[22:12] <Iamthehuman12> OvenWerks: I tried all the 5 values for a single line in kglobalshortcutsrc, but none of them work. Alt+F1 is supposed to open the launcher thing, but it does not. The Windows key also does not open the launcher. It would be nice to say nice things about this distro, but having no keyboard shortcut to activate one of the key elements of any modern GUI, it is really difficult
[22:15] <Iamthehuman12> There is one more thing I think I could do. At home I have baqpaq backups of the clean system so I could try looking at that kglobalshortcutrc, but I think I recall that this came installed with the keymapping broken to start with, and in case that will not help anything
[22:18] <Iamthehuman12> It would be nice to know which program/process wrote those 5 entries, none of which work, into my kglobalshortcutrc and why and if it could be avoided in the future
[22:19] <OvenWerks> I do have one last thought...
[22:20] <OvenWerks> What happens if you add another application menu to your top bar? Does that add a line to that file?
[22:24] <Iamthehuman12> OvenWerks: no it does not add an "activate widget" entry to the conf file
[22:25] <OvenWerks> Also what happens if you add a user and log in to that new user? Do they have the entry?
[22:25] <OvenWerks> Also, have you asked on #kubuntu? (more people including kde devs)
[22:26] <Iamthehuman12> what would that entry help? to copy the magic number from, because no manual for the numbers or program that makes up the numbers can be found?
[22:28] <OvenWerks> Because I don't know kde/plasma at that level and it could be a hint on how the entry is created
[22:29] <OvenWerks> I did take a look in /etc/skel/ but that is empty.
[22:37] <Iamthehuman12> I could try asking in #kubuntu, they are usually friendly, but I would have more pressing things to do than to bang the keyboard with my forehead to fix something that was broken from the start, a trick fixed it for a while for reasons unknown to me and the guy who gave the tip and then it broke again and I manually tried 5 different numbers and rebooted 5 times to no avail. Unfortunately to get the other things done, a functioning 
[22:37] <Iamthehuman12> GUI would be of great use
[22:39] <Iamthehuman12> I'll just use the touchpad whenever I would use the Windows key and hope that "last icon in panel is replaced by blank space and only way to access last program is alt-tab"-bug that's been around for ages doesn't exhibit too badly
[22:40] <OvenWerks> Yeah, I understand that one. I personally don't use shortcuts because... dyslexia, but my wife does and I know many others do too.
[22:42] <Iamthehuman12> Everybody uses the Windows key to pop the launcher open, in other OS it actually works, but here it gets broken all the time and no-one knows why, by what program etc. I don't complain about many of these bugs because then a certain person just yells at me (usually) and I don't have time to make screen recording of every bug to prove they are driving me instane
[22:47] <Iamthehuman12> I've never seen any schematic of what part of US comes from which system, so really hard to tell what is US bug, Kubuntu bug, KDE Plasma bug and what is not a bug but mala fide actors having a laugh at my desire to have a reliable computer OS
[22:48] <OvenWerks> That is definately a kubuntu type bug
[22:48] <Iamthehuman12> Ok, but not tonite
[22:48] <OvenWerks> US is a group of applications installed on top of kubuntu
[22:52] <Iamthehuman12> yeah, I should learn to install and configure Arch. But if I have that Moonbounce or something similar then no clean install will be possible unless the FW gets cleaned, because it is a zero-software exploit from what I've read
[22:55] <Iamthehuman12> fwupdate hasn't been showing interest in updating it, so I think it thinks that the FW is fine
[22:59] <Iamthehuman12> yeah, right now I would need to use LibreOffice writer, but the "blank space where icon should be" is exhibiting. the only workaround is to start another program that I have no use for, because then that one will be the invisible one
[23:01] <Iamthehuman12> this way I will always have one program that I cannot reach through other means than alt-tab:ing through all of 'em till I find the one, but this bug has been driving me insane for way over half a year, but I know that complaints about bugs attract yelling that I'm in the wrong place
[23:05] <Iamthehuman12> I used Kubuntu in 2011-2020, I'll go ask them about these bugs tomorrow
[23:11] <Iamthehuman12> someone said to use ubuntu-bug, I used it and then I heard that my bug report is in the wrong place and should not be there because it is not an US bug, so I learned not to trust advice to use ubuntu-bug, because that too leads to being judged as having done the wrong thing, and never ever relaying the report to the right people. But complaining about any of this is useless, because I cannot tell bona fide incompetence and mala fide 
[23:11] <Iamthehuman12> pretense of incompetence apart in any people any more