[00:11] <zett> anyone how to change neofetch art?
[00:19] <Matt|home> alright. this is a little infuriating. im running into a massive issue (20.04.4 LTS) with dragging and dropping files into folders. i read up on it, and it supposedly had something to do with some experimental view - so i disabled it with the commandline arguments i was given, and im still having this issue. what the actual hell
[00:19] <sarnold> what bug number?
[00:20] <Matt|home> https://askubuntu.com/questions/973128/drag-and-drop-not-working-inside-nautilus-on-ubuntu-17-10 <-- this seems to be the issue im having, but i don't know for sure
[00:57] <Hash> Hi guys
[00:57] <Hash> Is there any known memory leak or soemthing in 2204?
[00:58] <Hash> I'm not using anything but a few apps, and I've got 64GB ram, and I'm alrady using 45GB of it.
[00:58] <Hash> How is this possible
[00:58] <leftyfb> look in htop
[01:01] <Hash> https://i.imgur.com/d6y2fOU.png
[01:01] <leftyfb> that's not htop
[01:02] <sarnold> Hash: https://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[01:02] <Hash> it's not that.
[01:03] <Hash> That I know.
[01:03] <leftyfb> this is why I suggested looking at htop
[01:03] <Hash> This is alarming to me as I've never seen this before. I've had this build for a year, 64GB ram, 5800x cpu
[01:03] <Hash> I've even with mulitiple 4GB vms running have never really gone over 40% used RAM
[01:03] <Hash> I upgraded to 22 a few days ago, and today I just noticed, my ram usage has jumped up and no apps are running.
[01:04] <Hash> I checked buffer/cache
[01:04] <Hash> I mean. I'm kind of alarmed. Please help/advise
[01:04] <leftyfb> then open up htop and see what is using ram. Also, how are you determining 45G being used?
[01:05] <leftyfb> also KDE
[01:05] <leftyfb> 1GB worth of text files open with kate
[01:05] <Hash>                total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
[01:05] <Hash> Mem:            62Gi        45Gi       516Mi       485Mi        16Gi        16Gi
[01:05] <leftyfb> !paste | Hash
[01:05] <Hash> used 45. It should not be using 45G of ram
[01:05] <Hash> Oh
[01:06] <Hash> Ok. It was only two lines so I thought it is ok
[01:06] <leftyfb> what does htop show you for what is actually being used?
[01:11] <leftyfb> I'm gonna go with you've got large files opened, probably in kate which are being cached to disk as per sarnold's link
[01:41] <enigma9o7[m]> You have no swap?
[01:42] <leftyfb> swap has nothing to do with it
[01:42] <enigma9o7[m]> What does htop say, same number as free?
[01:43] <enigma9o7[m]> I'm mainly just curious, but with htop or any decent system monitor tool you should be able to see what's holding that memory neway.
[01:44] <sarnold> yeah it's strange to not have swap, but without any of the requested information, it's all just guessing, and there's no point in guessing if he doesn't want to answer questions
[01:44] <leftyfb> sarnold: they both have me on ignore :)
[01:44] <sarnold> leftyfb: rofl that'd explain it
[01:44] <leftyfb> :)
[01:45] <leftyfb> also, with 64GB of memory, you really shouldn't need swap. If you're swapping after 64G of memory, you're doing something wrong
[01:46] <sarnold> heh, I've got 128G in one machine and that's still nowhere close to enough..
[01:47] <leftyfb> you're doing bad things to your computer then :)
[01:47] <sarnold> the *worst* things
[01:49] <oops> after installing  chinese language , i can't select chinese language from language support menu, the chinese language is in menus but it's gray, how to fix it
[01:50] <leftyfb> oops: tried rebooting?
[01:51] <oops> my os is 22.04 and it is upgraded from 20.04
[01:51] <oops> leftyfb: let me try rebooting firstly
[04:05] <devslash> Is there a way to remove grub and only boot windows from my grub dual boot
[04:06] <alkisg> And how would you boot ubuntu in the future?
[04:06] <devslash> I won't on this computer
[04:07] <devslash> But it seems impossible to remove grub
[04:07] <alkisg> Is this UEFI or BIOS mode?
[04:08] <devslash> Uefi
[04:08] <alkisg> You can just go to your UEFI settings and put Windows first then
[04:08] <alkisg> Grub won't appear anymore at all
[04:09] <alkisg> Or you can boot from a live cd, go to the uefi partition, and remove the ubuntu files/directories from there
[04:09] <devslash> I'm in fhere now
[04:10] <alkisg> In the uefi settings or in the efi partition?
[04:10] <devslash> Dunno I'm in a command prompt I'm recovery
[04:10] <alkisg> Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to reboot, then press Del to enter UEFI settings
[04:11] <alkisg> In the UEFI (BIOS) settings, go to boot sequence, and put windows first
[04:12] <devslash> I fixed it thanks
[04:12] <devslash> I think
[04:13] <devslash> Oh no
[04:13] <devslash> If I disconnect either drive it doesn't boot windows
[04:13] <alkisg> That sounds like a windows problem, that you put the efi partition in the other drive than your windows partition
[04:14] <devslash> Maybe does that matter
[04:14] <devslash> Does that mean I news to reinstall windows
[04:14] <alkisg> Probably; you'll need to ask in a #windows channel for that
[04:24] <supremekai> hey guys, what would be the best ubuntu distro for a web server?
[04:51] <bobdobbs> I'm using kde plasma desktop on Ubuntu 20.04. About once every 24 hours the bar that holds the launchers and clock crashes. It still displays, but the graphics don't update.
[04:52] <bobdobbs> I first notice it when I look at the clock, and the clock is stuck on a time from a few hours ago. The launchers in the bar still respond, but I have to guess where they are.
[04:54] <bobdobbs> I'd switch to gnome, but gnome just doesn't launch: if I select it from the login screen the login screen changes state for a few seconds and then returns to it's initial state.
[04:54] <bobdobbs> I'd be happy to get either desktop environment to work
[05:55] <Maik> ice9: re gnome extensions... which browser are you using, Firefox?
[05:56] <ice9> Maik, i found that the reason is snap, but if browser is installed from apt, it works fine
[05:57] <Maik> ice9: indeed, howeverthere's no apt version of Firefox
[05:57] <Maik> not in 22.04 at least
[05:58] <Mibix>  i can not figure out why i cant select this flatpak version of dolphin as my default file manager
[07:02] <nightBulb>  Greetings people, I recently upgraded to Ubuntu 22.04 on a Laptop, problem is, the laptop no longer wakes up by touchpad interaction, have to press the power button to wake it up.
[07:02] <nightBulb> Just to clarify, sleep and wakeup are working fine, but
[07:02] <nightBulb> touchpad interaction to wake no longer works ...
