[10:27] <tsimonq2> https://github.com/lubuntu-team/calamares-packaging
[10:27] <tsimonq2> Looks like vorlon did the merge from Debian. I synced with our packaging.
[10:29] <kc2bez[m]> Excellent! Thanks for doing that.
[10:31] <kc2bez[m]> We need to update the VCS on that package on the next upload.
[10:31] <tsimonq2> To where?
[10:31] <tsimonq2> kc2bez[m]: Of course
[10:31] <kc2bez[m]> Launchpad
[10:32] <tsimonq2> okay
[10:32] <tsimonq2> Wait, our packaging in Launchpad?
[10:32] <tsimonq2> I forget
[10:32] <kc2bez[m]> Cala and calamares-settings-ubuntu are in LP
 https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-qt-code/+git
[10:32] <kc2bez[m]> If you do a clone from phab it points there
[11:05] <tsimonq2> Just uploaded the change to the archive.
[11:05] <tsimonq2> Please test guiverc and Leo K :)
[11:06] <tsimonq2> development release Cala install fstab stuff ^^^^
[11:07] <guiverc> ack.
 Just in..fill me in ..test what? (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <tsimonq2> Please test guiverc and Leo K :))
 Ok just saw @tsimonq2 last message - will do
[11:39] <guiverc> I've done 1x BIOS & 1x uEFI install with calamares 3.2.58-1ubuntu1 and no issues  
[11:40] <tsimonq2> Please grab this once it's built: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/3.2.58-1ubuntu2
[11:40] <guiverc> won't be before tomorrow for me anyway
 I will get later today..
[11:56] <arraybolt3> Is this happening in a few hours, or can I zsync my iso, install the latest stuff, and test now?
[11:57] <arraybolt3> Oh, I see there's no binary packages built yet. Nevermind, I'll test once it's all done.
 Looks like it landed in the proposed pocket.
[11:57] <arraybolt3> kc2bez: So it is done?
[11:58] <arraybolt3> Oh, BTW, in case you've not already seen it, I submitted a patch for the LibreOffice localization bug yesterday via the bug report on Launchpad.
 Not completely. It is still needs to migrate from proposed to release
[11:58] <arraybolt3> OK.
 I will wait for todays ISO and test then (re @kc2bez: Not completely. It is still needs to migrate from proposed to release)
 I saw the bug update, thanks for the patch and the testing.
 It is possible it might not make it on the iso depending on timing.
 If it makes it to release and isn't on the iso you can just update before you test.
 You can also enable proposed and update the one package and then test too.
[12:01] <arraybolt3> OK. So "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade", then install? Or do I need to pull a DEB manually and dpkg -i it in?
 Yes of course ..will do that (re @kc2bez: You can also enable proposed and update the one package and then test too.)
[12:03] <arraybolt3> Oh, actually, I see how to enable proposed. OK, will start the zsync and see what happens.
 Ok, cool. I was just digging up some links but as long as you got it.
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed
[12:05] <arraybolt3> Hey, that's from an official source, so that's probably better than the random Google snippet I got to come up.
 :D
[12:19] <arraybolt3> tsimonq2: In response to your asking for arguments against putting tmpfs on /tmp, the only thing I can think of is that it opens up a potential DOS attack vector - an application could write large files to /tmp and /dev/shm and be able to exhaust memory without the OOM killer being able to do much about it. Lubuntu's 512MB swapfile wouldn't help much. Other than that, it seems like a great idea.
[12:39] <guiverc> :) & thanks kc2bez[m] ,  I'd looked (rmadison) earlier & it wasn't there..
[12:46] <arraybolt3> Either I'm doing something wrong, or the package hasn't hit yet, because enabling pre-relased updates (which I think enables proposed?) ended up with a bunch of stuff to be updated, but not calamares.
 Think it has not hit yet.. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <arraybolt3> Either I'm doing something wrong, or the package hasn't hit yet, because enabling pre-relased updates (which I think enables proposed?) ended up with a bunch of stuff to be updated, but not calamares.)
[12:48] <arraybolt3> OK, well at least I didn't totally botch it. Should I be seeing binary packages listed here? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/3.2.58-1ubuntu2
[12:48] <arraybolt3> Currently there aren't any that I can see.
[12:50] <guiverc> give me a min or two & i'll see what this box sees; doing `sudo apt update`
[12:50] <arraybolt3> OK. If it matters, I'm in the US using a Calyx (T-Mobile) hotspot for Internet.
[12:52] <guiverc> doubt it; this box uses archive.ubuntu.com; I see only 3.2.58-1ubuntu1 from "500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu kinetic/universe amd64 Packages" currently..   we'll need to be patient.....
 same here.. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <guiverc> doubt it; this box uses archive.ubuntu.com; I see only 3.2.58-1ubuntu1 from "500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu kinetic/universe amd64 Packages" currently..   we'll need to be patient.....)
