[05:09] <noaXess> hey and good morning...
 And also ksystemlog can help you too (re @IrcsomeBot: <user|84> i have a problem... when I go to sleep mode, my pc crashes, delete the session and goes to login screen.... how can I find which service crashed?)
 Is there any similar software like ufw? I think my network is blocked form a firewall, but I am sure it’s not ufw. So maybe similar software?
 I have ufw active but not sure that it was installed automatically and by default. There is a way to know which packages are installed manually, please help to find out how. Another way is to boot on your live medium and find find the firewall used (is inactive on live medias) (re @impartial_just: Is there any similar software like ufw? I think my network is blocked form a firewall, but I am sure it’s not ufw. So maybe similar so
 I have ufw active but not sure that it was installed automatically and by default. There is a way to know which packages are installed manually, please help to find out how. Another way is to boot on your live medium and find find the firewall used (is inactive on live medias). You can also use "firewalld" for example (re @impartial_just: Is there any similar software like ufw? I think my network is blocked form a firewall, but I a
 Maybe I can try sudo apt search firewall but this will not include the firewall that is not named to firewall. Is there a better way to shows how my package are filtered by firewall? (re @Technopat_Official: I have ufw active but not sure that it was installed automatically and by default. There is a way to know which packages are installed manually, please help to find out how. Another way is to boot on your live medium and find find 
 Plasma Settings do the job very well 😉 (re @impartial_just: Maybe I can try sudo apt search firewall but this will not include the firewall that is not named to firewall. Is there a better way to shows how my package are filtered by firewall?)
 But I think plasma setting only control the ufw. If there is another firewall like opensnitch, that does not appear in plasma settigg no (re @Technopat_Official: Plasma Settings do the job very well 😉)
 But I think plasma setting only control the ufw. If there is another firewall like opensnitch, that does not appear in plasma setting (re @Technopat_Official: Plasma Settings do the job very well 😉)
 it woks fine with firewalld, and it is Fedora's workstation default (so high-level) (re @impartial_just: But I think plasma setting only control the ufw. If there is another firewall like opensnitch, that does not appear in plasma setting)
 it works fine with firewalld, and it is Fedora's workstation default (so high-level) (re @impartial_just: But I think plasma setting only control the ufw. If there is another firewall like opensnitch, that does not appear in plasma setting)
 Hello, KDE has a nice onscreen keyboard on the login screen. I have a convertible device (GPD Pocket 3) and would like to use this keyboard for e.g. wesurfing etc., but I cannot seem to find how to enable it. I am on Kubuntu 22.04.
 Hello, KDE has a nice onscreen keyboard on the login screen. I have a convertible device (GPD Pocket 3) and would like to use this keyboard for e.g. websurfing etc., but I cannot seem to find how to enable it. I am on Kubuntu 22.04.
 Hi, I tried upgrading from 21.10 to 22.04 using update-manager -c but the process is stuck on this screen. : https://irc-attachments.kde.org/24b8aa8a/file_55677.jpg
 Hi, I tried upgrading from 21.10 to 22.04 using update-manager -c but the process is stuck on this screen after I clicked on the Upgrade button. : https://irc-attachments.kde.org/24b8aa8a/file_55677.jpg
[11:26] <little_> Hey there, I just installed Kubuntu 22.02 LTS yesterday and booted just now and seem to have somewhat of a serious problem and am not sure how to solve it.
[11:27] <little_> I've got all my shortcuts to programs in the panel as widgets and all of them want to open with Kate and when I click them, they briefly present a WSL View icon in the task manager, but don't open.
[11:27] <little_> I can open programs from the K menu, but the panel is, at this point, useless.
[11:28] <little_> Removing a shortcut from the panel and adding it again from the menu doesn't change anything.
[11:28] <little_> Rebooting doesn't change anything.
[11:29] <little_> Editing the properties of a shortcut on the panel and adding that program into the Open With list doesn't change anything.
[11:30] <little_> Editing the properties of a shortcut on the panel and removing all the programs in the Open With list empties the list, but doesn't change the behavior.
[11:30] <little_> Any help would be appreciated.
 perhaps you have to uncheck custom PPAs manually. Are you up-to-date ? (re @abhishekbatra: )
 I also have same question (re @Niggolas: Hello, KDE has a nice onscreen keyboard on the login screen. I have a convertible device (GPD Pocket 3) and would like to use this keyboard for e.g. websurfing etc., but I cannot seem to find how to enable it. I am on Kubuntu 22.04.)
