[00:43] <jStefan> jhutchins, 22.10 is in the future, not the scope of this channel
[00:43] <jStefan> !next
[01:54] <jhutchins> Ok, pedants, how do you disable compositing on _22.04_ Gnome.
[02:00] <thrice> pretty sure you cannot disable compositing
[02:01] <thrice> it's built-in to gnome's shell, and always active
[02:03] <jhutchins> So maybe my answer was the best one after all.
[02:34] <enigma9o7[m]> well probably worth trying gnome x11 to see if its different.  But if wayland turns games from 60fps to 5fps I think others would have noticed and it'd be a big deal....
[02:58] <comicsansg> so...those bug report messages you'd get if a process crashed...I could never get them to display me anymore information other than the binary path if I told it to show more.
[02:58] <comicsansg> it just sits there indefinitely ;-;
[02:58] <comicsansg> I get the feeling it's working for everyone else, since it's still a feature in today's release
[02:59] <comicsansg> *er...current release
[04:09] <syllin> i'm using the default desktop environment on 20.04, i think gnome. i'm finding that logging out of the desktop session (be it through shut down, or just the "log out" button) is causing some of my applications to shut down ungracefully. does anyone know what ubuntu does re: sigterms, sigkills, etc, in this case?
[04:24] <rdr> can you guys see this: 〜(꒪꒳꒪)〜 specifically the characters in the middle, they show up as boxes for me
[04:25] <rdr> i swapped over from ubuntu-mate by installing ubuntu-desktop but i might be missing a font
[04:26] <enigma9o7[m]> I can.
[04:26] <rdr> enigma9o7[m]: are you on your phone or ubuntu?  I might be missing a font package, if you are on your computer maybe we could compare font packages
[04:28] <enigma9o7[m]> On a computer.
[04:28] <rdr> i have all the fonts of a normal ubuntu installation apparently
[04:29]  * enigma9o7[m] posted a file: (59KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/zhBjIPsFLZokJBNeEzfPSaNj/fonts.txt >
[04:30] <enigma9o7[m]> Do I really need 645 fonts, good god.
[04:32] <rdr> hmm, i tmight help if i knew the command you used to generate the list
[04:32] <rdr> or if you could do it through apt by grepping for font packages
[04:37] <Jari--> morning, happy with my Ubuntu distribution
[04:38] <rdr> enigma9o7[m]: nm, found it, it was noto-fonts, the full package
[04:39] <enigma9o7[m]> 〜(꒪꒳꒪)〜
[04:39] <rdr> yay
[04:39] <rdr> the happy feeling you get when you solve a problem and close 8 tabs
[04:39] <Jari--> enigma9o7[m]: what sort of codes, I see A4 AA A4 B3 A4 AA only
[04:40] <Jari--> what is it?
[04:40] <enigma9o7[m]> It's what rdr originally asked about, owo in small letters (kinda)
[04:41] <rdr> https://u.teknik.io/zwQF4.png
[04:42] <jammy> I don't see a noto-fonts package?
[04:42] <rdr> sorry it's fonts-noto
[04:45] <enigma9o7[m]> 〜(꒪꒳꒪)〜
[04:47] <jammy> should it work in irssi?
[04:48] <puzi> am i audible
[04:50] <Bashing-om> jammy: fonts-noto-mono is what I use here on irssi.
[04:50] <ruzi> ok
[04:50] <Bashing-om> !info fonts-noto-mono
[08:42] <Bit> I want to install ubuntu server 22.04 LTS via autoinstall. On Ubuntu 20.04 LTS can I simply change the parameters in the GUI. But how can I change the parameters in grub on 22.04?
[08:45] <ice9> I have hyprid graphics and using nvidia's prop driver; in Xorg the CPU fan is very quite (2500 RPM) while in Wayland, it's (3500 RPM minimum) and very loud all the time, though there is no high system load, any idea?
[08:54] <michaelrose> Didn't wayland and nvidia only very very recently gain the ability to accelerate xwayland ice9
[08:56] <michaelrose> so logically your CPU is working very hard to do work the GPU was going which doesn't appear to be a permanent issue to some degree it will be resolved by updating you also naturally want to make sure that you are enabling any hardware accelerated decoding in your browser of choice which is notably different from merely having hardware acceleration in general enabled for your browser
[08:57] <jluc> How is screen icc profiles color management on wayland now ? Is it now possible ?
[09:02] <hans_> how can i check WHAT job is running when shutdown is hanging like "A stop job is running for Session c1 of user hans" ?
[09:02] <hans_> like this https://i.imgur.com/AskuShq.png
[09:03] <hans_> what "stop job" is running? how can i check?
[09:04] <Bit> I want to install ubuntu server 22.04 LTS via autoinstall. On Ubuntu 20.04 LTS can I simply change the parameters in the GUI. But how can I change the parameters in grub on 22.04?
[09:12] <alkisg> # systemctl | grep -i session
[09:12] <alkisg> session-c2.scope            loaded active running   Session c2 of User alkisg
[09:12] <alkisg> The stop job is the session c1 itself; it would be nice to have a hotkey to list the jobs processes though
[09:13] <alkisg> systemctl status session-c2.scope => lists of processes; but I don't know of any way to run that while the system shuts down
[09:15] <alkisg> Bit, press e in grub, and edit the command line?
[09:15] <alkisg> There's an #ubuntu-server channel btw
[09:15] <hans_> Bit: my best guess is in /etc/default/grub
[09:15] <hans_> Bit: but i don't actually know.
[09:16] <hans_> Bit: remember to run `sudo update-grub` (or was it `sudo grub-update` ?) after editing /etc/default/grub tho
[09:20] <Macer> so do all ubuntu apps roll out with snap now?
[09:25] <ogra> Macer, some do
[09:40] <Chalky> Test message
[09:43] <Chalky> My land network is fine but my wireless does not work.  Any ideas where  to start.
[09:44] <gry> Chalky hi
[09:44] <Chalky> Hi
[09:44] <gry> Chalky did your wireless work before?
[09:44] <Chalky> Yes, before I upgraded to 22.04.
