[00:01] <sarnold> at the login dialog box there's probably a little icon somewhere to select which desktop environment or session to start; it sounds like it's probably trying gnome on wayland; maybe your previous successes were using X11 instead? maybe try gnome on X11?
[00:01] <Mister_X> I was never able to login after upgrading from 21.10 to 22.04
[00:02] <Mister_X> but a default install of 22.04 works just fine
[00:02] <Bashing-om> Mister_X: Nvidia graphics ? As Nvidia has requested we pull their prorietary driver with Wayland.
[00:02] <Mister_X> and this happened on 2 different virtual machines with pretty much default install of 21.10
[00:02] <Mister_X> no
[00:02] <Mister_X> it's a virtual machine, using KVM
[00:02] <Mister_X> F34 as host
[00:04] <Bashing-om> Mister_X: As only a thought - try and boot with the "nomodeset" boot parameter ? isolating to a graphics issue.
[00:05] <Mister_X> sarnold: I don't see that icon. On the top right, there is just accessibility and network/speaker/power, in the middle the username (with a "not listed?" below), and the ubuntu logo at the bottom
[00:08] <Mister_X> nomodeset results in a black session screen (no cursor), I can still Ctrl-Alt-Fx to get into a console
[00:08] <sarnold> Mister_X: try clicking that ubuntu logo, see what that does
[00:09] <Mister_X> does nothing
[00:09] <Mister_X> just a background image I guess
[00:10] <sarnold> :(
[00:10] <Mister_X> I guess I'll have to reinstall it
[00:11] <Mister_X> I have a snapshot before the update I'm not SoL
[00:13] <Bashing-om> Mister_X: Gummm .. any hints: loginctl session-status ?
[00:13] <Mister_X> while I'm here, I've had a weird issue with Ubuntu 21.04, 21.10, and 22.04: using VM with LVM and FDE, the screen to unlock the disk doesn't show up
[00:14] <Mister_X> unless I do a force reset (using virt-manager)
[00:14] <Mister_X> it works fine on 20.04
[00:14] <Mister_X> I've searched multiple times and never found anybody with a similar issue
[00:14] <Mister_X> any idea what that could be, or how I can debug that?
[00:17] <Mister_X> Bashing-om: I already reverted the snapshot and it's already late, I'll give it a try tomorrow and report back
[00:18] <Bashing-om> Mister_X: Great :D
[00:26] <Mister_X> That boot issue seem to be also limited to ubuntu, I didn't see it in similar set-up with F34/35/36
[02:36] <domino14> a significant percentage of the time when i click on a program on the dock, it won't open. like the spinner goes on for 10-20 seconds and then it stops spinning and the program doesn't open.
[02:36] <domino14> anyone know if there are any logs i can see for this?
[02:37] <domino14> this is a very fast / brand-new computer. when programs do open, they open very quickly and everything is responsive
[02:41] <sarnold> try opening a terminal, running journalctl -f, and then try the clicking; see if there's messages that spit out while you're waiting that look relevant
[02:41] <Crucifyy> are they snaps? there is a known lag issue with snap installed programs
[02:42] <sarnold> that was my first thought, right up until I got to "the program doesn't open"
[02:42] <Crucifyy> i had that issue with snap firefox so i guess its possible
[02:43] <domino14> almost all the time if there is a lag, the program will never open
[02:43] <domino14> it's rare, but not that rare
[02:44] <lotuspsychje> domino14: can you mention wich programs exactly aswell?
[02:44] <Crucifyy> how long are you waiting for it? when i had the snap version of spotify it would literally take 5 min to open from a NvMe driv
[02:46] <lotuspsychje> 5min sounds like impossible Crucifyy
[02:46] <Crucifyy> spotify and discord both the same 3-5 min each
[02:47] <Crucifyy> wiped them and reinstalled the .deb and theyre both instant now
[02:48] <lotuspsychje> last time i tested discord snap was instantly on a sata ssd/i5
[02:49] <lotuspsychje> gotta be something else playing Crucifyy
[02:49] <Crucifyy> could be, but i sure couldn't figure out what.. the debs work just fine, so im just sticking with those.. idk
[02:50] <domino14> @lotuspsychje for example. chromium just now a couple of times. It also tends to happen if i still the app from Snap, the very first time i try to open it
[02:50] <domino14> it happens very often in that case
[02:50] <domino14> but when apps do open it's nearly instantaneous
[02:51] <lotuspsychje> go for sarnold advice, see if something else is bottlenecking in the journal logs
[02:51] <lotuspsychje> snaps auto update, maybe that was tha case?
