[08:19] <yurtesen> good morning
[08:20] <Patrick14159> hello
[08:20] <yurtesen> utkarsh2102: what will happen next?
[08:20] <Patrick14159> i am curious aswell
[09:24] <utkarsh2102> yurtesen: hey, I'm not sure, can you write to ubuntu-devel-discuss? 
[09:24] <utkarsh2102> about the whole issue 
[09:25] <utkarsh2102> or maybe gimme time till Thursday, I'll write and send one 
[09:26] <utkarsh2102> I'm not gonna be around today 
[10:22] <rbasak> lvoytek: sorry I only noticed your Salsa MRs for MySQL yesterday. Merged now. I also filed https://salsa.debian.org/mariadb-team/mysql/-/merge_requests/56 for your review please.
[12:30] <athos> good morning :)
[12:48] <yurtesen> utkarsh2102: I don't mind writing one, but maybe you can be more persuasive?
[14:14] <lvoytek> rbasak: Thanks for the review, I'll get started on moving debian to 8.0.29. The mp you sent me looks good, I don't have approve access though
[18:39] <sdeziel> athos: kudo for your detective work on LP: #1882279 !
[18:43] <sarnold> nice :)
[18:47] <athos> sdeziel: thx :)
[18:47] <mdeslaur> oh yeah, nice!
[18:51] <sarnold> athos: another potential solution https://lwn.net/Articles/691932/
[18:55] <athos> sarnold: Nice! thank you!! :)
[20:38] <patdk-lap> oh my, that is something I'm going have to backport also, lots of fun
[21:06] <blackboxsw> Hey folks, cloud-init is looking to drop emit_upstart support  from our next upstream release because we no longer provide full upstream releases to Xenial 16.04. As far as I recall, 16.04 (xenial) was the last series which provided the ability to prefer upstart over the Ubuntu's default of systemd. Are there any other linux distributions that may still rely on upstart that folks are aware of?
[21:06]  * ahasenack isn't aware
[21:08] <blackboxsw> From poking around it looks like RHEL6 and old rawhide versions..... or Google's Chrome  OS. None of which are compatible with latest cloud-init anyway
[21:08] <blackboxsw> due to py2 py3 support being unavailable in tip of main.
[21:09] <sarnold> rhel/centos/etc was all I knew, I don't know which exact versions that was, but '6' was in my mind even before reading your next line :) https://endoflife.software/operating-systems/linux/centos  suggests that ended a few years ago
[21:13] <ahasenack> rhel had upstart?
[21:14] <blackboxsw> +1 didn't want to unintentionally break anyone beyond ubuntu but figured generally we are way beyond ongoing support of upstart for most Linux-based distros. Will send it generally to cloud-init's mailinglist as well just to confirm.
[21:14] <blackboxsw> ahasenack: I think only for a short while as systemd was being developed. https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/6/html/migration_planning_guide/sect-networking-upstart
[21:14] <ahasenack> I had no idea anybody else ever adopted upstart
[21:14] <ahasenack> specially non-deb distros
[21:47] <patdk-lap> all my use of rhel6 for a customer and never remember using it on rhel6