=== Gambino is now known as POLO === hexenbane985 is now known as hexenbane98 [01:13] hi, i just ran `sudo apt-get update` and `apt-get upgrade` with no errors, rebooted and now my usb logitech m525 mouse will point but not click. can anyone help? [01:14] slimjimflim, tried another mouse?? [01:14] CanadianFool: i don't have one handy [01:14] i did replace the batteries [01:15] it kinda sometimes works. yea it could be a hardware issue but it's weird that this just started happening after i ran the upgrade [01:16] the right click works better than the left [01:16] also i always run this one command to disable the touchpad when i start up...i'm on a laptop... [01:18] Is there a supported way to upgrade from 20.04 to 22.04? Oddly, do-release-upgrade and the like is saying there's no newer LTS version [01:19] lts -> lts upgrades aren't enabled until the .1 release [01:19] if you want to jump now, you can run do-release-upgrade -d [01:19] with 22.04.1 it will be enabled [01:19] as usual [01:19] Ah, thank you [01:24] hello [01:25] hi [01:25] hi [01:25] where are you from [01:26] sry had to reboot. idk if anyone responded to my keyboard/mouse issue in the last 5 min or so [01:26] what issue [01:26] it's kinda working now [01:26] ok it fine [01:26] khushiram: the left mouse button wasn't clicking and now my keyboard's being werid too. i'm using xmonad [01:26] where are you live [01:27] hello polo [01:27] why does it matter where i live? [01:27] slimjimflim, on what ubuntu version / kernel? [01:27] oerheks: one sec... [01:27] no matter but i ask you [01:27] goddamn indians. every time [01:28] !ot [01:28] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [01:28] yes i am indian [01:28] oerheks: i forgot the command to get the ubuntu version/kernel [01:29] oh 20.04.4 [01:29] `cat /etc/issue` ftr [01:30] the mouse might be working now but it's been on and off for the last 5-15 minutes [01:31] idk if there's an error log to check or something to look for in it [01:31] slimjimflim , i am new user of linux . i don't know about linux . please help [01:31] no [01:31] why [01:31] come back when you have a specific question [01:31] yes [01:31] khushiram: you may find this useful https://wiki.debian.org/GettingHelpOnIrc [01:31] journalctl | grep logitech [01:32] anyway normal people, i'm gonna carry on and see if i can make it break again. it's mostly working now i think [01:32] oerheks: ohok [01:34] oerheks: that command is taking way longer to complete than expected [01:34] still waiting [01:35] maybe if i use `less` and `/` to search for 'logitech'...... [01:35] Before,i was window user. when i switch to linux.than i face a problem [01:35] my lapop speaker not working. what i do? [01:36] slimjimflim: it's probably searching through a few gigabytes of logs.. starting over with less might not go much faster [01:36] khushiram: most problems like that can be solved by running pavucontrol and clicking around a bit [01:36] oerheks: https://pastebin.com/tWpYHyuX [01:36] sarnold: ^ [01:38] my mouse seems to be working now. i'm guessing it was some kind of hardware issue or if it was software it fixed itself...testing more things. brb [01:38] https://termbin.com/mqrao .. it seems to connect *very* often.. unless all those are reboots or something? heh [01:38] we do have a nice wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure [01:41] yea. my mouse is working fine for now. thanks for your help guys. i'll come back if i have further issues with it. :D [01:42] ...even though the actual issue is unknown and none of us actually changed anything on my system lolol [01:42] good luck, I hope it was just a temporary tantrum of some sort [01:42] I don't like not knowing what causes problems :( [01:42] yea probably [01:42] well if it happens again i'll just light my mouse on fire with some gasoline [01:44] solid plan :) === Polo is now known as money [01:48] I have chrome installed as default broser and in also update alternatives [01:48] but when I click links in Gtk apps, like discord or smoething, it opens in firefox. [01:48] Why is that? and how can I change to chrome [01:49] Hash, tried settings >> default apps ? [01:49] I use Xmonad over ubuntu, not any gui stuff [01:50] I do have KDE systemsettings5 [01:50] I see firefox is etup in there [01:50] good hint bro [01:50] lets see [01:51] Hash: is it gtk apps or is it snap apps? I think those don't handle it well. there's a bunch of tips on https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/default-browser-not-used-from-within-snap/4347/28 that look like they help people, but I don't know which ones