[02:52] <domino14> well speaking of discord, i see this message many many times in journalctl
[02:52] <domino14>  audit[16981]: AVC apparmor="DENIED" operation="ptrace" profile="snap.discord.discord" pid=16981 comm="Discord" requested_mask="read" denied_mask="read" peer="unconfined"
[02:52] <lotuspsychje> and if its the individual snap faulty, check snap info snapname to see the bug/contact link
[02:52] <domino14> i can't seem to exit discord. if i right click Quit it quits, but i don't thnik it actually quit
[02:52] <domino14> because i can reopen it immediately without losing context by clicking it again
[02:52] <sarnold> domino14: https://github.com/snapcrafters/discord/issues/23
[02:53] <lotuspsychje> nothing much the volunteers can do on snap level
[02:54] <domino14> thanks. still getting this every few seconds but it's much less spam
[02:54] <domino14> discord_discord.desktop[16981]: [2022-05-16 22:54:40.572] [17005] (device_info_linux.cc:45): NumberOfDevices
[02:56] <sarnold> that might just be discord's devs dumping debugging information. I think the gui application developers accidentally leave in loads of such messages because they just never actually see what their applications are doing
[06:26] <secret1> Hey everyone!
[06:46] <uranus> yoyoyo
[07:06] <andrew__> Hey, I can't manage to have sound on my computer. I tried everything under the sun : restarting then removing then reinstalling both ALSA and pulseuadio, replacing pulseadio with pipewire. No nothing, only a dummy output. I'm running under Ubuntu 22.04 with a Nvidia audio card
[07:28] <gordonjcp> in 22.04 Evince doesn't seem to have a print function any more, how do I print PDFs?
[07:46] <Aison> ubuntu server 22.04 has no bacula packages? or do I something wrong?!?
[07:47] <Aison> ok, maybe I should ask in #ubuntu-server
[08:51] <weedmic> what is the ubuntu command to turn on port 22 for ssh traffic?
[08:52] <weedmic> in opensuse it is graphical via yast, and so far i found only a command that requires ufw - which appears not to be installed already.
[08:57] <weedmic> nfm ufw come w ubuntu - so it should work
[09:15] <dreamcat4> hello, just upgraded to 22.04 and am getting NO_PUBKEY errors, tried reimporting them, and get processed 1 unchanged 1
[09:16] <dreamcat4> (like the import worked). however upon doing another `sudo apt update`... the errors are still there NO_PUBKEY
[09:17] <dreamcat4> after following this guide, sadly it didn't work https://itsubuntu.com/fix-the-following-signatures-couldnt-be-verified-ubuntu-22-04-gpg-error/
[09:36] <cbreak> hey, I need input on User Account Management. I'd like to have a central user database, so my NFS shares can be used on multiple nodes without having to manually create local users. I'd expect LDAP to be able to do this, but it seemed extremely annoying to set up and maintain
[09:36] <cbreak> is there any sane alternative nowadays?
[09:39] <cbreak> also, slightly related, on that system I get this error:
[09:39] <cbreak> Sorry, home directories outside of /home are not currently supported.   See https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/11209 for details.
[09:39] <cbreak> unfortunately, that forum thread is extremely outdated :(
[09:41] <cbreak> it seems snaps just don't work, maybe some newbie hard-coded a path somewhere and it didn't get fixed in 3 years? :/
[09:44] <cbreak> seems the bug's already 6 years old
[09:51] <dreamcat4> ok nevermind, problem solved
[10:34] <fruity_tomato> timedatectl says there is NTP sync but ntp is not installed and there is nothing at /etc/ntp.conf
[10:34] <fruity_tomato> does ubuntu 20.04 store the ntp settings elsewhere?
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> !time | fruity_tomato can this help?
[10:39] <fruity_tomato> hm, those links just get redirected to ubuntus home page for the docs
[10:40] <fruity_tomato> search yields a 500 error, hmmmm
[10:40] <fruity_tomato> well, i've just found it, it's systemd-timesyncd.service
[10:40] <fruity_tomato> and the conf is in /etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf
[11:52] <Galaxion-tech> hello
[11:53] <lxsameer> hey folks, do you have an alternative for live-build? how do you build the official ubuntu lives?
