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faekjarzon 22.04 (i've just upgraded from 21.04, via 21.10), htop isn't showing the core temps (AMD on B550) - i already ran sensors-detect, rebootet, still nope. Any ideas?00:14
timothiasI didnt know htop would show temps.00:15
timothiasI knew glances would.00:15
faekjarzhtop DID tell me core temps on 21.04 ;)00:18
timothiasNot doubting you. Just didnt know it would do that.00:18
timothiasId always gone to glances for temps etc.00:18
faekjarzno worries ;)00:18
timothiasOf course, Im running ubuntu on a PI00:18
timothiasso temps arent that big of a concern00:18
Bashing-omfaekjarz: I do ' sensors ' in terminal for temps and voltages.00:19
faekjarzBashing-om: yeah, that was my idea as well - it doesn't show any core temps, nor voltages → i'll run sensors-detect again, and make sure i load the required modules manually00:21
timothiasis it still that lmsensors package?00:25
ravagetimothias, you have to enable it in the display options. at least on my intel CPU it works fine then00:25
timothiasdisplay options in htop?00:25
ravageyes00:25
timothiask00:25
timothiasima do that00:25
ravageF2 -> display options00:25
* timothias flexes00:25
faekjarzLOL, sensors-detect put lots of dupes in my /etc/modules *cleans it up*00:26
* faekjarz smirks at timothias00:27
ravagemaybe faekjarz should check that option in there too :)00:27
faekjarzwell, it's already active, via the pre-upgrade (21.04) config in my ~/ …but maybe i should turn it off, and back on again ;) (i've upgraded to 22.04)00:29
ravageim too lazy to boot 22.04 on the pi right now. i could check tomorrow if i see any readings00:31
faekjarzwell, it didn't help - modprobe'd the mods (from sensors-detect) manually, then disabled "show temps" in htop, quit htop, restarted htop, enabled "show temps" → nope00:33
ravagedoes sensors show them?00:33
faekjarznope, neither plain sensors, nor sudo sensors00:34
oerhekssensors-detect00:35
ravagei only have a debian 11 available on the pi 400:36
ravagethat does not detect anything with sensors-detect00:36
ravage"Sorry, no sensors were detected."00:36
timothiasaint got the latest raspbian?00:36
oerheksas root, i think00:36
faekjarzoerheks: i'm currently double-checking(with lsmod) that all modules, that sensors-detect put in my /etc/modules are actually loaded00:36
timothiasso is systemd loading modules? or does it just make udev do it?00:37
timothias< -- not great with computers.00:37
faekjarzhmm, all modules loaded, libsensors is installed - now, i'm double-checking which version of libsensors htop requires00:39
Bashing-omfaekjarz: ' systemctl status lm-sensors.service ' ?00:40
oerheksi do not recall needed, but a logout/login could help.00:40
faekjarzBashing-om: lm-sensors.service is enabled, loaded, "active (exited)" (i'll try that, oerheks)00:44
faekjarzbtw, i'm running htop as sudo/root00:45
ravagefaekjarz, https://p.haxxors.com/nl4zsjb0.txt this should work if you just want to know the CPU temp00:46
timothiasdmesg saying anything after the sensors commands?00:47
faekjarzravage: thank you, i'm sure those temps are stashed somewhere in sysfs - but i'm stubborn, and want them in htop xD LOL00:47
sarnoldmillidegrees??00:47
ravage> cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp00:48
ravage4625100:48
faekjarzfor the giggles, i'll install/try psensors00:51
faekjarzoh, there's no psensors package on 22.04 …maybe a snap?00:52
faekjarznope00:52
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faekjarzi'll try glances now00:56
faekjarzoof, 480MB and 59 new pkgs ;)00:57
Bashing-omgood tech support == #ubuntu - hint hint :D00:58
timothiasif installing glances works, i bet htop works afterward00:58
timothiasglances also has a web interface00:58
faekjarzhaha, that'd be funny xD00:58
timothiasglances -w00:58
Bashing-omOOppps 6 wtong chabbel :(00:58
faekjarzare there any other sensor-packages, other than lm-sensors? (there might be something wrong with lm-sensors)01:06
faekjarzsince "sensors" (lm-sensors) doesn't even show me core temps - i should file a bug against lm-sensors, rather than htop, right (maybe, it's a known issue, already) ← it'd be on launchpad, right?01:08
sarnoldI think these days people tend to just use the files in /sys, etc cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone*/temp /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.*/hwmon/hwmon*/temp*_input /sys/devices/platform/opal-sensor/hwmon/hwmon0/temp*_input   or whatever01:09
geniifaekjarz: You might also need hddtemp installed before it works in htop01:11