to suggest to you to try [01:55] that worked. [01:55] I use Kubuntu but only for KDE apps [01:55] QT apps, and not for gui. I use Xmonad then === keypushe- is now known as keypusher === Polo is now known as money [02:33] slimjimflim: Gunpowder's nice. Smells better. [02:34] harveypwca: there's an x-browser or something variable you have to set, it's separate from xdg and the environment variables. [02:34] harveypwca: Sorry, vanishing querent. [02:44] hi guys! i v install touch egg for my touchpad, and now i would like to configure it to move through virtual screens [02:45] I can do this by registering a shortcut for each touch movement, I am on kde question, how do I configure the shortcuts to move on the screens? [02:45] thanks to who will answer me [02:48] kubuntu: the #kubuntu channel may be better, there's probably more kde users in there [02:52] Thanks for the reply. I also wrote about #kubuntu but unfortunately no one answers. I'll take some patience, I was hoping that the configuration of the shortcuts was similar on more or less all the distros based on ubuntu. As you will have understood, I am a noob...discovering the magnificent open source world [02:52] oh :( [02:52] XD [02:53] it's late friday in the americas, the middle of the night in europe.. [02:53] it's pretty quiet everywhere [02:56] I just upgraded to 22.04. I have nvidia graphics. Is it expected that I have no option to use Wayland on the login screen? [02:57] i know and u'r right but you are awake like me sarnold :-P [02:57] kubuntu: *nod* I'm hoping to finish work soon, though :) [02:57] you just don't know how I could do it? [02:57] Some_Person: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1968929 [02:57] Launchpad bug 1968929 in OEM Priority Project "Missing Wayland login option on NVIDIA systems" [Critical, New] [02:58] kubuntu: sorry, I don't know anything about configuring gestures [02:58] kubuntu: I go the other direction, I use i3wm and the firefox 'tridactyl' plugin, so I can try to use the mouse less ;) [02:58] sarnold: Hmm... that bug's labeled "Fix Release"? [03:00] ok thanks [03:00] Some_Person: maybe it's a phased update? try running sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade from the command line. I hope that bypasses phasing. [03:01] Might need full-upgrade [03:02] All packages are up to date. [03:02] Some_Person: the only thing that i know about nvidia driver is that i have an rtx 3080 and im using nouveau cause with nvidia after waking up from hibernation all my tre monitor they go to be freez I go the other direction, I use i3wm and the firefox 'tridactyl' plugin, so I can try to use the mouse less ;)e [03:02] nouveau in 20.04 didn't work with my monitor's full resolution, so I had to use nvidia [03:03] It works with that [03:06] I've also just noticed... half of my screen doesn't look right in some cases. Like, the desktop background isn't right [03:12] https://i.imgur.com/sq6ql9g.jpg [03:12] This isn't right [03:12] (and it doesn't show up in screenshots) [03:13] It's like there's a seam down the middle of my screen, and it's not the screen because it's fine in Windows [03:14] oh weird [03:15] I've burned in similar stuff in my monitor, since I usually have firefox on the right side, irssi on the left side.. [03:15] it wasn't like that in 20.04 [03:15] what happens with a full screen application? [03:15] can you give an example of what I should run? [03:16] firefox or chrome [03:16] full screen it, load something boring and plain like google.com or bing.com and see what happens there [03:17] sarnold: It still shows up in Chrome in full screen [03:17] cool [03:18] Some_Person: I think filing a bug report against gnome-shell would be a reasonable starting point; I don't actually have confidence that that's the right package, but the people who follow that package's bugs will have a good idea where it should go, and apport will collect some graphics-useful stuff === DArqueBish0p is now known as DArqueBishop [03:27] sarnold: I've done a bit of experimenting. If I set the resolution to 3840x2160 or lower, the problem goes away. I only have the problem at 5120x2880 [03:28] Some_Person: oh *interesting*. I wonder if that means it could be fixed with a more capable cable or monitor or video card.. [03:29] sarnold: I didn't have this problem in 20.04, and still don't in Windows, so I don't think this is a hardware issue. [03:29] Some_Person: oh right! [03:29] The monitor is connected via Thunderbolt [03:29] man it's the most friday of fridays, hehe [03:40] sarnold: I managed to get it to go away. In Settings -> Color, I disabled