[11:54] <uranus> hi guys, quick question: i can't find any working tutorials on how to run openvpn over SSL (stunnel)
[11:57] <WeeBey> Good morning! The regulars know I've been struggling with issues with gnome 42 and specifically filechooser. I'm pasting this bug link here only to report back my findings so that it can be helpful if anyone else comes with similar issues.
[11:57] <WeeBey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1971112
[11:57] <WeeBey> Filed two weeks ago, so it's just not known yet.
[12:00] <lxsameer> is there any IRC channel for ubuntu developers?
[12:03] <ogra> lxsameer, i think the ubuntu-image snap is nowadays used for most image builds ... though i dont know if live-build does not hook into that in the backend somehow
[12:04] <ogra> lxsameer, #ubuntu-devel
[12:04] <lxsameer> ogra: thanks
[12:23] <WeeBey> This is the root bug: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/4136
[12:25] <WeeBey> Turns out that it' X11 only. Wayland doesn't have this behaviour. This is why some users here said their system was fine and suggested that I had broken my system.
[12:33] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:08] <WeeBey> What screen recorder do you guys use for wayland? Cos that's why I was on xorg.
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> WeeBey: gnome has a built-in screenshot/ video now (prt sc button)
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> (on ubuntu 22.04 that is)
[13:11] <oerheks> lotuspsychje +1, else there is OBS studio
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> kazaam also nice, but didnt test it on wayland myself yet
[13:12] <WeeBey98> lotuspsychje, yeah, that's what I use on xorg!
[13:12] <WeeBey98> which was the first recommendation? I missed it.
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> WeeBey98: <lotuspsychje> WeeBey: gnome has a built-in screenshot/ video now (prt sc button)
[13:13] <WeeBey98> lotuspsychje, that's great. thanks!
[13:14] <WeeBey98> I'm reluctantly using Wayland because of the filechooser thing. But now there's other weird bugs. Jeez. I think I may go back to an older version when I get the chance. 20.04 could work as long as I install a new kernel that supports my harware.
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> WeeBey98: keep in mind on 22.04 a lot of bugs are still in process, if you want the more stable LTS way, awaiting 22.04.1 is adviced
[13:17] <WeeBey98> lotuspsychje, I'll hold on tight for now. I definitely don't have time to be rebuilding my system. Just trouble shooting all these annoyances is quite distracting.
[13:17] <WeeBey98> But, on the positive side, by installing the packages from the proposed repo, filechooser can now save files! :D
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> you are helping the ubuntu community testing it for sure
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> (and yourself)
[13:19] <WeeBey98> lotuspsychje, this is true. This is why I report back here. :-) And why I frowned at the comments telling me that it's my fault. lol
[13:19] <WeeBey98> the next bug I saw is that when I use the super to put a window to the right side and then super to put a window to the left side (using arrows), the left window is smaller. Doesn't go full half screen.
[13:19] <WeeBey98> This is in wayland, not xorg.
[13:20] <oerheks> Here filechooser in browser and nautilus saves files fine
[13:20] <WeeBey98> oerheks, wayland?
[13:21] <oerheks> yes
[13:21] <WeeBey98> oerheks, give xorg a try if you'd like to check. Launch brave/chrome/firefox as an example and press ctrl + s
[13:21] <WeeBey98> then without clicking anything, press ctrl + s again
[13:21] <WeeBey98> if you are getting the bug, it will pop up multiple instances of filechooser
[13:21] <WeeBey98> each with a larger dimension
[13:22] <WeeBey98> the reason why you can do ctrl+s multiple times in a row is because the background window remains in focus (the browsser/app)
[13:22] <oerheks> No, thanks.
[13:22] <WeeBey98> haha
[13:24] <WeeBey98> anyway, if you are curious: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/4136
[14:29] <Guest459> bitcfh helo
[14:29] <Guest459> windows foreva
[14:29] <Guest459> ubunty sucks
[14:32] <Guest459> https://w.metty.us/invite5674
[14:32] <leftyfb> Guest459: trolling is offtopic here. Feel free to join any other channel
[14:37] <l0k1> I have a problem in which I despair.... My notebook does not suspend. I have already spent hours trying to find a solution. Unfortunately, I have no more clues. It would be mega good if someone could help me.