xiao_how to install PPA from trusty to jammy (ubuntu 22)?01:18
xiao_https://launchpad.net/~cal-sdb/+archive/ubuntu/smap01:18
sarnoldxiao_: ask the author to configure the ppa to build for the new releases, and then upload new packages01:19
xiao_sarnold? Can I do it myself? (I actually tried to install with dpkg on Ubuntu jammy, with errors: python-twisted uninstallable)01:22
sarnoldxiao_: sure, if the license allows it, you can download the sources, modify them as necessary (eg, python3-twisted instead), fix all the python2 -> python3 bugs, then submit the packages to build in your own ppa01:23
faekjarzhow many CCDs does a Ryzen 7 5800X have, 1 or 2 - it's 8 cores per CCD, right? 32°C seems rather low, though → https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZKkVr6r6q5/ …are these the doids, i'm looking for?01:24
nubesecif anybody knows a step by step guide to run openvpn over stunnel plz pm me with the link02:35
sarnolddoesn't openvpn already set up a tls link?02:36
oerheksnubesec, your vpn service provider gives you the details, no?02:40
nubesecno02:41
oerhekswhat is the use of a tunnel within a tunnel within a tunel?02:43
oerheksgrinn02:43
sarnoldfiguring out just how horrible nested TCP delayed ACKs can be02:43
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BadAtomoerheks: likely to mask the vpn as generic port 443 traffic to evade watchful government eyes and DPI firewalls02:52
oerheksHis VPN provider should say if he supports this.02:57
faekjarzwould "cryptsetup --benchmark" be a somewhat reasonable (and quick) method to increase my CPU core temp?03:01
faekjarz*it's without the hyphens03:02
oerheksyes, without OOM kicking in03:02
faekjarzi think i've cracked my HTOP issue - it seems to be a version issue. There's a 3.0.5 in the 22.04 deb repo, but  a 3.2.0 in the snap repo. htop 3.2.0 still doesn't give me temps for ALL the cores, but at least for ONE. And the cryptsetup benchmark drove it up to expected levels - ca. 56 - 64°C (fancy Noctua NH-D15 dual-tower cooler)03:08
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descent1audacious is messed up on 22.04 it start getting choppy and unresponsive03:57
descent1i think it needs an update version in repos03:58
oerheksdescent1, 3.1.3 as snap https://snapcraft.io/audacity04:30
oerhekscompared with launchpad https://launchpad.net/audacity/+packages04:30
oerheksoops audacious, not audacity04:31
oerhekshttps://launchpad.net/audacious/+packages04:31
descent1ok04:33
descent1thank you04:34
arraybolt3faekjarz: Keep in mind that just hitting 100% on your CPU won't drive it to its highest temps - some workloads hit the CPU harder than others. If you want to REALLY stress your system, throw Prime95 at it. It's available for Linux. https://www.mersenne.org/download/04:49
faekjarzarraybolt3: aye, i use Prime95 for long duration burn-ins - the cryptsetup benchmark produces less than a minute of load, but gets the temps up as well - it was sufficient for my purpose04:54
arraybolt3faekjarz: Ah, that makes sense. FWIW, you can use the Small FFTs option to hit the CPU as hard as possible and get the temps up ASAP for quick testing. But if what you've done works well for you, great. I might look into the cryptsetup benchmark myself. Thanks!04:57
arraybolt3Man, I don't know what happened, but I was running Prime95 on my system, everything seemed to be going great, and I was using my system for real work at the same time. I stopped Prime95, and all of the sudden I got hit with an avalanche of crash reports that didn't even makes sense ("Kdenlive has closed unexpectedly" - uh, kdenlive wasn't even on???). Tons and tons of crashes, when it didn't look like anything had even crashed - my system was still05:19
arraybolt3behaving itself normally, even with this sudden avalanche of errors. It finally stopped, and my system seems to be just fine, but does anyone know what happened and if there's any followup I should do? I'm on Ubuntu Studio 22.04 with the proprietary nVidia drivers.05:19
arraybolt3(I did have to restart Quassel IRC, it looked like it actually crashed, but... how on earth could stopping Prime95 do that? And how could my system throw an absolute fit like that but still be functioning properly?)05:20
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arraybolt3(Also, I just checked KDE Partition Manager - all my disk partitions are still here, so I don't think a disk just died on me.)05:21
