[00:14] <faekjarz> on 22.04 (i've just upgraded from 21.04, via 21.10), htop isn't showing the core temps (AMD on B550) - i already ran sensors-detect, rebootet, still nope. Any ideas?
[00:15] <timothias> I didnt know htop would show temps.
[00:15] <timothias> I knew glances would.
[00:18] <faekjarz> htop DID tell me core temps on 21.04 ;)
[00:18] <timothias> Not doubting you. Just didnt know it would do that.
[00:18] <timothias> Id always gone to glances for temps etc.
[00:18] <faekjarz> no worries ;)
[00:18] <timothias> Of course, Im running ubuntu on a PI
[00:18] <timothias> so temps arent that big of a concern
[00:19] <Bashing-om> faekjarz: I do ' sensors ' in terminal for temps and voltages.
[00:21] <faekjarz> Bashing-om: yeah, that was my idea as well - it doesn't show any core temps, nor voltages → i'll run sensors-detect again, and make sure i load the required modules manually
[00:25] <timothias> is it still that lmsensors package?
[00:25] <ravage> timothias, you have to enable it in the display options. at least on my intel CPU it works fine then
[00:25] <timothias> display options in htop?
[00:25] <ravage> yes
[00:25] <timothias> k
[00:25] <timothias> ima do that
[00:25] <ravage> F2 -> display options
[00:25]  * timothias flexes
[00:26] <faekjarz> LOL, sensors-detect put lots of dupes in my /etc/modules *cleans it up*
[00:27]  * faekjarz smirks at timothias
[00:27] <ravage> maybe faekjarz should check that option in there too :)
[00:29] <faekjarz> well, it's already active, via the pre-upgrade (21.04) config in my ~/ …but maybe i should turn it off, and back on again ;) (i've upgraded to 22.04)
[00:31] <ravage> im too lazy to boot 22.04 on the pi right now. i could check tomorrow if i see any readings
[00:33] <faekjarz> well, it didn't help - modprobe'd the mods (from sensors-detect) manually, then disabled "show temps" in htop, quit htop, restarted htop, enabled "show temps" → nope
[00:33] <ravage> does sensors show them?
[00:34] <faekjarz> nope, neither plain sensors, nor sudo sensors
[00:35] <oerheks> sensors-detect
[00:36] <ravage> i only have a debian 11 available on the pi 4
[00:36] <ravage> that does not detect anything with sensors-detect
[00:36] <ravage> "Sorry, no sensors were detected."
[00:36] <timothias> aint got the latest raspbian?
[00:36] <oerheks> as root, i think
[00:36] <faekjarz> oerheks: i'm currently double-checking(with lsmod) that all modules, that sensors-detect put in my /etc/modules are actually loaded
[00:37] <timothias> so is systemd loading modules? or does it just make udev do it?
[00:37] <timothias> < -- not great with computers.
[00:39] <faekjarz> hmm, all modules loaded, libsensors is installed - now, i'm double-checking which version of libsensors htop requires
[00:40] <Bashing-om> faekjarz: ' systemctl status lm-sensors.service ' ?
[00:40] <oerheks> i do not recall needed, but a logout/login could help.
[00:44] <faekjarz> Bashing-om: lm-sensors.service is enabled, loaded, "active (exited)" (i'll try that, oerheks)
[00:45] <faekjarz> btw, i'm running htop as sudo/root
[00:46] <ravage> faekjarz, https://p.haxxors.com/nl4zsjb0.txt this should work if you just want to know the CPU temp
[00:47] <timothias> dmesg saying anything after the sensors commands?
[00:47] <faekjarz> ravage: thank you, i'm sure those temps are stashed somewhere in sysfs - but i'm stubborn, and want them in htop xD LOL
[00:47] <sarnold> millidegrees??
[00:48] <ravage> > cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp
[00:48] <ravage> 46251
[00:51] <faekjarz> for the giggles, i'll install/try psensors
[00:52] <faekjarz> oh, there's no psensors package on 22.04 …maybe a snap?
[00:52] <faekjarz> nope
[00:56] <faekjarz> i'll try glances now
[00:57] <faekjarz> oof, 480MB and 59 new pkgs ;)
[00:58] <Bashing-om> good tech support == #ubuntu - hint hint :D
[00:58] <timothias> if installing glances works, i bet htop works afterward
[00:58] <timothias> glances also has a web interface
[00:58] <faekjarz> haha, that'd be funny xD
[00:58] <timothias> glances -w
[00:58] <Bashing-om> OOppps 6 wtong chabbel :(
[01:06] <faekjarz> are there any other sensor-packages, other than lm-sensors? (there might be something wrong with lm-sensors)
[01:08] <faekjarz> since "sensors" (lm-sensors) doesn't even show me core temps - i should file a bug against lm-sensors, rather than htop, right (maybe, it's a known issue, already) ← it'd be on launchpad, right?
