[03:40] <guiverc> I've confirmed @Leokolb's issue with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/+bug/1975393 ... How up-to-date is our calamares?   Isn't what we have ~up-to-date thus I can go straight upstream with this issue?  (I mean github/calamares not debian-unstable)
[03:44] <guiverc> teward  [you're a DM :) so picking on you if you have time]  How can I really know what 'upstream relase/update standards 4.6.1' relates to?   ie. https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/c/calamares/calamares_3.2.58-1_changelog   is there somewhere I can look 
[03:45] <teward> "Update standards version to 4.6.1" <-- version of the Debain Packaging Policy
[03:45] <teward> https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/
[03:45] <teward> s/Packaging Policy/Policy/
[03:45] <teward> https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist.html#version-4-6-1
[03:45] <guiverc> :) on packaging policy; thanks alas maybe should have remembered that :(
[03:46] <teward> guiverc: basically, the core Debian Policy gets revised here and there
[03:46] <teward> so "update standards" in a package means updating the packaging standards to the Debian Policy for packaging of that standards version
[03:46] <guiverc> yeah I see emails on that b/c of #ubuntu-publicity ML etc I'm on
[03:46] <guiverc> s/#ubuntu/#debian  ^
[03:48] <teward> guiverc: yep, welcome to my world of packaging policy :P
[03:53]  * guiverc noted a 'temporary/acting' has been added to one of your hats...  elections such fun (not!)    .. boards, policies - I'm glad I don't have to reside in that world..
 guiverc I think there might be a very recent hot fix point release upstream that addresses the issue.
[11:28] <guiverc> yep you were right @kc2bez 
[11:28]  * guiverc looked and didn't find it