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summonnerjhutchins, actually the mouse is fine, it's just the left-click isn't working. I've installed piper, which gives me a newer libratbag... and the G602 (sorry I said G604 earlier) is seen and correctly determined, but it's just the left-click that's still not working06:36
summonnerpairing I don't think would be an issue, as then it wouldn't track nor respond with right-click and middle click06:36
summonnerhttps://github.com/libratbag/libratbag/issues/832#issuecomment-1073410529     is pretty much my issue, so just waiting on a fix I guess06:37
ubottuIssue 832 in libratbag/libratbag "Logitech G602 and Logitech G604 not recognized" [Open]06:37
nubesecnewb here. can i get help setting up a vps with OpenVPN + stunnel/obsfproxy?06:56
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KhepraHi. What is the difference between "access home" and "access personal data" permissions on (firefox) snaps?07:19
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ravageKhepra, snap connections firefox07:35
ravagepersonal-files            firefox:dot-mozilla-firefox     :personal-files07:36
Khepraravage: yes, and?07:36
Kheprawhat is the difference, then?07:36
ravageso this gives access to the .mozilla directory of the snap. as long as it also has access to home this seems redundant07:37
Khepraokay, but then I have another problem. If I disable both, I then can't install extensions or download anything. I just want to prevent FF from accessing my real ~/07:38
ravagebut maybe ~/snap has special permissions. no idea :)07:38
Khepraso yeah I want it confined within ~/snap/firefox07:38
ravagethen you would have to set your downloads directory to that path i guess07:39
Kheprahrm07:39
ravagebut i think the apparmor profile already covers a lot of that07:40
Kheprait only covers hidden dirs/files but things like documents and other ~/ stuff is still accessible to it07:41
ravagei can only download to Downloads really07:42
ravageso the access to other files is limited07:42
Khepraravage: well, I'm trying access with file:// URI scheme, as the file manager is desktop's and there's that integration that somehow connects the snap with any file in the system07:46
ravagei dont see the thread here really? who would modify the snap?07:49
ravagefollowing a link to file:// from an external site does not work07:50
ravage*threat07:52
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Khepraravage: you do understand browsers load potentially crafted remote code, images, html, css, fonts, things? you don't have to modify a snap for it to be a threat to your system08:05
ravageyes but you dont want to disable that. or use a text browser08:05
Khepraravage: actually I do want to disable access to $HOME08:11
Khepratherre is no need for going back to 1990s with text browsers. browsers can be confined and secured; but I'm just trying to see how much of that is possible with snaps, as opposted to unsnapped browser with custom AA profile08:12
Guest72Hello, Quick question. I have just build the server with ubuntu desktop and there is no keyboard or mouse. At 4AM openwrt router is rebooting and ubuntu NIC is down and stays down. I need to connect mouse and keyboard to enable network what can be the reason for not reconnecting?08:13
KhepraGuest72: who knows. You'll need logs and diagnostics.08:16
Guest72Khepra - thank you for your answer. How do I go about checking the log?08:18
ahauserhi, I'm currently using Ubuntu 20.04, but I have no update proposed when trying to use dist-upgrade or do-release-upgrade. Any ideas ?08:19
ravageahauser, upgrades from 20.04 to 22.04 will be availablte when 22.04.1 is released. expected in august. if you want to upgrade now use "sudo do-release-upgrade -d"08:20
Maik!ltsupgrade | ahauser08:20
ubottuahauser: Regular upgrades from the last but one LTS release to the latest LTS release, 22.04 "Jammy Jellyfish", are enabled days or weeks after 22.04.1 is released. This delay helps to ensure that any lingering issues are resolved before people upgrade production systems. If you'd prefer to upgrade now, use sudo do-release-upgrade -d08:20
ahauserravage, Maik thanks08:21
Maikyou're welcome :)08:21
KhepraGuest72: you log into the system and you check the journal with journalctl.  I'd start by looking for errors with -e , or -k for kernel log entries which might indicate a failure outside of error severity. i'd check the NIC status and anything in the logs pertaining to the nic name08:30
Guest72I have found this but I don't know if this is any help ? journalctl -u NetworkManager May 24 04:31:17 nvidia-shield NetworkManager[1139]: <info>  [1653363077.2368] device (enp42s0): Activation: successful, device activated.08:32