[01:09] <sarnold> I think these days people tend to just use the files in /sys, etc cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone*/temp /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.*/hwmon/hwmon*/temp*_input /sys/devices/platform/opal-sensor/hwmon/hwmon0/temp*_input   or whatever
[01:11] <genii> faekjarz: You might also need hddtemp installed before it works in htop
[01:18] <xiao_> how to install PPA from trusty to jammy (ubuntu 22)?
[01:18] <xiao_> https://launchpad.net/~cal-sdb/+archive/ubuntu/smap
[01:19] <sarnold> xiao_: ask the author to configure the ppa to build for the new releases, and then upload new packages
[01:22] <xiao_> sarnold? Can I do it myself? (I actually tried to install with dpkg on Ubuntu jammy, with errors: python-twisted uninstallable)
[01:23] <sarnold> xiao_: sure, if the license allows it, you can download the sources, modify them as necessary (eg, python3-twisted instead), fix all the python2 -> python3 bugs, then submit the packages to build in your own ppa
[01:24] <faekjarz> how many CCDs does a Ryzen 7 5800X have, 1 or 2 - it's 8 cores per CCD, right? 32°C seems rather low, though → https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZKkVr6r6q5/ …are these the doids, i'm looking for?
[02:35] <nubesec> if anybody knows a step by step guide to run openvpn over stunnel plz pm me with the link
[02:36] <sarnold> doesn't openvpn already set up a tls link?
[02:40] <oerheks> nubesec, your vpn service provider gives you the details, no?
[02:41] <nubesec> no
[02:43] <oerheks> what is the use of a tunnel within a tunnel within a tunel?
[02:43] <oerheks> grinn
[02:43] <sarnold> figuring out just how horrible nested TCP delayed ACKs can be
[02:52] <BadAtom> oerheks: likely to mask the vpn as generic port 443 traffic to evade watchful government eyes and DPI firewalls
[02:57] <oerheks> His VPN provider should say if he supports this.
[03:01] <faekjarz> would "cryptsetup --benchmark" be a somewhat reasonable (and quick) method to increase my CPU core temp?
[03:02] <faekjarz> *it's without the hyphens
[03:02] <oerheks> yes, without OOM kicking in
[03:08] <faekjarz> i think i've cracked my HTOP issue - it seems to be a version issue. There's a 3.0.5 in the 22.04 deb repo, but  a 3.2.0 in the snap repo. htop 3.2.0 still doesn't give me temps for ALL the cores, but at least for ONE. And the cryptsetup benchmark drove it up to expected levels - ca. 56 - 64°C (fancy Noctua NH-D15 dual-tower cooler)
[03:57] <descent1> audacious is messed up on 22.04 it start getting choppy and unresponsive
[03:58] <descent1> i think it needs an update version in repos
[04:30] <oerheks> descent1, 3.1.3 as snap https://snapcraft.io/audacity
[04:30] <oerheks> compared with launchpad https://launchpad.net/audacity/+packages
[04:31] <oerheks> oops audacious, not audacity
[04:31] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/audacious/+packages
[04:33] <descent1> ok
[04:34] <descent1> thank you
[04:49] <arraybolt3> faekjarz: Keep in mind that just hitting 100% on your CPU won't drive it to its highest temps - some workloads hit the CPU harder than others. If you want to REALLY stress your system, throw Prime95 at it. It's available for Linux. https://www.mersenne.org/download/
[04:54] <faekjarz> arraybolt3: aye, i use Prime95 for long duration burn-ins - the cryptsetup benchmark produces less than a minute of load, but gets the temps up as well - it was sufficient for my purpose
[04:57] <arraybolt3> faekjarz: Ah, that makes sense. FWIW, you can use the Small FFTs option to hit the CPU as hard as possible and get the temps up ASAP for quick testing. But if what you've done works well for you, great. I might look into the cryptsetup benchmark myself. Thanks!
[05:19] <arraybolt3> Man, I don't know what happened, but I was running Prime95 on my system, everything seemed to be going great, and I was using my system for real work at the same time. I stopped Prime95, and all of the sudden I got hit with an avalanche of crash reports that didn't even makes sense ("Kdenlive has closed unexpectedly" - uh, kdenlive wasn't even on???). Tons and tons of crashes, when it didn't look like anything had even crashed - my system was still
[05:19] <arraybolt3> behaving itself normally, even with this sudden avalanche of errors. It finally stopped, and my system seems to be just fine, but does anyone know what happened and if there's any followup I should do? I'm on Ubuntu Studio 22.04 with the proprietary nVidia drivers.
[05:20] <arraybolt3> (I did have to restart Quassel IRC, it looked like it actually crashed, but... how on earth could stopping Prime95 do that? And how could my system throw an absolute fit like that but still be functioning properly?)