[09:44] <lsd|2> networkmanager gave ass?
[09:44] <gry> Chalky what error message does it show when you try to connect to wireless?
[09:46] <Chalky> Not sure what you mean.  I dont get anthing now.  No symbol in settings and if i diconnect the wire connection no symbol there either.
[09:47] <lsd|2> Chalky: command "iwconfig" saying something ?
[09:47] <lsd|2> if mode says none or auto its fucked
[09:48] <Chalky> lo        no wireless extensions.
[09:48] <Chalky> eno1      no wireless extensions.
[09:48] <ogra> lsd|2, can you tame your language a bit ?
[09:48] <ogra> Chalky, looks like a driver issue
[09:49] <ogra> Chalky, have you checked for proprietary drivers in the software settings yet ?
[09:49] <Chalky> I agree
[09:49] <ogra> (while you are on a wired connection preferably)
[09:50] <Chalky> Checked no there and none available
[09:51] <ogra> hmm
[09:51] <ogra> does "rfkill" list a wireless device ?
[09:51] <Chalky> Worked before with 21.04 and 21.10
[09:53] <Chalky> No
[09:53] <ogra> lspci | grep -i net | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:53] <ogra> give the url this returns here ...
[09:54] <Chalky> Do I just copy and paste the command into the terminal?
[09:55] <ogra> yep
[09:55] <ogra> it shoudl list all network cards on your PCI bus and paste that to termbin
[09:55] <Chalky> Returns this hyperlink  https://termbin.com/ovs7
[09:56] <Chalky> 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection (Lewisville) (rev 04)
[09:56] <ogra> Chalky, so the system does not see a wireless device at all ...
[09:56] <ogra> Chalky, arew you sure there is no hardware switch i.e. on your keyboard to toggle wlan off/on ?
[09:57] <Chalky> Mmmm, it's a destop and I have plugged on a dongle.
[09:57] <ogra> (many laptops have such a key somewhere on the function row)
[09:57] <ogra> oh, you should have said that it is a dongle 🙂
[09:57] <Chalky> Soz
[09:58] <ogra> run the above command again but replace "lspci" with "lsusb"
[09:58] <ogra> hmm, or not ... one sec
[09:59] <ogra> lsusb | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:59] <ogra> use that one instead
[09:59] <Chalky> https://termbin.com/2e2e
[10:00] <ogra> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0bda😛812 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL88x2bu [AC1200 Techkey]
[10:00] <ogra> there we go ...
[10:00] <Chalky> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
[10:00] <Chalky> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[10:00] <Chalky> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 413c:2005 Dell Computer Corp. RT7D50 Keyboard
[10:00] <Chalky> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:c016 Logitech, Inc. Optical Wheel Mouse
[10:00] <Chalky> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
[10:00] <Chalky> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[10:00] <Chalky> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
[10:00] <ogra> eeek, dont
[10:00] <ogra> (this is what the termbin is for 😉 )
[10:01] <Chalky> termbin ??
[10:01] <ogra> click the link you posted 😉
[10:02] <ogra> it has the stuff you tried to paste here
[10:02] <lsd|2> Chalky: it just gives your output to website if someone will be interested will have a look on it, bot here has silenced you
[10:03] <Chalky> ok
[10:03] <Chalky> I am now looking at the data in the link
[10:03] <ogra> https://github.com/cilynx/rtl88x2BU_WiFi_linux_v5.3.1_27678.20180430_COEX20180427-5959
[10:03] <ogra> there is a driver ... lets see if there is probably a pre-packaged dkms version in the archive
[10:05] <ogra> Chalky, one of these two packages should help: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=rtl88&searchon=names&suite=jammy&section=all
[10:06] <ogra> i sadly do not know which of them ... but my guess would go to rtl8821ce-dkms
[10:06] <ogra> so install that, reboot and see if you get wifi then
[10:07] <ogra> if not, uninstall it again and try the other
[10:07] <Guest81> i installed nextcloud with snap. is there a way to direct it to http://my.great.server/nc and not to its default http://my.great.server ?  So I can install other server snap stuff without using haproxy?
[10:07] <ogra> if that does not work either, uninstall that too and follow the instructions on the github link i gave above
[10:08] <Chalky> OK, I believe I now need to install one or both of these drivers.   On my own :-o .  Thanks for the help much appreciated!
[10:08] <ogra> sudo apt install rtl8812au-dkms
[10:08] <ogra> thats all you need to do
[10:08] <Chalky> :-)
[10:08] <ogra> to uninstall: sudo apt purge rtl8812au-dkms
[10:08] <ogra> (bit dont forget to reboot after installing)
[10:10] <ogra> Guest81, https://github.com/nextcloud-snap/nextcloud-snap/issues probably ask there if https://github.com/nextcloud-snap/nextcloud-snap does not have the instructions you need
[10:10] <Chalky> installing now
[10:12] <Chalky> Rebooting,  Thansk !!!!!!
[10:12] <ogra> good luck
[10:27] <gry> Chalky how is it
[10:41] <muniv> ,,
[10:50] <Guest81> ogra, thx
[11:20] <eoli3n> Hi, i'm trying my preseed file that I use for focal on jammy
[11:21] <eoli3n> it seems to work, but it asks for which kind of installation I want "normal or minimal"
[11:21] <eoli3n> how to answer this with preseed ?
[11:27] <Macer> eoli3n: if you are using it as a desktop then normal is probably what you are looking for
[11:27] <Macer> personally i’d rather use minimal and install everything i want / need
[11:29] <eoli3n> thanks Macer but you didn't get my questio
[11:29] <eoli3n> n
[11:30] <Macer> guess not lol
[11:30] <Chalky> modprobe: FATAL: Module 88x2BU not found in directory /lib/modules/5.15.0-27-generic
[11:30] <eoli3n> my question is not "what should I choose between nomal or minimal" but how to automate this answer with an automated preseed installation
[11:30] <Macer> oh
[11:31] <ogra> Chalky, what did you do ?
