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| esmaeelE[m] | I want to fix a bug in ubiquity but obtain source code and work on It generate this error. | 00:42 |
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| esmaeelE[m] | brz: ERROR: Not a branch: "ubuntu_bug/work/ubiquity-22.10.1/debian/patches/fa_ir.diff/". | 00:42 |
| esmaeelE[m] | * I want to fix a bug in ubiquity but obtain source code and work on It generate this error. | 00:43 |
| esmaeelE[m] | brz: ERROR: Not a branch: "ubuntu\_bug/work/ubiquity-22.10.1/debian/patches/fa\_ir.diff/". | 00:43 |
| esmaeelE[m] | I use this document: https://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/patches-to-packages.html | 00:43 |
| sarnold | the 'bzr branch' bit of those instructions isn't a useful starting point ;( | 00:44 |
| sarnold | it probably was wrong (but optimistic) when that guide was written.. | 00:44 |
| esmaeelE[m] | * I want to fix a bug in ubiquity but obtain source code and work on It generate this error.... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/b8d16cd0c2b9f129f01464a4c64c641201ce63d8) | 00:44 |
| sarnold | if you've got deb-src lines configured in your apt sources, you can use apt source ubiquity | 00:45 |
| esmaeelE[m] | sarnold: Here is the what I run: https://paste.ubuntu.ir/ynuwr | 00:46 |
| sarnold | esmaeelE[m]: ah cool, it looks like the pull-lp-source step worked | 00:47 |
| enigma9o7[m] | I started with ubuntu server then installed a desktop. Something about that setup makes it when I'm doing apt installs I get popup messagesa bout approving to restart services | 00:50 |
| enigma9o7[m] | How do I disable that, it never happened when I installed desktop ubuntu first. | 00:50 |
| enigma9o7[m] | That kinda thing. It happens all the time. | 00:51 |
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| leftyfb | I would help but they have me blocked so ... | 00:51 |
| sarnold | esmaeelE[m]: probably "needrestart and unattended operations" https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/jammy-jellyfish-release-notes/24668 | 00:52 |
| sarnold | esmaeelE[m]: sorry, that was meant for enigma9o7[m] | 00:52 |
| enigma9o7[m] | I think you just linked me to the release notes right? Or am I missing something.... | 00:55 |
| sarnold | enigma9o7[m]: yes, alas I can't link right to the needrestart section | 00:55 |
| esmaeelE[m] | <sarnold> "esmaeelE: ah cool, it looks like..." <- OK, what is branch? how can I get source with version control information in it? | 00:57 |
| sarnold | esmaeelE[m]: ignore all that bzr stuff; that never caught on | 00:57 |
| sarnold | esmaeelE[m]: there's some git repository to track a handful of the packages, but it's not the "real" source of packages. the real source of packages is the results of "pull-lp-source" or "apt source" etc | 00:58 |
| esmaeelE[m] | sarnold: Can you please guide me how can I do after getting source and fix bug in package. | 01:02 |
| esmaeelE[m] | I use `bzr add` after fix that but it generate error. | 01:02 |
| esmaeelE[m] | If you suggest to prevent bzr stuff how can I do after fix? | 01:02 |
| esmaeelE[m] | Is there any other way to patch a package in Ubuntu? | 01:02 |
| sarnold | esmaeelE[m]: ignore bzr | 01:03 |
| esmaeelE[m] | sarnold: And after that how to commit change in package? | 01:04 |
| sarnold | esmaeelE[m]: take a look at the debdiff command on https://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/fixing-a-bug.html#submitting-the-fix-and-getting-it-included | 01:05 |
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| enigma9o7[m] | @sarnold ah ok i jumped to the needrestart section and see I just gotta set an e nvironment variable. `DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive` do you have any idea where I should set this tho? .bashrc? | 01:35 |
| sarnold | enigma9o7[m]: in whatever shell you're running the apt update command in; I don't know if your user's .bashrc will carry over to the sudo environment or not.. | 01:36 |
| enigma9o7[m] | i thought it was an ubuntu server thing tho | 01:37 |
| enigma9o7[m] | Yeah thats why I asked exactly.... user bashrc not affecting sudo and other shells. is there somehwere better to set environment variables.... | 01:37 |
| sarnold | enigma9o7[m]: maybe /etc/environment? at least my /etc/pam.d/sudo looks like it'll run pam_env | 01:39 |
| enigma9o7[m] | (that affects all shells and all users) | 01:39 |
| enigma9o7[m] | ah cool | 01:40 |
| esmaeelE[m] | <sarnold> "esmaeelE: take a look at the..." <- Thanks, I use the instruction to build package. But here is the error. It can't sign | 02:02 |
| esmaeelE[m] | https://paste.ubuntu.ir/ohtrt | 02:02 |
| sarnold | esmaeelE[m]: re-run with --no-sign | 02:03 |
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| esmaeelE[m] | <sarnold> "esmaeelE: re-run with --no-sign" <- Its work. What is next step. Is it necessary to `submittodebian`? | 02:12 |
| sarnold | esmaeelE[m]: no, skip that | 02:13 |
| sarnold | esmaeelE[m]: generate the debdiff, and add the debdiff to a bug report on launchpad | 02:13 |
| esmaeelE[m] | <sarnold> "esmaeelE: generate the debdiff..." <- another `.dsc` file not present in parent directory.... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/5bfbbe1e09540e30f402756e8ded46866db9e6be) | 02:21 |
| sarnold | esmaeelE[m]: hmm, I expected the pull-lp-source to have brought the dsc and other files down .. | 02:24 |
| sarnold | esmaeelE[m]: did you remember to update the version in debian/changelog when you made your changes? | 02:25 |
| esmaeelE[m] | sarnold: no I don't. Which line must be changed in `debian/changelog`? I think version read from another file. | 02:30 |
| sarnold | esmaeelE[m]: you add a new stanza like all the others in that file | 02:31 |
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| esmaeelE[m] | <sarnold> "esmaeelE: you add a new stanza..." <- is this correct. I add my lines at head of `debian/changelog`... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/7cb8279d5ecc8edc225fcf71ada936806576a22c) | 02:40 |
| esmaeelE[m] | > <@sarnold:libera.chat> esmaeelE: you add a new stanza like all the others in that file... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/a762b22fbc9e9fa984b2377038584168117b3e7a) | 02:40 |
| esmaeelE[m] | * is this correct. I add my lines at head of `debian/changelog`... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/8f6d434e3aac793458c7656b56504e4163026636) | 02:41 |
| esmaeelE[m] | * is this correct. I add my lines at head of `debian/changelog`... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/bf516790b65e42cbccbf118d3ed6ed55eda84521) | 02:41 |
| esmaeelE[m] | * is this correct. I add my lines at head of `debian/changelog`... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/7f57b9ead5601250904aea2b30bae073fdd5ccc5) | 02:41 |
| esmaeelE[m] | * is this correct. I add my lines at head of `debian/changelog`... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/8747f90916ffdd1a64bddc5282a5a7bd654b45cc) | 02:41 |
| sarnold | yikes | 02:42 |
| sarnold | I'm only loading the last one of those, I hope it's all :) | 02:42 |
| sarnold | esmaeelE[m]: use the format "esmaeelE <esmaeelEE@protonmail.com>" for the name and email address | 02:44 |
| agrosant | what's wrong with all people going proprietary these days? | 02:47 |
| esmaeelE[m] | sarnold: ubiquity (22.10.2) kinetic; urgency=medium... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/7bda3916543941720381d0cf5d12490c5db80a25) | 02:47 |
| sarnold | esmaeelE[m]: no quotes around the <foo@bar> | 02:47 |
| esmaeelE[m] | <sarnold> "esmaeelE: no quotes around the..." <- https://paste.c-net.org/ObsceneArabia | 02:56 |
| esmaeelE[m] | esmaeelE[m]: I think I don't know what you say | 02:56 |
| sarnold | esmaeelE[m]: use the same punctuatin that brian used | 02:57 |
| esmaeelE[m] | <sarnold> "esmaeelE: use the same punctuati..." <- https://paste.c-net.org/DoubtingTrump | 03:03 |
| esmaeelE[m] | esmaeelE[m]: Now it exactly same as brian | 03:03 |
| sarnold | esmaeelE[m]: great :) | 03:04 |
| sarnold | esmaeelE[m]: generate the debdiff, add the debdiff to a bug, and hope for the best :) | 03:04 |
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| Hash | Hi guys | 03:13 |
| Hash | Can anyone please help me install wine on 20.04? | 03:13 |
| Hash | https://bpa.st/JOGA I get this error. | 03:13 |
| Hash | https://bpa.st/EF4Q I can install wine, but it doesn't install wine32 and gives error about win32 | 03:13 |
| enigma9o7[m] | ok this stuff i ssomething to do with you mixing official repos and ppas | 03:13 |
| Hash | Who me? | 03:14 |
| Hash | No sir. | 03:14 |
| Hash | Just default ubuntu | 03:14 |
| enigma9o7[m] | The easiest workaround is just install wine from ppa... but if you wanna get the official version working, means gotta drop some ppas... | 03:14 |
| enigma9o7[m] | Oh really. | 03:14 |
| enigma9o7[m] | Hmmmm. | 03:14 |
| Hash | https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu | 03:14 |
| enigma9o7[m] | In theory you should not get that kinda stuff if you're using official repos only, so my bad.... | 03:14 |
| Hash | Should I try from here? | 03:14 |
| enigma9o7[m] | Yes, follow the wine hq instructions. | 03:15 |
| enigma9o7[m] | If you follow that, and have issues, ask again, ping me if nobody responds, but it should work fine. | 03:16 |
| enigma9o7[m] | Unless you really wanna debug why the official ubuntu repo version isnt installing, which we could do instead... but better to use the ppa version anyway. | 03:17 |
| Hash | https://bpa.st/U6EA | 03:17 |
| Hash | it won't install from there either | 03:17 |
| enigma9o7[m] | can you share terminal output? | 03:18 |
| Hash | sec | 03:18 |