[08:09] <Guest99> hi all
[08:10] <Guest99> anyone here?, i have a small doubt on ubuntu 18.04 LTS
[08:10] <Hash> Hi, sorry I just got back. Let me see
[08:10] <Hash> It's probably easier to reply on matrix
[08:11] <Guest99> Hash, you were taking to me?
[08:11] <Guest99> talking*
[08:11] <Hash> No
[08:11] <Guest99> ok, sorry
 "What does htop say, same..." <- Yes
 "I'm mainly just curious, but..." <- Strangely enough, I can't seem to find anything.
[08:14] <Hash> Guest99: what's up?
[08:15] <Guest99> Hash:, hi, i have ubuntu 18.04 and using it for the office works.. i got a red triangle with an exclamation mark on the top right..
[08:15] <Guest99> next to the wifi icon
[08:16] <Guest99> which i click it, it says like my updates are out of date..  but it does not allow me to update it,. like the update option is disabled..
[08:16] <Guest99> should i worry about that exclamation mark?
[08:16] <Hash> hmm
[08:16] <Hash> sec
[08:17] <Hash> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[08:17] <Hash> It's supported until 2024
[08:17] <Hash> It's supported until 2023*
[08:17] <Hash> EOL at 2028 so you have some time
[08:17] <Hash> ok, so I don't actually use Ubuntu
[08:18] <Hash> I use Ubuntu the distribution with Xmonad and KDE panels, but not actually Ubuntu
[08:18] <Hash> I always download Kubuntu and get Xmonad. So I don't use Ubuntu and I have no idea about the gui
[08:18] <Hash> What I can do is help you update your system using command line
[08:18] <Hash> So, figure out how to 1) open a terminal window
[08:18] <Guest99> i tried updating using command line..
[08:19] <Hash> 2) in the terminal window type `sudo apt-get update` or `sudo apt update`
[08:19] <Guest99> FYI, i am just over a beginner, so, you may directly say the commands :)
[08:19] <Hash> Once your system has updated package lists, then you can type, `sudo apt-get upgrade`
[08:19] <Hash> No problem
[08:19] <Guest99> i tried those commands.. and it completed without any error
[08:19] <Hash> First do step 1, then 2, and then let me know what happens.
[08:20] <Hash> Great!
[08:20] <Hash> What about the last command
[08:20] <Guest99> the last command also completed without any error
[08:20] <Guest99> then the triangle disappeard.. but it reappears when i reboot my machine
[08:21] <Hash> Hmm.
[08:21] <Hash> I don't know this triangle.
[08:21] <Guest99> so, from the years that u mentioned.. i guess i need not to worry about the support, i think atleast i have one more year.. am i right?
[08:21] <Hash> Why not install 22.04 ubuntu
[08:22] <Hash> I just reinstalled my OS a few days ago
[08:22] <Guest99> i cannot install latest one, because of the proprietary tools that these office people gave me'
[08:22] <Hash> Ok
[08:22] <Guest99> thank you Hash
[08:23] <Hash> try this
[08:23] <Hash> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, and copy paste into pastebin what it wants to do
[08:34] <freakyy85> how can i keep ssh connections alive in 22.04?
[08:34] <freakyy85> serverside
[08:50] <ravage> the connection should not just die
[08:52] <depesz> Hi. I upgraded ubuntu, and it's forcing me to install firefox from snaps. and to top it - it fails with: "Run configure hook of "firefox" snap if present (run hook "configure": cannot create temporary directory for the root file system: Permission denied)" - any idea on what could that be?
[08:54] <jchittum> depesz: the snap is strictly confined. if it's getting a permission denied, it's due to a missing plug or permission in the snap itself
[08:54] <depesz> jchittum: i never used snaps. would prefer not to, but apparently with new ubuntu you can't have normal deb-based firefox.
[08:54] <depesz> so, what could have I done that it doesn't work?
[08:55] <ravage> depesz, the upgrade is done?
[08:56] <depesz> it ended with error. which was - installing firefox snap
[08:56] <depesz> i rebooted, ran apt-get update/ upgrade, and it always fails on firefox.
[08:56] <depesz> i tried apt-get remove firefox, install, snap install firefox, and it fails every single time
[08:57] <depesz> so, I straced snapd process, and it seems it can't mkdir in /tmp (which on my system is symlink
[08:57] <ravage> is your home directory in a non standard location?
[08:57] <depesz> home yes, mostly. tmp not.
[08:57] <ravage> ok or your tmp dir
[08:57] <alkisg> depesz: you can keep using firefox from the mozillateam ppa if you like, see last comment in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1962021
[08:58] <ravage> snaps have very strict confinements
[08:58] <ravage> i think the tmp dir may not be available from the snap
[08:58] <depesz> ravage: ok. how can I let snaps use more directories?
[08:58] <ravage> you would have to mess with the apparmor profile i guess
[08:58] <depesz> i tried to use spotify from snap once, but it was not able to reach data mounted in /media (and not in /home)
[08:59] <depesz> can I disable the whole apparmor thing somehow?
[08:59] <ravage> but i never really did modify anthing in it
[08:59] <ravage> maybe just go without the snap
[08:59] <ravage> see what alkisg.
[09:00] <ravage> a lot of people did that already. seems to work just fine
[09:01] <jchittum> you don't need to do apparmour. there's a specific connection you can enable...one sec to let me dig a bit
[09:01] <jchittum> but i'm not sure how to do that _preinstallationa_
[09:01] <depesz> yeah. did it. i.e. installed firefox from debs from mozilla team. I would be SO MUCH HAPPIER if ubuntu didn't force snap down my throat
[09:02] <ravage> you are not alone. but it is what it is
[09:04] <ogra> depesz, "sudo snap connect spotify:removable-media" gives your ansp access to /mdia and /mnt
[09:04] <ogra> s/ansp/snap/
[09:04] <ogra> */media
[09:05] <ogra> debuse the tarball if you dont like the snap ... this is linux, there is choice, nobody forces you to use the snap ...
[09:05] <ogra> (dont use the PPA though, that will likely stop to function at some point and just not update anymore)
[09:07] <depesz> ogra: thanks. will check if if I will be able to learn how to get snaps to work
[09:08] <depesz> ogra: well, ubuntu is forcing me by removing firefox from normal apt. i know I can add repo. i did. but, by default, apt-get will install snap version of the software.
[09:08] <ogra> depesz, "snap help" and "snap help <command>" are pretty helpful
[09:09] <ogra> depesz, mozilla asked for moving to snap and wants the debs gone ... (which is why i think the PPA will stop beng updated eventually) ...
[09:09] <ogra> depesz, people that have the deb somehow need to get to the snap, thus there is a deb that converts you ... there is no other clean way to get people switched over ...