[05:21] <arraybolt3> (Also, I just checked KDE Partition Manager - all my disk partitions are still here, so I don't think a disk just died on me.)
[06:36] <summonner> jhutchins, actually the mouse is fine, it's just the left-click isn't working. I've installed piper, which gives me a newer libratbag... and the G602 (sorry I said G604 earlier) is seen and correctly determined, but it's just the left-click that's still not working
[06:36] <summonner> pairing I don't think would be an issue, as then it wouldn't track nor respond with right-click and middle click
[06:37] <summonner> https://github.com/libratbag/libratbag/issues/832#issuecomment-1073410529     is pretty much my issue, so just waiting on a fix I guess
[06:56] <nubesec> newb here. can i get help setting up a vps with OpenVPN + stunnel/obsfproxy?
[07:19] <Khepra> Hi. What is the difference between "access home" and "access personal data" permissions on (firefox) snaps?
[07:35] <ravage> Khepra, snap connections firefox
[07:36] <ravage> personal-files            firefox:dot-mozilla-firefox     :personal-files
[07:36] <Khepra> ravage: yes, and?
[07:36] <Khepra> what is the difference, then?
[07:37] <ravage> so this gives access to the .mozilla directory of the snap. as long as it also has access to home this seems redundant
[07:38] <Khepra> okay, but then I have another problem. If I disable both, I then can't install extensions or download anything. I just want to prevent FF from accessing my real ~/
[07:38] <ravage> but maybe ~/snap has special permissions. no idea :)
[07:38] <Khepra> so yeah I want it confined within ~/snap/firefox
[07:39] <ravage> then you would have to set your downloads directory to that path i guess
[07:39] <Khepra> hrm
[07:40] <ravage> but i think the apparmor profile already covers a lot of that
[07:41] <Khepra> it only covers hidden dirs/files but things like documents and other ~/ stuff is still accessible to it
[07:42] <ravage> i can only download to Downloads really
[07:42] <ravage> so the access to other files is limited
[07:46] <Khepra> ravage: well, I'm trying access with file:// URI scheme, as the file manager is desktop's and there's that integration that somehow connects the snap with any file in the system
[07:49] <ravage> i dont see the thread here really? who would modify the snap?
[07:50] <ravage> following a link to file:// from an external site does not work
[07:52] <ravage> *threat
[08:05] <Khepra> ravage: you do understand browsers load potentially crafted remote code, images, html, css, fonts, things? you don't have to modify a snap for it to be a threat to your system
[08:05] <ravage> yes but you dont want to disable that. or use a text browser
[08:11] <Khepra> ravage: actually I do want to disable access to $HOME
[08:12] <Khepra> therre is no need for going back to 1990s with text browsers. browsers can be confined and secured; but I'm just trying to see how much of that is possible with snaps, as opposted to unsnapped browser with custom AA profile
[08:13] <Guest72> Hello, Quick question. I have just build the server with ubuntu desktop and there is no keyboard or mouse. At 4AM openwrt router is rebooting and ubuntu NIC is down and stays down. I need to connect mouse and keyboard to enable network what can be the reason for not reconnecting?
[08:16] <Khepra> Guest72: who knows. You'll need logs and diagnostics.
[08:18] <Guest72> Khepra - thank you for your answer. How do I go about checking the log?
[08:19] <ahauser> hi, I'm currently using Ubuntu 20.04, but I have no update proposed when trying to use dist-upgrade or do-release-upgrade. Any ideas ?
[08:20] <ravage> ahauser, upgrades from 20.04 to 22.04 will be availablte when 22.04.1 is released. expected in august. if you want to upgrade now use "sudo do-release-upgrade -d"
[08:20] <Maik> !ltsupgrade | ahauser
[08:21] <ahauser> ravage, Maik thanks
[08:21] <Maik> you're welcome :)
[08:30] <Khepra> Guest72: you log into the system and you check the journal with journalctl.  I'd start by looking for errors with -e , or -k for kernel log entries which might indicate a failure outside of error severity. i'd check the NIC status and anything in the logs pertaining to the nic name
[08:32] <Guest72> I have found this but I don't know if this is any help ? journalctl -u NetworkManager May 24 04:31:17 nvidia-shield NetworkManager[1139]: <info>  [1653363077.2368] device (enp42s0): Activation: successful, device activated.
[08:32] <Guest72> May 24 04:31:21 nvidia-shield NetworkManager[1139]: <info>  [1653363081.9128] device (enp42s0): carrier: link connected
[08:32] <Guest72> May 24 04:31:31 nvidia-shield NetworkManager[1139]: <info>  [1653363091.3839] device (enp42s0): carrier: link connected
[08:32] <Guest72> May 24 04:31:38 nvidia-shield NetworkManager[1139]: <info>  [1653363098.4588] device (enp42s0): state change: activated -> unavailable (reason 'carrier-changed', sys-iface-state: 'external')
[08:32] <Guest72> May 24 04:31:45 nvidia-shield NetworkManager[1139]: <info>  [1653363105.2580] device (enp42s0): carrier: link connected
[08:32] <Guest72> May 24 04:31:45 nvidia-shield NetworkManager[1139]: <info>  [1653363105.2583] device (enp42s0): state change: unavailable -> disconnected (reason 'carrier-changed', sys-iface-state: 'external')
[08:32] <Khepra> Guest72: you must be new to IRC. When the bot unmutes you, use a pastebin.