| enigma9o7[m] | oh oik that is paste | 03:18 |
| enigma9o7[m] | nvm lemee look at it | 03:18 |
| enigma9o7[m] | Hmm weirdness. | 03:18 |
| Hash | https://bpa.st/KC5Q | 03:18 |
| Hash | https://bpa.st/4KPQ | 03:18 |
| cassius | Anybody here use Parsec on 22.04? | 03:19 |
| enigma9o7[m] | did you enable the 32-bit stuff as mentioned on that page? lemee find the command | 03:19 |
| Hash | Yes | 03:19 |
| Hash | 32 bit arch is added | 03:19 |
| enigma9o7[m] | `sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386` | 03:19 |
| enigma9o7[m] | that | 03:19 |
| Hash | yes | 03:19 |
| Hash | I have no held back packages | 03:20 |
| Hash | https://bpa.st/6OJA this is the only thing in etc/apt/preferences | 03:20 |
| esmaeelE[m] | <sarnold> "esmaeelE: generate the debdiff..." <- Thanks for your kind answers. I put `debdiff` to bug report. | 03:20 |
| esmaeelE[m] | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1891270 | 03:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1891270 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Iranian calendar shows in Azerbaijani language" [Low, Fix Committed] | 03:20 |
| enigma9o7[m] | You really have no other weird ppas that coulda instealled too new of stuff? cuz thats what it looks like to me. | 03:21 |
| Hash | sec | 03:21 |
| esmaeelE[m] | > <@esmaeele:matrix.org> Thanks for your kind answers. I put `debdiff` to bug report. | 03:21 |
| esmaeelE[m] | > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1891270 | 03:21 |
| esmaeelE[m] | What can I do after that? | 03:21 |
| enigma9o7[m] | I dont have a good answer tho :( it should "just work" if you follow those instructions, which you did. | 03:21 |
| enigma9o7[m] | if you really really wanna track it down you gotta try one thing at a time and see why it isnt working | 03:21 |
| Hash | $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999 | 03:21 |
| Hash | https://termbin.com/xukz | 03:21 |
| Hash | $ cat * | nc termbin.com 9999 | 03:22 |
| Hash | https://termbin.com/7olf | 03:22 |
| enigma9o7[m] | the first thing it complains about is `libgphoto2-6:i386 (>= 2.5.10)` so try installing that manually and see why it doesnt want to | 03:22 |
| Hash | that's all I have | 03:22 |
| enigma9o7[m] | hash, there's all the stuff in /etc/apt/sources.list.d too | 03:22 |
| Hash | that's my 2nd paste | 03:22 |
| Hash | https://bpa.st/VSXA | 03:23 |
| Hash | eaiser to read here | 03:23 |
| Hash | -rw-rw-r-- 1 stoned stoned 165 May 3 21:16 winehq-focal.sources | 03:23 |
| Hash | hang on | 03:23 |
| Hash | let me remove that I think that's new from their instructinos just now | 03:23 |
| enigma9o7[m] | well ok you've gone nuts with ppas | 03:23 |
| enigma9o7[m] | something there is using too new of a library that it pulled in | 03:24 |
| Hash | hmm | 03:24 |
| Hash | I wonder, I should probably upgrade, maybe that will help | 03:24 |
| Hash | to 22.04 | 03:25 |
| Hash | I might even reinstall if I have to today, whatever | 03:28 |
| enigma9o7[m] | A clean install of 22.04 of course is optimal solution. | 03:28 |
| Hash | Not and upgrade? | 03:28 |
| enigma9o7[m] | well staring clean is always better cuz then you're not dealing with old issues | 03:28 |
| enigma9o7[m] | but an upgrade may work, who knows. | 03:29 |
| enigma9o7[m] | but clean is always good | 03:29 |
| Hash | if the upgrade doesn't work to do what I want | 03:29 |
| Hash | I'll reinstall | 03:29 |
| enigma9o7[m] | I'm still running 18.04 ;) | 03:29 |
| enigma9o7[m] | [on hardware; i have jammy virtually] | 03:30 |
| agrosant | dionysus69, tell me a good music player dude | 03:42 |
| enigma9o7[m] | cmus | 03:46 |
| smallville7123 | oof | 03:54 |
| smallville7123 | W: Repository is broken: discord:amd64 (= 0.0.17) has no Size information | 03:54 |
| enigma9o7[m] | discord is most certainly not in ubuntu repo | 03:55 |
| smallville7123 | :) | 03:55 |
| Hash | Hi | 04:04 |
| Hash | my /home is mounted and I want to clone it to another drive | 04:04 |
| veegee | Anyone else having trouble installing samba on the latest ubuntu server? | 04:05 |
| Hash | How can I clone a live mounted /home to another drive? | 04:05 |
| Hash | rsync it? | 04:05 |
| veegee | Hash yes `rsync -aP source dest` | 04:05 |
| Hash | ok | 04:05 |
| veegee | if they're ssds, rclone is faster | 04:05 |
| veegee | it's like rsync, but parallel | 04:05 |
| veegee | `sudo apt install samba` seems to just get stuck at the last step | 04:06 |
| Hash | https://i.imgur.com/rtua6Fp.png | 04:06 |
| veegee | the post install | 04:06 |
| Hash | Look what happened to my SSD | 04:06 |
| Hash | It's 11-12 years old | 04:06 |
| Hash | M4 Crucial 128GB SSD | 04:07 |
| veegee | yeah, sounds about right | 04:07 |
| Hash | It's starting to get bad sectors, but I'll still use it until it lasts. I want to move / and /home off it | 04:07 |
| veegee | `sudo smartctl -t long /dev/sdf | 04:07 |
| Hash | will do / reinstall, but /home needs to go | 04:07 |
| Hash | extended self test? | 04:08 |
| veegee | yes | 04:08 |
| Hash | should run that now. | 04:08 |
| Hash | good idea. | 04:08 |
| veegee | relocated sectors alone doesn't mean imminent failure | 04:08 |
| matsaman | no, smart is a waste of time | 04:08 |
| Hash | what is rclone? | 04:08 |
| matsaman | if you know your disk is bad, just replace it | 04:08 |
| Hash | vegetux: on hdd maybe | 04:08 |
| matsaman | if you merely suspect your disk is bad, just replace it | 04:08 |
| Hash | SSD will still have many years | 04:08 |
| veegee | Hash it's like rsync, but faster | 04:08 |
| veegee | it's like running many rsync instances in parallel | 04:09 |
| veegee | but don't worry about it, rsync is totally fine for such a small SSD | 04:09 |
| veegee | I use rclone when copying data in the order of 50 TB | 04:09 |
| Hash | rclone man page says it's for cloud services | 04:09 |
| veegee | it _also_ does that | 04:09 |
| veegee | but works just fine on local filesystem | 04:09 |
| Hash | 8 min left until full test is done | 04:10 |
| veegee | when you have like 24 NVMe SSDs and a SAN running on 56G infiniband, rsync doesn't cut it | 04:10 |
| Hash | I have a 1TB SSD that is dedicated to a Windows 10 VM | 04:10 |
| matsaman | faster can be nice. Rsync has a better license, though | 04:10 |
| Hash | I can't use a partition from it | 04:10 |
| matsaman | you could, but not with no effort | 04:10 |
| Hash | Because the whole disk is given raw access in vbox to run a windows | 04:10 |
| Hash | No I can't. | 04:11 |
| Hash | Absolutely cannot otherwise disk corruption. | 04:11 |
| matsaman | you could, but not with no effort | 04:11 |
| Hash | Again, I can't. | 04:11 |
| matsaman | mmm, if you say so | 04:11 |
| Hash | So either buy another ssd or continue using this one. | 04:11 |
| Hash | So when you give virtualbox a whole disk to use, you cant then use the disk partitions in any other OS | 04:11 |
| veegee | you can | 04:11 |
| Hash | That's a thing with vmare and vbox and connectix virtual pc since 2000 | 04:11 |
| Hash | Hasn't changed. | 04:11 |
| veegee | You actually can. It's not quite that simple, but you most certainly can | 04:12 |
| veegee | I've done it | 04:12 |
| Hash | You could if you wanted disk corruption. | 04:12 |
| matsaman | I'm sure it would not be fun, and maybe not even worthwhile, but you could do it. | 04:12 |
| matsaman | (without corruption) | 04:12 |
| Hash | Again | 04:12 |
| matsaman | again, if you say so =P | 04:12 |
| Hash | I don't like arguments are needless things. | 04:12 |
| Hash | Can we focus | 04:12 |
| matsaman | let's focus | 04:12 |
| Hash | over* | 04:12 |
| Hash | Thank you | 04:12 |
| Hash | I just bought 2x 2TB seagate barracuda (1400 revies 5 star) | 04:13 |
| Hash | and 1x 4TB WD blue for cold backup | 04:13 |
| Hash | I need to clone my /home right now to both of them | 04:14 |
| veegee | as far as hard drives go, I don't buy anything other than enterprise SAS | 04:14 |
| veegee | like Toshiba MG06, WD ultrastar DC | 04:14 |
| veegee | I avoid Seagate, but if I have to, Exos with a SAS interface | 04:15 |
| Hash | What if I wanted a mirror of those 2x seagates | 04:16 |
| Hash | I wonder how to do raid in linux never did it yet | 04:16 |
| veegee | zfs or btrfs | 04:16 |
| veegee | that will give you protection against silent corruption as well | 04:16 |
| Hash | zfs I have used | 04:16 |
| Hash | OS: Linux 5.4.0-109-generic/x86_64-Distro: Ubuntu 20.04.4 LTS-CPU: 16 x AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8-Core (2195.559 MHz)-Processes: 531-Uptime: 10d 1h 9m-Users: 28-Load Average: 1.11-Memory Usage: 34156.04MB/64306.82MB (11.73%)-Disk Usage: 831.92GB/4715.83GB (17.64%) | 04:16 |
| veegee | yeah it's like 1 command to create it | 04:17 |
| Hash | I have this, 64gb ram, ought to be enough for zfs | 04:17 |
| Hash | I have used before. | 04:17 |
| Hash | Once my pool went ba cuz of dead drives I hadn't used it since | 04:17 |
| Hash | hadn't had enough disks. | 04:17 |
| matsaman | I buy whatever's cheapest that doesn't look like it was made by a company founded yesterday. Zero computer hardware failures | 04:17 |
| matsaman | but I did return some seagates once 'cause they didn't sleep right | 04:17 |
| veegee | there's a very big difference between seagate barracuda with insanely high drive failure rate and enterprise SAS drives with 550 TB/year rated workload | 04:17 |
| Hash | There is also MHDD | 04:18 |
| Hash | get a clear picture of every block on the ssd | 04:18 |
| veegee | waste of time | 04:18 |
| Hash | er.. hdd | 04:18 |
| Hash | not sure it works on ssd | 04:18 |
| veegee | SCSI or gtfo | 04:18 |
| Hash | I have used it to find bad sectors and mark them bad | 04:18 |
| Hash | can we please not do this? | 04:18 |
