[00:00] <OvenWerks> pw as pa still accepts pa style profiles.
[00:13] <OvenWerks> I think that pw-jack bridging is already set up and can be done from the command line. I think that the reason it is not supported is more that there is no documentation.
[00:41] <Eickmeyer> Honestly, OvenWerks, if there's a cycle to introduce it, this would be the one.
[00:45] <OvenWerks> That thought has occured to me yes
[00:57] <OvenWerks> I had started on it but then this load of errors from tracking and GH issues got me going a different direction. The branch I was working no longer merges so I will have to start over. But first, I have some more clean up to do. I can't get rid of creating a jack client it appears because while I can get a list of ports and connections via dbus, I cannot get a real name for an alias... this 
[00:58] <OvenWerks> happenss to be pretty important for ffado devices (oJack - Level 7 - Jack_status: True
[00:59] <OvenWerks> opps.. anyway in ffado system:playback_1 is an alias for:firewire_pcm:0014860268b568f1_Unknown_out
[01:01] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, that's fair. Not sure how well PW would work with FW anyhow.
[01:01] <OvenWerks> where: 0014860268b568f1 is the device serial number (useful if you have two or more devices chained together) Unknown is the portname the device uses (mine doesn't)
[01:02] <OvenWerks> pw doesn't work with fw except in alsa mode... latency is too high to be usable in live mode (256/2 is the lowest)
[01:03] <OvenWerks> pw only emulates jack for alsa devices or rather only emulates the alsa backend... well if the device profiles are all set to "off" it may present a dummy device but without the ability to set up number of ports.
[01:04] <Eickmeyer> So, what if we had controls switch between different modes?
[01:05] <Eickmeyer> Like, all PW, PW + Jack, Jack + Pulse (like we have now), FFADO, etc. ?
[01:06] <OvenWerks> That is my plan... pulse-jack (for as long as pulse lasts or I get tired of it), pw only (what most people need, pw with jack as a device or pw as a desktop bridged to jack.
[01:07] <OvenWerks> So four modes
[01:07] <Eickmeyer> Awesome, we're on the same page.
[01:09] <OvenWerks> when we use pw to do the part of jack. the extra devices should allow renaming devices in pw to shorter names.
[01:10] <OvenWerks> I probably need to start over with a simple script that just does things to try them out and then over time move them into -controls
[01:11] <OvenWerks> I need to add the functionallity first before trying to change the GUI.