[08:32] <Khepra> !pastebin
[08:37] <mncheck> is there an irc channel for snap application related problems?
[08:37] <Guest72> !pastebinit May 24 04:31:17 nvidia-shield NetworkManager[1139]: <info>  [1653363077.2368] device (enp42s0): Activation: successful, device activated.
[08:37] <Guest72> May 24 04:31:21 nvidia-shield NetworkManager[1139]: <info>  [1653363081.9128] device (enp42s0): carrier: link connected
[08:37] <Guest72> May 24 04:31:31 nvidia-shield NetworkManager[1139]: <info>  [1653363091.3839] device (enp42s0): carrier: link connected
[08:37] <Guest72> May 24 04:31:38 nvidia-shield NetworkManager[1139]: <info>  [1653363098.4588] device (enp42s0): state change: activated -> unavailable (reason 'carrier-changed', sys-iface-state: 'external')
[08:37] <Guest72> May 24 04:31:45 nvidia-shield NetworkManager[1139]: <info>  [1653363105.2580] device (enp42s0): carrier: link connected
[08:38] <Khepra> Guest72: seriously?
[08:38] <ravage> mncheck, #snappy
[08:39] <kazuha> hi
[08:40] <kazuha> umm I have an issue with my display
[08:40] <kazuha> and I'm not sure if it's my display or gnome
[08:40] <kazuha> it just shifts to the right and instantly snaps back sometimes
[08:40] <kazuha> like a flicker
[08:40] <kazuha> I've changed my nvidia driver to the proprietary one and it is still happening
[08:40] <kazuha> very weird issue
[08:41] <mncheck> ravage, thank you
[08:42] <ravage> kazuha, which ubuntu version? how is the display connected? wayland or xorg?
[08:44] <Guest25> Hi, what's the deal with ddebs.ubuntu.com?
[08:45] <ravage> Guest25, looks like a malfunctioning service
[08:45] <Guest25> Are there any public mirrors for it?
[08:45] <Guest72> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/cQpTqJpSRD/
[08:47] <ravage> Guest25, i dont think so
[08:49] <cbreak> so, I started an ubuntu live server image, and now it's "waiting for cloud init". Why?
[08:49] <ravage> Guest72, try a static IP and add  ignore-carrier=enp42s0 to your NetworkManager.conf
[08:49] <Khepra> Guest72: either your cable is faulty or the remote end is faulty, or there's another hardwre malfunction
[08:50] <Khepra> Guest72: another possiblity, though less likely, you're missing firwmare for your device; you can check if the kernel wants firmware files and doesn't find them, with   dmesg | grep -i firmware
[08:50] <ravage> cbreak, what image?
[08:51] <ravage> cbreak, also #ubuntu-server may be more helpful for this
[08:51] <cbreak> ubuntu-22.04-live-server-amd64.iso
[08:51] <cbreak> somehow my server doesn't boot anymore, so I'm trying to see why via booting from USB
[08:53] <ravage> it only hangs for about 3 seconds here at that stage
[08:55] <cbreak> been waiting for 2 mins already
[08:55] <Guest72> Khepra Thank you I will check with different cable (The connection is fine for whole day just during router restart it is not connecting again)
[08:56] <cbreak> now it switched to "Finished Download data for packages that failed at package install time."
[08:56] <Guest72> ravage I did already setup static IP but i Will modify the config
[08:56] <oerheks> guest25 that is the mirror for debug symbols
[08:56] <oerheks> !debug
[08:59] <cbreak> heh: https://postimg.cc/HjjzWpHc :)
[09:00] <ravage> please do :)
[10:19] <cbreak> so, this was weird. I booted into the live environment, reinstalled grub, no improvement. Still hanging with "alloc magic is broken at"
[10:19] <cbreak> tried it again, renaming the EFI directory on the efi partition, installing grub again... same result
[10:19] <cbreak> then I install refind, to get more convenient control over the boot process
[10:20] <cbreak> turns out it can boot the initrd directly... too bad that doesn't work since it doesn't know which rootfs to use
[10:20] <cbreak> but then I try the fallback boot loader
[10:20] <cbreak> ... which works...
[10:20] <blugreen> hi all,is there a way to make a driver persistent after an update ? coz this adapter is not plug n play,its the 3rd time im reinstalling it after an update
[10:23] <Jeremy31> blugreen: what driver?