the color profile from my monitor. Logged out and logged back in, and it looks normal now [03:47] Some_Person: oh sweet! [03:47] Some_Person: thanks for reporting back :D [03:47] sarnold: There's some other oddness too. If I enable Night Light, it only affects the right half of my screen [03:48] Some_Person: probably the same cause.. quite a lot of the very big monitors are done as two monitors side-by-side .. it might be that the applications think they're running on just one screen [03:50] sarnold: Thinking about it, that actually makes sense. My setup is a bit weird. I have a TB cable going from the monitor to a TB card, and then there are 2 DP connections between the TB card and the GPU [03:50] Some_Person: oooooooo [03:50] neat :) [03:51] If I disconnect one of the DP cables, it's limited to 3840x2160 [03:51] Some_Person: I'm afraid I haven't got a clue what to suggest to do about it [03:52] Ubuntu correctly recognizes it as one monitor, but I guess some bits don't? [03:53] yeah; I thikn it's still worth a bug report :) I don't know what would be done, but when it used to work before... [03:53] it's time for me to head out, have a good weekend Some_Person :) [03:53] you too! === bsmith093 is now known as Guest8072 === Polo is now known as Guest8992 [04:04] I'm still not sure why I don't have the option for Wayland [04:04] I do have gdm3 42.0-1ubuntu7 [04:06] as there are no open drivers for nvidia, they are just released for a small number of cards, and wil not appear in this LTS. [04:06] huh? what? [04:07] there is a egl-wayland package... but i don;t know why or what about it https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/egl-wayland [04:08] Some_Person: Nvidia directed we pull their proprietary driver on Wayland. See too: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-R515-Wayland-State . === vx_wan is now known as vx_numberone [04:14] I figured it out. Had to switch to the newest Nvidia driver in "Additional Drivers". Now I have the option for Wayland === Guest8072 is now known as nerd123 [04:15] Under Wayland though, it looks like my display is incorrectly recognized as 2 separate displays. So I'm probably better off with X11 unless there's a way to fix it [04:19] nickserv saya i have too many accounts, i havent used this in atleast a year. how do i clear out the old accounts? [04:20] !libera | nerd123 [04:20] nerd123: Libera is the IRC network that you're on! See https://libera.chat/about - Libera has policies that govern how people should use the network which can be read at https://libera.chat/policies - The Ubuntu channels on Libera also have their own !Guidelines [04:21] hmm maybe someone should add #libera to that [04:21] !register | nerd123 [04:21] nerd123: For information on registering your IRC nick, see https://libera.chat/guides/registration - For any further help, ask in #libera [04:21] Well that's not useful for him, at all... [04:21] nerd123: Try to find in your email old registrations and see if you know the password? === nerd123 is now known as nobodyParticle [04:24] If/when you get it, try /ns listownmail and use group instead of register? [04:26] Unit193: nickserv issues dont belong in #libera ? [04:27] lotuspsychje: He said "I can't register, it comes back with an error" and the factoid is "Try registering". So not specifically helpful here, no. :) [04:27] my pc takes 2 minutes to startup. it says it will take 1m30s coz start job is running. [04:28] "We can't really help you on that too much, but #libera is a great place to find help with registrations" would suffice, sure. [04:28] dirtcastle: Which job? systemd-analyze has a nice blame feature if you haven't already seen it. === bsmith093 is now known as nobodyParticle === nobodyParticle is now known as bsmith0931 [04:39] I've also just noticed Cheese only shows a black screen. Oddly, it works if I open it with sudo. [04:39] Other applications seem to be able to access my camera without issue [04:42] i cant seem to get my screen to stop going black every 30seconds of iactivity [04:42] just clean installed ubuntu 22.04 === Polo is now known as Guest3852 === hackerman3 is now known as hackerman === Polo is now known as money [06:03] Unit193: what is that ? what does it do [06:06] systemd-analyze, easy to find > systemd-analyze blame [06:06] systemd-analyze plot > something.svg [06:14] Hi === Polo is now known as Guest4393 [06:53] Hello [06:53] hello [06:53] welcome jyan [06:53] Can I ask something? [06:54] of course [06:54] I am currently using Ubuntu 18.04 and I am upgrading to Ubuntu 20.04 [06:54] The only problem is im using the Unity