| nicoz | o/* | 13:00 |
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| mclemenceau | o/ | 15:00 |
| juliank | o/ | 15:00 |
| slyon | o/ | 15:01 |
| ginggs | o/ | 15:01 |
| bdmurray | o/ | 15:01 |
| ogayot | o/ | 15:01 |
| enr0n | o/ | 15:01 |
| bdrung | o/ | 15:01 |
| dbungert | o/ | 15:01 |
| alexghiti | o/ | 15:01 |
| schopin | o/ | 15:01 |
| juliank | #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team | 15:01 |
| meetingology | Meeting started at 15:01:45 UTC. The chair is juliank. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 15:01 |
| jawn-smith | o/ | 15:01 |
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| juliank | #topic Lightning Round | 15:02 |
| * vorlon waves | 15:02 | |
| juliank | The status is here https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-19-may-2022/28413 | 15:02 |
| bdmurray | I found the maysync vs willsync write up very useful. | 15:02 |
| juliank | Let's give everyone a chance to read up and ask questions | 15:02 |
| juliank | I'll go read last week's backlog shortly and update our meeting script a bit | 15:03 |
| bdmurray | slyon: ^ | 15:03 |
| slyon | yes. I wasn't aware that *ubuntu* version strings are ignored by the auto-sync | 15:03 |
| slyon | so the investigation was useful for me as well | 15:03 |
| bdmurray | I think emailing ubuntu-devel about it would be useful. | 15:04 |
| jawn-smith | waveform: have you had a chance to look at https://code.launchpad.net/~jawn-smith/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+git/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+merge/421557 ? | 15:04 |
| slyon | It will be part of my +1 report, to be send out shortly | 15:04 |
| bdmurray | I wonder if it will get lost in there. | 15:04 |
| bdmurray | i.e. do people read those? | 15:04 |
| slyon | ack. I might send an additional extra email just for that | 15:04 |
| waveform | jawn-smith, I've looked at the code but not had a chance to actually run it yet | 15:05 |
| bdmurray | slyon: Do you know much about the move to iwd? | 15:05 |
| juliank | Oh I forgot to hit the send button on my status, done now | 15:05 |
| jawn-smith | okay thanks. We're trying to coordinate that SRU with another so we only have to do one upload | 15:05 |
| juliank | Sorry | 15:05 |
| slyon | bdmurray: I did run some testing around iwd a while ago: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/call-for-testing-improved-wifi-via-iwd/17795/58 | 15:06 |
| slyon | And I just completed the MIR review, so I know that the desktop team plans to switch to iwd by default this cycle (22.10) | 15:06 |
| waveform | jawn-smith, okay -- will try and squeeze that in this afternoon | 15:06 |
| juliank | ooh scary | 15:06 |
| juliank | I should try iwd again | 15:06 |
| bdmurray | Okay, I think that's all I really need to know. | 15:06 |
| bdmurray | We all should try iwd! | 15:07 |
| slyon | juliank: it works pretty nicely for me, running it for 1y+ | 15:07 |
| juliank | Last time it stuck to the wrong network or something :D | 15:07 |
| juliank | Any other questions? | 15:07 |
| slyon | that discourse thread from above should give some recent enough instructions on how to best use it | 15:07 |
| juliank | OK, Let's move on then | 15:08 |
| juliank | #topic Release incoming bugs | 15:08 |
| juliank | #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-kk-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 15:08 |
| juliank | bug 1974115 | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | I think that's a pretty straightforward card and target | 15:09 |
| juliank | where's the bot? | 15:09 |
| slyon | +1 | 15:09 |
| bdmurray | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/binutils/+bug/1974115 | 15:09 |
| mclemenceau | thx, I'll card that | 15:09 |
| juliank | bug 574287 | 15:10 |
| ubottu | Bug 574287 in tasksel (Ubuntu) "tasksel: forcefully removes packages when tasks overlap" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/574287 | 15:10 |
