [11:34] k [11:35] in the case of my wifi not working i just connected it to my bluetooth phone hotspot and used the proprietary drivers section [11:35] did you then uninstall the firt deb and installed the other one ? [11:35] checked to see if a Perpiotery diver appeared .... no [11:35] ah ok. that sucks. [11:36] Chalky, not sure they would show up there [11:36] Chalky: rtl8821ce-dkms only works with PCI(e) wifi [11:36] Chalky, which of the packages did you try first ? [11:36] uninstalled the first deb but could not remember the command for the second, so did the first again. .....no joy [11:36] well, uninstall it with apt purge and try the second [11:37] the real fun is when you have to unearth firmware lol [11:37] if that does not work you will need to try the one from github [11:37] is ndiswrapper still a thing? might be able to use windows drivers too. [11:37] Chalky, and Jeremy31 is correct rtl8812au-dkms is for usb devices ... [11:38] this one: sudo apt purge rtl8812au-dkms [11:38] is that the one you had installed ? [11:38] yes [11:38] wsl --install -d Ubuntu-20.04 wait for download & install to finish sudo apt update && sudo apt install qterm && qterm [11:38] okay, that means you will need to use github [11:39] I've looked at that and it's very confusing to me. [11:40] Chalky, sudo apt install git ... then git clone https://github.com/cilynx/rtl88x2bu.git [11:40] Chalky, next: cd rtl88x2bu [11:40] btw is it normal to have a speed of 279 kb/s in apt get [11:41] smallville7123: missing kde or qt libraries [11:41] Chalky, if you are in that directory you run "sudo ./deploy.sh" [11:41] it should then build and install the driver [11:41] Unpacking libqt5core5a:amd64 (5.12.8+dfsg-0ubuntu2.1) ... [11:41] does the WSL ubuntu package include graphical environment [11:42] what does git ... mean? [11:42] no [11:42] qterm is graphical application... [11:42] it means a right arseole [11:42] Chalky: git is the command line interface for communicating with github.com [11:43] among other things [11:43] mrkubax10, https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-on-wsl2-on-windows-11-with-gui-support#1-overview [11:44] ogra: it was question for smallville7123 :D [11:44] xserver's do exist lol [11:44] ah, i thought it was for the channel 🙂 [11:44] either way, it should work [11:44] Chalky: its a tool for devs when you baking your cake you have a list [11:45] Processing triggers for libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0:amd64 (2.40.0+dfsg-3ubuntu0.2) ... [11:45] qterm: error while loading shared libraries: libQt5Core.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [11:45] Chalky: go on, its not far to do so [11:48] smallville7123: do you have working graphical environment inside WSL? [11:49] smallville7123, there is ##windows-wsl .. perhaps you have better chances to get answers there, but that clearly seems like an issue with the library path in use [11:50] (since that lib got clearly installed in your paste above) [11:50] Terminal is asking for Username for 'https://github.com': [11:50] Chalky, for the clone command ? [11:50] it shoudl not ... [11:50] yes [11:50] how exactly did you run it ? [11:51] typo, Chalky [11:51] I don't think it has ran. [11:51] git clone https://github.com/cilynx/rtl88x2bu.git [11:51] definitely works here without askign anything [11:51] it only asks for password on git clone when there is a typo [11:52] so far: $ git clone https://github.com/cilynx/l88x2bu.git [11:52] typo 😉 [11:52] what for is that $ sign [11:52] dont use it never in console [11:52] cloning into 'l88x2bu' ... [11:52] there is no l88x2bu [11:52] right [11:52] Chalky, copy/paste my line above [11:53] ok [11:56] Done [11:56] cd into the dir it created [11:56] cd rtl88x2bu [11:57] then run "sudo ./deploy.sh" (just copy paste what is between the quotes) [11:58] in [11:59] where can I get help on a preseed ubuntu install? [11:59] Building module [11:59] great [12:00] Chalky: Secure Boot will need to be disabled if you have an UEFI install, check> mokutil --sb-state [12:01] give the deb based dkms installs worked i dont think there is any secureboot involved here [12:01] *given [12:02] Chalky: dont do it now, but is very useful when you press