Guest72May 24 04:31:21 nvidia-shield NetworkManager[1139]: <info>  [1653363081.9128] device (enp42s0): carrier: link connected08:32
Guest72May 24 04:31:31 nvidia-shield NetworkManager[1139]: <info>  [1653363091.3839] device (enp42s0): carrier: link connected08:32
Guest72May 24 04:31:38 nvidia-shield NetworkManager[1139]: <info>  [1653363098.4588] device (enp42s0): state change: activated -> unavailable (reason 'carrier-changed', sys-iface-state: 'external')08:32
Guest72May 24 04:31:45 nvidia-shield NetworkManager[1139]: <info>  [1653363105.2580] device (enp42s0): carrier: link connected08:32
Guest72May 24 04:31:45 nvidia-shield NetworkManager[1139]: <info>  [1653363105.2583] device (enp42s0): state change: unavailable -> disconnected (reason 'carrier-changed', sys-iface-state: 'external')08:32
KhepraGuest72: you must be new to IRC. When the bot unmutes you, use a pastebin.08:32
Khepra!pastebin08:32
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.08:32
mncheckis there an irc channel for snap application related problems?08:37
Guest72!pastebinit May 24 04:31:17 nvidia-shield NetworkManager[1139]: <info>  [1653363077.2368] device (enp42s0): Activation: successful, device activated.08:37
Guest72May 24 04:31:21 nvidia-shield NetworkManager[1139]: <info>  [1653363081.9128] device (enp42s0): carrier: link connected08:37
Guest72May 24 04:31:31 nvidia-shield NetworkManager[1139]: <info>  [1653363091.3839] device (enp42s0): carrier: link connected08:37
Guest72May 24 04:31:38 nvidia-shield NetworkManager[1139]: <info>  [1653363098.4588] device (enp42s0): state change: activated -> unavailable (reason 'carrier-changed', sys-iface-state: 'external')08:37
Guest72May 24 04:31:45 nvidia-shield NetworkManager[1139]: <info>  [1653363105.2580] device (enp42s0): carrier: link connected08:37
KhepraGuest72: seriously?08:38
ravagemncheck, #snappy08:38
kazuhahi08:39
kazuhaumm I have an issue with my display08:40
kazuhaand I'm not sure if it's my display or gnome08:40
kazuhait just shifts to the right and instantly snaps back sometimes08:40
kazuhalike a flicker08:40
kazuhaI've changed my nvidia driver to the proprietary one and it is still happening08:40
kazuhavery weird issue08:40
mncheckravage, thank you08:41
ravagekazuha, which ubuntu version? how is the display connected? wayland or xorg?08:42
Guest25Hi, what's the deal with ddebs.ubuntu.com?08:44
ravageGuest25, looks like a malfunctioning service08:45
Guest25Are there any public mirrors for it?08:45
Guest72https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/cQpTqJpSRD/08:45
ravageGuest25, i dont think so08:47
cbreakso, I started an ubuntu live server image, and now it's "waiting for cloud init". Why?08:49
ravageGuest72, try a static IP and add  ignore-carrier=enp42s0 to your NetworkManager.conf08:49
KhepraGuest72: either your cable is faulty or the remote end is faulty, or there's another hardwre malfunction08:49
KhepraGuest72: another possiblity, though less likely, you're missing firwmare for your device; you can check if the kernel wants firmware files and doesn't find them, with   dmesg | grep -i firmware08:50
ravagecbreak, what image?08:50
ravagecbreak, also #ubuntu-server may be more helpful for this08:51
cbreakubuntu-22.04-live-server-amd64.iso08:51
cbreaksomehow my server doesn't boot anymore, so I'm trying to see why via booting from USB08:51
ravageit only hangs for about 3 seconds here at that stage08:53
cbreakbeen waiting for 2 mins already08:55
Guest72Khepra Thank you I will check with different cable (The connection is fine for whole day just during router restart it is not connecting again)08:55
cbreaknow it switched to "Finished Download data for packages that failed at package install time."08:56
Guest72ravage I did already setup static IP but i Will modify the config08:56
oerheksguest25 that is the mirror for debug symbols08:56
oerheks!debug08:56
ubottuFor help debugging your program, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures08:56
cbreakheh: https://postimg.cc/HjjzWpHc :)08:59
ravageplease do :)09:00
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cbreakso, this was weird. I booted into the live environment, reinstalled grub, no improvement. Still hanging with "alloc magic is broken at"10:19
cbreaktried it again, renaming the EFI directory on the efi partition, installing grub again... same result10:19
cbreakthen I install refind, to get more convenient control over the boot process10:19
cbreakturns out it can boot the initrd directly... too bad that doesn't work since it doesn't know which rootfs to use10:20