| juliank | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tasksel/+bug/574287 | 15:10 |
| juliank | ugh hello ubottu | 15:10 |
| bdmurray | that's already carded so next | 15:10 |
| juliank | https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 15:10 |
| juliank | bug 1971987 | 15:11 |
| ubottu | Bug 1971987 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "On release upgrade, Snaps don't change channel" [High, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1971987 | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | I agree with the last comment there | 15:11 |
| juliank | Should this be Incomplete? | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | Given what we've seen in the logs the behavior is expected. | 15:12 |
| vorlon | close invalid? | 15:12 |
| juliank | ack | 15:12 |
| vorlon | target and close invalid :) | 15:12 |
| vorlon | (so if it legitimately reopens, we follow up?) | 15:12 |
| vorlon | oh or maybe it's better not to target so that if it reopens it ends up back in our queue here | 15:13 |
| juliank | I removed the label though | 15:13 |
| bdmurray | Yes, we don't look at rls-**-tracking often | 15:13 |
| juliank | should it get another label? | 15:13 |
| bdmurray | I'd leave the label and set it Invalid | 15:13 |
| juliank | ok | 15:14 |
| juliank | bug 1968845 is incomplete, I think there's nothing to see there? | 15:14 |
| ubottu | Bug 1968845 in dbus (Ubuntu) "Upgrade to 22.04 from 20.04 ends with dbus installation asking for a reboot" [High, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1968845 | 15:14 |
| juliank | bug 1971474 is a straightforward-ish SRU request from doko | 15:15 |
| ubottu | Bug 1971474 in gdb (Ubuntu) "SRU: Update gdb to the final 12.1 release in 22.04 LTS" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1971474 | 15:15 |
| juliank | mclemenceau: wanna card this? | 15:16 |
| mclemenceau | sure thing | 15:16 |
| juliank | https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs is empty | 15:16 |
| slyon | <empty> | 15:16 |
| juliank | https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 15:16 |
| juliank | 11 bugs in there | 15:16 |
| bdmurray | bb we don't look at because nobody should be running that | 15:17 |
| juliank | do we want to look at them? | 15:17 |
| juliank | heh | 15:17 |
| juliank | Let's move on then | 15:17 |
| juliank | #topic Team proposed-migration report | 15:17 |
| juliank | #link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs | 15:17 |
| vorlon | only 54 packages late | 15:18 |
| vorlon | a lot of this is going to still be waiting on autopkgtest results due to the armhf queue, but it's still worth looking at | 15:18 |
| vorlon | openjdk-lts was waiting on a test result that got lost, so I've just retriggered all tests > 15 days that were "running" | 15:19 |
| vorlon | alexghiti: were you still looking at the mercurial autopkgtest regression on git? | 15:19 |
| vorlon | there seem to be several autopkgtest regressions here that all need looked at | 15:20 |
| alexghiti | Yes, spent some hours on a flaky test, asked the mailing list, still waiting | 15:20 |
| vorlon | which mailing list? | 15:20 |
| juliank | we also run on bos01 atm, so it might still have network regressions | 15:21 |
| alexghiti | mercurial-devel: https://marc.info/?l=mercurial-devel&r=1&b=202205&w=2 | 15:21 |
| juliank | I retried the bos01 runs last week, but I can rerun them again if people think that's useful, so we get all bos01 failures retried on bos02 | 15:21 |
| vorlon | if the test is flaky, can we please either get the test retried, or patched out so it doesn't fail the test suite, rather than waiting for upstream? | 15:21 |
| alexghiti | Ok I can do patch it out then | 15:22 |
| vorlon | juliank: we should probably retry all failed tests >7 days at this point | 15:22 |
| juliank | all, not just bos01? | 15:22 |
| vorlon | yeah | 15:22 |
| juliank | ack | 15:22 |