Desktop [06:54] Its not gonna mess anything up right? [06:55] I'm trying my best but I don't know what unity desktop is. [06:55] I'm better with ffmpeg... [06:55] Wha-- [06:55] lol [06:55] We hope not, jyan [06:55] i'm windows user trying to ... merge to linux.. [06:55] Unity is the default Ubuntu desktop from 2011 to 2017 [06:55] ohh [06:55] like xfce for lubuntu? [06:56] https://launchpad.net/unity [06:56] And in 2018 to 2022 Ubuntu started using Gnome Desktop [06:56] I'll read about that [06:56] it is still available, just no longer standard. [06:56] Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Kubuntu, etc.. those are the Ubuntu Flavours [06:56] I think that if you update your os, it will keep using the same desktop environment... [06:57] but someone else might confirm... [06:57] upgrade to 20.04 wont keep unity i think [06:57] Ok then [06:57] hmmm. it's perhaps time to test the crap in virtualbox [06:57] unless you were installing unity-desktop package yourself on 18.04? [06:58] jyan, u know how to do that [06:58] Yes [06:58] I ran 'sudo apt install ubuntu-unity-desktop' [06:58] and removed gnome-shell [06:58] lotuspsychje, why not? [06:58] jyan: upgrades will respect your installed packages, unless the target upgrade wants the package out [06:58] jyan, install in vbox your previous os with unity, take a snapshot and from there mess around... [06:58] Ohh [06:59] Im not in vbox... [06:59] Im dualbooting [06:59] as long there is no PPA used .. [06:59] yeah if you installed yourself it will remain indeed [06:59] Ok then [06:59] oerheks: but lets say it was a unity remaining from xenial? [06:59] jyan vbox is a must... lol for testing purposes only if u want... [06:59] meh vbox is slow, better use KVM virt manager [07:00] I quickly pop an iso in there and I know what i'm dealing with [07:00] kvm is already in the kernel [07:00] oerheks, you're right i'm just not familiar with it. i'm from windows... [07:00] and microsoft have as well its own virtual pc thing and I just dropped it for vbox.. [07:03] Well the software updater finished downloading [07:03] Its now installing [07:03] And im gonna reboot [07:03] Bye for now [07:42] tomreyn, are you still there? The ubuntu install failed ... [07:42] Multbrelch: best to re-ask your issie into the channel, so other volunteers can pickup from where tomreyn left [07:42] *issue [07:42] k === MinusSeven is now known as Striker === Striker is now known as MinusSeven [08:10] In a bit of trouble. I wonder if anyone can help. [08:10] I can try [08:11] I accidently did apt-get upgrade, was 18.04 is now saying Welcome to 20. Won't sign-on. [08:12] I can get to the Alt-F1 login and password, so I'm at a prompt now. [08:12] Oops Alt-F2 gets me to a command-line. Alt-F1 is stalled .. [08:12] I'm not 100% sure, but can you login as root? [08:13] Maybe not. I used sudo extensively. Not su .. But I can try a sudo command [08:14] Yes, sudo commands work [08:16] So what is the problem, you can't login to desktop environment? [08:16] maybe wait for someone else to help, but I'm thinking if you can set your password again, it might fix it [08:16] So at power-up, the Ubuntu 20 signs on muchly, mostly. Last lines are Started Session c1 of user gdm. Started User Manager for UID 121. Started Update UTMP about system runlevel Chenges .. pleted.. startup.ures .. [08:17] Yes, freezes when trying to log in to desktop environment. Freezes at lines above. [08:18] I could try typing Gnome or something. Not really sure. [08:20] Last lines of the sign-on are sure weird. ...pleted startup.ures.... and stops there [08:21] I'm not sure how to help with that one, sorry [08:21] Yes. I should have made a rescue USB. Maybe if I boot from a Ubuntu 20 USB, I can .. repair or something. [08:21] isn't there control alt F4 ? [08:22] Yes, asks for Login etc. I'll try that. [08:22] Is your Grub visible at startup? [08:22] Run system in multi-user mode [08:22] by editing grub line started with linux [08:22] systemd.unit=multi-user.mode [08:23] Log in as user [08:23] sudo su - [08:23] perform full upgrade [08:23] apt-get update [08:23] apt-get dist-upgrade [08:23] Is this laptop or PC? [08:23] nvidia? [08:23] what about graphic drivers? [08:23] Its a desktop. 