cbreakbut then I try the fallback boot loader10:20
cbreak... which works...10:20
blugreenhi all,is there a way to make a driver persistent after an update ? coz this adapter is not plug n play,its the 3rd time im reinstalling it after an update10:20
Jeremy31blugreen: what driver?10:23
blugreenJeremy31, rtl8188fu10:23
Jeremy31blugreen: from what source?10:23
blugreenJeremy31, https://github.com/kelebek333/rtl8188fu10:24
Jeremy31blugreen: open the folder in terminal and do> make clean10:25
guestavo_hombrehello. Imagine I run fullupgrade -y and all runs smooth, but initramfs fails, because my boot is too small.... how can I initiate it manually ?10:25
blugreenJeremy31, i already installed it,im just anticipating the next malfunction after an update10:27
Jeremy31blugreen: we need to have the source clean to add it with dkms10:27
blugreenJeremy31, i see,im not code savy,what is the make clean for? & w/c specific folder do i need to open10:28
Jeremy31blugreen: try>  cd rtl8188fu && make clean && sudo dkms install rtl8188fu/1.010:28
Jeremy31blugreen: try>  cd rtl8188fu && make clean && sudo dkms add .10:29
Jeremy31be sure to include the . in the command10:29
Jeremy31There are instructions on adding the PPA for the driver on that github page that installs the dkms10:30
blugreenJeremy31, Module rtl8188fu/1.0 already installed on kernel 4.15.0-180-generic/x86_6410:30
Jeremy31Using Ubuntu 18.04?10:30
blugreenyes10:30
Jeremy31blugreen: see if it updates with>  git pull10:31
blugreenJeremy31, last message on terminal is : Already up to date.10:32
Jeremy31blugreen: can you post a question at ubuntuforums.org as I have to head to work soon10:36
blugreenJeremy31, tnx a lot10:37
blugreeninstalling the driver using ppa is persistent after an update ?10:38
blugreen& is it ok to install using ppa if it is already installed using github10:39
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BluesKajHi all11:32
Maceranybody know what would cause a delay in the use of cached ad credentials when using the samba+pam_winbind method of joining the AD?11:33
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TheodorosHello dear Ubuntu users11:50
arraybolt3Theodoros: Hello! How can we help you today?11:54
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User_666hello do old drivers for amd still work on newest Lubuntu?13:18
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biapyHi, i've setup wireguard using nmcli. It start at boot when the wifi connection is not up, and i'm without internet when the wifi comes up. I need to disable and reenable the wireguard connection for the vpn to work. Is there a way to make the wireguard connection depends on a working Internet with NetworkManager ?13:26
Syntheticпривет13:30
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user__hi13:31
User_666shit how to run int terminal installer with end .run?13:35
biapyUser_666: chmod +x file.run   and then  ./file.run13:36
User_666thx13:37
User_666ok timne to crash lubuntu13:37
User_666uhhh13:37
User_666fuck i cant install drivers13:37
leftyfbUser_666: mine you, we do not suggest and cannot support whatever application you are running13:37
leftyfb!language | User_66613:37
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User_666yeach i need drivers but xserwer is to new ehh13:38
gordonjcpUser_666: this sounds unlikely13:39
User_666last version is for ubuntu 14on official amd site, driver from run command give me this error,Detected X Server version 'XServer 1.21.1.3_64a' is not supported. Supported versions are X.Org 6.9 or later, up to XServer 1.10 (default:v2:x86_64:lib32:XServer 1.21.1.3_64a:none:5.15.0-33-generic:)13:40
User_666Installation will not proceed.13:40
gordonjcpUser_666: for which card?13:41
User_666ATI Mobility Radeon HD 565013:41
gordonjcpah13:41
User_666old acer aspire 7540 i just revive it13:41
gordonjcpthat ought to be supported by amdgpu13:42
gordonjcpyou won't be able to install the proprietary drivers, it's too old13:42
leftyfbUser_666: what version of ubuntu?13:45
User_666latest but i use lubuntu just for lightweight13:45
leftyfbUser_666: cat /etc/os-release | nc termbin.com 999913:46
User_666https://termbin.com/8qhk13:47
leftyfbUser_666: are you running wayland or xorg?13:48
User_666lxde13:48
leftyfbecho $XDG_SESSION_TYPE13:49
User_666x1113:50
User_666hmm i found some fishy drivers i try them oibaf13:52
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biapyUser_666: do you really need proprietary drivers for amd gpu ? the amd driver are mainly opensource.13:56
