| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: I don't know if you have used the headphones functionality of controls, but from what I can see I have set it up wrong. | 14:59 |
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| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: I haven't, my headphone jack on my audio interface is tied to outputs 1/2 or 3/4 using an A/B switch. | 15:00 |
| OvenWerks | Right now it is set up to always be ports 1 and 2 on a device. | 15:00 |
| OvenWerks | I think it should be set up like the main outs | 15:00 |
| Eickmeyer | It should, in most cases. | 15:00 |
| Eickmeyer | The switching between speaker/headphone should be done on the ALSA side, Jack shouldn't know any better. | 15:01 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: for internal headphones, it is | 15:01 |
| Eickmeyer | Yeah. | 15:01 |
| OvenWerks | but the internal device may not be system | 15:02 |
| Eickmeyer | I see. | 15:02 |
| Eickmeyer | Because system is set to Jack Master. | 15:02 |
| OvenWerks | That is, the user should be able to use a USB device for mains and then plugin their phones to the computer and the output should switch to PCH,0,0-out_1 and 2 | 15:03 |
| OvenWerks | if that is the device that is phones. or use the sound on their computer for main and plug a second usb phones in and have audio switch | 15:04 |
| OvenWerks | This works if the output ports are 1 and 2 | 15:04 |
| Eickmeyer | Right. I don't know why ALSA doesn't automagically do it in the first place. Seems like Pulse does something when directly connected to ALSA. | 15:06 |
| OvenWerks | However, as in your case, the phones could be 3/4 (or 9/10 in others) and then the manual phones switch should still work. | 15:06 |
| OvenWerks | Yes pulse does and we do too. We mute mains (in two ways just in case) and unmute phones (in two ways just in case) | 15:07 |
| OvenWerks | We also provide a scriptable switch method for those laptops that require something else | 15:08 |
| OvenWerks | (I have one as happens, but from research they are all different) | 15:09 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: So, I think phones will have to be stored as jackport and the device will have to be plugged in and active just to set it up... or I will need two fields, one for device and the second for ports. | 15:33 |
| Eickmeyer | Seems like this gets more complicated every time we look at it. | 15:34 |
| OvenWerks | not really, I think it was just over simplified to begin with | 15:35 |
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| OvenWerks | I really only considered two uses: internal and USB phones. Both of which are easy to handle. However, I have provided manual switching for cases outside of those two. | 15:36 |
| OvenWerks | and having provided that manual function (from the beginning), it should work in a useful manner | 15:37 |
| Eickmeyer | I see. | 15:37 |
| OvenWerks | In fact, I think really, this would be a case for studio-controls -p to just switch phones and exit so it could be tied to a global hot key. | 15:39 |
| OvenWerks | or to add to the utility I gave you for systray | 15:40 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: are you using controls-cl as the name? If so, I think I will expand it and include it in studio-controls | 15:47 |
| Eickmeyer | TBH, I haven't started working on it yet. I've been super busy with kubuntu focus. We've got the 4th generation laptop we're trying to get out the door, and it requires 22.04. | 15:48 |
| OvenWerks | so I could rename it to studio-cmd? | 15:49 |
| Eickmeyer | Yeah, that'd work. | 15:49 |
| Eickmeyer | Nothing you can do now would break anything for me | 15:49 |
| OvenWerks | Ok, I will pull it into -controls under studio-cmd (as less likely to conflict with other packages) and add phones. If you ever do a systray applet, adding phones might be nice. | 15:56 |
| OvenWerks | I will set it up so it takes phones or no-phones rather than switch to whatever it is not. I will make the same change in -controls | 15:57 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: in the error tracker, what does the uec-images tag mean? | 16:36 |
| Eickmeyer | uec-images? I'm not familiar. | 16:37 |
| OvenWerks | It is the only permission denied I get for a real user. | 16:39 |
| Eickmeyer | Best I could find, so I wouldn't worry about it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/Images | 16:41 |
| OvenWerks | running on cloud not supported :) | 16:42 |
| Eickmeyer | Indeed. XD | 16:42 |
| OvenWerks | I think I will check for a few things on startup. User 0, user < 1000, do I have write permission for config and log, etc | 17:14 |
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