[09:10] <ogra> you can always uninstall the deb (and snap) and just go with the firefox tarball
[09:10] <depesz> i kinda get it. my frustration comes from: "it doesn't work for me, and fixing it is not obvious"
[09:10] <ogra> yeah, th extra security comes at some cost sadly
[09:14] <ogra> btw, this might be interesting (and a good place to report inconsistencies you find, to potentially get them fixd if possible) https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/known-issues-with-firefox-snap/24663
[09:22] <jchittum> i tried to repro the installation, and I couldn't (using an lxc container). Wondering if it's a root issue (though i thought `snap install` would ask for password and run privileged)
[09:24] <ogra> it usually does .... you either need to "snap login" or it will ask for using sudo ... i think lxd containers drop that check though
[09:26] <jchittum> I did just notice something interesting for Firefox. I was unable to do downloads. Somehow /$HOME/Downloads/firefox.tmp had it's permissions changed, and my user no longer had access. I wonder if something similar is happening during configuration at some points?
[09:27] <jchittum> so not just a snap connection issue, but a directory / file permission issue
[09:30] <ogra> yeah, that could be
[09:31] <ogra> should be rwx only for the user (and user/group owned) ...
[09:31] <jchittum> I lost write access somehow
[09:34] <jchittum> it was set to something odd...definitely not $USER +rwx.
[09:35] <gebbione> Sometime one of my monitors is not working at start up, works after a restart but that is annoying. Here is some output from the journal  ... Can you spot what might be going on? https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/8vxZjgSmNR/
[09:36] <gebbione> i tried restarting lightdm too
[09:36] <gebbione> but that fails
[10:07] <oxfuxxx> gebbione try xrandr you may be able to activate it from here, then you could put the xrandr command line at startup if it works.
[10:48] <family> hello
[10:51] <serhat> Hey guys, there is a problem with my ubuntu 22.04 jammy jellyfish. I upgraded from 20.04 a week ago. The problem is my applications shut down unexpectedly and after restarting the apps, it continues to work from where the interception took place. For examle if i had vscode running and it suddenly shuts down, i rerun the app and it continues from where it is left.
[10:52] <serhat> An example of log messages right after my 2 vscode apps shut down :
[10:52] <serhat> 13:47:35 gnome-shell: Could not create transient scope for PID 0: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.systemd1.UnitExists: Unit app-gnome-org.gnome.Logs-0.scope already exists.
[10:52] <serhat> 13:47:34 dbus-daemon: [session uid=1000 pid=27194] Successfully activated service 'org.gnome.Logs'
[10:52] <serhat> 13:47:34 nautilus: Connecting to org.freedesktop.Tracker3.Miner.Files
[10:52] <serhat> 13:47:34 systemd: Started GNOME Terminal Server.
[10:52] <serhat> 13:47:34 dbus-daemon: [session uid=1000 pid=27194] Successfully activated service 'org.gnome.Terminal'
[11:05] <serhat> are there anyone to help ?
[11:29] <bertieb> Hey folks, I was round last night trying to get a fresh 22.04 budgie to boot on a Wyse 7020 but was having weird UEFI/legacy issues
[11:30] <bertieb> via livecd I've got bootx64.efi in the fallback location; and a copy of it in /boot/efi/EFI/microsoft/boot/bootmgrfw.efi -- anywhere / anything else I should have?
[11:31] <EriC^> bertieb: hey, it's ../boot/bootmgfw.efi
[11:31] <EriC^> (minus the r)
[11:31] <bertieb> EriC^: ah yes, typo
[11:31] <EriC^> bertieb: are you in the live cd right now?
[11:31] <bertieb> (in IRC, not the path ^_^)
[11:32] <bertieb> EriC^: yup
[11:32] <EriC^> ah cool
[11:32] <EriC^> bertieb: ok, type 'sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999'
[11:32] <bertieb> sure, that doesn't resolve from the chroot so lemme just check resolv.conf
[11:33] <EriC^> bertieb: you could 'sudo mount -B /run /mnt/run'  outside the chroot
[11:34] <bertieb> https://termbin.com/atmo -- it shows some extra weirdness that arose today- when I disabled the ubuntu entry (to boot via PXE) it duplicated and enabled the entry
[11:35] <bertieb> the file the ubuntu entry references- shimx64.efi is present at EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi
[11:36] <EriC^^> bertieb: looks good, try 'ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999' and try 'sudo blkid /dev/sdxY' where sdxY is your efi partition
[11:36] <EriC^^> look at PARTUUID confirm it's 3544be48-95fd-44cd-99a1-064c0b8e9a8f
[11:37] <bertieb> EriC^^: https://termbin.com/t8hxh and aye the EFI PARTUUID matches
[11:38] <bobdobbs> I'll be setting up a new machine next week. I'll want to dual boot between windows and linux. Which OS should I give control of the MBR?
[11:38] <bertieb> (ignore the nc in the EFI dir, had a > instead of a pipe)
[11:38] <EriC^^> bobdobbs: ubuntu
[11:38] <bobdobbs> hai EriC^^
[11:38] <EriC^^> bertieb: looking good, what was the sdxY you used?
[11:39] <bobdobbs> EriC^^: any particular reason why?
[11:39] <bertieb> EFI partition is sda1
[11:39] <EriC^^> bertieb: im thinking just for kicks to add a fake windows entry since the old one seems to still be using the mbr one
[11:39] <EriC^^> bertieb: sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\ubuntu\\shimx64.efi -L "Windows" -p 1 -d /dev/sda
[11:39] <EriC^^> err
[11:40] <EriC^^> bertieb: sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\microsoft\\boot\\bootmgfw.efi -L "Windows" -p 1 -d /dev/sda
[11:40] <bertieb> EriC^^: will do! does that replace the extant one?
[11:41] <EriC^^> bertieb: dont think so, we can try to delete it and the extra ubuntu one
[11:41] <bertieb> Okay cool
[11:41] <EriC^^> bertieb: sudo efibootmgr -B -b 0001
[11:41] <bertieb> let me just enable sshd
[11:41] <EriC^^> bertieb: sudo efibootmgr -B -b 0002
[11:41] <bertieb> cause I know I'm gonna mistype one of these
[11:42] <dirtcastle> sensor-detect command not found after downloading fancontrol?
[11:43] <dirtcastle> and lm-sensors
[11:43] <EriC^^> !find sensor-detect
[11:43] <dirtcastle> do u guys have experience with fancontrol?
[11:43] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: i have a 'sensors-detect' file from lm-sensors
[11:44] <dirtcastle> u need a file?
[11:44] <EriC^^> no i mean the binary
[11:44] <dirtcastle> do u know where to find documentation abt this.
[11:44] <ogra> dirtcastle, it is sensor'S' ... not sensor
[11:44] <dirtcastle> aah.
[11:44] <EriC^^> dirtcastle: what does 'which sensors-detect' give you?