[11:31] <Macer> no idea then  i’d probably just turn them into img and dd the image to drives and set up a script to expand the file system to it
[11:31] <smallville7123> is this normal?       libQt5Core.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:31] <ogra> smallville7123, looks like a missing dependency
[11:31] <Chalky> Hi, it's not worked so far
[11:32] <ogra> Chalky, well, what did you try yet ?
[11:32] <ogra> (explain each step you did)
[11:32] <Chalky> I get this message: modprobe: FATAL: Module 88x2BU not found in directory /lib/modules/5.15.0-27-generic
[11:32] <Jeremy31> Chalky: See https://github.com/cilynx/rtl88x2bu.git as that other one is deprecated
[11:33] <ogra> whet did you do before this, step by step
[11:33] <ogra> *what
[11:33] <Chalky> Installed the first driver as you stated
[11:33] <ogra> k
[11:33] <Chalky> ok
[11:33] <ogra> and that dd not work automatically ?
[11:33] <ogra> *did
[11:33] <Chalky> No
[11:34] <Chalky> Rebooted
[11:34] <Chalky> removed dongle before rebooting.
[11:34] <ogra> and plugged it back after booting ?
[11:34] <Chalky> Yes
[11:34] <ogra> k
[11:35] <Macer> in the case of my wifi not working i just connected it to my bluetooth phone hotspot and used the proprietary drivers section
[11:35] <ogra> did you then uninstall the firt deb and installed the other one ?
[11:35] <Chalky> checked to see if a Perpiotery diver appeared ....  no
[11:35] <Macer> ah ok. that sucks.
[11:36] <ogra> Chalky, not sure they would show up there
[11:36] <Jeremy31> Chalky: rtl8821ce-dkms only works with PCI(e) wifi
[11:36] <ogra> Chalky, which of the packages did you try first ?
[11:36] <Chalky> uninstalled the first deb but could not remember the command for the second, so did the first again. .....no joy
[11:36] <ogra> well, uninstall it with apt purge and try the second
[11:37] <Macer> the real fun is when you have to unearth firmware lol
[11:37] <ogra> if that does not work you will need to try the one from github
[11:37] <Macer> is ndiswrapper still a thing? might be able to use windows drivers too.
[11:37] <ogra> Chalky, and Jeremy31 is correct rtl8812au-dkms is for usb devices ...
[11:38] <Chalky> this one: sudo apt purge rtl8812au-dkms
[11:38] <ogra> is that the one you had installed ?
[11:38] <Chalky> yes
[11:38] <smallville7123> wsl --install -d Ubuntu-20.04          wait for download & install to finish           sudo apt update && sudo apt install qterm && qterm
[11:38] <ogra> okay, that means you will need to use github
[11:39] <Chalky> I've looked at that and it's very confusing to me.
[11:40] <ogra> Chalky, sudo apt install git ... then git clone https://github.com/cilynx/rtl88x2bu.git
[11:40] <ogra> Chalky, next: cd rtl88x2bu
[11:40] <smallville7123> btw is it normal to have a speed of 279 kb/s in apt get
[11:41] <lsd|2> smallville7123: missing kde or qt libraries
[11:41] <ogra> Chalky, if you are in that directory you run "sudo ./deploy.sh"
[11:41] <ogra> it should then build and install the driver
[11:41] <smallville7123> Unpacking libqt5core5a:amd64 (5.12.8+dfsg-0ubuntu2.1) ...
[11:41] <mrkubax10> does the WSL ubuntu package include graphical environment
[11:42] <Chalky> what does git ... mean?
[11:42] <smallville7123> no
[11:42] <mrkubax10> qterm is graphical application...
[11:42] <dTal> it means a right arseole
[11:42] <smallville7123> Chalky: git is the command line interface for communicating with github.com
[11:43] <smallville7123> among other things
[11:43] <ogra> mrkubax10, https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-on-wsl2-on-windows-11-with-gui-support#1-overview
[11:44] <mrkubax10> ogra: it was question for smallville7123 :D
[11:44] <smallville7123> xserver's do exist lol
[11:44] <ogra> ah, i thought it was for the channel 🙂
[11:44] <ogra> either way, it should work
[11:44] <lsd|2> Chalky: its a tool for devs when you baking your cake you have a list
[11:45] <smallville7123> Processing triggers for libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0:amd64 (2.40.0+dfsg-3ubuntu0.2) ...
[11:45] <smallville7123> qterm: error while loading shared libraries: libQt5Core.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:45] <lsd|2> Chalky: go on, its not far to do so
[11:48] <mrkubax10> smallville7123: do you have working graphical environment inside WSL?
[11:49] <ogra> smallville7123, there is ##windows-wsl .. perhaps you have better chances to get answers there, but that clearly seems like an issue with the library path in use
[11:50] <ogra> (since that lib got clearly installed in your paste above)
[11:50] <Chalky> Terminal is asking for Username for 'https://github.com':
[11:50] <ogra> Chalky, for the clone command ?
[11:50] <ogra> it shoudl not ...
[11:50] <Chalky> yes
[11:50] <ogra> how exactly did you run it ?
[11:51] <Jeremy31> typo, Chalky
[11:51] <Chalky> I don't think it has ran.
[11:51] <ogra> git clone https://github.com/cilynx/rtl88x2bu.git
[11:51] <ogra> definitely works here without askign anything
[11:51] <Jeremy31> it only asks for password on git clone when there is a typo
[11:52] <Chalky> so far:  $ git clone https://github.com/cilynx/l88x2bu.git
[11:52] <ogra> typo 😉
[11:52] <lsd|2> what for is that $ sign
[11:52] <lsd|2> dont use it never in console
[11:52] <Chalky> cloning into 'l88x2bu' ...
[11:52] <Jeremy31> there is no l88x2bu
[11:52] <ogra> right
[11:52] <ogra> Chalky, copy/paste my line above
[11:53] <Chalky> ok
[11:56] <Chalky> Done
[11:56] <ogra> cd into the dir it created
[11:56] <ogra> cd rtl88x2bu
[11:57] <ogra> then run "sudo ./deploy.sh" (just copy paste what is between the quotes)
[11:58] <Chalky> in
[11:59] <eoli3n> where can I get help on a preseed ubuntu install?