[14:48] <WeeBey98> l0k1, I am in the same boat.
[14:48] <WeeBey98> what brand?
[14:49] <l0k1> Acer
[14:49] <WeeBey98> why does it not suspend?
[14:49] <WeeBey98>  (or what happens?_
[14:50] <l0k1> he suspends briefly and then goes directly out of the suspend again
[14:50] <l0k1> Getting these error: Lockdown: systemd-logind: hibernation is restricted; see man kernel_lockdown.7
[14:50] <WeeBey98> suspend loops?
[14:51] <l0k1> I tried already with secure boot with no change..
[14:51] <l0k1> no suspend loops
[14:51] <l0k1> withoud secure boot*
[14:51] <WeeBey98> try this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Razer_Blade#Infinite_suspend_loop
[14:53] <l0k1> i have no suspend loops
[14:54] <leftyfb> l0k1: https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/58077.html
[14:57] <l0k1> Mai 17 16:31:11 catchmeifyoucan ModemManager[727]: <info>  [sleep-monitor] system is about to suspend
[14:57] <l0k1> Mai 17 16:31:13 catchmeifyoucan systemd-sleep[4930]: Entering sleep state 'suspend'...
[14:57] <l0k1> Mai 17 16:31:13 catchmeifyoucan kernel: PM: suspend entry (deep)
[14:57] <l0k1> Mai 17 16:31:16 catchmeifyoucan kernel: printk: Suspending console(s) (use no_console_suspend to debug)
[14:57] <l0k1> Mai 17 16:31:17 catchmeifyoucan kernel: PM: suspend exit
[14:57] <l0k1> Mai 17 16:31:17 catchmeifyoucan systemd[1]: systemd-suspend.service: Deactivated successfully.
[14:57] <leftyfb> !paste | l0k1
[15:29] <l0k1> i have now set up my irc bouncer. please contact me if you can help me with the suspension problem.
[15:29] <leftyfb> l0k1: https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/58077.html
[16:40] <realivanjx> anyone tried ubuntu 22.04 on rpi4?
[16:41] <leftyfb> realivanjx: do you have a support question?
[16:42] <oerheks> there is a dedicated iso https://ubuntu.com/download/raspberry-pi
[16:42] <realivanjx> no just curious
[16:42] <oerheks> and server
[16:42] <realivanjx> the thing is im using a custom image so i can boot with an ssd
[16:42] <leftyfb> realivanjx: the answer is yes, people have tried it and it worked
[16:42] <realivanjx> success on 20.04 but idk on 22.04
[16:43] <waveform> realivanjx, you should be able to flash 22.04 straight to the ssd and boot; the boot sequence on jammy (actually back on groovy) changed to match the raspios boot sequence (just the native bootloader, no u-boot) so getting ubuntu booting off usb should "just work"
[16:44] <realivanjx> ok thx waveform
[16:45] <waveform> (for the record, two of my pis boot jammy off ssds, one running server, one running desktop)
[16:45] <realivanjx> waveform using the official image? not some custom image?
[16:46]  * oerheks wants a Turing Pi 2
[16:46] <waveform> the desktop one is a straight stock image (although it was upgraded from impish -- largely to test the upgrade path). The server one is fairly heavily customized to use LVM for storage largely because I do a *lot* of LXD container stuff on there (for testing), but I have tested the stock jammy images (server armhf, server arm64, and desktop arm64) booting off both SD cards and SSD drives
[16:47] <waveform> (this is all part of the pre-release testing, though I think the SSD part is not currently on the ISO tracker; I should add that at some point)
[17:14] <shush> How do I use `ufw` to allow all internal networking
[17:14] <shush> That is anything on eth1 interface (which is the internal network)
[17:21] <oerheks> for the desktop, install gufw
[17:21] <oerheks> !info gufw
[17:23] <shush> This is for server
[17:23] <oerheks> sudo ufw allow from 192.168.x.y/24  ###  change the line in /etc/default/ufw to DEFAULT_FORWARD_POLICY="ACCEPT"
[17:25] <shush> So far I have `sudo ufw allow in on eth1 comment "Internal networking (incoming)" && sudo ufw allow out on eth1 comment "Internal networking (outgoing)"`
[17:25] <oerheks> weird you have eth1 naming
[17:26] <leftyfb> shush: what release of ubuntu are you running and what sort of hardware is it installed on?