User_666hmm i dont want make problems with this laptop like i have on asus with dual hd 5400 where when you scrol fast on site wih wideo you ged slide show13:57
Az5Hey, I've been trying for about 4 hours to get a remote desktop service installed on a Raspberry pi 4 running Ubuntu 22.02. I've tried a lot of things and run into various walls,  I'm getting furthest with xrdp, I can connect but I'm getting a display issue i.imgur.com/zTqUViq.png14:04
Az5Seems like a misconfiguration of display settings but I'm at a loss as  to how to troubleshoot. What's really odd is if the screen times out it gives me the correct (unscrambled) login window https://i.imgur.com/fuFuVEm.png14:05
Az5Any help would be massively appreciated. I thought getting vnc up on the PI would be the easy part of what I wanted to do with it :(14:06
summonnerthe default raspian desktop image has it built in14:19
leftyfbAz5: did you make sure you disable wayland and revert to xorg?14:20
waveformAz5, there is a known issue with remote desktop on arm64 at the moment, let me see if I can dig out the issue14:21
raverAz5: have you tried x11vnc?14:25
raverI once had nomachine running which were pretty stable too14:25
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thesebAny issues with writing to Windows formatted USB thumb drive?  I vaguely remember while back having to reformat it as ext3 or some such otherwise it had issues with symlink/perms/??? I can't remember. sound familar to anyone?15:00
leftyfbtheseb: no issues15:01
ograwell, vfat does indeed not support symlinks and files always have all perms ....15:01
ograbut for just transferring/storing files, that is fine15:02
thesebleftyfb: ogra: thanks15:06
GSMarquisHad this pc over a year. Today I see a switch ontop of case to turn off rainbow vomit leds. I can not belive I stared at those blinky lights for a year.15:15
GSMarquisThe switch is slightly below the surface of the case, the other switches are not......thats my defense.15:27
waveformAz5, sorry -- got distracted by yet another meeting; here's the ticket I mentioned: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-remote-desktop/+bug/197013915:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1970139 in gnome-remote-desktop (Ubuntu) "VNC Connection doesn't work on arm64 (Raspberry Pi 4 8Gb) in Ubuntu 22.04 LTS" [High, In Progress]15:31
GSMarquis24-915:43
leftyfbGSMarquis: can we help you with something?15:45
GSMarquisSorry, I had my monitor switched to another PC and used wrong keyboard. Sorry.16:40
rrrat one16:45
webchat5Hi, is anyone here?17:37
webchat5I'm having a rather odd issue that I hoped that I could get assistance with.17:38
beowuffThere are many people here. You don't need to ask to ask. Just ask. Note it can take sometime before someone might be able to help you.17:39
webchat5Oh, hi there wuff.17:39
webchat5Ya still around.17:39
webchat5Well, this time it's an odd phenomenon.17:39
arraybolt3I'm here.17:39
webchat5Basically I found an old Windows 8 tablet that I decided to ressurect. And I managed to pull it off.17:40
webchat5The problem is with the mouse axis.17:40
webchat5It's.... inverted.17:40
arraybolt3?!17:40
beowuffAll directions, or just one?17:40
webchat5Basically, right goes left, left goes right, top goes bottom, and bottom goes top.17:40
leftyfbwebchat5: what OS are you running on it?17:40
webchat5I learned that it could be set by changing the transformation matrix.17:41
webchat5And, it worked. The touchpad now points correctly.17:41
webchat5But... touching is still inverted.17:41
webchat5If I place the pointer on the top-left, it'll click on the bottom-right.17:42
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webchat5Perhaps a drawing would help?17:42
leftyfbwebchat5: what OS are you running on it?17:42
webchat5Oh, it's affected in both Xubuntu and Linux Lite.17:42
arraybolt3The solution will probably depend on whether you're on Xorg or Wayland.17:42
webchat5I installed Linux Lite, and as expected, still is affected.17:43
webchat5And the odd thing, after a while, the mouse will invert again.17:43
arraybolt3What version of Xubuntu were you using? 20.04? 22.04?17:44
webchat5It was the latest LTS version.17:44
leftyfbwebchat5: if you want support here, you'll need to put ubuntu back on the tablet. Not linux lite17:44
webchat5But... that's the thing. I don't think it is related to both distros.17:44
webchat5And isn't Lite a ubuntu derivative?17:45
arraybolt3Yeah, but if it happens on Xubuntu, may as well answer it, since it's an Ubuntu problem, too.17:45