| veegee | the drive does that automatically | 04:18 |
| matsaman | Hash: you want to clone your /home as a backup? | 04:18 |
| Hash | I am working with what I have. I can't get SCSI or get the fuck out. | 04:19 |
| veegee | lol! | 04:19 |
| veegee | Just use ZFS and be done with it, what's there left to talk about? | 04:19 |
| Hash | Ahh. You're one of those guys. | 04:19 |
| Hash | Ok, have a good evening dude. | 04:19 |
| veegee | lol what? | 04:20 |
| Hash | matsaman: yeah, soon as self test on /home is done, I'll clone to the new hdd using rsync | 04:20 |
| matsaman | Hash: mmm, yeah rsync is an easy choice | 04:20 |
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| Hash | https://bpa.st/QNLQ smart scan done | 04:21 |
| Hash | https://bpa.st/KOCA here sorry | 04:21 |
| veegee | 72,000 power on hours LOL | 04:22 |
| Hash | looks like SSD is going bad. I might oder a new one. | 04:22 |
| veegee | The data retention on that must be terrible without power | 04:22 |
| veegee | SATA CRC errors | 04:23 |
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| timothy_ | Hi, I am on a brand new machine and new Ubuntu 22.04 install. During installation if I try to enable LUKS it fails (even if I replace the SSD or NVMe). If I try to encrypt ANY drive with LUKS after installation is also fails. It asks me to enter the password twice it says ok and then: Error formatting volume, Error opening LUKS device: Failed to activate device: Incorrect Passphrase. | 05:38 |
| squid_game | I am using ubuntu 18.04.6 on my PC. I use a script to configure my network interfaces at work that just do ip addr add, ip link add, ip route add, ip rule add stuffs. After the configuration it does ip link set ethX up, but when the script is completed, my interfaces are down and part of ip configurations are lost. Would anyone know why would the interface lost configurations? How can I debug it? I monitor syslog, but can't see anyt | 05:39 |
| sarnold | squid_game: irc has line length limits; you were cut off at "can't see anyt" | 05:44 |
| sarnold | timothy_: hrm ;( is there anything more detailed in journalctl or the installer logs? | 05:44 |
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| timothy_ | sarnold cannot see anything in jounaltcl | 05:48 |
| timothy_ | If I open up "disks" in the installed ubuntu, select any of the drives , delete all partitions and create a new one with luks | 05:48 |
| timothy_ | it asks me for the passphrase I enter it twice it says ok and then after a while that error | 05:49 |
| timothy_ | and disks shows the partition as a luks encrypted drive | 05:49 |
| squid_game | sarnold, can't see anything wrong. Do you know why an interface wuld loose the settings and power down | 05:49 |
| timothy_ | It's like this entire PC is unable to use LUKS for some reason | 05:49 |
| timothy_ | (ubuntu 21.10 the same) | 05:49 |
| sarnold | timothy_: dmesg? | 05:50 |
| timothy_ | I cleared dmesg before trying to create the partition then I created the partition | 05:52 |
| timothy_ | there is nothing in dmesg | 05:52 |
| sarnold | hah | 05:52 |
| timothy_ | except for | 05:53 |
| timothy_ | [ 1260.100249] sda: | 05:53 |
| sarnold | squid_game: this is a shot in the dark, and it's a pretty bad one... | 05:53 |
| timothy_ | and that is it | 05:53 |
| sarnold | squid_game: https://serverfault.com/a/711082 | 05:53 |
| sarnold | timothy_: interesting. that kinda looks like the drive has no partition table or something similar | 05:53 |
| timothy_ | I have created a partition table, and it's for ANY drive | 05:53 |
| timothy_ | so I have one nvme, and 2SSD | 05:53 |
| timothy_ | syslog has some info please hang on | 05:54 |
| alkisg | squid_game: interfaces are usually managed by ifupdown, network-manager, systemd-networkd, netplan etc; these might even break your manual settings; why do you prefer manual settings instead of using one of these packages? | 05:54 |
| squid_game | I got disconnected while playing with the interfaces. | 05:54 |
| sarnold | heh | 05:55 |
| sarnold | Wed 04 05:53:25 < sarnold> squid_game: https://serverfault.com/a/711082 | 05:55 |
| sarnold | < alkisg> squid_game: interfaces are usually managed by ifupdown, network-manager, systemd-networkd, netplan etc; these might even break your manual settings; why do you prefer manual settings instead of using one of these packages? | 05:55 |
| timothy_ | https://pastebin.com/ev4hs1Jv | 05:55 |
| squid_game | thank you, I am going to test it | 05:55 |
| sarnold | timothy_: very interesting, I've never seen those "overlaps with the extended partition metadata" thing before | 05:56 |
| sarnold | timothy_: it's also a bit of a shot in the dark, but that feels very much like the sort of thing that'd cause problems | 05:56 |
| timothy_ | I am now using gparted to create a new partition table gpt | 05:56 |
| timothy_ | the exact same output | 05:58 |
| sarnold | :( | 05:59 |
| timothy_ | if it was just one drive I would get it | 05:59 |
| timothy_ | but any and all drives | 05:59 |
| timothy_ | and my other systems never had this issue (I run ubuntu everywhere) | 05:59 |
| timothy_ | could it be something in the bios | 06:00 |
| timothy_ | creating a partition without encryption works fine | 06:01 |
| toolbox | Installed some AWS Ubuntu 18.04 servers. Any recommendation about installing GUI? I did not have option in AWS to choose Ubuntu desktop. | 06:07 |
| squid_game | sarnold, it didn't help. I am just running this script https://pastebin.com/NfbAHQdv then at the end my ethX interface (and rest vlans) are down | 06:08 |
| squid_game | the script doesn't have anything to down the interface. I wonder what could be taking the interface down. or how can I debug such issue? | 06:09 |
| toolbox | Ignore my question above. I run Ubuntu privately but at work I do Debian. | 06:12 |
| === jesster1234 is now known as jessicant | ||
| Goose14 | hello, "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb iflag=nocache oflag=direct bs=4096" this command been running since yesterday anyway to know how much progress did it make so far? | 06:33 |
| ravage | sudo kill -USR1 $(pgrep ^dd$) | 06:34 |
| Goose14 | ravage is this going to kill the process? | 06:35 |
| ravage | no | 06:35 |
| ravage | it will output the current status | 06:35 |
| Goose14 | it returned nothing | 06:36 |
| Goose14 | oh wait | 06:36 |
| Goose14 | 821076750336 bytes (821 GB, 765 GiB) copied, 37348.6 s, 22.0 MB/s | 06:36 |
| Goose14 | thanks ravage | 06:38 |
| ravage | yw | 06:38 |
| === hackerman9 is now known as hackerman | ||
| rafayet | hiii | 07:46 |
| rafayet | anyone here | 07:46 |
| rafayet | how to update karnel on ubuntu cinamon version | 07:47 |
| rafayet | help me | 07:47 |
| rdr | raf<tab> he's gone | 07:51 |
| rdr | couldn't wait | 07:51 |
| rdr | goodbye sweet matrix bridgedrs | 07:57 |
| Goose14 | i want to split my external hdd into 4 partitions and i'm going to set up luks on one of them, does luks require the partition to be in a specific place ie. first sectors and so? | 08:14 |
| mncheck | release-upgrading focal to jammy got my friend an unbootable jammy with a screen he described as saying "oops". any idea what could he be talking about? | 08:16 |
| mncheck | may or may not include ":(" | 08:17 |
| lgp171188 | After upgrading my RPi4 8 GB to 22.04, I am having an issue where the initramfs generation fails due to there being no space left on the /boot/firmware (~256 MiB in size) partition. A couple of times, deleting the *.bak files in that partition helped. But with today's upgrade, that doesn't help as it is stuck in a loop. Is this a known isssue? How can I fix it? | 08:18 |
| overclucker | lgp171188: I'm not sure if there's a known solution for that, what I would try would be to either change the output for mkinitramfs or unmount the boot partition temporarily, so you have more room to work. you could copy the files back to the correct partition later | 08:34 |
| alocer | lgp171188: looks a bit low to me. | 08:37 |
| alocer | lgp171188: cant you increase the space? | 08:37 |
| alocer | mncheck: is he using the nvidia drivers ? | 08:38 |
| alocer | mncheck: best thing he can do is to boot into safemode and browse the logs for some tips. | 08:38 |
| mncheck | alocer, I don't know, thanks for the tip. I can't find "oops" on google, I think the description must have been less than exact. Do you know this screen? What is the actual text? | 08:44 |
| alocer | mncheck: lol. no idea :)) | 08:51 |
| alocer | sory | 08:51 |
| eoli3n | Hi | 08:58 |
| eoli3n | https://www.mono-project.com/download/stable/ | 08:58 |
| eoli3n | how to port that kind of install to the new gpg management for repositories with signed-by ? | 08:59 |
| eoli3n | when i search the keyid '3FA7E0328081BFF6A14DA29AA6A19B38D3D831EF' on keyserver.ubuntu.com, i doesn't find it | 09:00 |
| ogra | eoli3n, that's really a question to the mono guys | 09:17 |
| mncheck | alocer, ok, thanks | 09:17 |
| eoli3n | ogra not really, as this is an apt problem | 09:18 |
| eoli3n | "problem" | 09:18 |
| ogra | eoli3n, it is their key ... nothing ubuntu manages | 09:18 |
| eoli3n | so what is stored on keyserver.ubuntu.com ? | 09:18 |
| ogra | keys ... | 09:19 |
| eoli3n | so my question is how to extract the key as gpg file from the server | 09:19 |
| LinuxAspy | I installed Anbox in Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. I launched it. The says loading for 1 minute, then closes. LOL | 09:22 |
| LinuxAspy | Where do I start? | 09:22 |
| ogra | LinuxAspy, somewhere on an anbox forum, anbox is not part of ubuntu | 09:22 |
| LinuxAspy | ogra: Ah. I heard it was made by Canonical. | 09:23 |