[11:59] <Chalky> Building module
[11:59] <ogra> great
[12:00] <Jeremy31> Chalky: Secure Boot will need to be disabled if you have an UEFI install, check>  mokutil --sb-state
[12:01] <ogra> give the deb based dkms installs worked i dont think there is any secureboot involved here
[12:01] <ogra> *given
[12:02] <lsd|2> Chalky: dont do it now, but is very useful when you press altogether cltr+ c in console
[12:03] <lsd|2> it gives you back to previous state
[12:03] <Chalky> Checked, secure boot is disabled
[12:04] <ogra> Chalky, did the script finish without errors ?
[12:06] <Chalky> yes and I am in dir rtl88x2bu
[12:06] <lsd|2> [12:57] <ogra> then run "sudo ./deploy.sh" (just copy paste what is between the quotes)
[12:06] <ogra> well, reboot ... and leave the dongle plugged ... see if it worked
[12:06] <Chalky> doing it now.  Will come back to you after.
[12:07]  * ogra wishes ... good luck ... 
[12:07] <smallville7123> upgrading to wsl 2 seemed to fix it
[12:08] <ogra> yay
[12:08] <smallville7123> :)
[12:11] <webchat89> Hello everyone.
[12:12] <webchat89> I am experiencing a really really weird bug on ubuntu 22.04. Almost everytime I start, or install a virtual machine. My system logs me out automatically. I can't figure out why.
[12:13] <Chalky> it worked !!!!
[12:13] <ogra> Chalky, hooray !!! enjoy
[12:13] <Chalky> What was the issue before?
[12:14] <ogra> heh
[12:14] <Chalky> Was that a clean reinstall
[12:15] <Chalky> Your probably a busy man  delete man ... insert genious !! Thanks again, gone !
[12:15] <webchat89> Will ubuntu log you out automatically if you try to use too many system resources at once?
[12:35] <ogra> webchat89, normally not
[12:36] <webchat89> I just noticed that it is doing it and there may not be enough available ram.
[12:39] <gyro412> hello all, i'm have issues connecting to Ubuntu 22.04 via RDP and VNC using Remmina on a Raspberry Pi client. The server receives key strokes and mouseclicks(not movement) but i have not display on the client side. Server is using AMD rx580 gpu with Kernel drivers
[12:41] <eoli3n> where can I get help on a preseed ubuntu install?
[12:42] <ogra> webchat89, if linux runs out of ram (and swap space) it starts killing processes pretty randomly ... it would likely not every time kill the same thing
[12:44] <ogra> eoli3n, peraps there is someone in #ubuntu-devel who implemented the new options in ubiquity ... note though that this is not a support channel usually ...
[12:45] <eoli3n> thanks, just asked
[12:45] <jahral> LEAVE
[12:46] <ogra> gyro412, 22.04 defaults to wayland ... try to log out and pick an Xorg session on the Pi ... see if that helps
[13:32] <asan> Uhmm, i'm trying to debug the postinstall script in a deb package. where can i get help
[13:39] <Jeremy31> asan: paste the script at dpaste, post URL and tell us what is wrong
[13:51] <WeeBey> Hello frens. Is there any trick to make an Apple MagicMouse visible in ubuntu? It is not shown in the bluetooth manager
[13:55] <WeeBey> in the gui app, it doesn't show. From terminal I could see it. I did: #trust MAC and then #pair MAC
[13:55] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:55] <WeeBey> both said successful, but still no mouse in blueman and no mouse movement
[14:07] <WeeBey> omg, christmas miracle. It connected through the terminal. It asked for a pincode and it was 0000 ll
[14:11] <WeeBey> Oof. It's not usable.
[14:23] <FatAlbert> hi
[14:23] <FatAlbert> is there a wawy to apt-get install ansible but only the manual pages ?
[14:24] <ogra> FatAlbert, sudo apt install ansible-doc perhaps ?
[14:24] <leftyfb> FatAlbert: why not just read something like https://linux.die.net/man/1/ansible?
[14:25] <leftyfb> ogra: there's no ansible-doc package
[14:25] <FatAlbert> leftyfb: because i can't run filtering commands and other `less' like utilities on that
[14:25] <ogra> leftyfb, on my 20.04 there is
[14:25] <FatAlbert> im using 18.04
[14:26] <leftyfb> ah, looks like it's in universe which might not be enabled on the fresh 22.04 I have here
[14:26] <FatAlbert> ok stop fighting i need tgo get the man pages of ansible
[14:26] <FatAlbert> :D
[14:27] <leftyfb> hm, nope, I have universe enabled
[14:27] <ogra> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/en/man1/ansible.1.html
[14:27] <ogra> does that suffice ?
[14:28] <ogra> (or do you need them locally)
[14:29] <ogra> also, we're not fighting here ... we're "cuddling aggressively" 😉
[14:29] <leftyfb> looks like it's gone in jammy https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=jammy&keywords=ansible-doc
[14:29] <rob0> ogra++
[14:30] <ogra> yeah, it only existed in focal as a package
[14:30] <nbusrone> Hi , I have a usb flashdrive which auto unmount.How to check for error
[14:31] <leftyfb> yeah, not in bionic either
[14:31] <leftyfb> nbusrone: look in dmesg -Tw # while you plug it in and try to mount it
[14:36] <nbusrone> leftyfb : which pastebin website i should paste ?
[14:36] <nbusrone> for the log
[14:37] <leftyfb> nbusrone: you can use any one you want, though this is ubuntu, so there is obviously a biased towards https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
[14:38] <nbusrone> leftyfb : it ask for login , any alternative ?
[14:38] <leftyfb> nbusrone: again, any one you want
[14:39] <leftyfb> nbusrone: dmesg -T | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:42] <nbusrone> leftyfb : https://paste.ee/p/9writ#Nnv6r3T8KeOSJNhfJ1uKHnmSGXmZKodu
[14:43] <nbusrone> leftyfb : sorry for late reply , search for alternative pastebin and choose paste.ee on some recommended website.