[11:50] <little_> I just installed yesterday and have no PPAs.
[11:50] <little_> I updated when I booted and then I went to open some programs and discovered this issue.
 PPAs unchecked + fully updated (re @Technopat_Official: perhaps you have to uncheck custom PPAs manually. Are you up-to-date ?)
[11:54] <little_> Where would I go to see if PPAs are unchecked?
[11:54] <little_> Yes. I updated moments before this happened.
[11:55] <little_> I I click the updates icon in the tray, it checks and says I'm up-to-date.
[11:59] <little_> In the update settings, the items with check-marks in the boxes are: lvfs - Linux Vendor Firmware Service, Snap, Jammy (main restricted), Jammy updates (main restricted), Jammy (universe), Jammy ipdates (universe), Jammy (multiverse), Jammy updates (multiverse), Jammy backports (main restricted universe multiverse), Jammy security (main restricted), Jammy security (universe), Jammy security (multiverse).
[12:02] <little_> By the way, thank you for the help and suggestions.
[12:07] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:08] <skramer> Hi
[12:08] <little_> Hey there.
[12:09] <little_> I've also tried adding another panel, but that suffers the same problem.
[12:09] <little_> The only software I've installed has been from the repositories and I didn't add any PPAs or do anything creative.
[12:12] <little_> Any program I open from the K Menu seems to be behaving normally and I'm very grateful that the K Menu is still working, but having the entire panel not working is very disconcerting and it worries me about what may have gone wrong.
[12:18] <little_> This seems to be a file-association issue.
[12:37] <little_> Hey there. I installed Kubuntu 22.02 LTS yesterday, installed several ordinary programs from the Ubuntu repositories (no PPAs or anything else creative). I then booted the computer a little while ago, grabbed all the updates that were offered by Discover, and tried to run some of my programs by clicking on the shortcuts I had put onto the panel (as widgets). Note that all of those shortcuts worked fine last night when I installed
[12:37] <little_> Kubuntu 22.04 LTS. Every shortcut that I click in the panel causes a WSL View icon to be momentarily shown in the task manager portion of the panel and then nothing else happens (the program in question does not open). Right-clicking any of the shortcuts shows that each of their Open With setting is for Kate. Changing that setting for one shortcut changes it for all shortcuts on the panel. Removing items from the Open With list from one
[12:37] <little_> removes it from all of the other shortcuts on the panel. The K Menu is behaving normally and I can open programs from there. When I open them, they're displayed normally in the task manager on the panel icon. Removing the shortcuts from the panel and putting them back (by browsing to them in the K Menu and clicking the "Add to Panel (widget)" option in the menu recreates the shortcut, but it suffers from the same misbehavior. Rebooting
[12:37] <little_> doesn't change anything. Last, but not least, I didn't install any program called WSL View and that's not what the Open With is associated with. I'm baffled by this and any help would be appreciated.
[12:46] <little_> Would there be any danger in clearing the cache and rebooting the computer or killing and restarting the Plasma shell with the commands recommended in this Reddit post? https://www.reddit.com/r/openSUSE/comments/8vhj0g/corrupted_icons_in_panel_and_menu/
[13:04] <DubGuy22> Hello everyone
[13:06] <little_> I now tried renaming the .cache directory to .cache.old and restarting and that didn't solve the issue. I also tried killing and restarting plasmashell and that didn't solve the issue. Any other suggestions would be welcome.
[13:10] <BluesKaj> little_, is this on a VM ?
[13:11] <little_> No. It's my desktop.
[13:12] <little_> I installed Kubuntu 22.04 LTS last night. I installed several programs from the repository (no PPAs or anything). This morning when I booted up, I grabbed the updates that Discover listed for me and tried to open some of my programs from the panel shortcuts and found that I have this problem. Everything wants to try to open with
[13:12] <BluesKaj> that doesn't explain WSL view, which makes no sense
[13:13] <little_> WSL View and all of the shortcut Open With associations were with Kate.
[13:13] <little_> Changing any of those associations for one shortcut changed it for all of them [sigh].
[13:13] <little_> Removing them removed them from all [even bigger sigh].
[13:13] <little_> Renaming the .cache directory and killing and restarting plasmashell didn't help.
[13:13] <little_> I never installed this WSL View and it doesn't even exist in Muon.
[13:14] <little_> The closest thing I can find to it is something called wslu in Muon and that IS installed, but I didn't install it. Can I get rid of that and will it solve this?