[11:45] <dirtcastle> it gives nothing
[11:45] <dirtcastle> ogra: corrected. i downloaded the package.
[11:45] <dirtcastle> seaaah
[11:45] <dirtcastle> got it
[11:46] <dirtcastle> sensor's' - detect
[11:47] <ogra> 🙂
[11:47] <bertieb> EriC^^: changes made via efibootmgr (https://termbin.com/cqtb)
[11:47] <bertieb> anything else I can do while booted into live environment ? :)
[11:47] <dirtcastle> how to write config for fancontrol now.
[11:48] <EriC^^> bertieb: that's about it, try to see if you get grub
[11:48] <bertieb> 👍
[11:48] <bertieb> here's hoping :)
[11:48] <EriC^^> :)
[11:48] <ogra> dirtcastle, https://askubuntu.com/questions/53762/how-to-use-lm-sensors
[11:50] <bertieb> interesting- it complained about not being able to find the efi images
[11:50] <bertieb> both windows and grubx64
[11:52] <bertieb> ending with "start_image() returned Not Found"
[11:54] <EriC^^> aha bertieb ive had a similar thing, sort of
[11:54] <EriC^^> bertieb: try to copy grubx64.efi into /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/grubx64.efi
[11:54] <EriC^^> might as well throw it into /boot/efi/efi/boot too
[11:55] <bertieb> will do! just having a look at secure boot as that's the second tie I've sen an askubuntu QA reference it, but it's disabled
[11:59] <glick> hi does anyone know how to enable remote access to mariadb on ubuntu?
[11:59] <glick> im following documentation but its confusing and not working
[12:00] <bobdobbs> glick: I don't think that that's an OS-specific thing
[12:02] <bobdobbs> glick: are you trying to enable the server to be open to remote connection? Or are you trying to connect from a local client? Which side of the problem are you stuck on?
[12:03] <dirtcastle> I'm getting there is no pwm capable sensor modules installed
[12:03] <dirtcastle> what to do.
[12:03] <dirtcastle> this is my laptop. no answer in google search or reddit.
[12:04] <dirtcastle> https://www.flipkart.com/msi-gf63-thin-core-i5-10th-gen-8-gb-512-gb-ssd-windows-10-home-4-graphics-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3050-144-hz-10uc-607in-gaming-laptop/p/itm92565651dc3ed
[12:05] <dirtcastle> ???
[12:11] <glick> i figured it out bobdobbs thaks
[12:11] <glick> thanks
[12:12] <bobdobbs> good to hear
[12:12] <bertieb> EriC^^: I've popped grubx6.efi into microsoft and EFI dirs (https://termbin.com/7sld3); will give that a try and meanwhile actually make a liveusb
[12:15] <bertieb> both windows and ubuntu entries are just dumping me back to BIOS setup again -_-
[12:16] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:16] <luna> hey
[12:19] <EriC^^> bertieb: odd, is there any new entry in efibootmgr for windows boot manager btw?
[12:19] <EriC^^> bertieb: it might be worth a shot to copy grubx64.efi instead of shimx64.efi to those locations
[12:19] <bertieb> EriC^^: nope
[12:20] <bertieb> pop shim into there as well?
[12:20] <EriC^^> bertieb: nah, just copy grubx64.efi to bootx64.efi and bootmgfw.efi
[12:20] <bertieb> ohh right
[12:21] <vanessa> hi. I installed fish but there is no `fish_add_path`? I get `fish_add_path: command not found`. what do?
[12:22] <bertieb> let me try to remember how to create a bootable USB (IIRC it's more than a simple dd ?) to bypass the slow netboot :)
[12:27] <EriC^^> bertieb: yeah dd bs=4M && sync should do it
[12:36] <thor_> 22.04. removing lua5.1 forces install of lua5.2. How do i uninstall the lua package?
[12:37] <bertieb> EriC^^: cheers! the disks I am using seem to be going into uninterruptible sleep (D+ in ps) which makes me wonder if the usb drives are alright...
[12:38] <bertieb> though it's happened across two different drives of the same make so maybe it's the bus itself
[12:40] <EriC^^> dang bertieb
[12:40] <bertieb> aye... aye -_-
[12:41] <thor_> maybe computers are not cool in 2022
[12:42] <bertieb> I think I head the xkcd sharks circling
[12:42] <bertieb> *hear
[12:43] <bertieb> going to try writing the USB from my laptop, otherwise I'll go back to using netboot
[12:48] <manwhowouldbekin> I have been using this Anne Pro 2 keyboard on Ubuntu 20.04 and now on Ubuntu 22.04. It seems to work fine, but several times a day, it will just stop working. To get it working, I typically unplug its cord and plug it back in. Needless to say, it is pretty annoying. I have tried plugging it into a MacOS machine. No problem, so far as i can tell. How can I troubleshoot it and fix it on Ubuntu?
[12:49] <cbreak> manwhowouldbekin: anything in dmesg / journalctl -b 0 ? maybe usb related issues?
[12:49] <cbreak> I noticed usb problems with ubuntu, but that might be cable / hub related.
[12:50] <bertieb> ah, dd went into uninterruptible state (U+) on the laptop too... I have a third, unopened drive of the same type but I'm not sure my sanity could handle that one not working (:
[12:50] <bertieb> (part of me wonders if I got a fake batch)
[12:51] <thor_> manwhowouldbekin: try different usb port. worth a shot.
[13:02] <manwhowouldbekin> thor_, I have tried that. Seems to get the same issue.
[13:02] <manwhowouldbekin> cbreak, What command should I run to check it out?
[13:03] <cbreak> dmesg will show recent kernel messages, journalctl -b 0 shows a ton more
[13:03] <ioria> manwhowouldbekin, also  cat /var/log/syslog; might be a pin issue
[13:04] <cbreak> I think the syslog should also end up in journalctl's output
[13:09] <ioria> manwhowouldbekin, if you see in the logs  firmware errors, you can try to downgrade the pkg
[13:20] <manwhowouldbekin> ioria, The only thing related to keyboard in that file is "May  6 16:02:20 user-desktop /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[2648]: (EE) event15 - OBINLB USB-HID Keyboard: client bug: event processing lagging behind by 30ms, your system is too slow"
[13:22] <manwhowouldbekin> cbreak, Does that journal only store info since the last reboot? Will I need to wait for the keyboard to shutoff and then inspect the journal?
