[00:17] <s0ulslack> afternoon, so I'm in rescuse mode trying to stop wireguard from coming up on boot cause its hosing something
[00:18] <s0ulslack> got the hd mounted, any pointers?
[00:19] <sarnold> I think it'll depend on how you configured wireguard; if you used the wg-quick tool, check out systemctl list-units 'wg-quick@*'  or something like that
[00:21] <s0ulslack> No luck sarnold
[00:22] <s0ulslack> Indeed though, using the wg-quick method via systemd
[00:24] <sarnold> s0ulslack: hrm :( I was hoping it'd be a quick 'yes that looks like it' then you're just one systemctl disable away from being done.. maybe check /etc/systemd/ and /lib/systemd/ and all those usual places to find the configs by hand?
[00:26] <s0ulslack> yes sir, nothing
[00:26] <s0ulslack> its strange as hell
[00:30] <sarnold> s0ulslack: well, the next guesses would be netplan, which generates sytemd-networkd configs.. after that, maybe a local init script..
[00:32] <Unit193> If it is causing a problem, I'd guess one of your post-up wg hooks is written to do bad things™
[00:33] <s0ulslack> Sorry, not too used to Ubuntu. netplan?
[00:33] <Bashing-om> !netplan | s0ulslack
[00:52] <lmat> I'm using shutter to take a screen shot. How do I use shutter to upload the screen shot to imgur as a guest?
[00:52] <lmat> I have looked online a lot and there are many threads on how to STOP uploading as guest and upload to my own account. I don't want that.
[00:53] <lmat> When I go to shutter preferences then click "Upload" on the left, there are three entries: vgyme, Gyazo, and ToileLibre. I think I'm wanting to add an imgur option.
[00:53] <lmat> Really, any of these would be fine if they can allow me to share screenshots (for instance) over IRC.
[00:55] <sarnold> I suspect it hasn't worked in a while https://bugs.launchpad.net/shutter/+bug/1565048
[00:55] <sarnold> oh another user provided a replacement in a comment
[00:57] <s0ulslack> sarnold: so I've got some wg-quick.service and .target files in /lib/systemd/system after looking harder
[00:59] <sarnold> s0ulslack: those are 'just' the templates, the instances will have the configuration that's used in the ExecStart= line in the templates..
[01:01] <s0ulslack> here goes a reboot
[01:02] <lmat> sarnold: Okay, thank you.
[01:05] <s0ulslack> Man, that was the first remote episode I've had in abit haha
[01:05] <s0ulslack> Thanks sarnold
[01:05] <sarnold> s0ulslack: is your system back and happy?
[01:06] <s0ulslack> Indeed. Now if I can get my cheeks to release this portion of chair we're good ;)
[01:06] <sarnold> hahahaha
[01:06] <s0ulslack> Now I'mma not wanna try wireguard on the vps again
[01:07] <sarnold> heh, yeah, I want to set up a wireguard vps but don't want to try converting the one I'm currently using for irssi.. I want to start over from scratch with a new system that's got no baggage and I don't expect to be online all the time :)
[01:33] <linsux> will i be in trouble if i remove snapd in ubuntu 22.04?
[01:35] <oerheks> parts of gnome are snaps, so yes.
[01:35] <sarnold> linsux: run snap list to see what snaps you're using; if you don't care about those, then you won't miss it much
[01:36] <linsux> but i heard that system upgrade needs to use snap?
[01:36] <linsux> is that true?
[01:37] <sarnold> it depends on who said what, exactly :)
[01:37] <sarnold> upgrading from previous releases will bring in snap if it wasn't already there, since you've probably got firefox installed, and firefox is packaged as a snap in 22.04
[01:39] <linsux> i installed firefox ppa and removed firefox from snapd
[01:40] <linsux> and then i removed all apps one by one in snap and finally uninstalled snapd
[01:40] <linsux> i prefer flatpak over snap
[01:41] <sarnold> linsux: keep an eye on that firefox ppa. I wouldn't be surprised if it stops getting updates eventually.
[01:46] <jhutchins> Pretty sure it's in Mozilla's interest to make sure certified .deb packages are available.
[01:46] <jhutchins> Of course, Canonical could require the Firefox Snap, even for servers.
[01:48] <sarnold> jhutchins: I keep hearing that mozilla wanted to control the packaging, and mozilla didn't want to deal with seven differnt versions of rust, and mozilla didn't want to deal with backporting rust to seven different releases, so mozilla wanted the snap to have a single package
[02:02] <jhutchins> Also possible.
[02:03] <jhutchins> It seems like I've seen most snap packaging happening downstream of projects though, more on the distribution level.
[02:04] <leftyfb> linsux: you asked the same question almost a year ago and again last month.
[03:50] <biapy> hi
[03:51] <biapy> does anyone know how to debug osd-window ? it popup at the bottom of my screen with a crossed circle icon, and nothing shows in logs.
[05:35] <xiaoai> Gtk-Message: 23:30:07.361: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
[05:35] <xiaoai> when starting firefox on Ubuntu 2204
[05:37] <enigma9o7[m]> Sounds Australian.  I wouldn't trust it.
[05:37] <r2t2> lol enigma9o7[m]
[06:01] <Khepra> What's the difference between home and personal-files  snap connections? I've read about the items in snap developers documentation, but I still don't get it. for example, if I disable both for the firefox snap, it can't install addons or save files, and I'd assume it'd do so inside ~/snap/.... somewhere
[07:05] <pagios> good morning, i would like to add users on a linux box and provide only access to certain commands ( like ftp, top, nload, etc) What is the best way to do this? should i install any restricted  shell or better to do it using sudoers ?
[07:30] <iomari891> greetings, My terminal suddenly restarts after a few minutes now as if I just started it. I just suddenly get a new login prompt. I have checked my dmesg logs and I don't see what is causing it. Any ideas where tostart?
[07:31] <iomari891> not rebooting, just restarting.
[07:32] <SteelRose> iomari891: do you mean your terminal in a graphical environment or your terminal as in the console?
[07:34] <SteelRose> iomari891: are you 100% that you are not using the keyboard shortcuts unwillingly to open a new terminal (assuming that you are using X11) and it opens on top of the old one?
[07:36] <iomari891> SteelRose: No. FOr instance, I could be editing a file in vim and suddenly the terminal (quake in this case) will restart as if I just logged in.
[07:36] <iomari891> The problem is no quake because the same thing happens in any terminal.
[07:37] <SteelRose> iomari891: please, use a proper terminal... the quake terminal is a toy :-)  YMMV
[07:37] <iomari891> SteelRose: like I said. It happens in any terminal I use.