| vorlon | anyway, that still leaves several other issues required in order to unblock git. alexghiti can you take those also, or should we get another volunteer? | 15:22 |
| alexghiti | I can take those | 15:23 |
| vorlon | thanks | 15:23 |
| juliank | although I guess bdmurray can do that retrying, being QA team and all :) | 15:23 |
| bdmurray | Yeah, I'll do that | 15:23 |
| xnox | ubuntu-release team, could you please start building jammy lts dailies? cause we need both focal dailies and jammy dailies for now right? https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/ubuntu-cdimage/jammy-dailies/+merge/423028 | 15:24 |
| vorlon | boost1.74: this is listed as a candidate but I don't see it in https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt so this needs some digging | 15:24 |
| vorlon | xnox: ECHAN | 15:24 |
| ginggs | it recently migrated i think | 15:24 |
| ginggs | i got mail | 15:25 |
| vorlon | ginggs: ah, thanks | 15:25 |
| vorlon | cmake - who wants this? | 15:25 |
| vorlon | bdrung: you took onetbb; are you still working on this? | 15:26 |
| jawn-smith | I can take a look at cyrus-ampd and sagemath | 15:26 |
| vorlon | jawn-smith: thanks | 15:26 |
| jawn-smith | well, that was one way to spell imapd | 15:26 |
| bdrung | onetbb is still on my list. | 15:27 |
| vorlon | sagemath is flaky fwiw, looks like timeouts | 15:27 |
| jawn-smith | okay thanks | 15:27 |
| vorlon | so I've just given back that particular test | 15:27 |
| vorlon | source-highlight, has likely migrated w/ boost | 15:27 |
| ginggs | yes | 15:27 |
| vorlon | dh-golang, waiting for dpkg, which is waiting for armhf tests | 15:27 |
| vorlon | libevent: mysql-8.0 on i386. waveform you still have this? | 15:28 |
| waveform | was unable to reproduce in a container locally; may just be a timeout | 15:28 |
| vorlon | a lot of carry-overs from last week, reminder that the expectation is that you make time to resolve these before the next meeting, please | 15:28 |
| vorlon | waveform: next steps? | 15:29 |
| waveform | was going to dig a little further and then "just retry" if I got nowhere | 15:29 |
| vorlon | waveform: let's "just retry" sooner rather than later | 15:29 |
| waveform | ok | 15:29 |
| vorlon | (button puhsed) | 15:29 |
| vorlon | libpng1.6, armhf autopkgtest regression | 15:30 |
| vorlon | ah but it was an error not a fail; retrying | 15:31 |
| vorlon | readline? | 15:31 |
| vorlon | enr0n: you still working on this? | 15:31 |
| enr0n | ruby-build is new since last week, I can look | 15:31 |
| enr0n | And slyon sponsored a gnudatalanguage fix for me earlier | 15:32 |
| vorlon | enr0n: probably just needs retries, this is a test progression that britney mis-flags as a regression | 15:32 |
| enr0n | vorlon: ack | 15:32 |
| vorlon | gnudatalanguage is likely going to require more effort | 15:32 |
| enr0n | What makes you say that? | 15:32 |
| vorlon | enr0n: because it's gdl and I know it by name | 15:32 |
| vorlon | "oh great what's broken with gdl this time" | 15:33 |
| enr0n | :D | 15:33 |
| vorlon | dash - doko, you still on this? | 15:34 |
| vorlon | built now but the autopkgtests regress everywhere | 15:34 |
| vorlon | file - bdmurray ? | 15:34 |
| juliank | gnudatalanguage as gdl confused me a bit because gdl also exists, it's "GNOME DevTool libraries" | 15:34 |
| juliank | :D | 15:34 |
| juliank | are we missing a new debian-archive-keyring? | 15:35 |
| bdmurray | Sure, I'll look at file. | 15:35 |
| vorlon | licensecheck needs MIRing - schopin ? | 15:35 |
| juliank | (that was re dash, it fails signature checks for debian) | 15:36 |
| schopin | sure | 15:36 |
| vorlon | doko: pillow still with you? | 15:36 |
| slyon | schopin: there's a template already: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libindirect-perl/+bug/1972853 | 15:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1972853 in libxs-parse-sublike-perl (Ubuntu) "[MIR] lib*-perl" [Undecided, Incomplete] | 15:36 |