[14:43] <leftyfb> nbusrone: you can try to run fsck or similar on it, but the drive might be bad
[14:44] <nbusrone> leftyfb : I tried fsck but it still auto unmount
[14:44] <nbusrone> leftyfb : https://paste.ee/p/llWqn#geSiPO6AwdoZMo0zw2VsergU8_YZHBj7
[14:48] <nbusrone> leftyfb : everytime i plugin doing anything , it always give me this error usb 3-6: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[14:48] <leftyfb> It's probably a bad drive. Buy a new one
[14:51] <nbusrone> leftyfb : https://paste.ee/p/EpQd7#6nBSM8r6rMY1vvZ5bhgrhK8KhY8NHSQX
[14:51] <nbusrone> leftyfb : it was fine yesterday
[14:52] <leftyfb> That's how faults happen. One day they're fine, the next they're not
[14:52] <ezekiel4u> does anybody here know of a good vpn?
[14:52] <leftyfb> !ot | ezekiel4u
[14:53] <nbusrone> leftyfb : The drive was plugin to the smart tv , and today i turn on the tv doesn
[14:53] <nbusrone> tv doesn't start and i turn off and remove the drive and plugin again , until i need to copy a file it get stuck and auto unmount.
[14:54] <nbusrone> leftyfb : do you confirm it's pen drive issue faulty or i cn still format and save? what are the reason it auto unmount ?
[14:55] <leftyfb> nbusrone: run fsck on it, repartition/reformat it. If it's still giving I/o errors, it's a bad drive. Throw it away and get a new one
[14:57] <nbusrone> leftyfb : which fsck commend to fix ? not very sure the command
[14:57] <gyro412> ogra, i tried using an X session on the Ubuntu (server) side but not on the pi. The pi is Sway and has no issues connecting to my other machines.
[14:57] <leftyfb> https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tecmint.com/fsck-repair-file-system-errors-in-linux/amp/
[15:27] <hackerman> Hi. I installed a newer version of libseccomp via dpkg in an attempt to fix an issue on my system but as it didn't resolve it, would like to remove it. I still have libseccomp2 installed via aptitude, but when I attempt to remove the deb install via dpkg --remove libseccomp2, it won't let me due to dependencies. Is there a way to remove the dpkg
[15:27] <hackerman> version since the apt version is still installed?
[15:28] <leftyfb> hackerman: which release of ubuntu?
[15:28] <kostkon> !info libseccomp2
[15:28] <hackerman> 20.04 currently
[15:28] <hackerman> ubunt userver
[15:29] <Jeremy31> hackerman: If installed manually using a deb file, you could double click on the file and see if the software tool will allow you to remove
[15:29] <leftyfb> hackerman: sudo apt install libseccomp2=2.5.1-1ubuntu1 --reinstall
[15:30] <hackerman> leftyfb E: Version '2.5.1-1ubuntu1' for 'libseccomp2' was not found
[15:30] <ioria> =2.5.1-1ubuntu1~20.04.2
[15:30] <leftyfb> oh, needs the full thing. Not something I do very often :)
[15:31] <hackerman> Looks like that did it - dpkg -l now shows only 2.5.1. Thanks!
[15:32] <leftyfb> hackerman: this is why we recommend sticking with only official ubuntu packages from your running release of ubuntu
[15:33] <hackerman> agreed. 2.5.4 is in 22.04 but haven't upgraded yet. Will stick to os releases moving forward. I think this was an edge case with a specific docker container that required >= 2.5.3
[15:47] <urk> How do I backup folders at the command line?  This morning I ran an update, and it toasted my system.  The update was suspicious since it offered to update 64 packages.
[15:48] <oxfuxxx> tar -cvf backup.tar /path/to/folders
[15:49] <leftyfb> urk: there is no built-in manner to revert a system. You can use rsync to backup your personal files to an separate storage device
[15:49] <leftyfb> urk: what version of ubuntu are you running and what packages were updated and what errors were there? How was your system "toasted"?
[15:50] <jhutchins> !backup
[15:52] <urk> leftyfb:  I don't recall, but it is the most current.
[15:52] <smallville7123> o.o yay https://github.com/DesktopECHO/kWSL works
[15:54] <leftyfb> urk: ok, it seems like you have no interest in fixing it. Use rsync to copy your files to a new storage device and install fresh. Good luck
[15:54] <urk> Oxfuxxx:   Thanks.  I'm trying to get to the command line at bootup.
[15:56] <leftyfb> urk: use a live usb
[15:58] <urk> leftyfb:   I do have an interest in fixing it.  I need to first get to the command line so that I can back up the files, and then will revisit the issue of repair.  Condition is pretty bad so don't know if it can be repaired.
[15:59] <jhutchins> I don't seem to have seen much mention of LVM snapshots as a way to protect against bad upgrades lately.  I've only worked with VMWare snapshots, which are great for that.  Do LVM snapshots work?
[15:59] <ravage> urk, you can mount and fix the system from the live usb too
[16:00] <jhutchins> urk: Vague generalities do not lend themselves to solutions, you'll do better if you can ask specific questions about specific functions.
[16:01] <CSWookie> I want to install tzdata from a script, but it asks a couple of questions about location.  Is there a way to supply them from the command prompt?
[16:02] <CSWookie> More specifically, I want to install it as part of a Dockerfile based on ubuntu:20.04.
[16:04] <kostkon> CSWookie, those 2 envs in your dockerfile: ENV DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive ENV TZ=<your timezone>, then RUN ln -snf /usr/share/zoneinfo/$TZ /etc/localtime \ && echo $TZ > /etc/timezone
[16:05] <CSWookie> Will that make it so that I don't need to install tzdata, or will that make it so my install proceeds without asking?
[16:06] <kostkon> CSWookie, you won't need to install it afaik
[16:06] <ogra> CSWookie, you normally need to pre-seed the debconf prompts if the packge does not actually allow env variables to override them ...
[16:07] <CSWookie> Thanks @kostikon ogra what does pre-seed.
[16:07] <ogra> (not sure what tzdata requires here ... "sudo debconf-show tzdata" shows the currently set data)
[16:07] <ogra> https://wiki.debian.org/PackageManagement/Preseed
[16:07] <CSWookie> Thank you.