[07:37] <SteelRose> iomari891: is this a new system?
[07:37] <iomari891> By the way, I'm not on the server, it's a ssh session.
[07:38] <iomari891> Not new
[07:38] <iomari891> this just started a few days ago.
[07:39] <SteelRose> so, your ssh connection dies and you have to log back in again?
[07:40] <iomari891> No. It doesn't die. It just restarts as If I just connected for the first time.
[07:42] <iomari891> BTW, why is quake a toy?
[07:43] <iomari891> What would you consider a good terminal that drops down?
[07:55] <pagios> when i am running from root chroot /home/user1 /usr/bin/sh   i get /usr/bin/sh no such dir, even though the file exist
[08:14] <SteelRose> iomari891: for me it's a toy... a matter of taste, I guess. I don't like drop-down consoles... I'm too classical for some stuff :-)
[08:15] <SteelRose> iomari891: do you see any error message, either in /var/log/syslog or on screen?
[08:19] <SteelRose> iomari891: if you ssh from your own computer to the server, it might be a firewall in between closing the connections after some idle time, or somethin on the server side...
[08:19] <SteelRose> which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[08:31] <iomari891> SteelRose: the server is 20.04
[08:33] <SteelRose> iomari891: check the sshd config there... we also run servers with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS and connections are rock-solid
[08:36] <iomari891> SteelRose: My connections have been rock solid also for over a year. This just started. But I'll check my sshd_config to make sure.
[08:38] <SteelRose> iomari891: any recent updates?
[08:46] <iomari891> the usual sudo apt update/upgrades
[08:47] <SteelRose> check whether sshd was affected
[08:50] <blahdeblah> Hi.  Anyone know what the correct URL to initiate an HTTP(S) install is under 22.04?
[08:50] <blahdeblah> I previously used <MIRROR>/ubuntu/dists/<DIST>/main/installer-amd64/ as an HTTP source for libvirt installs, but that tree is empty now - is there a replacement?
[09:10] <mefju> morning
[09:11] <luna> mew
[09:11] <iomari891> SteelRose: too earl to tell yet but I think the problem is autossh. Im using the default ssh client and the session has not restarted yet. I'll watch it for another 10 or 15 inutes to confirm. IF so, I don't know why autossh would suddenly start misbehaving after over a year..
[12:02] <gomez> hi anybody that can help on rsyslog config question?
[12:03] <gomez> Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/757a6ed34bd73ae6db9bb14ff232dcda/pasted.txt
[12:04] <gomez> above is example log message i receive, i want to send message to seperate file based on the value of column 53
[12:06] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:08] <gomez> maybe i can do this using a template and property field.number
[12:08] <gomez> if anybody can point me in good direction or provide good example
[12:26] <Ntemis> i cant update to 22.04 any help?
[12:26] <Ntemis> am on 20.04 and system wants to take me to 21.10 so i declined
[12:27] <gordonjcp> Ntemis: I don't think you can go from 20.04 to 22.04 in one go
[12:29] <Maik> gordonjcp: you can do LTS to LTS upgrades in one go
[12:30] <Maik> !ltsupgrade | Ntemis
[12:31] <sophie> Prompt=lts needs to be set in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades   then run sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[12:31] <Ntemis> sudo do-release-upgrade -d takes me to impish
[12:32] <sophie> check your release-upgrades file. make sure Prompt=lts is set instead of Prompt=normal
[12:32] <Maik> Ntemis: set the upgrade to LTS only in Sodtware & Updates
[12:33] <Maik> it's under the Updates tab
[12:33] <Ntemis> done
[12:33] <gordonjcp> Maik: oh, okay, I've never got it to work
[12:33] <Ntemis> switched to jammy now
[12:42] <Ntemis> Tere is no development version of an LTS available
[12:42] <Ntemis> Thereis no development version of an LTS available
[12:42] <Ntemis> now?
[12:45] <Jeremy31> maybe drop the -d
[12:50] <iveahugeship> Hi there. Can someone help me? I create image ubuntu-server22.04 with packer using curtin. So, autoinstall is passed but after that VM just reboots. Are there ways to poweroff ubuntu after autoinstall?
[12:52] <Maik> Jeremy31: that doesn't work as of yet
[12:53] <Maik> at least not when i upgraded
[12:53] <iveahugeship> Oh. Do u know maybe is it planned?
[12:53] <ogra> by august, as usual
[12:54] <Maik> !ltsupgrade | iveahugeship
[12:54] <ogra> (LTSes only enable upgrades without -d by the first point release, since they exist ...)
[12:55] <ioria> iveahugeship, power_state mode: poweroff  is not working ?
[12:57] <iveahugeship> it works but affects installed system :c
[13:01] <iveahugeship> Okay, it have to make a wrapper around packer to shutdown vm correctly. Thx a lot for help guys!
[13:14] <Guest76> how would i go about running an x11 application on a remote system with ssh, so that the gui for it appears on the remote system (not my system, not not x11 forwarding)?
[13:15] <leftyfb> Guest76: X forwarding is the only way
[13:17] <Guest76> how would i set it up with x forwarding?
[13:18] <leftyfb> Guest76: https://www.answertopia.com/ubuntu/displaying-ubuntu-applications-remotely-x11-forwarding/
[13:25] <hans_> what is the last LTS ubuntu with 32bit support? 18.04? 20.04?
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> 18.04 hans_
[13:25] <hans_> thanks
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> hans_: see also !esm to see how long you can still extend it
[13:27] <hans_> !esm
[13:29] <iveahugeship> Update to autoinstall discussion. I decided the problem with shutdown using late-command with 'shutdown' :)
[14:04] <nbusrone> hi anyone know how test which samba version ?  plug in a usb on router and access the file using samba but i can seem to check which samba version my router is using . Try 'smbstatus' show nothing connected
[14:04] <leftyfb> nbusrone: apt-cache policy samba
[14:09] <leftyfb> nbusrone: if you're asking about what version samba your router is running, and the router isn't running ubuntu, I don't know if there is a way. But it's also not ubuntu
[14:12] <nbusrone> but when i connected to the router ubuntu should be able to check which version of samba protocal
[14:13] <nbusrone> maybe any log for samba ?
[14:22] <leftyfb> nbusrone: smbstatus is mainly meant to check the status of the samba server it's running on. It's not installed with the clients
[14:23] <leftyfb> nbusrone: you can use nmap --script smb-protocols <ip address> # to tell you the advertised supported smb protocols
[14:27] <zqf> 51545
[14:27] <Sven_vB> hi :)
[14:28] <Sven_vB> in focal, how can I chmod g+w only files that are writable for the owner? i.e., can I chmod do it or do I need sth. like find -exec?