[13:14] <little_> There is no Windows 10 on this system.
[13:15] <little_> And I have no games or gaming software installed other than anything Kubuntu put on there by default.
[13:17] <BluesKaj> little_, remove wslu...I don't have it installed by default or otherwise, it should be safe to remove
[13:17] <little_> Okay, I'm happy to. Hopefully this will do it.
[13:18] <little_> That did it! YOU'RE MY HERO!!!!!
[13:18] <BluesKaj> hehe
[13:18]  * little_ hugs BluesKaj
[13:18] <little_> OMG, this was baffling.
[13:19] <BluesKaj> wonder why it was installed in the first place
[13:19] <little_> Interestingly, when I went to purge it, it said it was also removing gimp-help-en, so I think Gimp installed it.
[13:19] <little_> Why would it do that?
[13:19] <BluesKaj> no idea
[13:20] <BluesKaj> gimp is a cross platform app so....
[13:21] <little_> Well, this little hiccup aside, you're my hero either way, BluesKaj. I had just recently installed Kubuntu 20.04 because it's an LTS and I didn't realize there was already a new one, but you said there was and I checked, so I grabbed it. I can finally have a cutting-edge system instead of limping along on an old one the way I usually do.
[13:21] <little_> Well, I'm putting wslu on my blacklist forever. Heh.
[13:22] <little_> This is Elliria, by the way (just haven't set up Konversation yet). I had asked you about Inkscape using python2:any the other day.
[13:23] <BluesKaj> ok, now I recall
[13:24] <little_> I was gobsmacked that they came out with another LTS so soon. Also, I'm loving what they did to my graphics. I don't know what kind of magic they did, but the colors in this release are fantastic.
[13:26] <BluesKaj> I had a problem with 22.04 installation on my old HP bedroom pc so I installed 20.04 LTS then upgraded that to 22.04 with sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[13:27] <BluesKaj> and 22.04LTS works fine on the old HP now
[13:27] <little_> Yeah, I remember you had suggested that, but I opted to go for a full installation. Interestingly, I had the opposite problem. I had an issue with the 20.04 installation, but from beginning to end, my 22.04 installation took 14 minutes with no issues.
[13:27] <BluesKaj> cool :-)
[13:27] <little_> That's good to know, I'm thinking about putting another copy of Kubuntu onto my old work laptop so I can use that exclusively for banking.
[13:28] <little_> That will be the next project.
[13:28] <BluesKaj> well this old HP is 2008 vintage, upgraded HW with a ssd and 8GB Ram
[13:30] <little_> I'll note that. I don't remember what the specs are for my laptop, but I suppose it's possible it isn't strong enough for a modern operating system. It came with Windows 8 on it, if that gives you any indication of whether it could handle modern software.
[13:30] <BluesKaj> little_, I recommend using a VPN for a banking machine, it's worth 50 bucks/yr for safety
[13:30] <little_> So you tunnel into your bank?
[13:31] <BluesKaj> yup
[13:31] <little_> Interesting. I'll have to check on that.
[13:31] <BluesKaj> using wireguard protocol
[13:32] <little_> Thanks. I'll look into that as well.
[13:32] <little_> By the way, should I file a bug report with wslu to let them know it hijacked all my panel shortcuts or would that be expected behavior if you wanted to actually use wslu properly?
[13:35] <BluesKaj> that's your call, but i think filing a bug would be agood idea, alot of ppl use gimp
[13:35] <little_> Okay, will do. Thank you so much, once again, for your help. You're a true treasure.
[13:37] <BluesKaj> heh, you were observant enough to see the gimp connection , that was a good clue
[13:39] <little_> True. We make a good team, then. Heh.
[13:42] <BluesKaj> I'm using PIA VPN, it's up to date and easily installed on Linux and can be used with 10 devices at $40 US/yr
[13:43] <BluesKaj> it has a nice GUI and no mucking about with networking commands in the terminal and aliases etc
[13:44] <little_> Oh, cool. I added that to the notes I made so I can check whether this would work with my bank.
[13:45] <BluesKaj> I'm in Ontario/Canada and it works with my bank np, even use it on my phone
[13:46] <little_> Good to know, although I won't need it to work on the phone.
[13:47] <BluesKaj> I don't do much real banking on the phone but it helps to have that encryption and layer of safety just the same
[13:50] <little_> Yeah. My bank has occasionally suggested that I could use my phone (like to scan in a check or something) and assured me that it's safe and they back me up on it so that if anything went wrong, they'd take care of it. It all still makes me a bit nervous. I do like banking on my computer, though, as opposed to physically going in.
