[03:05] <ball> Why is lubuntu.org ?
[03:05] <guiverc> ball, it's not a Ubuntu or Lubuntu web site.  It's not under Ubuntu/Lubuntu control; so I'd suggest not using it
[03:06] <guiverc> ball, if you want to use only official Ubuntu flavor sites; don't ask google/search engines, but go to ubuntu.com (ie. https://ubuntu.com/download/flavours) which will take you to official Ubuntu flavor sites
[03:07] <guiverc> you'll not all Ubuntu flavor sites are under Ubuntu ownership/control; we cannot control web sites that aren't ours
[03:08] <guiverc> FYI:  opening that site on my browser gets a "badware risk warning"; and asks me if I want to continue or not (warning from ublock origin)
[03:10] <guiverc> s/you'll not/you'll note/ ^
[03:10] <ball> It's a pity they're able to squat there. :-(
[03:11] <guiverc> ball they (original owner of lubuntu.org) were the original owner before Lubuntu owned a web site
[03:11] <ball> Is Lubuntu not a trademark?
[03:12] <guiverc> trademarks cost $s to legally pursue & if you win, they are told to remove/pull down the site, but costs are cannot be claimed... ie. trademark protection costs $s...
[03:12] <guiverc> Lubuntu is a non-profit that doesn't have $s to spend on legal...
[03:13] <ball> That's unfortunate.
[03:13] <guiverc> recal the groupon (I think) trying to steal GNOME trademark .... it required loads of donations in order to start that legal battle...  (a few years back)
[03:13] <guiverc> s/recal/recall ^
[03:14]  * ball waits patiently for the downloads
[03:14] <ball> download*
[03:14] <guiverc> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/11/gnome-open-source-project-fights-groupon-over-gnome-trademark/ etc... 
[03:19] <ball> Is there a way to ask the installer not to create a swap partition?
[03:19] <guiverc> you've not said what release; but there is a drop down (swap/no-swap) for many install options
[03:20] <guiverc> other install options do not offer that drop down though
[03:20] <guiverc> the default varies on release (version of calamares somewhat), but if you already have swap that will generally be used
[03:21] <guiverc> you can see the 'drop down' for swap here - https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/_images/partitioning.png
[03:25] <ball> Thanks
[04:56] <ball> Booting from it now.
[05:02] <ball> I like the installer!
[20:35] <darkblueb> hi all - installing jammy here on a "big" server box.. 
[20:35] <darkblueb> physical media
[21:42] <darkblueb> .. and it completes.. using the GUI installer..  wondering about  update-grub2
[21:42] <darkblueb> I rebooted once so far, and the GRUB screen definitely does not know about the new OS yet
[21:44] <darkblueb> $update-grub2  run from the previous ubuntu OS now, sees the new system.. writes a dot-cfg to /boot/grub/ .. 
[21:45] <darkblueb> since I booted once, some kind of master boot record must be found in the old way
[21:45] <darkblueb> let's try
[21:50] <darkblueb> .. and that works fine.. I suspect that if I unplugged every disk except the new one, it would be different.. but .. one challenge at a time
[21:51] <darkblueb> what is the stock GUI disk utility called ?   the "gnome-disks" basically.. 
[22:08] <darkblueb> ok - KDE Partition Manager it seems .. not very chatty here it seems
[22:16] <darkblueb> unsure if symlinking /home  to another disk works OK, or if you have to choose that in the initialization steps 
[22:17] <darkblueb> one new partition on the same disk added to /etc/fstab  ,  and change the /etc/apt/sources.list   only, to start
[22:20] <darkblueb> next, remove snapd completely
[22:21] <darkblueb> that appears to be -- bare, core20, firefox, gnome3, gtk-something, snap3
[22:24] <darkblueb> I see firefox snapd touches most of the whole system.. and that there is some kind of app-armor like profile for it
[22:24] <darkblueb> aus mit Sie
[22:35] <darkblueb> documented, just in case.. done
[22:36] <darkblueb> next is QEmu .. I need to build and run VMs with this setup.. I have used VirtualBox for years for that.. however, qemu is native
[22:36] <darkblueb> I have no important reason to switch, in fact I had problems with qemu ten years ago.. much has been done since then
[22:37] <darkblueb> I believe our sysadmin uses LXC for containers, but I am not going that way .. 
[22:37] <darkblueb> also Docker has a "rootless" mode now, I saw briefly .. interested in that 
[22:55] <darkblueb> email says --  looking at the live-build debian package (which is also available in Ubuntu)
[23:05] <darkblueb> I see the live-build package does install parts of qemu