[21:59] <BrianHechinger[m> mrz80: Bulldozer is an awful architecture. Piledriver is *slightly* better, but not enough to be worth it. Even zen1 completely blows it out of the water. Here's a great example of how unbelievably bad it is. Someone overclocked an FX8xxx or FX9xxx (I forget which one) to like 6Ghz or 8Ghz or something insane like that. A bone stock ryzen 1600 still outperformed it.
[22:00] <BrianHechinger[m> Plus, a 3600/3600X is insanely good for not a ton of money.