[17:27] <shush> Ubuntu 20.04 on a DigitalOcean droplet
[17:28] <leftyfb> shush: DO does non-standard things with their images and the way they do their VPS networking. You should reach out to DO for support. They're pretty responsive
[17:54] <shush> Okay
[17:54] <shush> I'll do that
[17:55] <shush> Thanks leftyfb
[17:55] <shush> Another question, will ufw block requests on 443 if the source port is not 443?
[17:55] <shush> Given `sudo ufw allow 80,443/tcp`
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> shush: you can always visit #netfilter or #networking too if you like
[18:15] <Ryu945> Any idea why this fails to boot after the drive has been unencrypted?   https://paste.centos.org/view/0fb04f36
[18:16] <oerheks> Ryu945, bad blocks? ask your fedora support?
[18:17] <sarnold> they'll probably ask you for error messages, it'd be worth adding that to your pastebin before asking :)
[18:17] <oerheks> yes, are there any?
[18:19] <leftyfb> Ryu945: why ask about Fedora in #ubuntu?
[18:26] <Ryu945> sarnold: how would I even see the error message?
[18:26] <sarnold> Ryu945: dunno, I've never used fedora
[18:27] <sarnold> Ryu945: I was hoping there'd be something there, though :) debugging problems without error messages isn't fun
[18:27] <leftyfb> Ryu945: please ask for support with Fedora in #fedora
[18:29] <oerheks> journalctrl could show something, i hope Fedora does not suffer this bug on brfs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1970066
[18:33] <ogra> oerheks, how would it be relevant to fedora that the combination of encrypted zfs and explicitly removing a snap wipes the dpkg database ?
[18:35] <leftyfb> ogra: they're running Fedora
[18:36] <leftyfb> ogra: have you seen a post from there elsewhere where they provided more information showing otherwise?
[18:37] <ogra> leftyfb, again, thies bug is only reproducable with encrypted zfs and then removing a snap ... which deletes the dpkg database ... how is any of this relevant to fedora ?
[18:37] <ogra> (who neither has zfs, nor snaps by default, nor dpkg ...)
[18:38] <oerheks> Nothing, really.
[18:39] <ogra> leftyfb, it is easily reproducable in a VM for anyone researching, i dont think it needs any more info, just some developer spare time to dig into such a broen VM
[18:39] <ogra> *broken
[18:41] <rasta> nvidia+wayland only in 22.04.1?
[18:41] <oerheks> There is a release for an open driver, not for all cards. not sure when it will appear...
[18:41] <ogra> should be selectable after a gdm update already
[18:42] <rasta> i can select ubuntu on wayland on the gdm gear thingy
[18:42] <ogra> (it will not become a default in 22.04 though i think, nvidia asked not to)
[18:42] <rasta> but after the login the only thing that happens is the ubuntu logo and no gnome desktop at all
[18:45] <leftyfb> ogra: I'm confused. Ryu945(no longer here because they probably weren't running Ubuntu) joined here asking for help with an encrypted filesystem(no mention of zf) not booting with what looks to be Fedora based on the fact that their stab was generated with anaconda, they had 2 fedora entries in their fstab, they were in #fedora and used centos.org for their pastebin. I saw no indication they were running Ubuntu, zfs or had any issues with snaps.
[18:46] <oerheks> I should not have made that joke.
[18:46] <ogra> heh
[18:46] <ogra> leftyfb, i simply didnt understand oerheks' joke ... that is all i think
[18:47] <leftyfb> ah, I guess I missed that context as well
[19:11] <AJ_Z0> New com.slack.Slack 4.26.1 flatpak crashing on launch with "[2 zypak-helper] Portal v4 is not available". Running 20.04.4 Desktop on x86_64. Can someone (not) reproduce this?
[19:13] <oerheks> we have snap as standard, i think there are a few flatpak users, what distro are you using?
[19:13] <oerheks> mint?
[19:13] <leftyfb> AJ_Z0: use the snap, otherwise, repo the bug with the flatpak maintainer
[19:14] <AJ_Z0> Looks like https://github.com/flathub/com.slack.Slack/issues/168 and possibly Wayland-related. I'm using Wayland.