[10:23] <blugreen> Jeremy31, rtl8188fu
[10:23] <Jeremy31> blugreen: from what source?
[10:24] <blugreen> Jeremy31, https://github.com/kelebek333/rtl8188fu
[10:25] <Jeremy31> blugreen: open the folder in terminal and do> make clean
[10:25] <guestavo_hombre> hello. Imagine I run fullupgrade -y and all runs smooth, but initramfs fails, because my boot is too small.... how can I initiate it manually ?
[10:27] <blugreen> Jeremy31, i already installed it,im just anticipating the next malfunction after an update
[10:27] <Jeremy31> blugreen: we need to have the source clean to add it with dkms
[10:28] <blugreen> Jeremy31, i see,im not code savy,what is the make clean for? & w/c specific folder do i need to open
[10:28] <Jeremy31> blugreen: try>  cd rtl8188fu && make clean && sudo dkms install rtl8188fu/1.0
[10:29] <Jeremy31> blugreen: try>  cd rtl8188fu && make clean && sudo dkms add .
[10:29] <Jeremy31> be sure to include the . in the command
[10:30] <Jeremy31> There are instructions on adding the PPA for the driver on that github page that installs the dkms
[10:30] <blugreen> Jeremy31, Module rtl8188fu/1.0 already installed on kernel 4.15.0-180-generic/x86_64
[10:30] <Jeremy31> Using Ubuntu 18.04?
[10:30] <blugreen> yes
[10:31] <Jeremy31> blugreen: see if it updates with>  git pull
[10:32] <blugreen> Jeremy31, last message on terminal is : Already up to date.
[10:36] <Jeremy31> blugreen: can you post a question at ubuntuforums.org as I have to head to work soon
[10:37] <blugreen> Jeremy31, tnx a lot
[10:38] <blugreen> installing the driver using ppa is persistent after an update ?
[10:39] <blugreen> & is it ok to install using ppa if it is already installed using github
[11:32] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:33] <Macer> anybody know what would cause a delay in the use of cached ad credentials when using the samba+pam_winbind method of joining the AD?
[11:50] <Theodoros> Hello dear Ubuntu users
[11:54] <arraybolt3> Theodoros: Hello! How can we help you today?
[13:18] <User_666> hello do old drivers for amd still work on newest Lubuntu?
[13:26] <biapy> Hi, i've setup wireguard using nmcli. It start at boot when the wifi connection is not up, and i'm without internet when the wifi comes up. I need to disable and reenable the wireguard connection for the vpn to work. Is there a way to make the wireguard connection depends on a working Internet with NetworkManager ?
[13:30] <Synthetic> привет
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> !ru | Synthetic
[13:31] <user__> hi
[13:35] <User_666> shit how to run int terminal installer with end .run?
[13:36] <biapy> User_666: chmod +x file.run   and then  ./file.run
[13:37] <User_666> thx
[13:37] <User_666> ok timne to crash lubuntu
[13:37] <User_666> uhhh
[13:37] <User_666> fuck i cant install drivers
[13:37] <leftyfb> User_666: mine you, we do not suggest and cannot support whatever application you are running
[13:37] <leftyfb> !language | User_666
[13:38] <User_666> yeach i need drivers but xserwer is to new ehh
[13:39] <gordonjcp> User_666: this sounds unlikely
[13:40] <User_666> last version is for ubuntu 14on official amd site, driver from run command give me this error,Detected X Server version 'XServer 1.21.1.3_64a' is not supported. Supported versions are X.Org 6.9 or later, up to XServer 1.10 (default:v2:x86_64:lib32:XServer 1.21.1.3_64a:none:5.15.0-33-generic:)
[13:40] <User_666> Installation will not proceed.
[13:41] <gordonjcp> User_666: for which card?
[13:41] <User_666> ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650
[13:41] <gordonjcp> ah
[13:41] <User_666> old acer aspire 7540 i just revive it
[13:42] <gordonjcp> that ought to be supported by amdgpu
[13:42] <gordonjcp> you won't be able to install the proprietary drivers, it's too old
[13:45] <leftyfb> User_666: what version of ubuntu?
[13:45] <User_666> latest but i use lubuntu just for lightweight
[13:46] <leftyfb> User_666: cat /etc/os-release | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:47] <User_666> https://termbin.com/8qhk
[13:48] <leftyfb> User_666: are you running wayland or xorg?
[13:48] <User_666> lxde
[13:49] <leftyfb> echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE
[13:50] <User_666> x11
[13:52] <User_666> hmm i found some fishy drivers i try them oibaf
[13:56] <biapy> User_666: do you really need proprietary drivers for amd gpu ? the amd driver are mainly opensource.