| ogra | eoli3n, you download it with the command on teh page, it will be added to your trusted,gpg keyring in /etc/apt ... | 09:23 |
| eoli3n | this is deprecated | 09:24 |
| ogra | eoli3n, for the rest see "man apt-key" | 09:24 |
| ogra | what is deprecated ? | 09:25 |
| eoli3n | you need now to have a single mono.gpg file, and point in to the repo line as "deb [signed-by=/path/to/mono.gpg] repo ...." | 09:25 |
| eoli3n | using generic trusted.gpg file | 09:25 |
| LinuxAspy | ogra its in the Ubuntu repository, so I'd consider that part of Ubuntu. | 09:25 |
| LinuxAspy | ogra Canonical put it in there. | 09:25 |
| eoli3n | ogra -> : http://ppa.launchpad.net/alexis.bienvenue/test/ubuntu/dists/jammy/InRelease: Key is stored in legacy trusted.gpg keyring (/etc/apt/trusted.gpg), see the DEPRECATION section in apt-key(8) for details. | 09:26 |
| ogra | LinuxAspy, it is a spare time project of a canonical employee | 09:26 |
| eoli3n | for exemple | 09:26 |
| LinuxAspy | I found #anbox. I will join now. Thanks. | 09:26 |
| ogra | eoli3n, the commandf on the page gets you the key and adds it to trusted.gpg, if you want to extract it from there use apt-key as described in the manpage | 09:27 |
| eoli3n | i just see this in the DEPRECATION section of apt-key :) | 09:27 |
| eoli3n | ok got it | 09:27 |
| eoli3n | hm no | 09:28 |
| eoli3n | i still miss something | 09:28 |
| eoli3n | apt-key adv --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:80 --recv-keys 3FA7E0328081BFF6A14DA29AA6A19B38D3D831EF | 09:28 |
| eoli3n | how to get the gpg file from this ? | 09:28 |
| eoli3n | lets reread the man page | 09:29 |
| ogra | try --keyring mykey.gpg ? | 09:29 |
| eoli3n | apt-key export 3FA7E0328081BFF6A14DA29AA6A19B38D3D831EF | 09:30 |
| eoli3n | simple | 09:30 |
| eoli3n | and redirect this in file.gpg | 09:30 |
| eoli3n | hm | 09:30 |
| eoli3n | not sure | 09:30 |
| eoli3n | lets try --keyring | 09:31 |
| ogra | but yeah, the export was what i meant initially | 09:31 |
| eoli3n | nop | 09:32 |
| eoli3n | --keyring is not an option | 09:32 |
| eoli3n | and exporting export as a GPG certificate, which differs from what i get on some others exemples | 09:32 |
| LinuxAspy | How can I see if the binder and ashmem modules are loaded in Ubuntu 20.04 LTS? | 09:33 |
| ogra | --keyring must come before the command ... | 09:33 |
| ogra | LinuxAspy, like with any other module ... | 09:33 |
| ogra | (lsmod) | 09:33 |
| eoli3n | ogra, yep but i get mono.gpg no such file or directory | 09:34 |
| eoli3n | apt-key adv --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:80 --keyring ./mono.gpg --recv-keys 3FA7E0328081BFF6A14DA29AA6A19B38D3D831EF | 09:34 |
| eoli3n | tried without './' too | 09:34 |
| LinuxAspy | ogra really? Cool. And how is that done? | 09:34 |
| Unit193 | If the exported file is asciiarmored, you can still use that if you give it the asc extension. Eg, /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/mono.asc | 09:34 |
| LinuxAspy | ogra thank you. | 09:34 |
| eoli3n | apt-key --keyring mono.gpg adv --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:80 --recv-keys 3FA7E0328081BFF6A14DA29AA6A19B38D3D831EF | 09:35 |
| eoli3n | better | 09:35 |
| ogra | eoli3n, *before the command* 😉 ... "apt-key --keyserver ... adv ..." | 09:35 |
| eoli3n | yes | 09:35 |
| eoli3n | just foudn out | 09:35 |
| LinuxAspy | So according the the Anbox website, binder and ashmem modules are suppose to be loaded in Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. The website is 'copyright 2018' thought, so maybe that information is no longer accurate. | 09:36 |
| LinuxAspy | *though | 09:37 |
| LinuxAspy | Well, I'd expect them to be loaded, unless Canonical didn't bother to actually test Anbox because putting it in Ubuntu 20.04 LTS's repository. | 09:38 |
| LinuxAspy | *before putting | 09:38 |
| LinuxAspy | Why is it every time I want to do something in Ubuntu, its breaks. | 09:39 |
| LinuxAspy | How do I enable the binder and ashmem modules in Ubuntu 20.04 LTS? | 09:40 |
| LinuxAspy | Yes, Ubuntu is broken. | 09:42 |
| LinuxAspy | https://github.com/anbox/anbox/issues/1896 | 09:42 |
| ubottu | Issue 1896 in anbox/anbox "ls: cannot access '/dev/binder': No such file or directory" [Closed] | 09:42 |
| Goose14 | i've 1Tb external hard drive i'm trying to use gparted to make new partitions inside the hdd, what partition table should i use? | 09:43 |
| ogra | LinuxAspy, please ask in the anbox forum/channel ... | 09:46 |
| LinuxAspy | ogra this isn't an Anbox problem, this is an Ubuntu problem. Kernel modules that are suppose to be loaded, aren't loaded. | 09:47 |
| ogra | LinuxAspy, i wont argue with you about this, please take it to the anbox support, /dev/binder has not existed in ages in the linux kernel and anbox should use binderfs instead ... if the docs are incorrect, ask their support, it is linked from the anbox.org page ... this is a multivers package we can not really support here | 09:49 |
| LinuxAspy25 | How can I fix Ubuntu 20.04 LTS by getting the binder and ashmem modules loaded, like they are suppose to be? | 09:50 |
| ogra | LinuxAspy25, again ... i wont argue with you about this, please take it to the anbox support, /dev/binder has not existed in ages in the linux kernel and anbox should use binderfs instead ... if the docs are incorrect, ask their support, it is linked from the anbox.org page ... this is a multivers package we can not really support here | 09:50 |
| LinuxAspy25 | ogra ok. | 09:51 |
| ogra | follow their instructions, if there is anything wrong, ask their support | 09:51 |
| LinuxAspy25 | ogra then why has Canonical included Anbox in the 20.04 LTS repo if it requires something that is not in Ubuntu 20.04 LTS? | 09:51 |
| ogra | LinuxAspy25, ask their support why they uploaded it to the archive ... | 09:52 |
| LinuxAspy25 | ogra, Canonical tests packages before including them. It must have worked at the start, and as it does not now, that would indicate a problem with Ubuntu. | 09:53 |
| ogra | LinuxAspy25, wrong | 09:53 |
| LinuxAspy25 | ogra Canonical does not test apps before putting them in the repo? | 09:54 |
| ogra | canonical imports packages from debian, it only supportes and tests a small subset of packages | 09:54 |
| LinuxAspy25 | Wow. I see. My bad! | 09:54 |
| LinuxAspy25 | That's pretty terrible. | 09:55 |
| === LinuxAspy25 is now known as LinuxAspy | ||
| LinuxAspy | #join #ubuntu-devel | 09:56 |
| LinuxAspy | Oops | 09:56 |
| HB[m] | urxvt: perl hook 0 evaluation error: /home/stoned/.urxvt/ext/background: Bareword "FR_AGAIN" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at /home/stoned/.urxvt/ext/background line 1177, <$fh> line 1. | 10:05 |
| HB[m] | What changed in 22.04 perl that the plugin doesn't work anymore, any ideas? | 10:05 |
| HB[m] | It worked fine in 20.04 | 10:05 |
| sams | how do i add a text editor to filezilla? ffs tried the os installed and they hideen, even tried sublime and its hidden from being used?! | 10:19 |
| LinuxAspy | So I hear binder and ashmem are installed in Ubuntu 20.04 LTS, but are not enabled by default. Anyone know how I can enable them? | 10:24 |
| ogra | LinuxAspy, it is all in detail in the anbox install instructions ... | 10:24 |
| LinuxAspy | ogra oh yeah? Where? | 10:26 |
| LinuxAspy | https://docs.anbox.io/userguide/install_kernel_modules.html | 10:26 |
| LinuxAspy | ogra do you still work for Canonical? | 10:27 |
| ogra | LinuxAspy, a) read the different "note" comments ... scroll to the middle of the page, it tells you how to load the modules | 10:28 |
| LinuxAspy | Apparently you still work for Canonical. That is extraordinary. | 10:29 |
| LinuxAspy | Ok, the modules are loaded. | 10:31 |
| LinuxAspy | I bet something else goes wrong. | 10:32 |
| lotuspsychje | LinuxAspy: please dont describe every step you do in the ubuntu support channel | 10:32 |
| lotuspsychje | ask an ubuntu question, then patient until someone answers you | 10:32 |
| rob0 | why would it be "extraordinary" to find Canonical people in #ubuntu? | 10:32 |
| lotuspsychje | not a discussion for here rob0 | 10:32 |
| ogra | rob0, perhaps the emphasis was on "still" 🙂 | 10:32 |
| LinuxAspy | rob0 explaining that is off-topic and a sin, so I cannot tell you here. | 10:32 |
| ogra | but yeah, ot for here | 10:32 |
| Linux^ | hi | 10:34 |
| LinuxAspy | Hi | 10:34 |
| Linux^ | what is "tuned-adm list" ? It lists some settings, does it really work? | 10:34 |
| LinuxAspy | Does Ubuntu needed to be restarted after loading kernel modules? | 10:34 |
| rob0 | LinuxAspy: no, that is the point of modules, no rebooting. | 10:34 |
| LinuxAspy | Thanks | 10:35 |
| LinuxAspy | Just fantastic | 10:36 |
| LinuxAspy | I have another problem where the application manager service is not running. I can't see it listed using the command 'service --status-all'. Now what? | 10:37 |
| ogra | ask the people that know ? | 10:37 |
| LinuxAspy | ogra stop arguing like an aspy. | 10:38 |
| ogra | can you stop insulting ? and simply listen to the advise you are being given since 1.5h now ? | 10:39 |
| LinuxAspy | What is application manger service? | 10:39 |
| ogra | likely some bit from anbox | 10:39 |
| LinuxAspy | ogra how can I confirm this? | 10:39 |
| ogra | asking the guys that know | 10:39 |
| LinuxAspy | That's what #ubuntu is for. Help. | 10:40 |
| ogra | not for third party software we do not maintain | 10:40 |
| LinuxAspy | ogra how do you know its third party software? | 10:40 |
| ogra | anbox.io has clear instructions how to get help with it at the bottom | 10:40 |
| rob0 | Does this anbox have documentation? In my view that is the first place to go. | 10:40 |
| ogra | yes, it does | 10:40 |
| ogra | lots of | 10:40 |