[13:23] <cbreak> manwhowouldbekin: if you use -b -1 or just leave it away, you can access older stuff
[13:23] <cbreak> there's also --since that allows setting a time limit
[13:25] <bertieb> EriC^^: tried coping over grubx64.efi to bootx64 etc, I now get a blank screen and can't seem to access BIOS -_-
[13:25] <bertieb> I think I'm gonna unplug the machine and have another look later
[13:27] <EriC^^> alright
[13:27] <bertieb> something's cursed, and it's either that machine, the boot images, USB drives, me, or all of the above :D
[13:27] <bertieb> once again, I appreciate the time spent and help
[13:28] <bertieb> if I can get anything sensical out of this machine, I'll come back :)
[13:34] <EriC^^> bertieb: no problem, if anything you can always make it boot legacy seems to have worked better that way
[13:34] <EriC^^> just needed the mod dir
[13:41] <bertieb> EriC^^: good thought!  may try legacy with 22.04, or failing that an earlier version (which worked before)
[13:53] <Guest9734> hi
[14:18] <webchat32> hi all
[14:30] <linestar> hi, can help install asus USB-AC58 wi-fi adapter on ubuntu 20.04
[14:32] <zaggynl> hey linestar
[14:32] <zaggynl> I assume the adapter does not become visible after plugging it in? have you tried the driver from asus?
[14:33] <zaggynl> !wifi
[15:27] <imi> hi
[15:29] <imi> I have a script that overwrites the desktop background image. in 20.04 it refreshed the displayed image. now a copy of the old file is made and the background isn't refreshed. I want the background to be refreshed to the new image. how do I do that?
[15:49] <towser> wine gives me "Unhandled exception: page fault on read access to 0xffffffff in 16-bit code (142f:2782).
[15:49] <towser> In 16 bit mode" error when I try to launch a game. How do I fix it?
[15:49] <leftyfb> !wine | towser
[15:50] <towser> wine gives me "Unhandled exception: page fault on read access to 0xffffffff in 16-bit code (142f:2782).
[15:50] <towser> In 16 bit mode" error when I try to launch a game. How do I fix it?
[15:50] <towser> oops
[15:50] <towser> thank you I'll try there
[16:13] <basti_> I transferred an image of ubuntu 22.04 to a usb stick using "dd if=... of=/dev/sdb". This usb stick now won't boot on a "lifebook a531". Instead, it'll attempt to boot from the hard drive. I never encountered this behaviour and I'm pretty confused. I also attempted to boot an image of ubuntu 20.10 (which i had around), with the same result. I suspect some problem with UEFI, but I don't even know how to
[16:14] <basti_> check.
[16:17] <leftyfb> basti_: use etcher.io to flash the ubuntu 22.04 iso to the usb flash drive
[16:19] <basti_> leftyfb: ok i will. I've read about that before. Maybe using "dd" won't give a working partition table?
[16:22] <basti_> leftyfb: can you supply me with a working link to a x64 binary? I can't find one on their page. And, will this work from the shell?
[16:22] <san0> anyone have any experience with ubuntu touch? specifically the aquarius m10 tablet?
[16:22] <basti_> leftyfb: nm, found a link. I'll try it now.
[16:23] <leftyfb> basti_: etcher is a graphical application
[16:23] <san0> trying to log into ubuntu one to update this thing but keep getting a network error
[16:23] <leftyfb> !touch | san0
[16:23] <jhutchins> Pity us poor troglodytes who have been using dd for all these years without knowing it was wrong.
[16:24] <leftyfb> jhutchins: nobody said dd was wrong
[16:24] <basti_> leftyfb: I can't even get X11 to run rn
[16:24] <leftyfb> basti_: what is the filename of the iso you are using?
[16:27] <basti_> leftyfb: ubuntu-22.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[16:27] <leftyfb> ok, that should work
[16:31] <basti_> I'll try using the grub "commandline" to boot the stick.
[16:51] <shivaya> hi peeps, does anyone know if there is a way to set the root password in user-data autoinstall yaml? I have tried disable_root: false and setting root pw in "identity" section but it doesn't seem to work
[16:53] <leftyfb> shivaya: why do you need to set a root password?
[16:53] <arkanoid> I want to understand why a machine turned off at a certain time in the past. I'm looking at syslogs but there's no apparent info at that specific time
[16:54] <shivaya> leftyfb: cause i want to have root pw available locally. my users use keys exclusively but i like to have root account available in case i need to do stuff over the console
[16:54] <leftyfb> arkanoid: look through journalctl -k -b-1  (this will be for the last boot)
[16:54] <leftyfb> shivaya: login as a user and use sudo ... locally
[16:55] <shivaya> leftyfb: mortal users dont have passwords. not able to log in on the console, only via ssh
[16:55] <leftyfb> shivaya: I can't think of a single valid reason a root password would need to be set
[16:55] <leftyfb> shivaya: ok, so make a "moral" user for administrative purposes
[16:55] <leftyfb> mortal*
[16:55] <shivaya> why
[16:55] <shivaya> when there is an account for admin purposes
[16:56] <leftyfb> shivaya: because it's more secure
[16:56] <shivaya> if that account can do sudo, how is it more secure?
[16:56] <shivaya> it's just making things inconvenient imo
[16:57] <ogra> well, you are opening a direct attack vector ...
[16:58] <ogra> you can always just sudo -s to get a root shell
[16:58] <shivaya> w/ root account? but if someone attacker has console access and password for user which can do sudo, how is that different than having console access and password to root user? i don't see where is the increased risk here
[16:58] <leftyfb> shivaya: everyone knows "root" exists on a system. It's unlikely the know the username you choose for your admin account
[16:58] <arkanoid> leftyfb: -b-1 stops many hours before the event
[16:58] <ogra> if a local user uses sudo you get a full trace log for every action
[16:59] <shivaya> if the local users does "sudo bash" there is no log, no?
[16:59] <ogra> a root account logs nothing ... way harder to do forensics ... way easier to do some brute force attack etc
[17:00] <ogra> beyond the fact that everything in ubuntu is tested and integrated with sudo and not with the assumption a root account exists (which might make you find interesting bugs 🙂 )
[17:00] <ogra> with all that in mind, you can indeed just create a root account ... 🙂
[17:00] <arkanoid> last line with -b-1: May 04 21:37:08, event time (thanks to external monitor) May 06 01:31:21
[17:00] <shivaya> i want to create it with autoisntall method
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> arkanoid: whats happening to your ubuntu system exactly?
[17:00] <shivaya> actually root account is there, autointall doesn't want to set its password
[17:01] <shivaya> i want to avoid hacky stuff by sed-ing the hash into shadow file
[17:01] <ogra> shivaya, have you checked https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/automated-server-installs/16612
[17:01] <leftyfb> shivaya: https://askubuntu.com/a/1356660/1151311   good luck
[17:01] <shivaya> ogra: yes but doesn't seem to do the right thing
[17:01] <shivaya> thanks leftyfb, i have tried this solution but doesn't seem to work
[17:01] <shivaya> my google-foo led nowhere so i figured to try  here :)
[17:02] <leftyfb> shivaya: I'm going to guess it is working but you're not setting/typing the password correctly
[17:02] <arkanoid> lotuspsychje: system went off abruptly, it didn't came back online even if auto-power-on is enabled (it would come back if I would remove the plug and re-insert)
[17:02] <shivaya> leftyfb: that's a bad guess, i tried generating multiple hashes, quotes no quotes - no luck
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> arkanoid: wich ubuntu release are you on?