[14:29] <leftyfb> you need find and/or a script
[14:30] <Sven_vB> thanks
[14:30] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: I do not suggest doing that in any system directories
[14:30] <Sven_vB> yeah that would seem odd
[14:31] <Sven_vB> but a good reminder that in my find criteria I should also check groub
[14:31] <Sven_vB> *group
[14:37] <anonymous_> Good afternoon All, I hope everyone's doing great. Quick question: I successfully installed ubuntu on a USB stick and it connects to wifi network from Laptop 1 no issue. When I boot it from Laptop 2, it remembers the wifi password, but it doesn't connect to the router. After some investigation, I have realized two different MAC addresses are connecting to the router, so this causes the issue. I was wondering if
[14:37] <anonymous_> you had any advice on how to flexibly use the same USB Ubuntu Sticker on multiple Laptops, without having Wifi issure related to MAC address. Thanks
[14:41] <Jeremy31> anonymous_: You could try disabling the predictable network interface naming
[14:45] <Sven_vB> another method would be to use a pluggable wifi antenna, i.e. via USB, to carry over the hardware ID
[14:49] <oerheks> why would mac address prevent connecting? Seems like a router issue more likely, mac filter?
[14:50] <Jeremy31> Ubuntu Network Manager can lock the connection to one interface
[14:51] <oerheks> Jeremy31, but 2 laptops?
[14:51] <anonymous_> Hi Jeremy31, did i miss something? my connection dropped
[14:51] <Jeremy31> anonymous_: You could try disabling the predictable network interface naming
[14:52] <Jeremy31> oerheks: I have used a lot of different wifi cards on this laptop
[14:52] <anonymous_> Jeremy31, could you lead me how to do? I am not new to linux, but not even that experienced
[14:53] <Jeremy31> anonymous_: Might be an easier way
[14:53] <oerheks> and different 2 mac adresses on 2 latops, i don' t get this..
[14:54] <Sven_vB> anonymous_, another method would be to use a pluggable wifi antenna, i.e. via USB, to carry the network hardware ID together with the USB memory stick.
[14:54] <oerheks> anonymous_, why would a different mac adress not work? is your internet limited to 1 device?
[14:55] <Jeremy31> Network Manager doesn't really care about the MAC address just the interface name
[14:55] <Sven_vB> well, you can make NM care. but by default it doesn't.
[14:55] <oerheks> again, sounds like a router issue to me
[14:56] <Sven_vB> yeah might be a MAC spoofing protection or sth.
[14:56] <anonymous_> Sven_vB, could be an option, but I just bought a small USB device to use as personal OS on my company laptop. I would prefer not to use more devices when I travel, but thanks for the idea
[14:56] <Sven_vB> companies live to have woird network device policies
[14:56] <Sven_vB> *love to
[14:56] <anonymous_> oerheks, I cant really play with the router since it is the provider one. I was thinking that could be the issue, but I cant play with anything there
[14:57] <Sven_vB> sorry for my bad typing
[14:59] <Sven_vB> anonymous_, I like to always have my own router between my devices and the provider's upling device. In my case for trust reasons, but I guess if your router acts up, that's one more reason to have your own.
[15:00] <Sven_vB> would be good to know what exactly the "Wifi issure related to MAC address" though, to determine which device is the problem.
[15:00] <anonymous_> I tried a good VPN router lately, but there will be a newer version soon, but im with you in having something in the middle
[15:01] <jokerface> Please join to my new channel #stockmarkets
[15:01] <Jeremy31> anonymous_: If you look at the files in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections you will have to use sudo to look/edit them but if they have the line interface-name= it will lock it to one wifi device name
[15:03] <oerheks> so, you want to use a VPN, that might be bound to 1 mac adrsss?
[15:03] <oerheks> Any more information we might not have yet?
[15:03] <slimjimflim> hi, when i run `sudo apt-get upgrade` i get ...'E: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/.
[15:03] <slimjimflim> '
[15:03] <slimjimflim> can anyone help?
[15:04] <Jeremy31> slimjimflim: sudo apt autoclean
[15:04] <oerheks> sudo apt autoremove / sudo apt autoclean
[15:04] <anonymous_> no oerheks, no VPN at the moment. I am just trying to connect to the same wifi router from a USB stick, but from a different laptop
[15:04] <slimjimflim> Jeremy31: fail
[15:05] <slimjimflim> autoremove...340 mb will be freed....
[15:05] <anonymous_> Jeremy31, I have opened the file, there is interface-name=wlp2s0
[15:05] <slimjimflim> more fail tho
[15:07] <slimjimflim> from `df -h` ... user0@user0-computer:~$ /dev/mapper/vgubuntu-root  115G  111G     0 100% /
[15:07] <slimjimflim> cant `apt-upgrade`
[15:08] <slimjimflim> should i `rm` some big video files from elsewhere on the disk perhaps?
[15:08] <oerheks> slimjimflim, looks like your filesystem is read -only
[15:08] <slimjimflim> no
[15:08] <slimjimflim> also, only 26gb in my main dir where i keep vids
[15:09] <slimjimflim> that can't be the issue
[15:09] <oerheks> 4G should be enough, but that 100%...
[15:09] <Jeremy31> anonymous_: delete that line, then save
[15:09] <slimjimflim> yea, this looks like the issue:
[15:09] <slimjimflim> /dev/mapper/vgubuntu-root  115G  111G     0 100% /
[15:09] <slimjimflim> 100% used
[15:09] <blami> oerheks: probably 4G root reserve
[15:10] <genii> slimjimflim: You might want to run autoremove/autoclean if there's a crapton of old kernels in /boot
[15:11] <slimjimflim> genii: yea i agree. i just did that tho
[15:12] <slimjimflim> 0 upgraded 0 newly installed
[15:12] <slimjimflim> nothing happening with autoclean either
[15:12] <slimjimflim> this is weird
[15:13] <blami> is there anything in /var/cache/apt/archives?