leftyfbwebchat5: we do not support ubuntu derivatives17:45
arraybolt3(Ubuntu derivatives and flavours are different. Flavours (Xubuntu, Lubuntu, etc) are supported, derivatives (Linux Mint, Linux Lite, etc) are not.)17:45
webchat5I see. Is there any other place that would be better suited?17:45
leftyfbwebchat5: put ubuntu back on the tablet and them come back. I'd suggest 22.0417:46
webchat5Can it be Xubuntu?17:46
leftyfbyes17:46
arraybolt3Yep.17:46
webchat5Alright, be back soon.17:46
arraybolt3For once you've got Xubuntu back on the tablet, this answer might work for you: https://askubuntu.com/questions/920051/how-to-rotate-touch-screen-input-on-ubuntu-16-0417:46
webchat5Uh, does Xubuntu 64 bit version have both bootloaders?17:47
leftyfbboth bootloaders?17:48
webchat5This thing only supports a 32 bit bootloader.17:48
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leftyfbUbuntu 18.04 is the last release to support 32bit17:49
webchat5Well, the CPU supports the 64 bit architecture.17:49
webchat5But... the bootloader is 32 bit.17:49
leftyfbgood luck with that17:50
webchat5That's why I did install Linux Lite, because it came with both bootloaders.17:50
leftyfbso you never installed xubuntu then17:50
webchat5I did... the 32 bit version.17:50
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webchat5It's weird, I know. And I double checked. Apparently it's rather common in these Windows tablets.17:53
beowuffCan you use a different boot loader, like rEFind?18:00
webchat5Doesn't it come in the ISO by default?18:00
leftyfbbeowuff: you can though it's not something we can support here18:00
webchat5would lubuntu suffice as well?18:03
webchat5I can no longer find a recent 32 bit version for xubuntu.18:03
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leftyfbwebchat5: 18.04 is the last version that supported 32bit18:03
leftyfb!flavor | webchat518:04
ubottuwebchat5: Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours18:04
arraybolt3Well, look, you've got Xubuntu on it, and 18.04 is still supported. Let's just roll with it and try to fix the touchscreen problem, and then webchat5 can take that info and use it wherever they want.18:12
leftyfbarraybolt3: they do not currently have xubuntu on it18:13
arraybolt3They just said they installed the 32-bit version.18:13
arraybolt3<leftyfb> so you never installed xubuntu then18:13
arraybolt3<webchat5> I did... the 32 bit version.18:13
leftyfbarraybolt3: they did at one point, not now18:14
leftyfb2022 May 25 14:03:41 <webchat5>I can no longer find a recent 32 bit version for xubuntu.18:14
arraybolt3I didn't see anything indicating that they switched distros from the time they said that. And he said, "Alright, be back soon". I thought he did.18:14
arraybolt3webchat5: Are you currently running Xubuntu 18.04 on the tablet at the moment?18:15
webchat5I did switch to Linux Lite. I am downloading Lubuntu as we speak.18:15
arraybolt3Lubuntu 18.04?18:15
webchat518.04 alternate.18:15
leftyfbthey also previously said they had the latest LTS installed, which isn't possible.18:15
webchat5Well, the latest 32 bit LTS back then.18:16
arraybolt3leftyfb: Since this is a problem that happens in a supported Ubuntu release, and webchat5 is downloading a supported Ubuntu flavour, can we just focus on fixing the issue?18:17
leftyfbonce the supported OS is installed on it, sure18:18
webchat5Alright, but the issue will still be the same.18:18
leftyfbwebchat5: sure, but we cannot troubleshoot with another OS on it18:19
arraybolt3Since the supported OS has the exact same problem, and they know this from experience, and there's no other pressing matters at hand, let's dig up solutions in the mean time. May as well get the work out of the way now, right? (And obviously, our advice will apply to the supported OS, not Linux Lite.)18:19
webchat5Of course.18:19
leftyfbwebchat5: let us know when you get Ubuntu installed18:20
webchat5Changing the transformation matrix fixes the direction temporarily, but it does not seem to store it.18:20
webchat5And the mouse pointer location still remains inverted.18:20
arraybolt3Once Lubuntu 18.04 is installed, try these instructions and see if they work: https://askubuntu.com/questions/920051/how-to-rotate-touch-screen-input-on-ubuntu-16-0418:22
bleidoes anyone know a command line voice modulator18:40
bleiwith options. lots of options.18:41
jhutchinsblei: Text-to-speech?  Festival is the industry reference, but it's not quick & easy.18:46
bleia voice modulator but not tts18:46
descent1pulseeffects? you can change the pitch and other effects18:49