altogether cltr+ c in console [12:03] it gives you back to previous state [12:03] Checked, secure boot is disabled [12:04] Chalky, did the script finish without errors ? [12:06] yes and I am in dir rtl88x2bu [12:06] [12:57] then run "sudo ./deploy.sh" (just copy paste what is between the quotes) [12:06] well, reboot ... and leave the dongle plugged ... see if it worked [12:06] doing it now. Will come back to you after. [12:07] * ogra wishes ... good luck ... [12:07] upgrading to wsl 2 seemed to fix it [12:08] yay [12:08] :) [12:11] Hello everyone. [12:12] I am experiencing a really really weird bug on ubuntu 22.04. Almost everytime I start, or install a virtual machine. My system logs me out automatically. I can't figure out why. [12:13] it worked !!!! [12:13] Chalky, hooray !!! enjoy [12:13] What was the issue before? [12:14] heh [12:14] Was that a clean reinstall [12:15] Your probably a busy man delete man ... insert genious !! Thanks again, gone ! [12:15] Will ubuntu log you out automatically if you try to use too many system resources at once? [12:35] webchat89, normally not [12:36] I just noticed that it is doing it and there may not be enough available ram. [12:39] hello all, i'm have issues connecting to Ubuntu 22.04 via RDP and VNC using Remmina on a Raspberry Pi client. The server receives key strokes and mouseclicks(not movement) but i have not display on the client side. Server is using AMD rx580 gpu with Kernel drivers [12:41] where can I get help on a preseed ubuntu install? [12:42] webchat89, if linux runs out of ram (and swap space) it starts killing processes pretty randomly ... it would likely not every time kill the same thing [12:44] eoli3n, peraps there is someone in #ubuntu-devel who implemented the new options in ubiquity ... note though that this is not a support channel usually ... [12:45] thanks, just asked [12:45] LEAVE [12:46] gyro412, 22.04 defaults to wayland ... try to log out and pick an Xorg session on the Pi ... see if that helps === kushagra071 is now known as kushagra07 [13:32] Uhmm, i'm trying to debug the postinstall script in a deb package. where can i get help [13:39] asan: paste the script at dpaste, post URL and tell us what is wrong [13:51] Hello frens. Is there any trick to make an Apple MagicMouse visible in ubuntu? It is not shown in the bluetooth manager [13:55] in the gui app, it doesn't show. From terminal I could see it. I did: #trust MAC and then #pair MAC [13:55] Hi all [13:55] both said successful, but still no mouse in blueman and no mouse movement === Bencraft4 is now known as Bencraft [14:07] omg, christmas miracle. It connected through the terminal. It asked for a pincode and it was 0000 ll [14:11] Oof. It's not usable. === ChunkzZ is now known as Chunkyz [14:23] hi [14:23] is there a wawy to apt-get install ansible but only the manual pages ? [14:24] FatAlbert, sudo apt install ansible-doc perhaps ? [14:24] FatAlbert: why not just read something like https://linux.die.net/man/1/ansible? [14:25] ogra: there's no ansible-doc package [14:25] leftyfb: because i can't run filtering commands and other `less' like utilities on that [14:25] leftyfb, on my 20.04 there is [14:25] im using 18.04 [14:26] ah, looks like it's in universe which might not be enabled on the fresh 22.04 I have here [14:26] ok stop fighting i need tgo get the man pages of ansible [14:26] :D [14:27] hm, nope, I have universe enabled [14:27] http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/en/man1/ansible.1.html [14:27] does that suffice ? [14:28] (or do you need them locally) [14:29] also, we're not fighting here ... we're "cuddling aggressively" 😉 [14:29] looks like it's gone in jammy https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=jammy&keywords=ansible-doc [14:29] ogra++ [14:30] yeah, it only existed in focal as a package [14:30] Hi , I have a usb flashdrive which auto unmount.How to check for error [14:31] yeah, not in bionic either [14:31] nbusrone: look in dmesg -Tw # while you plug it in and try to mount it [14:36] leftyfb : which pastebin website i should paste ? [14:36] for the log [14:37] nbusrone: you can use any one you want, though this is ubuntu, so there is obviously a biased towards