[12:53] <arraybolt3> OK, guess us team of ready-to-test folks kinda leaped before we looked...
[12:53] <arraybolt3> (I even decided to test bare-metal rather than my usual VM tests)
[12:54] <guiverc> :)   I'm a walking 'zombie'; tired & really ready for bed... so I won't be testing anything till tomorrow (my local time; ie. thursday)
 looked but no leap ... (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <arraybolt3> OK, guess us team of ready-to-test folks kinda leaped before we looked...)
[12:54] <arraybolt3> Ah, just found where it says it's still uploading the build. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/3.2.58-1ubuntu2/+build/23782857
[12:56]  * arraybolt3 dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/confusionlevel bs=1TB count=1048576
[12:57]  * guiverc smiles
[14:37] <arraybolt3> Hey guys, looks like the new Calamares finally landed. Booting up the test system now.
[14:59] <arraybolt3> Agh, now it's "binary packages awaiting publication:".
 Updated @tsimonq2 @kc2bez calamares and ran a test - still had to enter passphrase twice
 and got the grub menu in between ..also the daily iso did not get the calamares update
 Was there also something else to look for ? The swap/no swap problem was also present
 I think it should have fixed this bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/+bug/1888526 (re @Leokolb: Updated @tsimonq2 @kc2bez calamares and ran a test - still had to enter passphrase twice)
 Running a new test on a ssd @kc2bez
[17:32] <arraybolt3> I see the package finally is showing up in the binary packages list. I'm going to try testing it now.
 @kc2bez what exactly should i lokk for - system up and running (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <ubot93> Launchpad bug 1888526 in calamares (Ubuntu) "(L)ubuntu breaks functionality by tmpfs for /tmp" [Undecided, New])
 At any rate 7.8 GB free on /tmp
[18:07] <arraybolt3> I'm seeing 7.7 GB free on /tmp. I updated the whole live environment with the proposed repos before installing.
 Check the upstream bug report and play with fstab.conf (re @Leokolb: @kc2bez what exactly should i lokk for - system up and running)
 It's likely that we'll need an associated settings change
 (On the issue hit Changes)
 I think you are correct, we need to follow up with a settings change too.
[19:51] <arraybolt3> Is it useful for me to be "double-checking" the tests and fixes you guys are doing? I think I'm being helpful.
 Everything helps. Thank you.
[20:20] <tsimonq2> https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/4856
 "Is it useful for me to be "..." <- Yes, keep going. We'll all learn something new (like last time). :)
[20:20] <tsimonq2> https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/wiki/Building-from-source
[20:21] <RikMills> tsimonq2: really good to see you back so active :D
[20:21] <tsimonq2> Thanks :)
[20:21] <tsimonq2> Have you even seen my Debian uploads? :)
 it took simon over 2 years to realize he didnt know what he was doing with servers before i took them over :P
 *hides in the bunker*
[20:22] <tsimonq2> No, it took me two years to figure out I don't have the time to deal with servers unless it's at Altispeed. :P
 so i mean, he learns... eventually xD
 :P
[20:22]  * tsimonq2 hits @teward001 with 500 cannonballs one after another
 XD
[20:22] <RikMills> tsimonq2: probably not. you are not on my list of people who get their debian changes emails alerted to me
[20:23] <RikMills> I will add you
[20:23] <teward> *yawns and hands Simon the notice from a specific federal agency that handles taxation*
[20:23]  * tsimonq2 throws the tax code at teward
[20:24] <teward> actually the tax code is coming for you - legit was a notice in the council mailboxes from paypak
[20:24] <tsimonq2> wait really?
[20:24] <tsimonq2> is this a lawyer or accountant thing and is it on me or you?
[20:25] <kc2bez[m]> Simon Quigley: did you notice this is new. https://github.com/lxqt/xdg-desktop-portal-lxqt
[20:26] <tsimonq2> I didn't
[20:26] <tsimonq2> Needs packaging?
[20:30] <kc2bez[m]> It will yes. It will need to go through New.
[20:31] <tsimonq2> Okay, cool, I see it on the build list. I'll package it when I get there and we'll go from that point
[20:31] <tsimonq2> As for right now I'm just working off of GitHub until teward finishes setting up stuff :P
[20:31] <tsimonq2> Gotta love being the sysadmin huh? :P
[20:32] <teward> tsimonq2: answered in PMs.