| ogra | and pretty clear pointers where to go when you have trouble | 10:41 |
| rob0 | That's true of most free software project, IME. | 10:41 |
| LinuxAspy | Application manager service sounds like something at the operating system level. | 10:41 |
| LinuxAspy | I will check anbox's documentation while I am looking at ubuntu.com. Thanks. | 10:41 |
| ogra | sigh | 10:41 |
| ogra | (there is no anbox help on ubuntu.com) | 10:42 |
| LinuxAspy | ogra. You know how you read reviews of people using Linux where they say the community is arrogant? You are being one of those people right now. | 10:42 |
| LinuxAspy | ogra it is harmful to Ubuntu where you be hostile to other users seeking help. | 10:43 |
| McQuestionable | Can we let this conversation end? We're all friends here | 10:43 |
| lotuspsychje | stop it LinuxAspy | 10:44 |
| lotuspsychje | you trolled enough now | 10:44 |
| LinuxAspy | lotuspsychje you are an op are you not? You should be the one to stop it, not me. | 10:44 |
| rob0 | uh ... | 10:44 |
| ogra | LinuxAspy, well, i'm really patient with a person that is reluctant to any help, does not listen to any advise, goes to the office work channels of people derspite being told not to, shouting into the room about random unrelated problems | 10:45 |
| LinuxAspy | ogra where is the documentation for anbox you say you found? I'm not the website now and I can't find any. | 10:45 |
| ogra | LinuxAspy, i get that you have your own opinions, but they do not really corelate with the rules here and in #ubuntu-devel | 10:45 |
| Linux^ | Hi "sudo lvdisplay" doesnt work in ubuntu | 10:46 |
| ogra | LinuxAspy, please go to anbox.io ... scroll down to the bottom and get help from the anbox community | 10:46 |
| LinuxAspy | ogra your toxic stereotypical attitude is not helping me resolve my problem. | 10:46 |
| ogra | Liyou would resolve it if you would listen to the advise i give you sine now ... what 2h ? | 10:47 |
| lotuspsychje | !ops | LinuxAspy insults & trolling | 10:47 |
| ubottu | LinuxAspy insults & trolling: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant | 10:47 |
| LinuxAspy | ogra I already tried the community. They are vaporware. That is why I am now looking for more documentation. You said you found tonnes of it before. Where is it? | 10:47 |
| LinuxAspy | lotuspsychje you sound like a little bitch. | 10:47 |
| ogra | LinuxAspy, the anbox community is on telegram | 10:47 |
| rob0 | Linux^: you would need to share the error message. Perhaps you're not using LVM? Lots of possibilities, shall we try to guess all of them? | 10:48 |
| ogra | LinuxAspy, note that i'm an op and while i can handle insults against myself, i'll ban you if you insult others ... so stop this | 10:48 |
| Linux^ | rob0 sudo: lvdisplay: command not found | 10:48 |
| LinuxAspy | ogra you are welcome to ban me. I'll insult those that snitch on me over accusations of me trolling when they are simply being white knights. | 10:49 |
| rob0 | LinuxAspy, FWIW, attitudes like yours make people less likely to want to help you. | 10:49 |
| LinuxAspy | rob0 that's fine, but those people can expect Ubuntu's marketshare to continue at 1%. | 10:50 |
| LinuxAspy | Someone is talking in #anbox. I am going to be away now. | 10:50 |
| LinuxAspy | Thanks | 10:50 |
| rob0 | Don't confuse free software projects with commercial ventures. | 10:50 |
| ogra | Linux^, install the lvm2 package, it ships that command | 10:51 |
| Linux^ | sudo apt get install lvm2 ? | 10:51 |
| ogra | yes | 10:51 |
| Unit193 | `apt install` or `apt-get install` | 10:52 |
| ogra | apt install is fine (since 16.04 i think) | 10:52 |
| ogra | oh | 10:52 |
| ogra | heh, blind me | 10:52 |
| LinuxAspy | rob0 libre software of commercial software. I am going to #ubuntu-offtopic. You are welcome to talk to me there. | 10:53 |
| Linux^ | 'update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.15.0-175-generic' | 10:53 |
| rob0 | pesky little missing hyphen | 10:53 |
| Linux^ | taking some time | 10:53 |
| LinuxAspy | rob0 libre software of commercial software makes no difference, developers aim for marketshare. | 10:53 |
| BrianG61UK | https://github.com/anbox/anbox/blob/master/README.md | 10:55 |
| Linux^ | how can I get a netwrok tuned profiles for ubuntu? for a video server | 10:56 |
| Linux^ | tuned-adm list shows nothing | 10:56 |
| McQuestionable | kudos to the o ps, I'm sure it's been very busy since the new release :) | 10:59 |
| MonsieurWave | Hi everyone, since rebooting my ubuntu server (Linux 5.4.0.-107-generic), it now fails on boot and only lets me into emergency mode. When checking the journalctl -xb, I see 2 relevant errors: | 11:20 |
| MonsieurWave | 1. pcieport 10000:00:02.0: pciehp slot(91): power fault & pcieport 10000:00:03.0: pciehp slot(93): power fault | 11:20 |
| MonsieurWave | 2. pam_systemd(su:session) failed to connect to system bus | 11:20 |
| MonsieurWave | Hardware: Dell Precision 5820 | 11:20 |
| MonsieurWave | Any advice on how to fix this? | 11:20 |
| === XV8 is now known as xv8 | ||
| Linux^ | "/sbin/blockdev --setra 4096 /dev/sdb" can I do it for nvme? | 11:30 |
| XATRIX | Hi, can you advice. Using ubuntu18.04 on my host. Need to make my network-manager openvpn be able to reconnect to VPN server on a network failure. Any resources to read about ? | 11:46 |
| ubuntuuser123456 | anyone here from ansible ppa team? looks like a focal package update pushed 2 hours ago is broken, fails to install on fresh 20.04 | 11:55 |
| lotuspsychje | ubuntuuser123456: contact the ppa maintainer please; https://launchpad.net/~ansible | 11:57 |
| ubuntuuser123456 | directly via email? | 11:59 |
| ogra | ubuntuuser123456, there should be a button "contact this teams admins" | 12:00 |
| ubuntuuser123456 | got it | 12:00 |
| XATRIX | Can you advice where ubuntu invokes 'startx' command ? | 12:01 |
| XATRIX | I need to add 'startx -- -nocursor' to my kiosk. Using openbox as window manager | 12:01 |
| pmjdebruijn | XATRIX: I don't think it usually does at all, a display manager indirectly starts X11 IIRC | 12:02 |
| pmjdebruijn | XATRIX: so lightdm IIRC | 12:03 |
| XATRIX | what's the correct way to hide the mouse cursor on my screen ? | 12:03 |
| XATRIX | The way i found says: startx -- -nocursor | 12:03 |
| pmjdebruijn | that's probably not a great approach, but I never looked into it, not sure why you'd want that | 12:04 |
| pmjdebruijn | you may want to explain your goals, possibly someone will have an idea | 12:04 |
| XATRIX | I have a public kiosk service. So i need only touchscreen to be working. No mouse cursor on it | 12:07 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:08 |
| XATRIX | pmjdebruijn: | 12:10 |
| pmjdebruijn | XATRIX: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/8om7kt/comment/e05rpi2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 | 12:10 |
| ogra | not though that ubuntu does not ship lightdm anymore since 2016 ... | 12:11 |
| pmjdebruijn | oh | 12:11 |
| ogra | its gdm3 all the way since we switched back to pure gnome | 12:12 |
| * pmjdebruijn has used xubuntu for a while now :) | 12:12 | |
| ogra | yeah, some flavours still use lightdm | 12:12 |
| ogra | (lubuntu + xubuntu i think) | 12:12 |
| XATRIX | please advice :) now to hide a cursor :) still need it | 12:12 |
| pmjdebruijn | XATRIX: google gdm no cursor | 12:13 |
| ogra | i dont think you can easily ... i do know that ubuntu-frame (our kiosk display manager) auto-hides it whan you unplug the mouse thoug | 12:13 |
| ogra | h | 12:13 |
| Guest18 | Buenas tardes | 12:24 |
| Guest18 | EStoy teniendo un problema al pasar de 21.10 a 22.0 | 12:24 |
| Guest18 | 22.04, perdón | 12:24 |
| zaggynl | !es | 12:24 |
| ubottu | En la mayorÃa de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 12:24 |
| Guest18 | ok, gracias | 12:25 |
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| Linux^ | How to list all configuration files for an already installed application? | 12:48 |
| Linux^ | and the locations | 12:48 |
| pmjdebruijn | Linux^: dpkg -L packagename | grep '^/etc' | 12:50 |
| pmjdebruijn | at least those are the configs that are generally considered user editable | 12:51 |
| pmjdebruijn | some packages have stuff in /usr/share like /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d, but generally you're not supposed to edit that, as changes might be overwritten by package updates | 12:51 |
| Linux^ | its a static binary | 12:52 |
| Linux^ | then? | 12:52 |
| pmjdebruijn | uhm? | 12:54 |
| pmjdebruijn | then it's not a properly installed application :D | 12:54 |
| pmjdebruijn | Linux^: you'd have to ask where you got the binary essentially | 12:54 |
| SteelRose | hi all! is there any way to effectively open/work with OneNote files on Linux? Thanks! | 12:55 |
| isene | (on 22.04) - I have had a nice powersaving setup on my laptop with slimbookbattery, powertop --auto-tune, pm-powersave true and with tlp. New laptop, everything works well also with that setup - around 9W power drain. Then I did *something* and damn! Power consumption is now 40W(!). Trying to debug this, but is banging my head against the brick wall. Any Sherlock Holmes tips would be highly | 12:55 |
| isene | welcome. | 12:55 |
| pmjdebruijn | have you tried powertop to see what's draining your power? | 12:57 |
| balticsunrise | hi i'm struggling to diagnose a bug on jaunty here... i consistently get a packagekitd lock error when running apt update, which can be suppressed by restarting the service yet reoccurs on reboot, and meanwhile...all HTTP/DNS requests always seem to fail but pinging IPs still works...(it was fine yesterday?) | 13:05 |
| balticsunrise | would appreciate anyone's thoughts, thanks! | 13:06 |
| ogra | balticsunrise, jaunty (9.04) is long out of support 🙂 | 13:08 |