https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ [14:38] leftyfb : it ask for login , any alternative ? [14:38] nbusrone: again, any one you want [14:39] nbusrone: dmesg -T | nc termbin.com 9999 [14:42] leftyfb : https://paste.ee/p/9writ#Nnv6r3T8KeOSJNhfJ1uKHnmSGXmZKodu [14:43] leftyfb : sorry for late reply , search for alternative pastebin and choose paste.ee on some recommended website. [14:43] nbusrone: you can try to run fsck or similar on it, but the drive might be bad [14:44] leftyfb : I tried fsck but it still auto unmount [14:44] leftyfb : https://paste.ee/p/llWqn#geSiPO6AwdoZMo0zw2VsergU8_YZHBj7 [14:48] leftyfb : everytime i plugin doing anything , it always give me this error usb 3-6: device descriptor read/64, error -110 [14:48] It's probably a bad drive. Buy a new one [14:51] leftyfb : https://paste.ee/p/EpQd7#6nBSM8r6rMY1vvZ5bhgrhK8KhY8NHSQX [14:51] leftyfb : it was fine yesterday [14:52] That's how faults happen. One day they're fine, the next they're not [14:52] does anybody here know of a good vpn? [14:52] !ot | ezekiel4u [14:52] ezekiel4u: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [14:53] leftyfb : The drive was plugin to the smart tv , and today i turn on the tv doesn [14:53] tv doesn't start and i turn off and remove the drive and plugin again , until i need to copy a file it get stuck and auto unmount. [14:54] leftyfb : do you confirm it's pen drive issue faulty or i cn still format and save? what are the reason it auto unmount ? [14:55] nbusrone: run fsck on it, repartition/reformat it. If it's still giving I/o errors, it's a bad drive. Throw it away and get a new one [14:57] leftyfb : which fsck commend to fix ? not very sure the command [14:57] ogra, i tried using an X session on the Ubuntu (server) side but not on the pi. The pi is Sway and has no issues connecting to my other machines. [14:57] https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tecmint.com/fsck-repair-file-system-errors-in-linux/amp/ [15:27] Hi. I installed a newer version of libseccomp via dpkg in an attempt to fix an issue on my system but as it didn't resolve it, would like to remove it. I still have libseccomp2 installed via aptitude, but when I attempt to remove the deb install via dpkg --remove libseccomp2, it won't let me due to dependencies. Is there a way to remove the dpkg [15:27] version since the apt version is still installed? [15:28] hackerman: which release of ubuntu? [15:28] !info libseccomp2 [15:28] 20.04 currently [15:28] libseccomp2 (2.5.3-2ubuntu2, jammy): high level interface to Linux seccomp filter. In component main, is important. Built by libseccomp. Size 47 kB / 145 kB. (Only available for linux-any.) [15:28] ubunt userver [15:29] hackerman: If installed manually using a deb file, you could double click on the file and see if the software tool will allow you to remove [15:29] hackerman: sudo apt install libseccomp2=2.5.1-1ubuntu1 --reinstall [15:30] leftyfb E: Version '2.5.1-1ubuntu1' for 'libseccomp2' was not found [15:30] =2.5.1-1ubuntu1~20.04.2 [15:30] oh, needs the full thing. Not something I do very often :) [15:31] Looks like that did it - dpkg -l now shows only 2.5.1. Thanks! === Square is now known as Sqaure [15:32] hackerman: this is why we recommend sticking with only official ubuntu packages from your running release of ubuntu [15:33] agreed. 2.5.4 is in 22.04 but haven't upgraded yet. Will stick to os releases moving forward. I think this was an edge case with a specific docker container that required >= 2.5.3 [15:47] How do I backup folders at the command line? This morning I ran an update, and it toasted my system. The update was suspicious since it offered to update 64 packages. [15:48] tar -cvf backup.tar /path/to/folders [15:49] urk: there is no built-in manner to revert a system. You can use rsync to backup your personal files to an separate storage device [15:49] urk: what version of ubuntu are you running and what packages were updated and what errors were there? How was your system "toasted"? [15:50] !backup [15:50] There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup, !borg, and !cloning [15:52] leftyfb: I don't recall, but it is the most current. [15:52] o.o yay https://github.com/DesktopECHO/kWSL works [15:54] urk: ok, it seems like you have no interest in fixing it. Use rsync to copy your files to a new storage device and install fresh. Good luck [15:54] Oxfuxxx: Thanks. I'm trying to get to the command line at bootup. [15:56] urk: use a live usb [15:58] leftyfb: I do have an interest in fixing it. I need to first get to the command line so that I can back up the files, and then will revisit the issue of repair. Condition is pretty bad so don't know if it can be repaired. [15:59] I don't seem to have seen much mention of LVM snapshots as a way to protect against bad upgrades lately. I've only worked with VMWare snapshots, which are great for that. Do LVM snapshots work? [15:59] urk, you can mount and fix the system from the live usb too [16:00] urk: Vague generalities do not lend themselves to solutions, you'll do better if you can ask specific questions about specific functions. [16:01] I want to install tzdata from a script, but it asks a couple of questions about location. Is there a way to supply them from the command prompt? [16:02] More specifically, I want to install it as part of a Dockerfile based on ubuntu:20.04. [16:04] CSWookie, those 2 envs in your dockerfile: ENV DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive ENV TZ=, then RUN ln -snf /usr/share/zoneinfo/$TZ /etc/localtime \ && echo $TZ > /etc/timezone [16:05] Will that make it so that I don't need to install tzdata, or will that make it so my install proceeds without asking? [16:06] CSWookie, you won't need to install it afaik [16:06] CSWookie, you normally need to pre-seed the debconf prompts if the packge does not actually allow env variables to override them ... [16:07] Thanks @kostikon ogra what does pre-seed. [16:07] (not sure what tzdata requires here ... "sudo debconf-show tzdata" shows the currently set data) [16:07] https://wiki.debian.org/PackageManagement/Preseed [16:07] Thank you. [16:09] note that if you can use env vars, this is usually easier ... but some prompts require actualy pre-seed values [16:09] CSWookie, that '\' in ' \ &&' is not supposed to be there, fyi, just happens that that cmd is spread into 2 lines in my Dockerfile [16:09] does ubuntu have some sort of apt cache enabled by default? what is the benefit of using something like Apt-Cacher NG ? [16:10] a package proxy like apt-cacher saves you from re-downloading if you i.e. do package builds in chroots or containers or have many ubuntu machines in a network [16:11] is it just more fully featured than apt-cache? Doesn't a fresh install have some caching enabled by default? [16:12] noarb, a local installation usually downloads a package once. there is no need or any caches [16:12] no idea which one is more featueful ... i tend to use the packageproxy snap (which is based on approx) ... [16:12] *for [16:16] leftyfb : how to force usb flash drive not to automatically un mount ? [16:19] Trying to upgrade 20.04 to 22.04, thoughts on what this trying to tell me? https://gist.github.com/jjshoe/c9f5c03e9533bfb7bceac757cfb36a80 === hackerman3 is now known as hackerman [16:22] Joel, i'd guess you have some third party repo eabled and installed docker from there which made a mess [16:23] try "sudo apt -f install" [16:23] that should remove the wrong packages or try to resolve the mess if it can [16:30] ogra will give it a shot, thanks [16:36] Hi, I wanted to update my gpg key at launchpad [16:36] following the instructions I did at first upload it to hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com [16:37] then I registered the fingerprint at launchpad and got an encrypted email [16:37] I have decrypted that email with my key which did work fine [16:37] qqz, there is #launchpad for launchpad support .... [16:37] the key fingerprint in the decrypted message was correct and so I opened the url referenced in the decrypted message [16:38] ahh, ok [16:42] hrumph, I'm certain I've made a mess, haha. [17:12] Hrm, now it's complaining I don't have enough free space in /boot, but I for sure only have a single kernel installed, 22mb short. What a pain. [17:12] https://gist.github.com/jjshoe/3259e34c33e8fe79a5cd6b23108dad4a [17:13] if anyone has tips on how to save more space, lmk :\ [17:13] that already looks pretty minimal [17:13]