[03:10] <darkblueb> hi all - installing 'jammy' onto a disk.. not going well !!
[03:11] <darkblueb> the installer runs snapd, an md5checker and some xfce thing.. while reading from the DVD
[03:11] <darkblueb> it was 36 minutes and it said it was done.. "finally" I said.. that was about twenty minutes ago
[03:12] <darkblueb> I can see that the installer has a partition mounted at /target to write to .. but there is almost nothing there yet!
[03:12] <darkblueb> there is some IO mod_probe looking at the USB bus over and over
[03:13] <darkblueb> I can see these things in the ordinary terminal .. while the installer window is open.. 
[03:13] <darkblueb> I am dreading if it breaks into one of the other disks and touches that.. this is a terrible experience, and I am not sure it is even going to complete
[03:14] <darkblueb> this is the third install here.. the other two were in a VM with an ISO file mounted, and that worked fine.. also slow
[03:14] <darkblueb> this is a DVD, on a box with lots of disks, installing onto a USB external drive.. it doesnt look good right now at 1hour+ and I am fifty percent sure this is not going to complete
[03:16] <darkblueb> I noticed the 'Ubuntu Pro license check' and some "auto install service" that is not for me, but it happens
[03:16] <darkblueb> right now it is awful, if it destroys one of the disk setups on this box, it will be a disaster for me
[03:16] <darkblueb> .. not sure how many hours I should let this run.. 
[03:18] <arktvrvs> it shouldnt take hours
[03:20] <darkblueb> something about the target partition on a USB disk seems to have thrown it badly off track...
[03:21] <arktvrvs> in my experience usbs can be fussy. dont like it
[03:26] <darkblueb> aye - fail .. I killed it.. after 70+ minutes
[03:26] <darkblueb> and I am right, it never wrote to the /target partition
[03:26] <darkblueb> there is 36M there only..
[03:27] <darkblueb> at least GRUB is intact on other disks.. I am restarted and the setup is OK
[03:27] <darkblueb> nerve-racking
[03:28] <arktvrvs> an idea you may try
[03:28] <arktvrvs> i have installed DOS onto an sdcard before using qemu
[03:28] <arktvrvs> just by pointing the hdd paramater at /dev/whatever
[03:28] <arktvrvs> it might be worth a try
[03:32] <darkblueb> ? what hdd parameter .. I used the GUI with a DVD
[03:32] <arktvrvs> starting qemu from command line (kind of a  pain tbh)
[03:33] <darkblueb> there is no sdcard reader - this is a dual-xeon server box
[03:33] <arktvrvs> might work with usb too
[03:34] <darkblueb> booting the installer from a DVD takes ten minutes, just to start
[03:35] <arktvrvs> see that doesnt even sound right
[03:35] <darkblueb> maybe longer .. I did it 3 times so far, in the last two days
[03:35] <darkblueb> I know it!  but that is how it is running here
[03:36] <darkblueb> I use VirtualBox, and installed with an ISO image file, onto a VM, have not at all been like this
[03:36] <darkblueb> I have done that twice so far with jammy, and it all worked
[03:37] <darkblueb> this physical DVD on a server box, not at all ... awful
[03:38] <darkblueb> I will rest 12 hours and then think of what to do.. I cannot destroy that setup while trying to install
[03:38] <arktvrvs> agreed
[10:46] <xu-help78w> hi
[10:47] <xu-help78w> is anyone here right now?
[10:57] <ansary> hi
[12:10] <siix> man. people just have zero patience nowadays
[13:28] <darkblueb> more install action coming up -- next, identify and replace a drive on this giant server box, and install that
[16:52] <darkblueb> I do not know why this DVD reader is so slow with this boot DVD, but.. twenty minutes and I am now installing
[16:53] <darkblueb> note to self - hard disk model numbers are not useful without the serial number too
[16:54] <darkblueb> gui installer - I can switch to the disk utility to verifiy partitions of disks.. bad - auto-mounting lots of partitions during the install, makes the GUI open windows.. 
[16:57] <darkblueb> except -- the mini-terminal shows "scanning bus ... " again.. and nothing is being written to the partition mounted as target
[16:58] <darkblueb> minutes are going by.. this is not good.. same behavior as with the external USB3 mode
[16:58] <darkblueb> this installer is showing me happy non-cultural faces with a msg to join here, and, the installer is not installing
[16:59] <darkblueb> .. I do hear DVD activity, I will wait.. but this is not looking good so far
[17:01] <darkblueb> the thing that is common to both attempts, is that I did not format the disk, I said "use an existing partition" 
[17:01] <darkblueb> this may be flat-out fail-buggy 
[17:40] <darkblueb> I wonder if there is another way to use this installer disk to install..