64bit AMD [08:24] I don't know about Grub too much. [08:24] Well [08:24] that upgrade took a little long lol [08:25] When I (wrongly) did apt-get upgrade, it took half an hour loading packages then installing. I waited. [08:25] Mine took an hour and half upgrading from Ubuntu 18.04 to Ubuntu 20.04 [08:25] lol [08:25] And im gonna missn the old Unity Desktop [08:26] Was it Unity with 18.04? Maybe that's what I'm missing. [08:26] Yea-- [08:27] ahc: BTW what Desktop Environment are you using? [08:27] Welcome to Ubuntu 22.04 LTS .. x86_64, is what its saying at the Alt-F4 login [08:27] Oh [08:27] Not sure what it was on my old 18.04, sorry [08:27] So your are using the April 2022 Version [08:27] Not KDE. So Gnome I guess. [08:27] Nice but [08:28] I think I will upgrade mine to 22.04 later [08:28] lol I dont want to spend another hour updating [08:28] i have 22.04, but that was a fresh install [08:29] So, that's an option. sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [08:29] lets keep it ontopic guys aka support related questions [08:29] and hope for the best [08:29] #ubuntu-offtopic & #ubuntu-discuss for chitchat [08:29] Ok [08:30] I have the old 18.04 install USB. I'm a little hesitant about booting from that. [08:30] Nah [08:30] it should be fine [08:30] since its a Live USB [08:31] You can use 18.04 if you boot into that USB [08:31] BTW Lets chat somewhere else [08:31] But what then? A dist upgrade to 22.04 seems wrong. A 22.04 install seems wrong. [08:32] 18.04 will only be supported for another year [08:32] or to be payed continued with !esm [08:32] ThinkT510 Yea thats why I upgraded to 20.04 [08:32] Since some apps are outdated [08:32] So to sum up, I've "upgraded" to 22.04, but the desktop environment stalls doesn't come up. [08:33] wdym? [08:33] The default Desktop Environment on 22.04 is GNOME 42 [08:33] OK. Gnome 42 doesn't sign on for me. [08:34] Did you install another Desktop Environment? [08:34] No. [08:35] So you cant enter Gnome 42? [08:35] Try to enter TTY and reinstall it with 'sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop gnome-shell' [08:36] That's an idea [08:37] Doesn't really explain why it freezes after booting, after all the sign-ons logs or whatever [08:38] What's the difference between Alt-F4 and Alt-F1 when logging in? I don't know. [08:39] Alt+F4 is for closing stuff [08:39] tty1 -tty6 reserverd for text, many years ago [08:39] Exited out of Alt-F4, so am at a prompt at Alt-F2 now [08:39] graphical tty7 [08:39] Try Ctrl+Alt+F1 to enter TTY [08:39] !tty [08:39] To get to the TTY terminals 3-6, use the keystroke Ctrl + Alt + F3-F6 respectively. Ctrl-Alt-F2 or Ctrl-Alt-F1 will get you back to your graphical login (Ctrl-Alt-F7 on 16.04). To change TTY resolution, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution [08:40] tty 1 - tty6 differs nothing [08:40] the same [08:40] lightdm starts as I remember on tty1 [08:40] but in Ubuntu may be other [08:40] Looking at the Alt-F1 sign-on, it seems it was starting Gnome there just before it froze [08:40] you have GDM [08:40] yes GDM [08:41] Do you have separate partition, mounted on /home [08:41] ? [08:41] I don't thinks so. few partitions. Only the one HDD [08:42] Are you dualbooting or is it just Ubuntu installed? [08:42] Perhaps I could try gdm at the alt-F4 prompt, although I doubt it'd pick up my user profile [08:42] Just ubuntu installed [08:43] One option, might be to boot on a 20.04 USB, then, .. well I don't know what then. [08:44] Try booting into a Live 22.04 USB and Reinstall from there [08:45] also you can back up your files by connecting another USB and using the Live Environment to copy them to that USB [08:45] Sorry if I made it complicated [08:45] Yes, that's all I can think of. [08:45] but I hope you get my idea [08:45] Well then go ahead [08:45] copy all personal data, /home/USERNAME/ [08:45] There are documents, images, etc [08:46] firefox profile, thunderbird, other [08:46] etc. [08:46] yeah, all those dot folders with the setups. Cripes. [08:46] Yep [08:46] copy them to external drive, and just make fresh install [08:46] For future: use apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade [08:47] apt-get upgrade may lead to held packages, etc. [08:47] Well, I do wonder if apt-get dist-upgrade might not be an option now. [08:48] yes, it might be an option [08:50] Alt-F3 is tty3, Alt-F4 is tty4. I am at tty2 now I guess, login and password gets me to a prompt there. [08:51] tty1 or Alt-F1 I can see is stalled, frozen, at the GDM setup [08:54] Well, I'll get a 20.04 on USB, will boot from there, and have a look around. [08:55] I saw somewhere Synaptic can export a list of all the installed packages. [08:56] But really its the Firefox info and maybe the Evolution mails perhaps. I've got them exported and backed up, somewhat recently. [09:01] Thanks folks. Tomorrow is another day. USB drive copying home directory in case all else fails. Boot from a USB 20.04 and have a look around. [09:02] copy