| isene | Powertop used to give me consumptions in Watts per item, now it reports this: https://dpaste.com/E4VBZQNCN | 13:08 |
| balticsunrise | ogra: sorry, not enough coffee this morning... i meant to write jammy 22.04 | 13:08 |
| isene | pmjdebruijn: ^^ | 13:08 |
| ogra | 😄 | 13:09 |
| Linux^ | what does "deprecated" mean in simple language? | 13:10 |
| Linux^ | something is deprecated in kernel > 5.1 | 13:10 |
| ogra | out of support ... | 13:11 |
| ogra | obsolete ... | 13:11 |
| Linux^ | obsolete but still works? | 13:11 |
| Linux^ | if I enable it, it will work? | 13:11 |
| Linux^ | Like windows 7 is out of support but still works | 13:11 |
| ogra | if you get such a warning it often means it will be completely dropped soon but can still be used | 13:12 |
| rob0 | what in particular are you asking about? | 13:12 |
| Linux^ | bbrplus | 13:12 |
| ogra | yeah, conext would help | 13:12 |
| Linux^ | bbrplus (deprecated in v5.1+) | 13:12 |
| Linux^ | so its not available in kernel 5.4? | 13:13 |
| Linux^ | https://github.com/KozakaiAya/TCP_BBR | 13:14 |
| isene | pmjdebruijn: You saw the powertop report? Makes any sense to you? | 13:16 |
| pmjdebruijn | isene: I don't think I did, but you probably need to keep powertop running over a longer period of time | 13:29 |
| pmjdebruijn | Linux^: generally speaking you should be weary of loading external stuff into your kernel, even when stuff isn't "deprecated" | 13:29 |
| Linux^ | ik okay with it because its a test bench | 13:30 |
| Linux^ | I am checking network performance and brr helps a LOOOT | 13:30 |
| isene | pmjdebruijn: Yup. It seems so. I will report back when the number of measurements have reached the needed level. | 13:35 |
| SteelRose | Replying to myself: Motes is capable of opening OneNote files | 13:48 |
| iomari891 | greetings, when I copy text in mouse mode, how can I scroll while I copy to copy more than 1 page in my scrollback buffer. | 13:52 |
| iomari891 | s/./? | 13:52 |
| ablyss | iomari891 hold down the shift key or control key ? | 13:55 |
| iomari891 | ablyss: shift key does not scroll pst current page | 14:18 |
| iomari891 | past | 14:18 |
| iomari891 | ablyss: sorry, this was meant for the tmux thread. | 14:19 |
| Paddy_NI | Hey I have noticed that the "user menu" (I think that's what it's called) contains a power management setting now. However, it only has "balanced", or "Power Saver". Am I to understand that my PC is being contantly throttled in performance now that it's on balanced? | 14:19 |
| Paddy_NI | There is no performance mode | 14:19 |
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| tech_ | ? | 15:40 |
| tech_ | coucou | 15:40 |
| tech_ | hello ? | 15:40 |
| Guest2041 | bonsoir | 15:50 |
| oxfuxxx | english only please. | 15:51 |
| oxfuxxx | there's a -fr spinoff i guess. | 15:51 |
| odium | Are these channels active? I was wondering if I could ask to get some advice on installing onto zfs alongside windows but on a different drive entirely | 16:03 |
| enigma9o7[m] | This channel is active, if you describe the trouble you're having and what you're trying to do, you may get a reply. | 16:05 |
| enigma9o7[m] | But perhaps that would cause complications later, dunno. | 16:05 |
| enigma9o7[m] | If I were trying that, I'd just unplug the windows drive while I was installing ubuntu, just to avoid complications. | 16:05 |
| odium | I would but I am not sure I can reach it as there is one somewhere under the heatsink | 16:06 |
| odium | And one order the graphics card | 16:06 |
| odium | Hmm, that is good advice though | 16:07 |
| enigma9o7[m] | I was imagining a desktop when you mentioned multiple drives anyway. But anyways I dunno, maybe someone else has tried something like that, I dont use zfs or boot windows. | 16:08 |
| odium | Yes, the drives are nvme m2 drives 1tb and 256gb one is on the mobo, beneath the heatsink | 16:09 |
| lotuspsychje | !fr | Guest2041 | 16:10 |
| ubottu | Guest2041: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. | 16:10 |
| funnyawm | Hi | 16:14 |
| spacey | hwy , i got error while installing all distros based on debian and majaro Executing 'grub-install /dev/nvme0np1' failed , but worked out of the box for mint . could anyone help me to find out why mint worked , and how i can mimic the saame for ubuntu or pop os . ik its something not annoy you , but i have been trying for over 6 months and not able to solve | 16:14 |
| funnyawm | I got errors while using Automathemely | 16:15 |
| funnyawm | I received an error message saying I don't have python3.6 | 16:15 |
| funnyawm | So I created a link to python3.8 | 16:15 |
| funnyawm | And error occured | 16:15 |
| funnyawm | Traceback (most recent call last): | 16:16 |
| funnyawm | File "/usr/local/bin/automathemely", line 6, in <module> | 16:16 |
| funnyawm | from pkg_resources import load_entry_point | 16:16 |
| funnyawm | File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 3254, in <module> | 16:16 |
| funnyawm | def _initialize_master_working_set(): | 16:16 |
| funnyawm | File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 3237, in _call_aside | 16:16 |
| lotuspsychje | !paste | funnyawm | 16:16 |
| ubottu | funnyawm: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 16:16 |
| enigma9o7[m] | hmmm `python3` should just use whatever python you have | 16:16 |
| enigma9o7[m] | Did you perhaps install the bionic pacakge on a newer distro? | 16:18 |
| funnyawm | Maybe | 16:19 |
| funnyawm | Who knows | 16:19 |
| funnyawm | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KWVzMzhQXN/ | 16:19 |
| ogra | you cnat just link the interpreter | 16:19 |
| ogra | *can't | 16:19 |
| funnyawm | Okay | 16:19 |
| funnyawm | I see | 16:19 |
| funnyawm | So what to do? | 16:19 |
| ogra | a python installation consists of a ton of extra modules in dist-packages and site-packages that ar versioned | 16:20 |
| funnyawm | Okay | 16:20 |
| lotuspsychje | !partitioning | spacey maybe this can set you in the right direction? | 16:20 |
| ubottu | spacey maybe this can set you in the right direction?: For help with partitioning a new install see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition | For partitioning programs, see !GParted (recommended) or !PartitionManager. Other partitioning topics include !fstab, !home, and !swap | 16:20 |
| ogra | (and severaö bits of setup like PYTHONPATH and such that are compiled nto the interpreter | 16:20 |
| ogra | *several | 16:20 |
| funnyawm | Okay | 16:21 |
| funnyawm | One more question | 16:23 |
| funnyawm | How to convert Windows cursor to Linux | 16:23 |
| lotuspsychje | pick a windows theme funnyawm :p | 16:24 |
| funnyawm | Umm | 16:24 |
| funnyawm | I mean | 16:24 |
| funnyawm | I've got a Windows cursor pack | 16:24 |
| funnyawm | Which is full of .cur files | 16:25 |
| funnyawm | How to convert it to something that Linux can use | 16:25 |
| Maik | https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1084938/ | 16:25 |
| funnyawm | OK | 16:25 |
| funnyawm | I'll take a look | 16:25 |
| funnyawm | I didn't mean that bro XDDD | 16:27 |
| lotuspsychje | im sure there are .cur converters out there funnyawm | 16:27 |
| funnyawm | Yeah | 16:28 |
| funnyawm | That's what I'm looking for | 16:28 |
| lotuspsychje | funnyawm: something like; https://pypi.org/project/win2xcur/ | 16:29 |
| funnyawm | Thanks bro | 16:29 |
| funnyawm | You really help me a lot | 16:30 |
| funnyawm | 12 am in China | 16:32 |
| funnyawm | I'm gonna to sleep | 16:32 |
| pavlushka | kenvandine here? | 16:44 |
| lotuspsychje | what can we do for you pavlushka | 16:45 |
| pavlushka | lotuspsychje: sorry pmed you about that | 16:47 |
| lotuspsychje | best to ask here in public pavlushka | 16:47 |
| pavlushka | lotuspsychje: kilos was trying to give some guy edit rights to wiki to apply for membership | 16:47 |
| pavlushka | if it does anything to do with this https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-wiki-editors team then that person needs to be approved | 16:48 |
| pavlushka | these two person, https://launchpad.net/~mapreri and https://launchpad.net/~dd3my | 16:53 |
| pavlushka | *S | 16:53 |
| lotuspsychje | pavlushka: can this help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide | 16:54 |
| lotuspsychje | pavlushka: will these users be wiki editing or help translate? | 16:56 |
| pavlushka | lotuspsychje: for creating their profile to apply for membership | 16:57 |
| pavlushka | Ubuntu membership | 16:58 |
| lotuspsychje | !membership | pavlushka | 16:58 |
| ubottu | pavlushka: Ubuntu Membership means recognition of a significant and sustained contribution to Ubuntu and the Ubuntu community. For more info see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/NewMember | 16:58 |
| ogra | pavlushka, ken is on a plane, i guss you will need to wait a bit more (assuming you applied for team membrship in the wiki-editors team) | 16:59 |
| pavlushka | ogra: I am a member, the cloak is not activated for some reason :) | 17:01 |
| ogra | pavlushka, well, still, ken wont approve people atm until he is back on a normal PC again i suspect | 17:01 |
| ogra | i see dd3my and mapreri are already pendig | 17:02 |
| ogra | +n | 17:02 |
| pavlushka | ogra: I'll convey the message and ty for the info | 17:02 |
| pavlushka | ogra: found the reason why I am not cloaked, not enlisted here, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc-cloaks | 17:16 |
| kryten | pavlushka: Did you even re-apply for the membership cloak after the move to Libera a year ago? In either case, you may do so now in #ubuntu-irc | 17:18 |
| pavlushka | kryten: heyla, nope | 17:18 |