| schopin | slyon: thanks! | 15:36 |
| bdrung | juliank, yes, very likely that we just need to install debian-archive-keyring for the dash test suite | 15:36 |
| vorlon | pinentry, apparently this was assigned to me because i386 ;) will follow through | 15:37 |
| vorlon | xypron, ogayot: are you still working on requests? | 15:37 |
| ogayot | I have submitted a patch for requests in bug 1974182. Need a sponsor at the moment | 15:37 |
| ubottu | Bug 1974182 in requests (Ubuntu) "Autopkgtest fails when HTTP proxy is used" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1974182 | 15:37 |
| doko | vorlon: yes, both | 15:38 |
| vorlon | doko: thanks | 15:38 |
| vorlon | I can look at sponsoring today | 15:39 |
| vorlon | sphinx needs some attention. ginggs ? | 15:39 |
| ginggs | sure | 15:39 |
| vorlon | squashfs-tools vs systemd - dbungert ? | 15:39 |
| dbungert | vorlon: ack | 15:40 |
| vorlon | libgpg-error - slyon ? | 15:40 |
| slyon | vorlon: ok | 15:40 |
| vorlon | does anyone not have one for this week? | 15:40 |
| ogayot | I don't | 15:40 |
| bdrung | \o | 15:40 |
| vorlon | ogayot: oh, I thought there was still work for you on requests - would you like pycurl instead? | 15:41 |
| ogayot | yes, I can take pycurl | 15:41 |
| vorlon | thanks | 15:41 |
| vorlon | juliank: back to you | 15:41 |
| ginggs | there's a another MIR in sphinx | 15:41 |
| juliank | #topic AOB | 15:41 |
| ginggs | sphinx-common/amd64 in main cannot depend on libunicode-escape-perl in universe | 15:42 |
| slyon | ginggs: that's also perl-* packages from the same team | 15:42 |
| schopin | ginggs: It's in my lot. | 15:42 |
| slyon | should probably be combined with the other MIR | 15:42 |
| ginggs | ok thanks | 15:42 |
| vorlon | fwiw the pinentry/i386 dep wait is on qtwayland. We are not building the qt stack to unblock pinentry :P will patch pinentry | 15:42 |
| mclemenceau | bug 1974196 came to my attention during this meeting, might as well review it | 15:42 |
| ubottu | Bug 1974196 in systemd (Ubuntu) "Installing libudev1 on a new Jammy installation uninstalls many packages." [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1974196 | 15:42 |
| slyon | mclemenceau: this sounds like a SRU candidate for .1 | 15:45 |
| mclemenceau | slyon: Ack | 15:45 |
| slyon | should be easiy to reproduce/verify. and then might need some update to the versioned dependencies. | 15:46 |
| slyon | do you want to card that? | 15:46 |
| juliank | i wonder if that is a phased update issue? | 15:46 |
| juliank | but I guess not | 15:46 |
| slyon | juliank: he had jammy-updates disabled | 15:46 |
| slyon | so probably not related to phased updates.. | 15:46 |
| juliank | ok but then it's not a bug | 15:46 |
| dbungert | vorlon: squashfs-tools vs systemd is going to be a retry due to systemd upstream-1 tests. Would you like to assign another? | 15:46 |
| vorlon | dbungert: you can also have binutils :) | 15:47 |
| dbungert | ack | 15:47 |
| juliank | the image is built with updates, if you disable it, you can't install packages that need older versions | 15:47 |
| juliank | ah ok | 15:47 |
| juliank | I may be confused :D | 15:48 |
| juliank | but ubuntu:jammy is getting refreshed with updates from -updates installed, no? | 15:48 |
| juliank | so the dockerfile idea of installing from base like that doesn't work | 15:48 |
| juliank | long term | 15:48 |
| juliank | Probably a weird effect of dependency solving in apt, but oh well | 15:51 |
| juliank | Worth investigating more | 15:51 |
| slyon | ack | 15:51 |
| juliank | Anything else? | 15:52 |
| juliank | 3 | 15:52 |
| juliank | 2 | 15:52 |
| juliank | 1 | 15:52 |
| juliank | #endmeeting | 15:52 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 15:52:42 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2022/ubuntu-meeting.2022-05-19-15.01.moin.txt | 15:52 |
| mclemenceau | o/ | 15:52 |
| slyon | o/ | 15:53 |
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