[16:09] <ogra> note that if you can use env vars, this is usually easier ... but some prompts require actualy pre-seed values
[16:09] <kostkon> CSWookie, that '\' in ' \ &&' is not supposed to be there, fyi, just happens that that cmd is spread into 2 lines in my Dockerfile
[16:09] <noarb> does ubuntu have some sort of apt cache enabled by default? what is the benefit of using something like Apt-Cacher NG ?
[16:10] <ogra> a package proxy like apt-cacher saves you from re-downloading if you i.e. do package builds in chroots or containers or have many ubuntu machines in a network
[16:11] <noarb> is it just more fully featured than apt-cache? Doesn't a fresh install have some caching enabled by default?
[16:12] <ravage> noarb, a local installation usually downloads a package once. there is no need or any caches
[16:12] <ogra> no idea which one is more featueful ... i tend to use the packageproxy snap (which is based on approx) ...
[16:12] <ravage> *for
[16:16] <nbusrone> leftyfb :  how to force usb flash drive not to automatically un mount ?
[16:19] <Joel> Trying to upgrade 20.04 to 22.04, thoughts on what this trying to tell me? https://gist.github.com/jjshoe/c9f5c03e9533bfb7bceac757cfb36a80
[16:22] <ogra> Joel, i'd guess you have some third party repo eabled and installed docker from there which made a mess
[16:23] <ogra> try "sudo apt -f install"
[16:23] <ogra> that should remove the wrong packages or try to resolve the mess if it can
[16:30] <Joel> ogra will give it a shot, thanks
[16:36] <qqz> Hi, I wanted to update my gpg key at launchpad
[16:36] <qqz> following the instructions I did at first upload it to hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com
[16:37] <qqz> then I registered the fingerprint at launchpad and got an encrypted email
[16:37] <qqz> I have decrypted that email with my key which did work fine
[16:37] <ogra> qqz, there is #launchpad for launchpad support ....
[16:37] <qqz> the key fingerprint in the decrypted message was correct and so I opened the url referenced in the decrypted message
[16:38] <qqz> ahh, ok
[16:42] <Joel> hrumph, I'm certain I've made a mess, haha.
[17:12] <Joel> Hrm, now it's complaining I don't have enough free space in /boot, but I for sure only have a single kernel installed, 22mb short. What a pain.
[17:12] <Joel> https://gist.github.com/jjshoe/3259e34c33e8fe79a5cd6b23108dad4a
[17:13] <Joel> if anyone has tips on how to save more space, lmk :\
[17:13] <ravage> that already looks pretty minimal
[17:13] <ravage> did you create that boot partition yourself?
[17:13] <ravage> i dont think Ubuntu uses one at all on a default install
[17:15] <ravage> i would try to resize that partition with a gparted livecd if possible
[17:15] <ravage> you will always have trouble with any new kernel updates
[17:15] <Joel> I did not create it myself.
[17:16] <ravage> what filesystem is / ?
[17:16] <ravage> is the system encrypted?
[17:17] <Joel> the system is encrypted
[17:17] <ravage> ok that explains that there is a boot partition
[17:18] <Joel> I'm reading I can try setting MODULES=most to MODULES=dep in /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf
[17:19] <ravage> that will take up even more space than dep
[17:19] <Joel> ?
[17:19] <ogra> do-release-upgrade will make sure your currently running kernel sticks around, so you can always go back to that one
[17:20] <ravage> he cant go back to anything if he cant start the upgrade ogra :)
[17:20] <ogra> and yes, Modules=dep is a way to slim down the initrd
[17:21] <ravage> getting more space in /boot needs messing with your LVM i think
[17:21] <ravage> i would not touch that without a full backup. and with a full backup you can just do a fresh install
[17:21] <Joel> ogra yeah, trimmed 40mb, should be able to update.
[17:21] <ravage> isnt dep the default?
[17:21] <ogra> nope
[17:21] <ogra> most ...
[17:21] <ravage> ok
[17:21] <ravage> why? :D
[17:22] <ogra> for the biggest compatibility
[17:22] <Joel> ogra thanks again for all your help on the way here
[17:22] <ravage> mkay
[17:22] <ogra> i.e. you can always just replace HW or add a controller or some such withut having to re-build the initrd
[17:22] <ravage> ok. http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man5/initramfs.conf.5.html
[17:22] <ravage> if i could read i knew it :)
[17:22] <Joel> I didn't change the compression option to xz yet, either, so could probably save a little bit more, but figured I'd start with MODULES=dep
[17:22] <ogra> (or stick your disk into a completely different machine)
[17:23] <ravage> my bpool is about 2GB. should be be plenty :)
[17:23] <ogra> dep pretty much tiest it to exactly the HW you run on
[17:23] <ogra> *ties
[17:24] <Joel> ogra good to know. post update I could always switch it back. Might not hurt for me to look into shrinking/growing partitions on an encrypted drive. I had assumed the sizing had something to do with grub requirements
[17:25] <Joel> Though, I won't ever move the hard drive, honestly.
[17:26] <Joel> I'm far more likely to buy a new hd, and mount existing at another mount point, and copy stuff over.
[17:26] <ravage> buy a SSD :)
[17:45] <freakyy85> does ubuntu have any php version below 8.1?
[17:45] <freakyy85> jammy
[17:45] <ravage> no
[17:46] <freakyy85> that sucks, nextcloud doesnt support php8.1
[17:46] <freakyy85> ;)
[17:46] <ravage> there are PPAs. but thats not supported here then
[17:46] <ogra> sudo snap install nextcloud ...
[17:47] <freakyy85> ok thanks all
[17:47] <ogra> (maintained *by* nextcloud themselves)
[17:48] <freakyy85> ogra i already tried installing but im using caddy
[17:48] <freakyy85> and not apache
[17:48] <ogra> ah, well, yeah, with the snap you have to use whats bundled indeed
[17:48] <ravage> freakyy85, the most (and only?) PPA for that is https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php
[17:49] <gordonjcp> freakyy85: it doesn't matter what Ubuntu has
[17:49] <ogra> you could still use caddy as a frontend server/reverse proxy though
[17:49] <gordonjcp> freakyy85: it's insane to run it on your machine directly, just run it in a docker container
[17:49] <freakyy85> gordon: caddy? or nextcloud?