[13:57] <User_666> hmm i dont want make problems with this laptop like i have on asus with dual hd 5400 where when you scrol fast on site wih wideo you ged slide show
[14:04] <Az5> Hey, I've been trying for about 4 hours to get a remote desktop service installed on a Raspberry pi 4 running Ubuntu 22.02. I've tried a lot of things and run into various walls,  I'm getting furthest with xrdp, I can connect but I'm getting a display issue i.imgur.com/zTqUViq.png
[14:05] <Az5> Seems like a misconfiguration of display settings but I'm at a loss as  to how to troubleshoot. What's really odd is if the screen times out it gives me the correct (unscrambled) login window https://i.imgur.com/fuFuVEm.png
[14:06] <Az5> Any help would be massively appreciated. I thought getting vnc up on the PI would be the easy part of what I wanted to do with it :(
[14:19] <summonner> the default raspian desktop image has it built in
[14:20] <leftyfb> Az5: did you make sure you disable wayland and revert to xorg?
[14:21] <waveform> Az5, there is a known issue with remote desktop on arm64 at the moment, let me see if I can dig out the issue
[14:25] <raver> Az5: have you tried x11vnc?
[14:25] <raver> I once had nomachine running which were pretty stable too
[15:00] <theseb> Any issues with writing to Windows formatted USB thumb drive?  I vaguely remember while back having to reformat it as ext3 or some such otherwise it had issues with symlink/perms/??? I can't remember. sound familar to anyone?
[15:01] <leftyfb> theseb: no issues
[15:01] <ogra> well, vfat does indeed not support symlinks and files always have all perms ....
[15:02] <ogra> but for just transferring/storing files, that is fine
[15:06] <theseb> leftyfb: ogra: thanks
[15:15] <GSMarquis> Had this pc over a year. Today I see a switch ontop of case to turn off rainbow vomit leds. I can not belive I stared at those blinky lights for a year.
[15:27] <GSMarquis> The switch is slightly below the surface of the case, the other switches are not......thats my defense.
[15:31] <waveform> Az5, sorry -- got distracted by yet another meeting; here's the ticket I mentioned: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-remote-desktop/+bug/1970139
[15:43] <GSMarquis> 24-9
[15:45] <leftyfb> GSMarquis: can we help you with something?
[16:40] <GSMarquis> Sorry, I had my monitor switched to another PC and used wrong keyboard. Sorry.
[16:45] <rrr> at one
[17:37] <webchat5> Hi, is anyone here?
[17:38] <webchat5> I'm having a rather odd issue that I hoped that I could get assistance with.
[17:39] <beowuff> There are many people here. You don't need to ask to ask. Just ask. Note it can take sometime before someone might be able to help you.
[17:39] <webchat5> Oh, hi there wuff.
[17:39] <webchat5> Ya still around.
[17:39] <webchat5> Well, this time it's an odd phenomenon.
[17:39] <arraybolt3> I'm here.
[17:40] <webchat5> Basically I found an old Windows 8 tablet that I decided to ressurect. And I managed to pull it off.
[17:40] <webchat5> The problem is with the mouse axis.
[17:40] <webchat5> It's.... inverted.
[17:40] <arraybolt3> ?!
[17:40] <beowuff> All directions, or just one?
[17:40] <webchat5> Basically, right goes left, left goes right, top goes bottom, and bottom goes top.
[17:40] <leftyfb> webchat5: what OS are you running on it?
[17:41] <webchat5> I learned that it could be set by changing the transformation matrix.
[17:41] <webchat5> And, it worked. The touchpad now points correctly.
[17:41] <webchat5> But... touching is still inverted.
[17:42] <webchat5> If I place the pointer on the top-left, it'll click on the bottom-right.
[17:42] <webchat5> Perhaps a drawing would help?
[17:42] <leftyfb> webchat5: what OS are you running on it?
[17:42] <webchat5> Oh, it's affected in both Xubuntu and Linux Lite.
[17:42] <arraybolt3> The solution will probably depend on whether you're on Xorg or Wayland.
[17:43] <webchat5> I installed Linux Lite, and as expected, still is affected.
[17:43] <webchat5> And the odd thing, after a while, the mouse will invert again.
[17:44] <arraybolt3> What version of Xubuntu were you using? 20.04? 22.04?
[17:44] <webchat5> It was the latest LTS version.
[17:44] <leftyfb> webchat5: if you want support here, you'll need to put ubuntu back on the tablet. Not linux lite
[17:44] <webchat5> But... that's the thing. I don't think it is related to both distros.
[17:45] <webchat5> And isn't Lite a ubuntu derivative?
[17:45] <arraybolt3> Yeah, but if it happens on Xubuntu, may as well answer it, since it's an Ubuntu problem, too.
[17:45] <leftyfb> webchat5: we do not support ubuntu derivatives
[17:45] <arraybolt3> (Ubuntu derivatives and flavours are different. Flavours (Xubuntu, Lubuntu, etc) are supported, derivatives (Linux Mint, Linux Lite, etc) are not.)