[15:14] <slimjimflim> https://pastebin.com/NqwC7ZsH
[15:14] <slimjimflim> yes
[15:14] <blami> apt is usually pretty much defunct if you hit 100% on rootfs as it cannot write to its own files
[15:14] <leftyfb> slimjimflim: you're not going to accumulate gb worth of apt packages that need to be removed or cached. You need to find out where all your space is being taken up and delete some stuff
[15:14] <slimjimflim> blami:
[15:14] <slimjimflim> $ df -h /var/cache/apt/archives/
[15:14] <slimjimflim> Filesystem                 Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[15:14] <slimjimflim> /dev/mapper/vgubuntu-root  115G  111G     0 100% /
[15:14] <leftyfb> slimjimflim: if you already have it installed, ncdu will tell you where the space is being taken up
[15:14] <genii> du
[15:15] <anonymous_> Jeremy31, it didn't work. I have also deleted the file from /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections with my wifi name, but still it doesnt work. If I open the list of available wifi, I can interact with all, but I cant interact with my home wifi. I cant change password, forget the network, nothing. But if I plug the usb and i boot from the first laptop where i first connected to the wifi, it works flawlesssly
[15:15] <blami> du -h /var/cache/apt/archives
[15:15] <slimjimflim> $ du -sh /var/cache/apt/archives
[15:15] <slimjimflim> du: cannot read directory '/var/cache/apt/archives/partial': Permission denied
[15:15] <slimjimflim> 52K	/var/cache/apt/archives
[15:15] <Jeremy31> anonymous_: you just needed to delete that one line not the entire file
[15:15] <leftyfb> blami: I can guarantee you there aren't 10+gb of cached packages
[15:15] <leftyfb> slimjimflim: sudo ncdu /
[15:15] <slimjimflim> $ sudo du -sh /var/cache/apt/archives
[15:15] <slimjimflim> 52K	/var/cache/apt/archives
[15:15] <anonymous_> Jeremy31, I have tried both, deleting the line didnt work
[15:15] <blami> yeah probably not but autoclean probably does not work because it is empty already
[15:16] <Jeremy31> anonymous_: Ubuntu 22.04
[15:16] <leftyfb> slimjimflim: we can stop troubleshooting apt caches or anything wrong wiht apt. You are out of disk space. Find out where it's being used up
[15:16] <slimjimflim> i don't have ncdu and i don't have enough free space to install a new package
[15:16] <slimjimflim> leftyfb: ur probly right. ok
[15:16] <leftyfb> slimjimflim: sudo du -sh /var/log ~/|grep G
[15:16] <anonymous_> Jeremy31, yep 22.04
[15:17] <slimjimflim> $ sudo du -sh /var/log ~|grep G
[15:17] <slimjimflim> 16G	/var/log
[15:17] <slimjimflim> ho83G	/home/<my username goes here>
[15:18] <leftyfb> slimjimflim: please use pastebin for multiple lines
[15:18] <slimjimflim> k
[15:18] <leftyfb> slimjimflim: ok, home is a great place to look, but also, look at the size of /var/log/kern.log and /var/log/syslog
[15:18] <blami> du -hs /var/log/journal/
[15:18] <leftyfb> journal will self-regulate
[15:18] <blami> systemd journal can grow a lot too
[15:19] <slimjimflim> kern.log is 43k
[15:19] <blami> aah right, there's vacuum time
[15:19] <slimjimflim> syslog is 11g
[15:19] <leftyfb> that's a good place to start
[15:19] <blami> wow
[15:19] <slimjimflim> yea 11g is insane. what's the best way to purge syslog?
[15:20] <leftyfb> slimjimflim: echo "" | sudo tee /var/log/syslog    # mind you, there's no recovering this syslog after doing this
[15:20] <slimjimflim> leftyfb: that's kinda scary
[15:20] <slimjimflim> idk
[15:20] <leftyfb> not really
[15:20] <slimjimflim> i want at least a few weeks of syslogs tho
[15:20] <leftyfb> if there's active problems showing up in syslog, they will still get logged there going forward
[15:21] <leftyfb> slimjimflim: you can also start looking in your home directory and start deleting things
[15:21] <slimjimflim> no i wanna kill syslog mostly. home dir stuff matters more
[15:21] <leftyfb> regardless, you should come back to the syslog at some point and get it to a manageable size
[15:21] <leftyfb> slimjimflim: once you clean up space, you should reboot
[15:22] <slimjimflim> like 1G max
[15:22] <slimjimflim> yes
[15:22] <slimjimflim> ok i'll search engine cleaning syslog. i think i can take it from here thanks guys. i'll bbl if this doesn't work :D
[15:22] <leftyfb> also, you work on keeping your drive under 90% usage, especially with SSD
[15:22] <slimjimflim> yea
[15:22] <leftyfb> slimjimflim: I already showed you how to purge your syslog
[15:23] <slimjimflim> oh, yea but like i said i only wanny purge like 90% of it
[15:23] <Jeremy31> anonymous_: I just tried 3 different wifi adapters on 22.04 after removing the interface line from the file in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections
[15:23] <leftyfb> slimjimflim: doing that is non-trivial and unlikely to buy you much
[15:23] <ogra> well, you should prehaps take a look at it first ... syslog does notmally not grow into the gigabyte sizes ... logrotate should compressit away regulary
[15:24] <slimjimflim> stackoverflow says the answer is logrotate
[15:24] <ogra> if it grows that much before being log-rotated, there is likely something spamming it
[15:24] <slimjimflim> logotate is the shit
[15:24] <ogra> just removing it wont protect you from it growing again
[15:24] <slimjimflim> right
[15:25]  * slimjimflim reads stackoverflow
[15:25] <ogra> so take a look at the ... say last 1000 lines ... to see if there is some repeated message that is written in a loop or so
[15:25] <ogra> tail -1000 /var/log/syslog | less
[15:26] <slimjimflim> ftr: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/35638219/ubuntu-large-syslog-and-kern-log-files
[15:26] <slimjimflim> i'm gonna try this i think
[15:26] <ogra> you should not need to do anything to the logging setup ... it is usually coming with sane defaults for everything
[15:27] <ogra> rather find what spams your log too much
[15:27] <slimjimflim> perhaps
[15:31] <anonymous__> Jeremy31, dont know what to say, it doesn't work in my case. If I click on the home wifi i want to connect, nothing happens, no password request, no attempting to connecting. But if i click on other networks it asks for passwords
[15:31] <slimjimflim> ok so i just did `sudo su` and then `> /var/log/syslog`
[15:31] <slimjimflim> now syslog is 96M. perfect. lets see if i can update/upgrade now
[15:32] <ogra> it is already 93M again ?