[17:03] <leftyfb> shivaya: I ran into a similar issue with ansible and setting user passwords. Turn out to be the way I was automating writing out the hash
[17:03] <leftyfb> arkanoid: did it just cut power? If that's the case, then that is a hardware issue, not ubuntu
[17:03] <arkanoid> lotuspsychje: 20.04 LTS
[17:04] <leftyfb> arkanoid: maybe look into a power supply or heat issus
[17:04] <iomari891> greetings, I have a python3.7 installation that I'm trying to remove and the damn thing refuses. I keep getting: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[17:04] <iomari891>  libpython3.7-stdlib : Depends: libpython3.7-minimal (= 3.7.12-1+focal2) but 3.7.13-1+focal3 is to be installed
[17:04] <iomari891> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no packages (or specify a solution).y
[17:04] <shivaya> leftyfb: i have a plain yml, no ansible involved. well involved in the post install but not to initiate autoinstall. i can prove the hash works by injecting it into shadow file in late-commands
[17:04] <shivaya> this this is supposed to work, this may be a bug
[17:04] <shivaya> if this*
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> arkanoid: while you dig your journal logs, maybe share your dmesg in a !paste the volunteers might see something relevant
[17:05] <leftyfb> !bug | shivaya
[17:05] <arkanoid> leftyfb: that's what it seems from the logs, as seems there's no relevant events around that time. I'm here asking which log should contain interesting info to reduce the search area
[17:05] <iomari891> fix-broken doesn't work either. How can I completely remove python 3.7 by force?
[17:05] <leftyfb> arkanoid: if it just cut power, there is no log
[17:11] <oerheks> iomari891, how did you get  3.7.13-1+focal3  ? as 3.8 is standard
[17:11] <oerheks> deadsnakes PPA?
[17:17] <iomari891> oerheks: I'm helping someone. I have no idea how it got there. The default on his machine is 3.8. But this 3.7 is causing issues and I just can't get rid of it.
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> dependency issues often arise when messing with ppa's iomari891
[17:18] <oerheks> version number gives this hint; https://launchpad.net/~deadsnakes/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[17:18] <oerheks> remove ppa, with ppa-purge?
[17:18] <oerheks> that would reverse to the original 3.8, i hope
[17:19] <iomari891> the only ppa besides the standard is deadsnkes
[17:19] <iomari891> snakes
[17:19] <iomari891> if I remove it will it solve the problem?
[17:20] <oerheks> yes
[17:20] <oerheks> !ppapurge
[17:25] <iomari891> oerheks: thanks but i can't install anything or upgrade anything. I keep getting the fix-broken message and fix-broken bringing "unmet dependencies" eroors.
[17:28] <iomari891> I removed the deadsnakes manually but the problem persists.
[17:30] <lotuspsychje> iomari891: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-list-and-remove-ppa-repository-on-ubuntu-20-04-linux
[17:50] <ioria> iomari891, if you can't install  ppa-purge and fix-broken it's not working, you can use still use something like :  sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq python3.7    and  sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq libpython3.7-stdlib
[17:50] <tomreyn> iomari891: you know, apt itself is partially (mostly) based on python. it is only tested and known to work with the python versions that comes with the respective ubuntu release. therefore, installing a different python version system-wide, and replacing the default python release or where "python" command points to, can actually stop apt from working properly or at all.  So you may be facing two problems at once there.
[18:14] <naresh> hi , i installed fresh ubuntu 22.04 , the screen seems flickering after some time, when playing video and also camera is not working, the coloured lines are coming in camera windows. may be this graphics issue, please help me to resolve this issue.
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> naresh: cheese has a known bug that needs yet to be solved on 22.04
[18:16] <matsaman> naresh: what graphics device & driver?
[18:16] <iomari891> tomreyn: thanks. the problem was resolved by removing deadsnakes afterall.
[18:17] <naresh> matsaman, how to check , please guide me
[18:17] <Linux> hi
[18:17] <matsaman> naresh: probably, lspci | grep -i vga -B 5 -A 5, should be in there somewhere
[18:18] <matsaman> naresh: intel, nvidia, nouveau, fglrx, radeon, amdgpu, etc.
[18:18] <matsaman> Linux: hi
[18:22] <naresh> matsaman, https://imgur.com/a/75SNw7o here is complete info
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> naresh: that could my flickering bug #1958191
[18:25] <naresh> lotuspsychje, also when i booting the system , the boot black screen shows "sgx disabled by bios"
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> naresh: try adding this kernel paramater in your grub as a test, to get rid of your flickering; i915.enable_dc=0 intel_idle.max_cstate=2
[18:29] <naresh> ok ,
[18:29] <xheimlich> Hi. What's a simple "web parser" or "batch web browser" that can be used from the cli (like curl) but strips most html tags, maybe renders ol and ul, something like that.?
[18:29] <lotuspsychje> you know howto do that naresh
[18:29] <naresh> no lotuspsychje
[18:29] <naresh> please guide me.
[18:30] <xheimlich> I basically want to pipe text-heavy urls from sites like everything2 and literotica to this python script I have.
[18:31] <lotuspsychje> naresh: ctrl + l in nautilus and type admin:/// in the search field ontop
[18:31] <lotuspsychje> naresh: then go edit /etc/default/grub and add the parameter behind quiet splash and save
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> naresh: then sudo update-grub and reboot
[18:36] <tomreyn> xheimlich: you may be referring to lync
[18:36] <tomreyn> lynx
[18:37] <tomreyn> or w3m, or browsh
[18:39] <matsaman> naresh: so if you've got intel onboard and nvidia dedicated, you have at least three graphics drivers to choose from -- intel, nvidia, nouveau -- and likely many variations of each further. It's kind of boring, but just trying different driver versions or entire drivers could circumvent your issue.
[18:40] <naresh> matsaman, what you suggest then ? i am still trying to fix with lotuspsychje solutions
[18:42] <matsaman> naresh: you may as well finish with lotuspsychje's approach
[18:42] <matsaman> follow through with first*
[18:42] <matsaman> xheimlich: I usually use | elinks -dump -no-references for that
[18:43] <matsaman> xheimlich: but there's certainly a python lib for it, too
[18:44] <basti_> I turned up here about 2 hours ago, being unable to boot 22.04 from a usb stick on a lifebook a531. I also tried to boot via grub, but to no avail. As it turned out, dd is still fine for writing iso images to usb sticks, but lifebook a531 won't run any ubuntu version later than 20.04 (which was one notch earlier than I had images for) - leftyfb
[18:44] <tuu> hello, I've downloaded ubuntu 22.04 from the ubuntu site yesterday but the checksum mismatched, I wonder whether it is a transmission error or maybe the image is malicious?