[13:51] <little_> I hadn't been using a VPN the way you do, but I've always put the browser into troubleshoot mode so that it's totally restricted and hasn't got anything like add-ons running on it.
[13:51] <BluesKaj> yup, same here
[13:53] <little_> Well, it's time to get on with the day. Thank you again, BluesKaj, for riding in to the rescue. Catch you again soon, I'm sure.
[16:22] <serge74> hey
 Guys, is it possible to change the width of the panel bars? I'd like to have an L shape but I don't want the top bar to appear on top of the left bar when I click on it. How can I make the top bar go always behind the left bar or make it small enough so that it won't go over the left bar?
[22:55] <mmikowski> @Diogo yes
[22:56] <mmikowski> You can make the bar smaller by right clicking on it and clicking on 'Enter edit mode'. You can then set the width in pixels.
 I can't find the way to edit with pixel precision, just dragging stuff. Same for the panel spacers which is making things hard to center
[22:58] <mmikowski> @diogo, newer version of edit mode show a pixel selector that looks something like this:
[22:59] <mmikowski> [ - ] [  96px ] [ + ]
[23:00] <mmikowski> Our kfocus.org team support Kubuntu 20.04 and 22.04. I know this is the setting on 22.04 (5.24 LTS KDE), and I'm checking on 20.04 right now.
 Oh, I'm on 20.04, how new is that version?
[23:01] <mmikowski> So first, you are right. 20.04 only allows for dragging. The only way to get per-pixel accuracy is to edit config files.
[23:01] <mmikowski> That version is 5.18.8
[23:01] <mmikowski> But if dragging does the trick, sounds like we're done here ;)
[23:03] <mmikowski> 22.04 is nicer, but we're still working through quirks on some apps and settings (although it's gotten a *lot* better over the last few weeks).  So I'd say if you're happy with 20.04, there's no need to rush into 22.04.
[23:03] <mmikowski> FWIW, zoom doesn't work on 22.04, for example, unless you know to use zoom --disable-gpu-sandbox.  Those sorts of things are still getting sorted.
[23:05] <mmikowski> So, are you set @diogo? If so, I'll get back to my code ... :)
 Thanks a lot. I'll edit the config files manually!
[23:07] <mmikowski> @diogo: Cool. Do you need guidance on that?
[23:13] <mmikowski> FWIW, the setting is "thickness" found under .plasmashellrc.  Good luck @diogo
 Ah, thanks! I was looking for a kde folder on configs
 Do you know if picom window compositor works with kde? I might want to get blurred transparency added
[23:17] <mmikowski> @diogo I think you can do that with kwin just fine
[23:19] <mmikowski> FWIW, you want edit the config file when you are logged out, using another user or a virtual terminal (ctrl-alt-f2 or similar). Otherwise, KDE may overwrite your adjustments on logout.
[23:21] <mmikowski> As for kwin, use System Settings > Workspace Behavior > Desktop Effects and then search for and enable 'blur'. Make sure the compository (under Displays > Compositor) is enable.
 Noted! (re @IrcsomeBot: <mmikowski> FWIW, you want edit the config file when you are logged out, using another user or a virtual terminal (ctrl-alt-f2 or similar). Otherwise, KDE may overwrite your adjustments on logout.)
 Couldn't find this tho (re @IrcsomeBot: <mmikowski> As for kwin, use System Settings > Workspace Behavior > Desktop Effects and then search for and enable 'blur'. Make sure the compository (under Displays > Compositor) is enable.)
 I only have general behavior under workspace behavior
[23:30] <mmikowski> @diogo, do you have backports enabled?
[23:30] <mmikowski> Desktop effects and quite a few other options should be there.
[23:30] <mmikowski> KDE is version 5.18.8
[23:30] <mmikowski> If you don't see that version, then things will likely be subtly different.
 I don't know what that means sir (re @IrcsomeBot: <mmikowski> @diogo, do you have backports enabled?)
[23:37] <mmikowski> @diogo: in a terminal:
[23:37] <mmikowski> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[23:37] <mmikowski> sudo apt-get update
[23:37] <mmikowski> sudo apt-get upgrade
 I found the blur setting, how do I get most windows to be transparent tho?
[23:42] <mmikowski> https://askubuntu.com/questions/649027/how-do-i-make-a-window-transparent-in-kde