[15:32] <slimjimflim> success
[15:32] <slimjimflim> yea
[15:32] <leftyfb> slimjimflim: reboot first
[15:32] <ogra> you should *definitely* research what is causing that
[15:32] <slimjimflim> meh
[15:32] <ogra> having more than a few MB per day points to asme very serious issues
[15:32] <ogra> *some
[15:32] <slimjimflim> true but i don't care enough rn
[15:33] <slimjimflim> this box has been fine for over a year. maybe i'll have to deal with this issue again in another year
[15:33] <ogra> well, if it is 96M withn a few minutes, the disk wont survive the weekend
[15:33] <leftyfb> slimjimflim: you cared enough to ask for help after it caused you to run out of space
[15:33] <slimjimflim> ogra: well it's working for now. if that happens that soon i'll care more
[15:34] <leftyfb> hopefully you don't run any critical infrastructure of any kind
[15:34] <slimjimflim> lol no
[15:34] <ogra> yeah, i too hope this isnt some production system
[15:34] <slimjimflim> no just a workstation
[15:35] <Jeremy31> anonymous__: the predictable interface naming can be disabled in terminal with>  sudo touch /etc/systemd/network/99-default.link
[15:35] <slimjimflim> definitely taking longer than normal to `apt upgrade`
[15:36] <leftyfb> slimjimflim: did you reboot?
[15:36] <ogra> well, your syslog seems to be busy being hammered with messages
[15:36] <slimjimflim> not yet
[15:36] <slimjimflim> i will when the upgrade's done
[15:36] <leftyfb> no, reboot now
[15:36] <slimjimflim> no
[15:36] <ogra> well ... was there a reason you asked for help ?
[15:36] <ogra> (given you refuse all helpful solutions offered)
[15:37] <leftyfb> slimjimflim: please don't ask for help if you aren't going to listen
[15:37] <slimjimflim> you guys did help. i just want to let the upgrade finish before i reboot
[15:37] <leftyfb> slimjimflim: there are potentially systems that were trying to write to disk that couldn't and are locked up or worse, spamming your logs still because they got into a broken state
[15:37] <ogra> though i suspect the upgrade will fail and leave you with a messed up package system anyway ... if the 96MB rate above was true
[15:37] <leftyfb> slimjimflim: your system is currently in a broken state
[15:37] <slimjimflim> i'm not a n00b. i'm not gonna hard reboot in the middle of an upgrade
[15:38] <slimjimflim> not getting any errors from the upgrade
[15:38] <ogra> nobody said you should hard reboot
[15:38] <slimjimflim> ok
[15:38] <ogra> ctrl-c works fine with apt
[15:38] <slimjimflim> i'm not ctrl-cing either
[15:38] <slimjimflim> i'm not doing anything until the upgrade is done or i get an error
[15:39] <anonymous_> Jeremy31, thanks a lot, the last command worked. I will try now to boot from Laptop 1 and see if it works. Thanks again
[15:41] <slimjimflim> so yea `sudo apt-get upgrade` worked
[15:41] <slimjimflim> rebooting or ctrl-c in the middle of an upgrade would have been DUMB
[15:42] <leftyfb> false
[15:43] <slimjimflim> NOW i'm gonna rerun update and upgrade again and make sure ther's no errors and then reboot and rerun em again probly to be double sure. diskspace looks decent. 2.8G left but that's just bc too many videos. i think we're done here. thanks.
[15:43] <leftyfb> also, I told you to reboot before running anything else
[15:44] <leftyfb> your syslog was 11G, you purged it and now you have 2.8G left? Math doesn't check out
[15:44] <slimjimflim> yea idk
[15:44] <slimjimflim> it did just install more stuff...
[15:44] <leftyfb> sounds like you don't care to actually fix anything properly or understand what's actually wrong
[15:44] <slimjimflim> 'all packages are up to date'
[15:45] <slimjimflim> '0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[15:45] <slimjimflim> '
[15:45] <slimjimflim> that's what i wanted. NOW i'm gonna reboot. all should be well. thanks again
[15:45] <leftyfb> all is not well
[15:45] <slimjimflim> good enough
[15:45] <leftyfb> false
[15:46] <anonymous_> Jeremy31, it worked. is it fixed for good or shall I do the same procedure everytime I connect to a new wifi network?
[15:46]  * ogra shrugs in face of the ignorance ...
[15:47] <Jeremy31> anonymous_: It should work unless you want to use a USB wifi on something with an internal card as the second device will get named wlan1
[15:56] <EriC^> .0.
[15:56] <EriC^> 3.
[15:56] <EriC^> 3..0..0.3
[15:56] <EriC^> ..
[15:56] <EriC^> +
[15:56] <EriC^> sorry
[16:17] <jelly> hi!  My laptop with Ubuntu 18.04 LTS shuts down when the battery reaches critical level.  How do I make it hibernate instead?
[16:19] <jelly> initiating hibernation manually with eg. "systemctl hibernate" works.  I've added and configured a LVM LV swap with enough space.
[16:19] <anonymous_> Jeremy31, ok I tried multiple wifi and it worked flawlessly. Thank you very much
[16:19] <oerheks> jelly disable suspend and sleep, hints; https://www.tecmint.com/disable-suspend-and-hibernation-in-linux/
[16:20] <oerheks> $ sudo systemctl mask sleep.target suspend.target h̶i̶b̶e̶r̶n̶a̶t̶e̶.̶t̶a̶r̶g̶e̶t̶ hybrid-sleep.target
[16:21] <anonymous_> I might have another question before I deep dive in google. I have this USB stick with Ubuntu, and I boot it every time from bios by pressing the relevant key. The USB will always run on machines with Windows installed, so I was wondering if there was a way to install/configure GRUB so that I can set the laptop to boot from usb, and the GRUB will let me choose between Ubuntu or Windows no matter the machine I am
[16:21] <anonymous_> booting from
[16:22] <jelly> oerheks, and that is going to help making hibernation the defualt action instead of shutdown on battery critically low?  The machine does not do either sleep or suspend in this sitaution.
[16:23] <jelly> seems unintuitive but I'll try that.
[16:23] <oerheks> yes, masking suspend and sleep made it work, write to disk and shutdown
[16:24] <jelly> that will probably also break suspend on close lid?
[16:25] <oerheks> maybe, at the end of the article;  sudo vim /etc/systemd/logind.conf ::: HandleLidSwitch=ignore HandleLidSwitchDocked=ignore
[16:25] <oerheks> but id do not use that
[16:58] <nbusrone> leftyfb : thanks , NT LM 0.12 (SMBv1) [dangerous, but default] . How dangerous will it be plugin usb pendrive into the router ? just for home usage for video sharing ?
[16:59] <enigma9o7[m]> I fear it could kill you.
[16:59] <leftyfb> nbusrone: that might be a better question for #security
[17:00] <nbusrone> leftyfb : ok , thanks again
[17:11] <oerheks> I found a bug in AisleRiot Solitair; under wayland, i have to click twice to close the ended game.