[17:45] <webchat5> I see. Is there any other place that would be better suited?
[17:46] <leftyfb> webchat5: put ubuntu back on the tablet and them come back. I'd suggest 22.04
[17:46] <webchat5> Can it be Xubuntu?
[17:46] <leftyfb> yes
[17:46] <arraybolt3> Yep.
[17:46] <webchat5> Alright, be back soon.
[17:46] <arraybolt3> For once you've got Xubuntu back on the tablet, this answer might work for you: https://askubuntu.com/questions/920051/how-to-rotate-touch-screen-input-on-ubuntu-16-04
[17:47] <webchat5> Uh, does Xubuntu 64 bit version have both bootloaders?
[17:48] <leftyfb> both bootloaders?
[17:48] <webchat5> This thing only supports a 32 bit bootloader.
[17:49] <leftyfb> Ubuntu 18.04 is the last release to support 32bit
[17:49] <webchat5> Well, the CPU supports the 64 bit architecture.
[17:49] <webchat5> But... the bootloader is 32 bit.
[17:50] <leftyfb> good luck with that
[17:50] <webchat5> That's why I did install Linux Lite, because it came with both bootloaders.
[17:50] <leftyfb> so you never installed xubuntu then
[17:50] <webchat5> I did... the 32 bit version.
[17:53] <webchat5> It's weird, I know. And I double checked. Apparently it's rather common in these Windows tablets.
[18:00] <beowuff> Can you use a different boot loader, like rEFind?
[18:00] <webchat5> Doesn't it come in the ISO by default?
[18:00] <leftyfb> beowuff: you can though it's not something we can support here
[18:03] <webchat5> would lubuntu suffice as well?
[18:03] <webchat5> I can no longer find a recent 32 bit version for xubuntu.
[18:03] <leftyfb> webchat5: 18.04 is the last version that supported 32bit
[18:04] <leftyfb> !flavor | webchat5
[18:12] <arraybolt3> Well, look, you've got Xubuntu on it, and 18.04 is still supported. Let's just roll with it and try to fix the touchscreen problem, and then webchat5 can take that info and use it wherever they want.
[18:13] <leftyfb> arraybolt3: they do not currently have xubuntu on it
[18:13] <arraybolt3> They just said they installed the 32-bit version.
 so you never installed xubuntu then
 I did... the 32 bit version.
[18:14] <leftyfb> arraybolt3: they did at one point, not now
[18:14] <leftyfb> 2022 May 25 14:03:41 <webchat5>	I can no longer find a recent 32 bit version for xubuntu.
[18:14] <arraybolt3> I didn't see anything indicating that they switched distros from the time they said that. And he said, "Alright, be back soon". I thought he did.
[18:15] <arraybolt3> webchat5: Are you currently running Xubuntu 18.04 on the tablet at the moment?
[18:15] <webchat5> I did switch to Linux Lite. I am downloading Lubuntu as we speak.
[18:15] <arraybolt3> Lubuntu 18.04?
[18:15] <webchat5> 18.04 alternate.
[18:15] <leftyfb> they also previously said they had the latest LTS installed, which isn't possible.
[18:16] <webchat5> Well, the latest 32 bit LTS back then.
[18:17] <arraybolt3> leftyfb: Since this is a problem that happens in a supported Ubuntu release, and webchat5 is downloading a supported Ubuntu flavour, can we just focus on fixing the issue?
[18:18] <leftyfb> once the supported OS is installed on it, sure
[18:18] <webchat5> Alright, but the issue will still be the same.
[18:19] <leftyfb> webchat5: sure, but we cannot troubleshoot with another OS on it
[18:19] <arraybolt3> Since the supported OS has the exact same problem, and they know this from experience, and there's no other pressing matters at hand, let's dig up solutions in the mean time. May as well get the work out of the way now, right? (And obviously, our advice will apply to the supported OS, not Linux Lite.)
[18:19] <webchat5> Of course.
[18:20] <leftyfb> webchat5: let us know when you get Ubuntu installed
[18:20] <webchat5> Changing the transformation matrix fixes the direction temporarily, but it does not seem to store it.
[18:20] <webchat5> And the mouse pointer location still remains inverted.
[18:22] <arraybolt3> Once Lubuntu 18.04 is installed, try these instructions and see if they work: https://askubuntu.com/questions/920051/how-to-rotate-touch-screen-input-on-ubuntu-16-04
[18:40] <blei> does anyone know a command line voice modulator
[18:41] <blei> with options. lots of options.
[18:46] <jhutchins> blei: Text-to-speech?  Festival is the industry reference, but it's not quick & easy.
[18:46] <blei> a voice modulator but not tts
[18:49] <descent1> pulseeffects? you can change the pitch and other effects
[18:54] <blei> ^ thanks
[19:16] <zteam> Hi all, quick question does Disk utility chech for badblocks if you format the disk from there?