| pavlushka | didn't thought that it could exist but it does, https://launchpad.net/~dholbach-huggers | 17:22 |
| ogra | too sad dholbach isnt really active anymore in ubuntu | 17:25 |
| pavlushka | the last hug dholbach received around 2019-11-23 according to that team | 17:28 |
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| ogra | well, i dont think he has been arund after 2016 | 17:30 |
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| Sven_vB | hi :) I'm using xfce on Ubuntu focal, and I'd like to resize windows by dragging their borders, but my aim is too bad. Is there a way to extend them outwards when a pointer is near them? or maybe attach a border drag icon or sth. | 17:38 |
| Sven_vB | alternatively, can I somehow force all window borders to have at least 2px width? | 17:39 |
| pmjdebruijn | Sven_vB: Alt+RightClick Drag works well | 17:40 |
| Sven_vB | pmjdebruijn, thanks! | 17:40 |
| pmjdebruijn | takes a bit of getting used to | 17:40 |
| Sven_vB | nah, I managed to do it first try | 17:40 |
| Sven_vB | Except I use Hyper as my window move key but I guessed correctly that you mean that. | 17:40 |
| pmjdebruijn | oh it's easy sure... I meant to get acustom to new habbits | 17:41 |
| Sven_vB | now that I know the trick, I'm instead considering whether I want window borders at all. :D | 17:41 |
| Sven_vB | a few moments ago I couldn't understand how Epiphany devs would even get the idea to have no left/bottom/right window borders at all. | 17:42 |
| Sven_vB | the new way is so much superior, because I can have the cursor a bit away from the edge, i.e. the cursor no longer blocks my view when aiming the edge | 17:43 |
| pmjdebruijn | Sven_vB: it's better when you know, but it's less intuitive, so gain some loose some :) | 17:54 |
| Sven_vB | that's true for lots of stuff in Ubuntu. once you discover it, you're amazed how easy your life could have been all along. | 17:56 |
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| Glitch2754 | What would you say are some cons of Ubuntu? | 18:04 |
| ogra | !ot | 18:07 |
| ubottu | #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 18:07 |
| Glitch2754 | Oh didn't know this was the support channel lol | 18:08 |
| Glitch2754 | sorry | 18:08 |
| WeeBey99 | Hi frens. Could someone kindly verify if their nmap in 22.04 is working properly? I'm getting results that are not what I get from other computers, vm machines, or web services that provide nmap scanning. For instance, my server shows all ports open. but on a PopOs VM, it shows as all closed except 443 and 22 | 18:22 |
| lotuspsychje | WeeBey99: yes, used it today | 18:26 |
| WeeBey99 | lotuspsychje, Ok! thank you. Something is fishy with my environment then. So strange. | 18:27 |
| lotuspsychje | WeeBey99: whats your endgoal, hardening your systems? or connect some services? | 18:30 |
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| WeeBey99 | lotuspsychje, I had set up a firewall on top of a server that seemed to be working. Then I ran nmap to verify. Showed all ports as open, but in practice, firewall was working. SO I added UFW rules to double check and it still showed all ports open. At which point I wondered if nmap was failing. It was indeed. | 18:32 |
| WeeBey99 | Long way of saying, verifying that hardening had taken place. | 18:32 |
| lotuspsychje | WeeBey99: wich nmap scan command did you run? | 18:33 |
| WeeBey99 | $nmap ip, $nmap domain, $nmap -n, $nmap -p 21, etc | 18:34 |
| WeeBey99 | same commands show accurate information on other machines. | 18:34 |
| lotuspsychje | i usualy scan -PN -sV WeeBey99 | 18:36 |
| lotuspsychje | but you could try #networking or #netfilter to investigate more on your network side | 18:36 |
| WeeBey99 | The fellas at #networking helped. It just seems like a mystery. A vm with same IP as my ubuntu host got accurate results. So I tried the nmap binary from that vm on ubuntu and i got inaccurate results. So I'm stumped. :D | 18:37 |
| lotuspsychje | another nice investigating package is 'lynis' WeeBey99 | 18:41 |
| lotuspsychje | !info lynis | WeeBey99 | 18:42 |
| ubottu | WeeBey99: lynis (3.0.7-1, jammy): security auditing tool for Unix based systems. In component universe, is optional. Built by lynis. Size 222 kB / 1,612 kB | 18:42 |
| WeeBey99 | oh awesome. Ok, i'll try this. Thanks lotuspsychje | 18:42 |
| isene | pmjdebruijn: Here's the crazy power consumption reported by powertop (while all tuneables are set to "Good"): | 18:53 |
| isene | 12.6 W 100,0% Radio device: iwlwifi | 18:54 |
| isene | 9.22 W 100,0% Radio device: asus-nb-wmi | 18:54 |
| isene | 4.51 W 3,3 pkts/s Network interface: wlo1 (iwlwifi) | 18:54 |
| isene | How do I make them behave? | 18:54 |
| isene | Any tips from anyone on lowering power consumption on these three would be close to fantastic | 19:00 |
| matsaman | isene: is that higher than they should be? | 19:03 |
| matsaman | you could maybe get by without asus-nb-wmi altogether, but wifi is pretty core to a laptop usually | 19:04 |
| isene | matsaman: I have a total of 40W power drain while on battery - I had 9W total before i messed something up. The three above are the main culprits - and 12.6W for iwlwifi is way more than the total before my fuckup. What is the asus-nb-wmi? | 19:06 |
| jelly | which firefox build should I use on bionic? security repo is still on 99.0 from April. | 19:07 |
| matsaman | isene: hardware bits particular to the model/line of laptop, like light controls and special hotkeys | 19:07 |
| matsaman | jelly: whichever? | 19:08 |
| matsaman | isene: do you know around when you messed something up? | 19:08 |
| matsaman | isene: changed your kernel maybe? | 19:08 |
| jelly | matsaman, they're not the same version. | 19:08 |
| matsaman | it's pretty unlikely the specific version is going to matter to you, isn't it? | 19:09 |
| jelly | matsaman, security fixes kind of matter to me, this is why I'm asking | 19:09 |
| matsaman | 99 is pretty recent, that seems like the easy choice | 19:10 |
| jelly | except upstream released 99.0.1 2-3 weeks ago, and 100.0 yesterday | 19:10 |
| jelly | snap is at 99.0.1 | 19:10 |
| matsaman | upstream is going to be ahead of downstream most of the time | 19:10 |
| matsaman | for most apps | 19:10 |
| matsaman | especially ultra-mega-fast release apps like browsers | 19:11 |
| matsaman | you can thank Google for that nonsense | 19:11 |
| matsaman | (for browsers in particular) | 19:11 |
| matsaman | upstream builds just aren't going to be as good, either | 19:11 |
| matsaman | and that no doubt includes snaps | 19:11 |
| jelly | matsaman, do you think lagging a month behind upstream for a web browser build is acceptable? | 19:12 |
| matsaman | jelly: yup | 19:13 |
| matsaman | if there were a serious security issue, it would be bumped | 19:13 |
| matsaman | although given that, you might indeed want the ESR version | 19:13 |
| jelly | I'll wait a couple more days to see if fixes from https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2022-16/ appear via apt or snap. | 19:15 |
| jelly | matsaman, ESR version from which source? | 19:15 |
| matsaman | dunno, I don't even really see firefox esr in Ubuntu's repos | 19:15 |
| matsaman | you? | 19:15 |
| isene | matsaman: I didn't change any kernel (I'm on latest 22.04). I ran my powerscript that I used successfully on my previous laptop (Dell XPS15) and then it went from 9W to 40W...: https://dpaste.com/9XPSF5CHN | 19:15 |
| jelly | matsaman, why are you suggesting it then? | 19:16 |
| isene | Trying to walk stuff back, but cannot seem to nail it | 19:16 |
| matsaman | jelly: it should be there =P | 19:16 |
| matsaman | here's what a sane distro has: https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/www-client/firefox-bin | 19:16 |
| jelly | I'm asking for help with Ubuntu not Gentoo, tho | 19:16 |
| isene | I also ran slimbookbattery - don't know if it was that either | 19:17 |
| matsaman | I know. Doesn't look like Ubuntu cares much about Firefox. | 19:17 |
| jelly | which is why I'm asking... | 19:17 |
| matsaman | yup. I think you're onto something | 19:17 |
| jelly | I know jammy only uses snap for firefox as it's been publicized widely, but even the snap build isn't up to date right now | 19:18 |
| jelly | and I have bionic installed right now. | 19:19 |
| michel | The snap comes from Mozilla directly right? I wonder what's the hold up | 19:21 |
| ogra | likely tests on the RPi | 19:21 |
| michel | On Fedora the hold up is often that builds on alternate architectures are slow and brittle | 19:21 |
| ogra | matsaman, jelly the snap has an esr channel ... see "snap info firefox" you can easily either switch the inetalled one to it or simply install it in parallel with the other snap (snaps allow as many parallel installs as you like) | 19:22 |
| matsaman | I don't know why snap distributors would be motivated to have things up-to-date, to be honest. | 19:25 |
| sarnold | funny, that's one of the selling points of snap, because they're so disconnected from the rest of the os, they can be updated to newer releases with less friction | 19:26 |
| leftyfb | matsaman: you're joking right? | 19:27 |
| isene | matsaman: Any ideas? | 19:27 |
| cablecat333 | If a person runs Ubuntu Mate on Raspberry Pi 4 B, is it possible to boot another OS from a USB? Does the way you boot from USB change based on OS? Or is this a question for an RPI help channel? | 19:27 |
| leftyfb | cablecat333: try #raspberrypi | 19:28 |
| cablecat333 | leftyfb: thank you for responding, I will go do that! Sorry to interrupt the current convo too. | 19:29 |
| Sven_vB | in my xfce on Ubuntu focal, there seems to be a key binding on Hyper+b that toggles the "bounce keys" feature from Accessibility -> Keyboard settings. where is that keybind defined, or how do I unbind it? | 19:29 |