[19:14] <leftyfb> AJ_Z0: ok, feel free to contribute to the flathub bug. Ubuntu doesn't officially support flatpaks
[19:16] <AJ_Z0> leftyfb: Thank you for the suggestion. I understand the support status. I was looking for a reproduction by a fellow flatpak user on the same platform, but that Github issue will suffice.
[19:16] <leftyfb> AJ_Z0: the snap works fine
[19:44] <dauggy> Question to folks who already upgraded to 22.04. Have you encountered any problems so far? Or is it stable and safe for the upgrade from 20.04?
[19:44] <AJ_Z0> leftyfb: Thanks for confirming. I see the snap has been updated to 4.26.1. I installed and successfully launched it.
[19:44] <sarnold> there's a few known issues on the release notes, it'd be worth skimming those
[19:45] <dauggy> sarnold: the 22.04.1 patch is expected to arrive in the summer, right?
[19:46] <sarnold> dauggy: yeah, I think I remeber seeing august, but I'm not positive
[19:47] <dauggy> sarnold: thank, I think I'll stick to the 20.04 at least until then
[19:48] <sarnold> dauggy: that's a solid plan :)
[21:03] <Mat101101> Hello. The thing is that the sudo command works when I enter my password, but the su command doesn't work with the same password. How does the su command work?
[21:04] <Jeremy31> Mat101101: su(root) password is disabled by default in Ubuntu
[21:04] <cbreak> Mat101101: sudo asks for your password (normally)
[21:04] <cbreak> su asks for the password of the account you want to become
[21:09] <Mat101101> So your comparison is because we created a user, for someone else
[21:11] <Mat101101> It's all good then.
[21:19] <GBGames> I have docker-compose and docker.io installed on my Ubuntu 20.04 machine, but now I am running into a limitation in which I can't seem to work with multiple architectures. It seems buildx and related tooling is not available. Anyone run into this? Is the only option to install docker using the non-Ubuntu packages?
[21:21] <ravage> for docker it is probably a good idea to use up to date packages from their website
[21:25] <GBGames> ravage: I think I will try to see if I can install the plugin that way, and if it still doesn't work out, then I'll install Docker for Desktop.
[22:13] <jones348962> my laptop (DELL XPS) has been running ubuntu 18.04 for a long time on bare metal, but suddenly Xorg is running 100% cpu, and glxinfo -B shows that the renderer is actually VMWare (llvmpipe), anyone know why x would start using that renderer instead of the regular one?
[22:14] <jones348962> and what i might do to fix it? having trouble finding anything on our wonderful human search engines
[22:19] <jones348962> also ... i just discovered that it suddenly can't find my wifi device either
[22:20] <sarnold> are you sure you ssh'd into the machine you think you did? :)
[22:20] <oerheks> fastboot enabled?
[22:20] <morganu> I want to check the size of my home folder and I dont seem to seee a way in GUI. I did THIS after googling. Is it correct?  $ pwd  GOT /home/myname THEN $ du -sh  GOT 130G
[22:21] <jones348962> sarnold: i wish it were that :)  it's a physical laptop lol
[22:22] <oerheks> jones348962, some got this fixed by removing amd.gpu.conf https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1916798/comments/3
[22:22] <oerheks> unless you have nvidia..
[22:22] <sarnold> morganu: there's various tools to try to do gui versions of du if you want one, eg https://github.com/jeromerobert/k4dirstat
[22:22] <morganu> jones348962, FYI 18.04 is terrible on radio and I urge you to update if you use it on wifi. (But I have an HP laptop and 18.04 wifi was pretty unusable.
[22:23] <morganu> sarnold, I just want to check if what I did was correct. Knowing GUI is good but if I keep getting better at bash, so much the better.
[22:23] <sarnold> morganu: yeah, I use du -sh all the time :)
[22:23] <morganu> perfect
[22:24] <jones348962> unfortunately no blacklist-nvidia there :(
[22:24] <leftyfb> morganu: try ncdu
[22:25] <morganu> the new flash drives are so big I can back up my 20.04 partition (/home is all I need, right?) and install 22.04 yay!
[22:26] <morganu> leftyfb, I am gooddging it now as we speak
[22:26] <leftyfb> morganu: sudo apt install ncdu   # then just run sudo ncdu /
[22:27] <k4rma> does ncdu create a mirror?