[18:36] <admin8086> hi
[20:21] <scortal> scortal here
[20:49] <lmat> scortal: Duly acknowledged.
[20:51] <scortal> about ?
[20:51] <scortal> simple stating factks
[20:59] <Maik> scortal: do you have any ubuntu related support questions that we might help you with?
[21:21] <lsd|2> https://termbin.com/xe65
[21:27] <webchat45> Hello
[21:28] <tomreyn> lsd|2: if you have an ubuntu support question, feel free to bring it up.
[21:29] <webchat45> I am running Ubuntu 20.04.4 LTS. If I create a flash drive with 22.04 LTS
[21:29] <webchat45> and boot from it
[21:29] <webchat45> Will I be able to upgrade this way ?
[21:30] <lsd|2> webchat45: if you can preserve /home somehow as different partition yes
[21:30] <lsd|2> but propably you wont since that tool is retarded
[21:30] <genii> webchat45: The usual way is instead to use do-release-upgrade
[21:31] <webchat45> In ubuntu when I go to software and updates and select notify me only for long term support versions and click check for updates it doesnt find the latest 22.04 LTS version and ask me to upgrade
[21:32] <webchat45> but when i select notify me for any version, then it lets me upgrade to 21.something
[21:32] <webchat45> but not 22.04 LTS
[21:32] <tomreyn> !ltsupgrade | webchat45
[21:32] <genii> webchat45: LTS->LTS update is not offered until the newest LTS reaches first point release ( like in this case 22.04.1 )
[21:33] <webchat45> another thing
[21:33] <webchat45> when I try to upgrade to 21.something it tells me EFI partition not mounter. when I go to disks and just click mount on it it tells me it is not mounted in the correct mount point
[21:34] <webchat45> i am scared to change it because if my machine fails to boot ubunti after that I am screwed
[21:35] <jhutchins> webchat45: Sounds like now would be a good time to make a boot image/disc/usb.
[21:35] <tomreyn> the EFI file system is usually mounted automatically, it's unclear why this would not be the case on yours. how did you install this system?
[21:35] <webchat45> Is this a backup of my boot partition ?
[21:36] <webchat45> tomreyn: I installed if from a USB flash drive
[21:36] <webchat45> GUI loaded and clicked install
[21:38] <tomreyn> i assume the line describing your /boot/efi file system mount in /etc/fstab must be incorrect then.
[21:38] <EriC^> webchat45: type '(lsblk -f; cat /etc/fstab) | nc termbin.com 9999'
[21:40] <webchat45> EriC^^ https://termbin.com/2e0v
[21:41] <tomreyn> a file system with UUID 1475-E1E0 does not seem to exist
[21:42] <webchat45> ok so what do we do ?
[21:42] <tomreyn> sdb1 or nvme1n1p2 or nvme1n1p4 are possible candidates for your ESP
[21:42] <EriC^^> webchat45: are you dual booting?
[21:42] <webchat45> yup
[21:42] <tomreyn> nvme1n1p1 also exists, but no file system was detected
[21:43] <tomreyn> "# /boot/efi was on /dev/nvme0n1p1 during installation"
[21:43] <EriC^^> ah good catch tomreyn
[21:43] <tomreyn> someone changed something about the file system on nvme0n1p1 since
[21:44] <tomreyn> webchat45: do you happen to know anything about this?
[21:44] <webchat45> '/dev/nvme1n1p6 has a star on it in Disks
[21:44] <webchat45> I have like 4 disks connected to my mainboard
[21:44] <tomreyn> i have two stars, eric has two ^, and still we aren't special :(
[21:45] <EriC^^> xD
[21:45] <webchat45> and the ubuntu was installed on a 265gb nVME, I cloned the contents of it to a 1tb nVME so I dont have to reinstall ubuntu windows and all my vms
[21:45] <EriC^^> webchat45: can you type 'sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999' to confirm p1 size and stuff
[21:46] <webchat45> you are good ppl
[21:46] <webchat45> sudo parted or gparted
[21:46] <webchat45> ?
[21:46] <EriC^^> parted
[21:46] <webchat45> ok
[21:47] <EriC^^> webchat45: also if you dont mind, type 'ls /sys/firmware/efi'and confirm if it shows dir or says it doesnt exist,  to understand the situation better
[21:47] <webchat45> nothing hapens
[21:48] <EriC^^> hmm it should give a link, try again maybe using 'sudo parted -ls' instead
[21:48] <webchat45> https://termbin.com/t7ks
[21:48] <webchat45> worked
[21:49] <webchat45> user@Server:~$ ls /sys/firmware/efi
[21:49] <webchat45> config_table  esrt              fw_vendor  runtime-map  vars
[21:49] <webchat45> efivars       fw_platform_size  runtime    systab
[21:51] <EriC^^> webchat45: ok, type 'sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999'
[21:51] <tomreyn> 3 ESPs? that's more than the average user.
[21:52] <webchat45> what is an ESP ?
[21:52] <webchat45> https://termbin.com/fvwg
[21:52] <tomreyn> efi system partition
[21:52] <webchat45> oh ok
[21:53] <EriC^^> webchat45: and finally, 'sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999'
[21:54] <webchat45> https://termbin.com/zagr
[21:54] <tomreyn> so /dev/nvme1n1p2 apparently
[21:55] <tomreyn> UUID=6F8C-6F2D
[21:56] <webchat45> the top one is my root partition(I think)
[21:56] <webchat45> and the bottom one is the EFI
[21:56] <tomreyn> so edit /etc/fstab with sudo, and replace UUID=1475-E1E0 by UUID=6F8C-6F2D
[21:56] <tomreyn> unless EriC^^ disagrees?
[21:56] <webchat45> so replace UUID=1475-E1E0 WITH UUID=6F8C-6F2D ?
[21:56] <EriC^^> yes
[21:58] <webchat45> shall I give it a go, EriC^^ ?
[21:58] <EriC^^> webchat45: did you edit and save?
[21:58] <webchat45> i am about to
[21:58] <EriC^^> oh ok, yes by all means
[21:58] <webchat45> altight
[21:58] <webchat45> alright
[22:02] <webchat45> ok
[22:02] <webchat45> done
[22:03] <webchat45> i edited and saved it with gedit
[22:03] <EriC^^> ok, try 'sudo mount /boot/efi'
[22:03] <webchat45> (gedit:20260): Tepl-WARNING **: 01:02:06.978: GVfs metadata is not supported. Fallback to TeplMetadataManager. Either GVfs is not correctly installed or GVfs metadata are not supported on this platform. In the latter case, you should configure Tepl with --disable-gvfs-metadata.