[20:32] <teward> as for git i was waiting for you to show up and indicate you are ready for the mass migrations for git stuff
[20:33] <teward> i'm still finishing gittea up - full time job shit and family shit
[20:33] <tsimonq2> not today but as evidenced by this morning I'm around
[20:33] <tsimonq2> ok hi
[20:33] <tsimonq2> I went on an itch-scratching spree and accidentally updated 10 rust packages in Debian oops
[20:33] <tsimonq2> fair enough
[20:36] <kc2bez[m]> Keep us posted on your progress teward   
[20:36]  * arraybolt3 hands tsimonq a Debian 11 LXDE ISO
[20:36] <kc2bez[m]> I am here to help too
[20:37] <arraybolt3> (Wow, I just *had* to botch the username of one of the core devs when I went to make a joke, didn't I?!)
[20:37] <kc2bez[m]> I am turning a bit of corner and should have some more time hopefully 
[20:37]  * tsimonq2 throws a Gentoo ISO at arraybolt3
[20:38]  * arraybolt3 overclocks CPU to 20 GHz to prep for compilation
[20:38] <arraybolt3> (Actually, I've been intending to try Gentoo at one point, maybe I should? Looks cool.)
[20:39] <tsimonq2> oh believe me I'm already compiling a kernel have three packages compiling and have Chrome open
[20:39] <tsimonq2> don't worry, my computer already goes through enough ;)
[20:39] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3: Cool if you have a good amount of time and computing power lol
[20:40] <arraybolt3> 32 GB DDR3 1600 MHz RAM and a quad-core 3rd or 4th gen Intel Xeon? Not sure if that quite counts as high power nowadays, but it works for what I do so far. (I installed arch a couple of times, btw. Accidentally nuked one install and lost the VM of the other install, never went back.)
[20:42] <arraybolt3> Back on topic. tsimonq2: I'm not familiar with fstab.conf, I only know about /etc/fstab. Are those the same, and if not, what settings need to be fiddled with exactly?
[20:43] <kc2bez[m]> It is one of the cala modules
[20:43] <kc2bez[m]> It is in cala settings
[20:43] <kc2bez[m]> It sets up /etc/fstab
[20:43] <arraybolt3> Perfect. OK. I'll spin up a VM and see what's what.
[21:02] <tsimonq2> I have liblxqt and libqtxdg in that CI train PPA right now. Assuming everything goes right, that depwait that liblxqt will present will be resolved automatically once libqtxdg publishes.
[21:03] <tsimonq2> I just wanted to make sure we soft lock the versions on those stacks to at least the upstream versions so the stack migrates and installs together.
 "Back on topic. Simon Quigley: I..." <- fstab.conf = calamares settings which autogenerates /etc/fstab
[21:03] <tsimonq2> See the above upstream PR (and the one linked in the changelog entry for the upload)
[21:03] <tsimonq2> Go to the changes, skim em
[21:03] <tsimonq2> You'll get a good idea
[21:04] <tsimonq2> And then apt-file find calamares-settings-lubuntu | grep fstab.conf will tell you where that is
[21:04] <tsimonq2> er sorry apt-file show not find
[21:05] <tsimonq2> Packaging and tags now pushed for both. Bileto does a copy without having to re-upload so it's the same package.
[21:06] <tsimonq2> ^^ if anyone can retry those builds while I go AFK, and/or sponsor someone else's contributions, lmk
[21:06] <arraybolt3> I actually know where fstab.conf is. I should take a look at the pull request. I see the bug report link, is it the ~ci-train-ppa-service that has the pull request? Or is it something in GitHub?
[21:06] <tsimonq2> Just no touchie without talking to me first if I'm around :)
[21:06] <arraybolt3> Oh, wait, you probably mean the lxqt stuff...
[21:07] <tsimonq2> arraybolt3: Nope, it's in GitHub, see the latest upload to the calamares package in Kinetic
[21:07] <tsimonq2> !upkg calamares in duckduckgo.com will get you there
[21:07] <tsimonq2> ha
[21:07] <tsimonq2> anyway
[21:07] <arraybolt3> Wow, that was unexpected...
[21:07] <tsimonq2> afk for now, will be available async, if you need to have it you already have my batphone number
[21:07] <tsimonq2> ttfn
[21:09] <arraybolt3> kc2bez[m]: If you know, what on earth is tsimonq2's batphone number?
[21:10] <tsimonq2> not publicly in an irc channel please :P
[21:10] <tsimonq2> anyway
[21:10] <tsimonq2> ttfn
[21:10] <arraybolt3> Oh OK, sorry, didn't know what you were saying...
[21:10] <tsimonq2> all good my friend :)
[21:28] <arraybolt3> Looks like the new Calamares is doing its job! I added the tmpfs settings into fstab.conf, did the install, and now I can see 12.8 GB free space in tmpfs on a VM with 4 GB RAM. I set both the default and ssd options to not mount tmpfs.