all content of /home/USERNAME/ [09:02] yep [09:03] Well then good luck reinstalling Ubuntu [09:03] You have nothing else to lose (except your files) so go for it [09:04] Ok then see ya guys later [09:04] Grr. My mistake. I should have paused and chosen not to apt-get upgrade. [09:04] Thanks folks. [09:08] The apt-get upgrade clobbered my gdm and somehow did a dist-upgrade 18.04 to 20.04. Mind-boggling. [09:10] sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop gnome-shell yes I do wonder if that might replace it. Mbe not available in 20.04 is a worry. === Guest9520 is now known as money === ningrat is now known as ningrats === jesopo is now known as jess === atol71 is now known as atol [11:56] hi everybody [11:56] how can i find the mac address of a specific network ? === vxwarlock is now known as vx_TopGun [12:15] cat /sys/class/net/ens1f0/address [12:26] :) [12:30] PowaBanga_: a MAC address identifies a specific hardware device on a network to which you have a physical network connection. You cannot "see" MAC addresses outside your own physical network. [12:31] So "MAC address for a network" makes no sense. This is an XY question. What is the problem you are trying to solve by "finding the MAC address of a specific network"? [12:32] also, hmm, this is #ubuntu ... sounds like a question for #netfilter or #networking [12:33] I'm in #netfilter if you want to follow up there. [12:33] im not sure what else is to answer here [12:33] if he does not mean the mac of a specific interface the whole question makes no sense [12:40] Hi all [12:41] so, let's see if upgrading to 2204 works or destroys my system :) [12:43] test [12:43] i have issues on wifi card on heavy load it drops connection [12:43] https://pastebin.com/MpAUF5mp [12:47] lsd|2, i had the same issue. https://github.com/tomaspinho/rtl8821ce this helped [12:48] Why do you suspect the wireless adapter as the cause of this? And what connections are dropped, under what kind of load? You can't exceed the capacity of your wireless network. [12:48] is this a USB device? [12:48] rob0: all connections everything [12:49] no its cheapest laptop on market ideapa3 14ada05 [12:50] sudo systemctl restart NetworkManager.service [12:50] then starts working again [12:50] Anyway, sounds like ravage is familiar with the device and problem. [12:50] my new laptop has this device yes [12:51] ravage: it means default driver is buggy in 22.04 but i will try your link [12:52] make sure you disable the dkms driver that comes with Ubuntu 22.04 before you install it [13:05] hmm... why does firefox switch to a snap, but thunderbird doesn't? or does it, and no one used it to complain about it? :) [13:18] cbreak: kinda offtopic here but it was mozilla's decission from what i've heard. [13:19] and thunderbird is a community thing for years now, not Mozilla's anymore [13:21] * ogra points to https😕/snapcraft.i👋thunderbird ... [13:21] bah [13:22] cbreak: quote: "Why did we choose to make Firefox a snap? This decision was made in collaboration with Mozilla based on the quality of life improvements that snap delivers" https://ubuntu.com/blog/how-are-we-improving-firefox-snap-performance-part-1 [13:25] ogra: yeah, I saw that, but that's canonical's, while firefox snap is mozilla's. [14:13] rob0, thanks for the netfilter channel 🙂 [14:14] yw [14:14] How do I run x86 software on Ubuntu ARM === jiggawatt is now known as KnifeCrime === mcs3ss2_ is now known as mcs3ss2 [14:32] updating to 22.04 seems to have worked. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1970066 hasn't hit me ... yet :D [14:32] Launchpad bug 1970066 in snapd (Ubuntu Jammy) "(Encrypted) ZFS breaks 22.04 installation" [Critical, Confirmed] [14:32] but somehow the new firefox doesn't preserve the selected icon [15:21] I have the following problem: When my Optical Drive (sata) is not under use, it gets accessed frequently (are atleast it does access sounds) and in kernel there are messages like this: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/w3sgVmcsZn/ <- it does not happen when i access the drive... and the drive is working perfectly fine. Does anyone have any idea what that could cause? The main problem is not the messages in the kernel. The Main Problem is the constant noise it [15:21] makes when it this message gets printed. I rly googled a lot and i dont know what to look at exactly. It happens since around the upgrade to ubuntu 22.04 ... but it could also be happening before that. im not 100 % on that [15:27] where do I get autoreconf? [15:32] llanhmod: the binary? in autoconf [15:32] TheBigK: got it...thanks. [15:32]