[17:49] <gordonjcp> freakyy85: both
[17:49] <ravage> why is it insane? i nextcloud on LXC and it works just fine
[17:50] <freakyy85> why? caddy is a webserver
[17:50] <ravage> i find docker more insane
[17:50] <gordonjcp> ravage: well, lxc is still a container
[17:50] <ogra> if you go container, go the full path and use snaps 😉
[17:51] <ogra> (though indeed not if you cant live with the bundled webserver 😄  )
[17:59] <urk> I'm trying to unpack the contents of a tar file on a memory stick, but it isn't unpacking after running tar -xvf file-name.tar.  Also the file-name.tar is red.  Is that normal?
[18:00] <ogra> red means it ihas been marked executable ... (probably wrongly) ... yu can just ignore that
[18:03] <urk> ogra:  How come the file won't unpack?
[18:06] <enigma9o7[m]> What happens when you try?
[18:07] <gordonjcp> urk: maybe it's not a tar file
[18:07] <urk> enigma8o7[m]: nothing at all
[18:08] <urk> It's a tar file.
[18:08] <gordonjcp> are you sure
[18:08] <Jeremy31> urk: >  file filename.tar.gz
[18:08] <urk> The file name is backup.tar
[18:08] <gordonjcp> urk: that doesn't mean it's a tar file
[18:08] <Jeremy31> file backup.tar
[18:09]  * filename urk: > Jeremy31
[18:09] <goddard> is something wrong with the ubuntu iso?
[18:09] <enigma9o7[m]> Nothing, just returns the prompt?
[18:09] <enigma9o7[m]> `tar xf backup.tar`
[18:09] <Jeremy31> goddard: I just did an install earlier
[18:10] <ravage> goddard, the answer is probably no. and there is more than one Ubuntu ISO
[18:10] <goddard> ill try with safe graphics because it just gets stuck and never loads
[18:10] <urk> File name is v
[18:10] <urk> Backup.tar
[18:11] <Jeremy31> Can you check the properties of it in file manager?
[18:12] <urk> I created it when copying the documents, and picture folders to a usb
[18:13] <urk> I have no window manager, and only access to the command line.  Nothing works after the last update.
[18:14] <gordonjcp> urk: what is the output of "file backup.tar"?
[18:23] <phr34k> Can anybody lend me a hand. I just did a version upgrade from 16 to 20.04, seem pretty fine for the most part, but somehow it knocked cloud-init, and it doesn't configure the network properly.
[18:24] <phr34k> I'm just not sure what I can do about it, I'm not that savvy with linux yet, can anybody steer me in the right direction?
[18:26] <alkisg> phr34k: are you talking about cloud-init or about netplan?
[18:28] <phr34k> well it's a ubuntu hosted at digital ocean, cloud-init overwrites the netplan config files, but every time i reboot it basically whipes out the ipv4 address configuration it's supposed to have.
[18:29] <phr34k> I basically got a line like this "Getting data from <class 'cloudinit.sources.DataSourceDigitalOcean.DataSourceDigitalOcean'> failed" somewhere in the cloud init log, I'm not really sure what that's all about though
[19:17] <goddard> any way to manually get my firefox data to the snap or flatpak?
[19:17] <goddard> i tried copy and pasting .mozilla folder but it never works
[19:18] <urk> leftyfb:  I would like to see if I can repair my system, but don't have a clue as to where to begin.   I'm in Live CD, but using the Debian district which doesn't work very well on this co.puter.
[19:20] <urk> I'm using the gpt partition scheme, and it lookske gpt3 is where the corrupted fe system resides.
[19:26] <Joel> update mostly went well, so far only chromium not working, but no shock there
[19:33] <jilocasin> afternoon everyone
[19:34] <Joel> Do snaps still leverage ~/.config for app level storage, or is it something else more complicated now?
[19:34] <jilocasin> does anyone know of a linux command (not shell construct) that can tell if a path resolves to a file or a directory? thanks.
[19:35] <Joel> jilocasin file
[19:36] <alkisg> jilocasin: and `test -f`, `test -d` aren't suitable for your use case?
[19:36] <jilocasin> alkisg: no
[19:37] <alkisg> ...because?
[19:37] <alkisg> They are executables
[19:37] <alkisg> ls /usr/bin/test ....
[19:38] <jilocasin> I need to find a bunch of files.  locate can't tell the difference between files and directories.  Users have named many folders that same as the file I am looking for.  Therefore I need a command that I can pipe the output of locate into and filter out anything that's a directory.
[19:38] <ogra> use find ?
[19:38] <jilocasin> ogra:I started this morning, and it's *still* running.
[19:40] <ioria> jilocasin, stat /path/to/*   is a good command, but idk if it's suitable for your use case
[19:40] <alkisg> locate ... | while read -r f; test -f "$f" && echo "$f"; done
[19:41] <alkisg> I've no idea why you don't like shell constructs, they fit exactly what you described
[19:44] <jilocasin> alkisg: because when I try somerthing like your example, I get errors like this:  -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `done'
[19:44] <ioria> alkisg, you missed a 'do'
[19:44] <Pdq> Happy to report that I was able to fix my system completely, and everything works fine now.  Apparently a full upgrade didn't complete itself properly, but now is working.
[19:45] <Pdq> I didn't have to reinstall.  Thank goodness.
[19:45] <alkisg> jilocasin: what ioria said
[19:45] <alkisg> locate ... | while read -r f; do test -f "$f" && echo "$f"; done
[19:45] <alkisg> Or -d to print directories
[19:46] <jilocasin> alkisg: did it an it runs without returning anything
[19:47] <alkisg> Paste two lines of sample output
[19:47] <alkisg> (of your locate command)
[19:48] <alkisg> E.g. this one prints all files that contain "share", but not the directory /usr/share:    locate share | while read -r f; do test -f "$f" && echo "$f"; done
[19:49] <ioria> jilocasin, or   locate <filename> | xargs ls -dl | grep -v ^d
[19:50] <ioria> jilocasin, if you really want to use 'locate'
[19:52] <jilocasin> ioria: no, but my only other option is find, and it's taking *hours* to search.