[22:27] <leftyfb> k4rma: ncdu is just tell you how much space a directory structure is taking up
[22:27] <k4rma> oh
[22:27] <morganu> thanks leftyfb human readable too
[22:29] <morganu> q
[22:35] <morganu> [15:22:43] <sarnold> morganu: there's various tools to try to do gui versions of du if you want one, eg https://github.com/jeromerobert/k4dirstat
[22:35] <morganu> SORRY, I have become a faulty clicker today.
[22:35] <sarnold> hehe
[22:38] <overclucker> I use ncdu -x / will exclude mounts
[23:18] <jhutchins> I find du -sh /* fairly useful to start tracking down disk abuse.
[23:22] <leftyfb> hm. I had 20.04 on a laptop I'm building, X forwarding was working perfectly fine. I wiped it, installed 22.04, set WaylandEnable=false, rebooted and confirmed XDG_SESSION_TYPE=x11 but x forwarding isn't working
[23:23] <sarnold> X11 doesn't listen on tcp by default for a few years -- did you perhaps modify the -nolisten tcp thing two years ago and not carry that forward?
[23:24] <leftyfb> where would that have been?
[23:24] <leftyfb> I don't recall doing anything like that though
[23:24] <sarnold> probably /etc/X11/xinit/serverrc, but I've also got it in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers because I'm an odd duck and use xdm, hehe
[23:26] <leftyfb> nope, I just compared xserverrc from the 20.04 backup and the 22.04 install. They're identical
[23:26] <sarnold> :(
[23:26] <sarnold> grep -r nolisten /etc/X11 and see if you've got a different config involved?
[23:27] <leftyfb> only in xserverrc
[23:28] <leftyfb> you think removing -"nolisten tcp" might do it though? Still doesn't explain why it worked before without the modification
[23:30] <leftyfb> that didn't work
[23:30] <sarnold> dang :(
[23:30] <sarnold> sometimes guessing the solution works, sometimes it's a waste of time :( sorry
[23:30] <sarnold> what error?
[23:31] <leftyfb> the usual :# Failed to parse arguments: Cannot open display:
[23:31] <leftyfb> or You need to run terminator in an X environment. Make sure $DISPLAY is properly set
[23:33] <leftyfb> woah, found i
[23:33] <leftyfb> it
[23:34] <leftyfb> now I gotta update my ansible
[23:34] <leftyfb> X11UseLocalhost=no
[23:34] <leftyfb> that was missing on my install but was present on the 20.04
[23:34] <sarnold> yay!
[23:36] <leftyfb> sorry, should have spent more time in google :)
[23:51] <supremekai> Hey guys, how can I "map" all the main services / packages (i.e., all main software) installed in a certain VPS? I have an ubuntu 20.04 vps and I'm trying to replicate most of the services on another one, without using snapshot, do u guys know any package or even gist that may provide me an overview of the VPS main software and packages (including version) installed and/or running?
[23:53] <sarnold> supremekai: dpkg --get-selections  on one machine, dpkg --set-selections on the other machine, then try an apt install -f and see how it goes
[23:53] <supremekai> thnks sarnold !
[23:53] <supremekai> sarnold, but how can I "export" the dpkg --get-selections
[23:54] <sarnold> supremekai: if you want something a bit more human-oriented, dpkg -l | grep ^ii is nice
[23:54] <sarnold> supremekai: dpkg --get-selections | ssh root@remote-hostname dpkg --set-selections
[23:54] <supremekai> nice!
[23:54] <sarnold> or shell redirections
[23:54] <sarnold> or whatever :)
[23:54] <supremekai> will it install all services?
[23:54] <supremekai> can I do like: dpkg --get-selections > list.txt
[23:55] <sarnold> yeah
[23:55] <supremekai> and import that list.txt at dpkg --set-selections at machine 2
[23:55] <sarnold> dpkg --set-selections < list.txt
[23:55] <supremekai> nice! Will it install all packages both the apt and snapd (and even pip packages from python)?
[23:56] <sarnold> that's just dpkg; I have no idea on snap, pip, cargo, npm, docker, etc :(
[23:57] <supremekai> I will test it out! Thank you very much sarnold! I appreciate it!