| matsaman | leftyfb: nope. Are you joking? | 19:29 |
| jelly | there's a 100.0-2 in the snap latest/candidate channel. latest/candidate: 100.0-2 2022-05-02 (1300) 168MB - | 19:29 |
| leftyfb | matsaman: you don't know why software vendors would want their applications kept up to date? | 19:30 |
| jelly | I will however try flatpak first. | 19:30 |
| matsaman | leftyfb: not what I said | 19:30 |
| leftyfb | jelly: flatpak isn't officially supported by Ubuntu or here in this channel | 19:31 |
| jelly | leftyfb, it's supported by upstream. I need _someone_ to ship security fixes in a timely manner. | 19:31 |
| jelly | leftyfb, if it's not Canonical it might as well be Mozilla | 19:32 |
| leftyfb | jelly: snap should suffice then | 19:32 |
| leftyfb | jelly: Mozilla maintains the Firefox snap packages | 19:32 |
| jelly | leftyfb, I just explained snap is at 99.0.1 | 19:32 |
| leftyfb | jelly: ok, maybe ping Mozilla on what the holdup is | 19:32 |
| jelly | maybe I'll try using the build they support better. | 19:33 |
| jelly | I'm using Debian on other machines. Not a strangers to seeing distros lagging with browser builds. | 19:34 |
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| michaelrose | jelly: you use the mozilla ppa or can actually download an archive of firefox and unzip it to your home dir and run it from there. It also will self update. Either way gets you an updated browser | 19:51 |
| leftyfb | michaelrose: until Mozilla stops supporting the PPA | 19:54 |
| jhutchins | If you really need up-to-the-minute software, an internal update diecte from the source project is a good way to handle it. | 19:56 |
| michaelrose | leftyfb: you could honestly just use the archive version that self updates | 19:57 |
| jhutchins | Usually there's no need to integrate the installation with your OS. | 19:57 |
| leftyfb | support | 19:57 |
| michaelrose | realistically what support if firefox has a bug you are probably going to report it to mozilla and wait for them to fix it anyway | 19:58 |
| leftyfb | lol | 19:58 |
| jhutchins | Yeah, direct support from the project itself is usually a lot more knowledgable than second-hand support from a distro. | 19:58 |
| michaelrose | also firefox not from snap doesn't have interesting snap only problems | 19:59 |
| ogra | but thanks to snap confinement a security bug will be less harmful ... | 20:00 |
| michaelrose | interesting assumption | 20:00 |
| ogra | not an assumption | 20:00 |
| michaelrose | can you find one person ever who has documented a potential security breach in ANY application that has been stopped by snaps sandboxing? | 20:01 |
| ogra | malicious js code on a website will not be able to steal your email passwords from thunderbird ... | 20:01 |
| ogra | or grab your libreoffice baking spreadsheets | 20:01 |
| ogra | heh | 20:01 |
| ogra | *banking indeed | 20:01 |
| michaelrose | I was kind of curious if you were worried about your secret recipes leaking there kernel sanders | 20:02 |
| leftyfb | michaelrose: jhutchins: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/XvwfZksXRs/ mentions of "firefox" per month since June | 20:02 |
| ogra | some attacking code will also not be able to modify the firefox binary in any way ... | 20:02 |
| michaelrose | I think the only really effective sandboxing I've heard of is qubes which doesn't use containers for a reason | 20:03 |
| ogra | how deep have you looked into snap confinement yet to make judgement ? | 20:04 |
| ogra | *make a | 20:04 |
| ogra | (either way, i think this is getting offtopic, so i'll stop ...) | 20:05 |
| jelly | michaelrose, I will try the ppa next, as neither snap nor flatpak seem to be able to access the session, my tabs and other data from apt-installed firefox. | 20:05 |
| michaelrose | #ubuntu-offtopic | 20:05 |
| ogra | nah, too wild-west 🙂 i'm in -discuss though | 20:06 |
| leftyfb | pretty sure qubes is just based on xen which is using the same namespacing as containers .... so basically the same type of confinement | 20:06 |
| michaelrose | leftyfb: qubes uses different VMs | 20:06 |
| ogra | jelly, on 22.04 ? that wuld be a bug of the firefox deb (which cares for the importing of the profiles when installing the snap) | 20:06 |
| jelly | ogra, no, bionic | 20:07 |
| ogra | michaelrose, snaps use different ones too ... and everything is a gpg signed readonly squashfs ... tinker proof | 20:07 |
| ogra | jelly, ah ... | 20:07 |
| jelly | ogra, snap stable/candidate 100.0 -- doesn't import anything. flatpak -- doesn't import anything. | 20:08 |
| ogra | jelly, yeh, i think the deb that converts from deb to snap actually does the import in 22.04 | 20:08 |
| ogra | jelly, but simply copying your .mozilla dir into ~/snap/firefox/current / should be enough | 20:09 |
| jelly | and this wasn't ported to other LTS because...? | 20:09 |
| jelly | reasons | 20:09 |
| ogra | becauswe the old LTS still has a deb | 20:09 |
| jelly | ogra, the deb is a month old 99.0; there wasn't even a 99.0.1 at all | 20:10 |
| michaelrose | honestly unless you are an extremely high value target like you have millions in crypto you will likely suffer from a security vulnerability if you run something with old software with months/years old vulnerabilities not get pwned because your distro took a few days to go from 99 to 100 | 20:10 |
| ogra | jelly, yeah, has always been that way ... ubuntu supports more architectures ... building and testing simply takes longer | 20:10 |
| jelly | michaelrose, that's beside the point. | 20:10 |
| jelly | best practice is layers, then hope at least one layer holds. | 20:11 |
| jelly | ogra, 99.0.1 was out April 12. It never happened for bionic. | 20:12 |
| leftyfb | https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/99.0.1/releasenotes/ | 20:13 |
| leftyfb | zero security fixes in 99.0.1 | 20:13 |
| jelly | good point | 20:16 |
| michaelrose | in the release notes | 20:16 |
| jelly | I'll just go back to bionic-security and see if 100.0 appears in a week | 20:21 |
| matsaman | =) | 20:21 |
| jelly | quite surprised that neither snap not flatpak have enough permissions to access ~/.mozilla/firefox as-is | 20:23 |
| matsaman | they dumb | 20:23 |
| leftyfb | or there's valid reasons | 20:24 |
| jelly | firefox is firefox. | 20:24 |
| jelly | I could make a bind-mount wrapper to mount my stuff wherever snap wants it. This seems... unpolished. | 20:25 |
| matsaman | you aren't the first to notice =) | 20:25 |
| jelly | "mount --bind .mozilla snap/firefox/common/.mozilla" made the snap build work as expected | 20:36 |
| leftyfb | jelly: you probably want a full path in there if you're going to make it perm | 20:37 |
| jelly | if I want it permanent it will be a fstab entry, mount --bind only works for root | 20:42 |
| sarnold | I wonder if you could use bwrap to do the thing as a user and launch the browser that way | 20:43 |
| matsaman | I wonder if you could not use a snap =P | 20:44 |
| * matsaman giggles | 20:44 | |
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| Hash | Hi good morning | 21:53 |
| Hash | Do you have an official ubuntu method of installing ZFS mirror for 2x HDD? | 21:53 |
| Hash | I dont' want to trust some random website online | 21:53 |
| jil | hello | 21:54 |
| jil | I'm trying to run some android device inside a mint distribution using Android Virtual Device. | 21:54 |
| Hash | Mint != Ubuntu | 21:54 |
| Hash | Please visit the mint help resources. | 21:54 |
| jil | I'm runing an image of a nexus 6 with android 11. It works fine but when I try to install whatsapp I get the message "you don't have any device" | 21:54 |
| leftyfb | !mint | jil | 21:54 |
| ubottu | jil: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle) | 21:54 |
| jil | how can I install whatsapp on my virtual device ? | 21:54 |
| leftyfb | jil: that's not even a mint question | 21:55 |
| leftyfb | jil: try asking in an android channel | 21:55 |
| leftyfb | Hash: https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/setup-zfs-storage-pool#1-overview | 21:56 |
| Hash | ty | 21:56 |
| leftyfb | 2nd result on google for "ubuntu zfs mirror" | 21:56 |
| Hash | That's for an old version. I saw that. | 21:56 |
| Hash | Please, let's pretend we're all adults here. | 21:57 |
| Hash | I know how to google and I don't need you for that. | 21:57 |
| Hash | I come on irc when I can't find what I'm looking for. | 21:57 |
| leftyfb | where don't the step-by-step instructions apply? | 21:57 |
| Bashing-om | Hash: Any pointers here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS ? | 21:57 |
| Hash | I simply didn't consider it as it's for an old version years ago. | 21:57 |
| Hash | Ahh thnsk | 21:57 |
| Hash | Thanks* | 21:58 |
| leftyfb | Hash: that would be a problem with your assumptions, not the documentation | 21:58 |
| Hash | Regardless. I don't need people talking to condesendingly about using a search engine. You've spoken to me like this before, and thid strike I will put you in quiet mode. | 21:59 |
| leftyfb | Hash: sorry for pointing you to the exact documentation you were looking for an exactly how I found it. I'll do better next time | 22:00 |
| Hash | I won't be hearing from you any longer. Good day. | 22:00 |
| isene | Power consumption for iwlwifi is 21W (!) it should be around 2W. It worked fine after installing 22.04, but now (due to unknown reasons), it suddenly jumped to an insane level. I have TLP installed and iwconfig reports that powermanagement is on. Any clues? I'm out of sanity. | 22:07 |
| isene | Reinstall the whole of Ubuntu? | 22:18 |
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