[18:45] <pavan> most probably a transmission error
[18:48] <naresh> lotuspsychje, sudo update-grub says Sourcing file `/etc/default/grub'
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> naresh: yes, sounds good
[18:49] <naresh> usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 10: /etc/default/grub: i915.enable_dc=0: not found
[18:49] <naresh> this lotuspsychje
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> naresh: if you did it correcly, your grub now shows: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash i915.enable_dc=0 intel_idle.max_cstate=2"
[18:49] <tomreyn> tuu: you could try the torrent instead, it may have a better chance of downloading properly in case your internet connection is less reliable
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> naresh: if not, try again proper edit
[18:50] <naresh> lotuspsychje, now "Adding boot menu entry for UEFI Firmware Settings ...Done"
[18:51] <tomreyn> basti_: certainly quite aged hardware, but i'm not aware of a reason whxy it should not run 22.04
[18:52] <tomreyn> !bootlog | nares
[18:52] <tomreyn> ^ basti_ actually that was for you
[18:53] <tuu> tomreyn, I've downloaded from a mirror with wget today this time it was correct, yesterday I downloaded from the site with firefox. also the file size is identical so it's not just missing bytes..
[18:56] <xheimlich> matsaman: yeah, I didn't want to use Python for that. Thanks for the answer.
[18:58] <tomreyn> tuu: if you have details i'm happy to cross check this with you
[18:58] <tomreyn> would need url of where you downloaded the image and the output of sha256sum run against your download
[19:04] <MrAureliusR> Hey everyone. Was just upgrading my server from 21.10 to 22.04 using do-release-upgrade. Everything was going fine. Then it wanted to update /etc/sudoers, so I hit Z to start a shell so I could merge the new version with my existing changes. However, inside of nano, a bunch of messages printed on the screen saying that the upgrade had failed and to press ENTER to continue. The keyboard wouldn't respond at first, so I hit ctrl-c which allowed me
[19:04] <MrAureliusR> to exit nano. Then it printed out some more of the package update messages, but then it said the subprocess had been killed
[19:04] <MrAureliusR> now I'm not sure what to do. do-release-upgrade says there are no upgrades. apt-get update says the system is up to date.
[19:04] <MrAureliusR> but I can see in top that there is a "jammy" process still running, and some other process is holding the dpkg lock
[19:05] <basti_> tomreyn: this confused me a lot, as well. I was able to boot until a certain point by using grub command line, but the boot was interrupted without an error message. I was out of ideas and installed 20.04 then, which I'm using now.
[19:07] <sarnold> MrAureliusR: try apt install -f  and dpkg --configure -a
[19:09] <MrAureliusR> but a process is holding the dpkg lock
[19:10] <MrAureliusR> and that process seems to still be running
[19:11] <tomreyn> basti_: then i'd say just enjoy your working 20.04, and when you feel like upgrading to 22.04, and the issue is still there, just come back here.
[19:11] <MrAureliusR> I'm a bit nervous about killing that process
[19:12] <MrAureliusR> the process is "/usr/bin/dpkg--force-overwrite--status-fd91--configure--pending"
[19:12] <MrAureliusR> according to it's cmdline in /proc anyway
[19:15] <tomreyn> MrAureliusR: how long has it been running, though? do you have any terminal windows open in the background? are you logged on to this system on any ttys or by ssh?
[19:15] <MrAureliusR> logged in via ssh, both on the regular port and the special 1022 it opened
[19:15] <MrAureliusR> I can access it via a serial tty from the management console if ssh goes awry though
[19:16] <MrAureliusR> it's been running maybe 10 minutes now since the screen process terminated
[19:17] <MrAureliusR> and the "jammy" process is also still running, which is the upgrade script, isn't it?
[19:17] <tomreyn> should be, yes
[19:17] <tomreyn> i guess it's waiting for you to make a choice on wheter you intend to keep the file the same or have it replaced
[19:18] <MrAureliusR> well
[19:18] <tomreyn> if you kill the hanging process it should continue, keeping the file as is... i assume
[19:18] <MrAureliusR> it actually responded to that, it was odd
[19:18] <MrAureliusR> I was able to say N at the prompt, then it printed out maybe 10 more lines and then showed the subprocess had been killed
[19:18] <MrAureliusR> the whole thing was a bit strange
[19:19] <MrAureliusR> which process should I kill, the dpkg or the jammy?
[19:19] <tomreyn> dpkg's, but don't blame me ;)
[19:20] <tomreyn> after all the upgrade already failed
[19:20] <MrAureliusR> not going to blame you, heh
[19:20] <MrAureliusR> oh good, sudo dpkg --configure -a seems to be picking up where it left off
[19:21] <MrAureliusR> *phew*
[19:21] <tomreyn> it would be good to try and find out what caused the upgrade to fail in the first place. maybe 'foreign' packages (or package versions), or just the unsupported upgrade path
[19:22] <tomreyn> oh, actually 21.10 to 22.04 may be supported by now, haven't checked
[19:22] <tomreyn> why are you running server on non LTS versions though?
[19:23] <tomreyn> i mean it's fine, i just would not want to bother.
[19:28] <MrAureliusR> lol sorry, znc got upgraded as we were talking
[19:29] <electrostrong> Is anyone knowledgeable on ACL's and Samba in the chat here?
[19:29] <MrAureliusR> I am pretty sure the reason it failed was because I hit ctrl-d while in nano
[19:29] <MrAureliusR> and/or ctrl-c
[19:29] <MrAureliusR> which somehow got picked up by the script running
[19:29] <electrostrong> I have an SMB share in which ACL information is being maintained beyond the user/group/other permissions when files are being saved
[19:30] <electrostrong> i.e. -rw-r--r--+  1 root      root
[19:30] <electrostrong> the "+" signifies an ACL that's being added - I just want user/group and no extended ACL attributes saved with the file
[19:31] <tuu> tomreyn: the URL was https://releases.ubuntu.com/22.04/ubuntu-22.04-desktop-amd64.iso and the invalid checksum was 359ad09d7997ea49fc94e3e03d3cc9325d9153c88a28224d0ba1076eb60a26be
[19:31] <tuu> I downloaded again with firefox from that URL and the checksum is invalid again but now it's 4dc3dd64afd05d17b703d819ae98ddc125a3b50c6f4a53e0ea1c124f07cc97dc, weird..
[19:31] <tuu> I try with wget now..