blei^ thanks18:54
zteamHi all, quick question does Disk utility chech for badblocks if you format the disk from there?19:16
ravageno19:16
ravageuse your drives smart check for that19:16
ravagehttps://linuxways.net/ubuntu/how-to-install-smartctl-on-ubuntu-20-04/19:17
sarnoldor badblocks19:18
ravagemy hope was that smart would show you when its spare sectors are gone before you get actual bad blocks :)19:20
sarnold:D19:20
zteamravage, as I suspected, so no way to do this while formatting I assume then?19:21
ravageright19:21
ravagea format does not test all blocks19:21
webchat5Man, I'm starting to lose my mind. Now the tablet won't boot the iso in the flash drive.19:22
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Guest4191Hello FRIEND!19:23
zteamravage, well, in Windows there is actually an options for this, unless you do a quick format Windows does checks for badblocks then you format the drive19:23
webchat5I don't understand this anymore.19:24
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Guest856How to change the name?19:27
descent1 /nick nameyouwant19:28
Guest856?19:32
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webchat5I give up! I can't install Xubuntu nor Lubuntu on this machine, the flash drive won't boot.19:33
sarnoldwebchat5: heh, that reminds me of the time I kept shoving an sd card between the case and card reader on an rpi..19:34
sarnoldwebchat5: nothing seemed like it was working until I found my mistake19:34
webchat5I tried on my laptop, and it worked fine.19:34
descent1sometimes you should give dd an extra few minutes after it says its done19:35
descent1for some reason idk why19:35
webchat5I'll try that.19:35
jhutchinssync19:36
jhutchinsOr eject19:36
jhutchinsAlways checksum your downloaded image.19:36
webchat5But like I said, it works fine on my laptop.19:37
webchat5But it does not work on the tablet.19:37
jhutchinswebchat5: What makes you think the tablet allows booting from USB?19:37
webchat5Because it worked before.19:37
SpiderKDEI only trust sandisk and bought 2 flash drives of 32 GB.19:37
jhutchinswebchat5: So the question is what's different.19:38
webchat5Well, I don't know anymore.19:39
webchat5I've done this before.19:39
zteamwhat kind of tablet is that, pinetab I guess?19:39
webchat5It's a budget Windows tablet.19:40
descent1probably need 32bit linux19:40
webchat5This thing hasn't given me anything but trouble.19:40
webchat5That's why I choose Linux Lite, because it comes with both bootloaders.19:41
webchat5But now that Lite is installed I can't boot from the flash drive.19:41
zteamPretty sure Ubuntu too comes with a bootloader :D19:42
webchat5Yeah, but this thing has a 32 bit bootloader.19:43
zteamI see, well, 32 bit Ubuntu is no more19:47
sarnoldI believe 18.04 still has 32 bit x86 support19:48
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nikolahello20:24
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transhumanistis there a way to convert msdos disk to gpt in ubuntu without loosing data (even though I have made a duplicate of the disk?)22:59
Jeremy31transhumanist: I think there is, try a internet search23:04
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transhumanistBrilliant Jeremy31 , why didn't I think of that?23:10
WaVUpgraded to Ubuntu 22.04 Last week around this time. Noticed that every once in a while the network indicator icon disappears from the upper right corner. When I go into network settings, I find that my network adapter has been disabled. Looking at journalctl, it looks like Network Manager appears to be disabling it for whatever reason. Is there anyway to troubleshoot/stop this behavior?23:32
gneeriiloeepdeeri have 30 music tracks, flac. In each track sound only starts after 3 seconds of silence. How do I trim these 2 seconds for ALL files simultaneously?23:43
jhutchinsWaV: Specifics of your network hardware might help figure this out.  Anything you've done to the system beyond the basic installation might also.23:51
jhutchinsgneeriiloeepdeer: There are some ripping programs that will trim blank space from audio files (meant for finding and splitting tracks on an "album").23:52
jhutchinsgneeriiloeepdeer: It wouldn't be all simultaneously, more sequential.  I think that's the best you'll find.23:53
gneeriiloeepdeerjhutchins, no, I dont mean flacon or similar apps, the tracks are already split23:53
WaVjhutchins: No changes to the system other than installing all the packages I had with my previous installation of Ubuntu. Onboard Intel NIC I219-LM23:56
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