[19:58] <jilocasin> my locate command is: sudo locate -e -b -r ^foo$
[19:59] <ioria> nope, it does find directories too
[19:59] <ioria> you said no directories
[20:02] <ctnxbq> for find to be slow you'd need to have 100500 billion files in your system
[20:02] <jilocasin> ctnxbq: close
[20:02] <ioria> yep, suspicious
[20:02] <jilocasin> ioria: there isn't a locate option (that I know of) that will only return files.
[20:03] <ioria> jilocasin, nope, but can build it :    locate <filename> | xargs ls -dl | grep -v ^d
[20:03] <jilocasin> ioria: tried it, fails becasue each part needs to be run as sudo
[20:04] <ioria> jilocasin, nope
[20:05] <Guest32> I bricked a chromebook trying to install ubuntu (via usb). I now have a new chromebook (11e chromebook thinkpad). is this computer compatible with ubuntu?
[20:05] <ioria> jilocasin, you 're doing something really wrong there
[20:06] <jilocasin> ioria: I just tried it, I set the first part as sudo, as I have to, and then the second complains that I don't have permissions to ls -dl, and if I try to xarg sudo -s " " then it complains that there's no ls-dl |grep command
[20:06] <ctnxbq> just thinking, find needs to go recursively over directories. Will then the timestamp for directories updated too (i.e. each read causes write) if noatime is not set for a partition?
[20:06] <ioria> jilocasin, it's not ls-dl but ls -dl   (there is a space)
[20:07] <ioria> jilocasin, btw, good luck
[20:08] <jilocasin> ioria: yes I know that (see the first part of my comment) the second part was just a type on my end.
[20:08] <jilocasin> thanks and take care
[20:08] <Joel> Ugh, One other broken thing, ddccontrol no longer works for switching monitors *sob* most painful thing to have go in my upgrade. grrr.
[20:27] <TrippyJ> Aloha! Does there exist something I can install that provides some good, basic diagnostics for my VPS that I can access via web? CPU, disk, RAM, stuff like that - ideally, I'd like to be able to serve it from my current web server, but that isn't a strict requirement
[20:28] <freakyy85> Oh yes thatd be smth interesting
[20:29] <TrippyJ> I seen a java solution the produced a jar, but ... eh. I'd like the information to go to a database or something
[20:29] <leftyfb> TrippyJ: https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/kibana/current/metrics.html
[20:29] <freakyy85> Webinterface with cool graphics
[20:30] <freakyy85> Systemstats
[20:31] <TrippyJ> Yeah like uhh
[20:31] <TrippyJ> htop
[20:31] <TrippyJ> hmm I wonder if I can just grab the information from that for web, actually
[20:31] <leftyfb> TrippyJ: I gave you a link
[20:31] <TrippyJ> I am reading that one also, but having trouble understanding it
[20:32] <leftyfb> TrippyJ: regardless, #ubuntu-offtopic would be more appropriate for software opinions. This is a support channel
[20:34] <jhutchins> TrippyJ: Not quite what you asked for, but you might look at Nagios, Icinga, and CheckMK.  They're meant for remote monitoring of more than one server, but they do the job.
[20:35] <leftyfb> TrippyJ: what you're looking for will not be as simple as "sudo apt install magic-application"
[20:36] <TrippyJ> Indeed, but I am pretty sure it is just a couple lines of code actually, now, for the basics that I wanted. I am checking out some of the stuff jhutchins mentioned, but I don't think the Kibana Metrics applies to my use case
[20:37] <leftyfb> it 100% does and will do a better job of it than any of the ones jhutchins suggestion. Those are more meant for a NOC to monitor and respond to issues. I sounds like you're looking for pretty historical graphs
[20:38] <leftyfb> while nagios/icinga/checkmk can do graphs, they are neither pretty nor "a couple lines of code" to get working
[20:38] <leftyfb> because that isn't what they are meant for
[20:39] <freakyy85> Hm
[20:41] <jhutchins> I would say CheckMK qualifies as pretty (for some values of pretty).
[21:16] <de-facto> hmm sometimes the hot corner or the exposee feature is "stuck" on gnome 42
[21:17] <de-facto> repeatedly pressing super key brings it back to some deterministic state
[21:17] <de-facto> sometimes i cant even choose windows in the exposee view via mouse
[21:17] <leftyfb> !bug | de-facto
[21:18] <de-facto> no idea about details such as package or bug, just an observation
[21:20] <leftyfb> de-facto: start with the "gnome-shell" package
[21:21] <de-facto> i cant even reliably reproduce it yet, i just observe it sometimes
[21:21] <de-facto> did not understand what leads to that state yet
[21:21] <leftyfb> de-facto: that's fine, just report the bug
[21:21] <leftyfb> report what you know
[21:25] <imi> how do I change between icon themes? I want the default high contrast black and white back
[21:27] <leftyfb> imi: install gnome-tweaks
[21:43] <enigma9o7[m]> imi: with gnome, right?
[21:47] <enigma9o7[m]> assuming yes, then open gnome tweaks, go to apperance tab, and click the little down arrow next to icons, and chose highcontrast
[22:48] <goddard> many flatpak apps can run
[22:48] <goddard>  (gnome-extensions-app:3): Gtk-WARNING **: 18:46:54.346: cannot open display:
[22:48] <goddard> says this
[22:49] <leftyfb> goddard: flatpak isn't officially supported on ubuntu
[23:01] <imi> how do I change between icon themes? I want the default high contrast black and white back (wayland most probably)
[23:01] <leftyfb> imi: you've been answered twice
[23:02] <imi> ok thanks
[23:05] <imi> that changes the window appearance I mean the icons on the left
[23:12] <goddard> / #flatpak
[23:13] <enigma9o7[m]> imi, i already answered you.  did it not work as I described?
[23:40] <kjazhedera> hola!
[23:44] <wez> G'day.