[19:34] <tomreyn> tuu: if you can use zsync on this (linux based?) operating system you are running now, just install zsync and download https://releases.ubuntu.com/22.04/ubuntu-22.04-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync and use it against the file you already have
[19:34] <sarnold> does zsync work with https links? I'
[19:35] <sarnold> I've got a vague memory that it doesn't do beyond http
[19:36] <electrostrong> n/m - answered my own question - in smb.conf found "map acl inherit = yes" and also "vfs objects = acl_xattr" and "store dos attributes = yes" - removed them and now behaves without ACL's...so much fun
[19:36] <MrAureliusR> +1 for zsync, it's great
[19:37] <sarnold> MrAureliusR: ah :) you're back, yay; I've been starting additional terminals to inspect the changed files moments after the changes are made; I don't know where exactly I got into this habit, but it might have been similar cases, hehe
[19:38] <tomreyn> sarnold: oh, interesting, i never tried. but the http:// links still work (and maybe that's one of the reasons why)
[19:38] <DD3my> good evening guys, i am a new member of the ubuntu community, is it possible to get the ubuntu cloak for my nickname?
[19:38] <tuu> tomreyn, with wget the download succeeded correctly
[19:39] <tomreyn> tuu: nice!
[19:39] <tuu> yeah! :D
[19:39] <sarnold> DD3my: sweet! :) yeah
[19:39] <tomreyn> MrAureliusR: log from znc restart https://termbin.com/ktk6
[19:40] <DD3my> thank you sarnold :)
[19:44] <MrAureliusR> oh, mostly because it's a fairly experimental server and I wanted more recent packages
[19:45] <MrAureliusR> but now I will be sticking to the LTS I think
[19:45] <MrAureliusR> just wrangling with a few services that failed to start properly after the upgrade... for some reason one service is complaining that /var/run is read-only when I'm pretty sure it's not
[19:46] <MrAureliusR> I can see that /run is a tmpfs, but I don't know why this service can't read the socket file it owns there
[19:46] <MrAureliusR> "2022/05/06 19:39:32 /var/run/yggdrasil.sock already exists and was not cleaned up: remove /var/run/yggdrasil.sock: read-only file system"
[19:46] <MrAureliusR> very odd indeed. is that a difference from previous versions?
[19:49] <sarnold> that's very odd; my guesses: (a) check mount, maybe you've actually got a read-only filesystem.. (b) check /proc/pid/mounts for whatever process logged that message, perhaps there's some bind-mount games going on in that specific process
[19:50] <electrostrong> @MrAureliusR - when yggdrasil crashes it leaves the file there - you may want to manually remove it and try again to see if this corrects it: https://github.com/yggdrasil-network/yggdrasil-go/issues/326
[19:50] <tomreyn> fwiw, /var/run is a symlink to /run on my rather frshly installed 22.04 desktop VM here
[19:51] <sarnold> I wonder if namei -l   reports read-only filesystems along the way..
[19:51] <DD3my> you have been very kind, thanks for the support sarnold :)
[19:51] <sarnold> (that wouldn't help much in the case of new filesystem namespaces and read-only bind mounts, but still..)
[19:52] <electrostrong> To see if filesystems are mounted readyonly you can grep proc: grep "[[:space:]]ro[[:space:],]" /proc/mounts
[19:56] <MrAureliusR> electrostrong: aha, good to know
[19:56] <MrAureliusR> however, the original issue was that it couldn't *create* that file due to read-only filesystem
[19:56] <MrAureliusR> so I tried touching and chmoding it
[19:59] <MrAureliusR> aha, they changed the location
[20:01] <electrostrong> Is this 22.04?
[20:02] <MrAureliusR> yeah. it's now /var/run/yggdrasil/yggdrasil.sock
[20:03] <electrostrong> Good to know - I'm waiting a bit before doing any upgrades so others can go through the file permission pains :|
[20:27] <ash_worksi> does anyone know what the heck `C-a s` does on gnuscreen?
[20:28] <ash_worksi> nvm
[20:28] <ash_worksi> I don't get it really, but you can break out of the madness with C-a q
[20:28] <sarnold> ash_worksi: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_flow_control
[21:12] <ash_worksi> sarnold: thanks, I have a look a little later; I'm sure there's a reason, but it's frustrating when you type something and then stuff just stops working afauct
[21:13] <sarnold> ash_worksi: yeah.. a program I use recently added ^Q to mean "quit", and that's surprisingly easy to hit when I want to use ^W to delete the previous word.. luckily I can unbind ^Q from that application :)
[21:13] <sarnold> ash_worksi: you can use stty to disable xon/xoff terminal handling, if you wish
[21:57] <glestrade> Hi folks, so although this is not my first time around the block, so to speak, with Linux, I'm having a lot of trouble with installing OpenCV for my project, for which I've found a lot of helpful posts online
[21:59] <glestrade> I'm trying to understand what ldconfig is, people are discussing it like it's a necessary step for the G++ linker to find the package config?
[22:00] <glestrade> but there's also an environment variable and an /etc/ld.so.conf file that the linker could potentially use?
[22:00] <glestrade> Trying to understand what's going on here so I'll be better at understanding future issues I might run into.
[22:09] <sarnold> glestrade: most software is packaged these days, and most packaging tools will re-run ldconfig as part of the installation process. most users never know ldconfig exists
[22:10] <jhutchins> ash_worksi: If you're not too accustomed to screen yet, you could try tmux instead.  It's what all the cool kids use.
[22:10]  * jhutchins < Not a cool kid.
[22:15] <XATRIX> Hi,is it possible to disable tegra-hda and snd driver to be loaded on startup ?
[22:15] <XATRIX> I don't see it's loaded as a module
[22:15] <XATRIX> I think it built in into initrd or kernel itself
[22:15] <XATRIX> https://imgur.com/DTExqsa.png
[22:16] <XATRIX> I have to disable HDMI sound card output
[22:17] <jhutchins> XATRIX: You can rebuild your own initrd with the drivers you need.  You can blacklist modules so they won't load at startup.
[22:17] <jhutchins> XATRIX: You can also pass arguments to the modules that do load, although there's no guarante that the option you want is covered.
[22:18] <XATRIX> jhutchins: i'm not sure i would like to rebuild initrd, becase of it's nvidia's tegra kernel image. and ubuntu 18.04 LTS. By the way this module isn't loaded as modprobe ..., so no idea if it work if i blacklist it using /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[22:19] <linestar> 1
[23:13] <noarb> I'm trying to configure autoinstall for 22.04. Does cloud-init invoke curtin to do actual storage configuration when installing? Is curtin the current installer, or subiquity, or some other thing?
[23:15] <sarnold> noarb: as I understand it, subiquity drives curtin
[23:23] <noarb> OK, thanks for your help. I think curtin is the correct docs then for autoinstall, cloud-init could use something else with another OS or installer