[22:03] <webchat45> got this message
[22:03] <webchat45> did I mess up ?
[22:03] <tomreyn> now you did
[22:04]  * EriC^^ clueless what just happened
[22:04] <webchat45> (gedit:20260): Tepl-WARNING **: 01:02:06.978: GVfs metadata is not supported. Fallback to TeplMetadataManager. Either GVfs is not correctly installed or GVfs metadata are not supported on this platform. In the latter case, you should configure Tepl with --disable-gvfs-metadata.
[22:04] <webchat45> got this message
[22:04] <webchat45> did I mess something up ?
[22:04] <EriC^^> should be good, did you use 'sudo gedit' ?
[22:04] <tomreyn> webchat45: don't run "sudo gedit ...", run "gedit admin://..."
[22:04] <EriC^^> ^
[22:05] <webchat45> ok I will use nano from now on
[22:05] <webchat45> gedit was easyer
[22:05] <tomreyn> no one said you should not use gedit
[22:05] <EriC^^> for gui programs i usually do 'sudo -H gedit etc'
[22:06] <webchat45> I kept pasting in the wrong place then erased some stuff and in the end couldnt remember if there were 2 spaaces after what I pasted or one
[22:06] <AGoonyGooGoo> Hey all, as someone whos only used windows their entire life, and has done some little admin in windows i'm trying to switch to ubuntu for learning and fun.  Is the difference between Ubuntu and Ubuntu server just that server is pure CLI?
[22:06] <webchat45> ok so If i am safe we can continue
[22:06] <EriC^^> webchat45: try 'sudo mount /boot/efi'
[22:07] <webchat45> done
[22:07] <EriC^^> also type 'cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999' just to be sure
[22:07] <EriC^^> of the other entries
[22:07] <tomreyn> AGoonyGooGoo: not only that, there are some different packages installed by default, too, and thus networking is managed differently. but that's mostly it.
[22:07] <webchat45> https://termbin.com/p644y
[22:08] <webchat45> allgood ?
[22:09] <webchat45> in disks now the efi partition has a star but it shows that it is not mounted
[22:09] <webchat45> in disks now the efi partition now has a star but it shows that it is not mounted
[22:10] <EriC^^> webchat45: it should be if sudo mount /boot/efi returned no error
[22:10] <EriC^^> webchat45: try 'df -h /boot/efi'
[22:10] <EriC^^> does it say mountpoint /boot/efi or / ?
[22:11] <webchat45> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[22:11] <tomreyn> file editing seems to have succeeded according to    cd /tmp; curl -s https://termbin.com/2e0v | tail -n16 > 1; curl -s https://termbin.com/p644y > 2; diff 1 2
[22:11] <webchat45> "Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[22:11] <webchat45> "/dev/nvme1n1p6  652G  409G  211G  67% /
[22:11] <AGoonyGooGoo> tomreyn as someone who barely uses linux, do you think its ok to just start off with server to learn in my homelab?
[22:12] <EriC^^> webchat45: odd, try 'sudo mount /boot/efi' again
[22:12] <webchat45> user@Server:/etc$ sudo mount /boot/efi
[22:12] <webchat45> user@Server:/etc$
[22:12] <webchat45> this is what hapens when I type it
[22:12] <EriC^^> then 'df -h /boot/efi'
[22:13] <webchat45> its still not mounted
[22:13] <EriC^^> very odd
[22:13] <tomreyn> AGoonyGooGoo: the best approach is always to backup and whole-heartedly switch to a new OS as your main driver, and see if you can handle it.
[22:13] <webchat45> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[22:13] <webchat45> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[22:13] <webchat45> "/dev/nvme1n1p6  652G  409G  211G  67% /
[22:13] <tomreyn> AGoonyGooGoo: and whether it can handle you ;)
[22:14] <EriC^^> webchat45: try for a sec, sudo mount /dev/nvme1n1p1 /boot/efi
[22:14] <EriC^^> err
[22:14] <EriC^^> webchat45: try for a sec, sudo mount /dev/nvme1n1p2 /boot/efi
[22:15] <webchat45> user@Server:/etc$ sudo mount /dev/nvme1n1p2 /boot/efi
[22:15] <webchat45> user@Server:/etc$
[22:15] <EriC^^> what's the output on df -h /boot/efi now?
[22:15] <webchat45> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[22:15] <webchat45> '/dev/nvme1n1p6  652G  409G  211G  67% /
[22:15] <webchat45> same
[22:17] <tomreyn> webchat45: are you running ubuntu only, or is another operating system running on this computer at the same time, such as in a VM or 'subsystem' or 'container'?
[22:17] <webchat45> not at the moment
[22:17] <webchat45> but usually yes
[22:17] <webchat45> all the time
[22:17] <webchat45> either virtualbox or kvm
[22:17] <tomreyn> what does this output?   sudo file -s /dev/nvme1n1p2
[22:18] <webchat45> '/dev/nvme1n1p2: DOS/MBR boot sector, code offset 0x58+2, OEM-ID "MSDOS5.0", sectors/cluster 2, Media descriptor 0xf8, sectors/track 63, heads 255, hidden sectors 264192, sectors 204800 (volumes > 32 MB), FAT (32 bit), sectors/FAT 794, serial number 0x6f8c6f2d, unlabeled
[22:19] <tomreyn> hmm well i guess this can be an ESP
[22:20] <EriC^^> webchat45: try 'mount | nc termbin.com 9999' maybe any clues
[22:21] <webchat45> https://termbin.com/gloa
[22:23] <tomreyn> the last two should probably be unmounted and the cache removed
[22:24] <tomreyn> but i don't see why this would happen still
[22:24] <EriC^^> webchat45: also it might help to try 'sudo strace -o /tmp/bla mount /boot/efi; cat /tmp/bla | nc termbin.com 9999'
[22:24] <tomreyn> maybe run a file system check:  sudo fsck.vfat -vn /dev/nvme1n1p2
[22:24] <webchat45> '/dev/sdd1 on /media/user/Elements type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096,uhelper=udisks2)
[22:24] <webchat45> this is a drive plugged in the usb
[22:24] <webchat45> I can just unplug it
[22:24] <webchat45> :D
[22:25] <webchat45> I am dont with it anyway
[22:25] <webchat45> done*
[22:25] <tomreyn> oh thats where the root owned stuff comes from, i see
[22:25] <webchat45> '/dev/fuse on /root/.cache/doc type fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0)
[22:25] <webchat45> gvfsd-fuse on /root/.cache/gvfs type fuse.gvfsd-fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0)
[22:26] <webchat45> what is this though?