[19:16] <ravage> no
[19:16] <ravage> use your drives smart check for that
[19:17] <ravage> https://linuxways.net/ubuntu/how-to-install-smartctl-on-ubuntu-20-04/
[19:18] <sarnold> or badblocks
[19:20] <ravage> my hope was that smart would show you when its spare sectors are gone before you get actual bad blocks :)
[19:20] <sarnold> :D
[19:21] <zteam> ravage, as I suspected, so no way to do this while formatting I assume then?
[19:21] <ravage> right
[19:21] <ravage> a format does not test all blocks
[19:22] <webchat5> Man, I'm starting to lose my mind. Now the tablet won't boot the iso in the flash drive.
[19:23] <Guest4191> Hello FRIEND!
[19:23] <zteam> ravage, well, in Windows there is actually an options for this, unless you do a quick format Windows does checks for badblocks then you format the drive
[19:24] <webchat5> I don't understand this anymore.
[19:27] <Guest856> How to change the name?
[19:28] <descent1>  /nick nameyouwant
[19:32] <Guest856> ?
[19:33] <webchat5> I give up! I can't install Xubuntu nor Lubuntu on this machine, the flash drive won't boot.
[19:34] <sarnold> webchat5: heh, that reminds me of the time I kept shoving an sd card between the case and card reader on an rpi..
[19:34] <sarnold> webchat5: nothing seemed like it was working until I found my mistake
[19:34] <webchat5> I tried on my laptop, and it worked fine.
[19:35] <descent1> sometimes you should give dd an extra few minutes after it says its done
[19:35] <descent1> for some reason idk why
[19:35] <webchat5> I'll try that.
[19:36] <jhutchins> sync
[19:36] <jhutchins> Or eject
[19:36] <jhutchins> Always checksum your downloaded image.
[19:37] <webchat5> But like I said, it works fine on my laptop.
[19:37] <webchat5> But it does not work on the tablet.
[19:37] <jhutchins> webchat5: What makes you think the tablet allows booting from USB?
[19:37] <webchat5> Because it worked before.
[19:37] <SpiderKDE> I only trust sandisk and bought 2 flash drives of 32 GB.
[19:38] <jhutchins> webchat5: So the question is what's different.
[19:39] <webchat5> Well, I don't know anymore.
[19:39] <webchat5> I've done this before.
[19:39] <zteam> what kind of tablet is that, pinetab I guess?
[19:40] <webchat5> It's a budget Windows tablet.
[19:40] <descent1> probably need 32bit linux
[19:40] <webchat5> This thing hasn't given me anything but trouble.
[19:41] <webchat5> That's why I choose Linux Lite, because it comes with both bootloaders.
[19:41] <webchat5> But now that Lite is installed I can't boot from the flash drive.
[19:42] <zteam> Pretty sure Ubuntu too comes with a bootloader :D
[19:43] <webchat5> Yeah, but this thing has a 32 bit bootloader.
[19:47] <zteam> I see, well, 32 bit Ubuntu is no more
[19:48] <sarnold> I believe 18.04 still has 32 bit x86 support
[20:24] <nikola> hello
[20:24] <nikola> whatsupp
[22:59] <transhumanist> is there a way to convert msdos disk to gpt in ubuntu without loosing data (even though I have made a duplicate of the disk?)
[23:04] <Jeremy31> transhumanist: I think there is, try a internet search
[23:10] <transhumanist> Brilliant Jeremy31 , why didn't I think of that?
[23:32] <WaV> Upgraded to Ubuntu 22.04 Last week around this time. Noticed that every once in a while the network indicator icon disappears from the upper right corner. When I go into network settings, I find that my network adapter has been disabled. Looking at journalctl, it looks like Network Manager appears to be disabling it for whatever reason. Is there anyway to troubleshoot/stop this behavior?
[23:43] <gneeriiloeepdeer> i have 30 music tracks, flac. In each track sound only starts after 3 seconds of silence. How do I trim these 2 seconds for ALL files simultaneously?
[23:51] <jhutchins> WaV: Specifics of your network hardware might help figure this out.  Anything you've done to the system beyond the basic installation might also.
[23:52] <jhutchins> gneeriiloeepdeer: There are some ripping programs that will trim blank space from audio files (meant for finding and splitting tracks on an "album").
[23:53] <jhutchins> gneeriiloeepdeer: It wouldn't be all simultaneously, more sequential.  I think that's the best you'll find.
[23:53] <gneeriiloeepdeer> jhutchins, no, I dont mean flacon or similar apps, the tracks are already split
[23:56] <WaV> jhutchins: No changes to the system other than installing all the packages I had with my previous installation of Ubuntu. Onboard Intel NIC I219-LM
[23:57] <paulo_> oi