[22:26] <tomreyn> unrelated to the ESP issues
[22:26] <webchat45> ok
[22:26] <webchat45> So what do we do now ?
[22:26] <tomreyn> (but you should not mount file systems as the root user when you don't need to)
[22:27] <tomreyn> you could try the command EriC^^ provided and/ or the one I provided
[22:28] <webchat45> which one ?
 webchat45: also it might help to try 'sudo strace -o /tmp/bla mount /boot/efi; cat /tmp/bla | nc termbin.com 9999'
 maybe run a file system check:  sudo fsck.vfat -vn /dev/nvme1n1p2
[22:29] <webchat45> https://termbin.com/8hsm
[22:30] <webchat45> user@Server:/etc$ sudo fsck.vfat -vn /dev/nvme1n1p2
[22:30] <webchat45> fsck.fat 4.1 (2017-01-24)
[22:30] <webchat45> Checking we can access the last sector of the filesystem
[22:30] <webchat45> Boot sector contents:
[22:30] <webchat45> System ID "MSDOS5.0"
[22:30] <webchat45> Media byte 0xf8 (hard disk)
[22:30] <tomreyn> !paste | webchat45
[22:30] <EriC^^> hmm mount's returning 0 as if it went ok
[22:31] <tomreyn> maybe /proc/mounts differs from /etc/mtab for some reason?
[22:31] <webchat45> '/dev/nvme1n1p2: 217 files, 52737/101590 clusters
[22:31] <webchat45> this was the last line
[22:31] <tomreyn> webchat45: termbin please
[22:32] <EriC^^> if fsck ran i guess it's indeed not mounted :|
[22:33] <webchat45> dont know how to paste to termbin
[22:37] <tomreyn> maybe it's about time to inspect /proc/version*
[22:37] <tomreyn> and dpkg -S $(which mount)
[22:38] <webchat45> ok so do you have any more ideas about my situation ?
[22:38] <Jeremy31> webchat45: to paste to termbin, after the command use | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:39] <webchat45> got it
[22:39] <EriC^^> webchat45: type 'sudo systemctl daemon-reload && sudo mount /boot/efi && df -h /boot/efi'
[22:39] <tomreyn> actually use    &| nc termbin.com 9999
[22:39] <tomreyn> actually use    |& nc termbin.com 9999
[22:40] <tomreyn> (and only if your shell is bash)
[22:41] <webchat45> doesnt work with the &
[22:41] <webchat45> works witout it
[22:41] <webchat45> https://termbin.com/xrur
[22:41] <webchat45> oh
[22:42] <EriC^^> any luck webchat45 ?
[22:42] <webchat45> https://termbin.com/zknt
[22:43] <EriC^^> webchat45: give this a shot 'sudo systemctl daemon-reload && sudo mount /boot/efi && df -h /boot/efi'
[22:44] <EriC^^> seems it could have something to do with systemd unmounting straight away or such
[22:44] <tomreyn> or maybe /boot/efi is not a directory?
[22:44] <webchat45> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[22:44] <webchat45> '/dev/nvme1n1p2  100M   52M   48M  52% /boot/efi
[22:44] <EriC^^> great
[22:44] <tomreyn> good job, EriC^^!
[22:44] <EriC^^> webchat45: type 'sudo grub-install && sudo update-grub'
[22:44] <webchat45> nice
[22:44] <webchat45> its mounterd
[22:45] <webchat45> its mounted
[22:45] <tomreyn> maybe ls first?
[22:46] <tomreyn> sudo ls -lR /boot/efi |& nc termbin.com 9999
[22:46] <webchat45> ok done
[22:46] <blahdeblah> Repeat of earlier question: What is the correct URL to initiate an HTTP(S) install under 22.04?  I previously used <MIRROR>/ubuntu/dists/<DIST>/main/installer-amd64/ as a source for libvirt installs, but that tree is empty now - is there a replacement?
[22:46] <webchat45> https://termbin.com/4ayg
[22:47] <sarnold> blahdeblah: heya :) iirc that directory was a byproduct of the debian installer, which isn't built any more
[22:47] <sarnold> blahdeblah: this is the intended replacement https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/install/autoinstall
[22:48] <EriC^^> webchat45: seems all good, did you run the grub-install command?
[22:49] <webchat45> yes
[22:50] <EriC^^> cool, you should be good to go
[22:50] <webchat45> I cant paste the output
[22:50] <EriC^^> no worries if no errors etc
[22:50] <webchat45> I will probably get disconnected
[22:50] <EriC^^> webchat45: you should be able to update now, obviously backup your system before if you havent already
[22:51] <tomreyn> blahdeblah: cloud-images could be another option
[22:51] <tomreyn> https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/
[22:52] <webchat45> how sould I backup ?
[22:52] <tomreyn> !backup | webchat45
[22:56] <EriC^^> webchat45: it's up to you if the system isnt that critical to stay up, you could just backup your files/home stuff and maybe list of installed programs and update, worst case scenario you copy them back and install the programs if stuff goes wrong
[22:58] <webchat45> I dont have room to back up my user's files
[22:58] <webchat45> can I just backup root
[22:59] <EriC^^> really you should backup your user files anyways
[22:59] <webchat45> and then if things brake somehow restore just the root files
[22:59] <EriC^^> you're living on the edge like this, time bomb
[22:59] <webchat45> we are talking about 500GB
[23:00] <webchat45> I guess I can find room for that somewhere
[23:01] <EriC^^> trust me the day the hdd suddenly starts spitting input/output errors or some fs corruption happens if you need the files you'll never not have a backup again
[23:02] <webchat45> I guess I can find room somewhere
[23:02] <EriC^^> sounds good
[23:04] <webchat45> ok guys
[23:04] <webchat45> Thanks for your help
[23:04] <webchat45> I really appreciate it
[23:04] <EriC^^> no problem
[23:04] <webchat45> You are good ppl
[23:05] <webchat45> good luck and good health to you!
[23:05] <webchat45> :)
[23:19] <morganu> how do I have transmission or hexchat startup automatically?
[23:19] <EriC^^> morganu: add it to 'startup apps'
[23:20] <tomreyn> (gnome) tweaks -> startup applications
[23:20] <morganu> is that a file of app names?  ie a bat file?
[23:20] <morganu> EriC^^,
[23:20] <morganu> tomreyn, tweaks TC
[23:20] <morganu> tc EriC^^ too
[23:20] <morganu> ty
[23:22] <EriC^^> np