 https://we.phorge.it/Q11
 IS an option to phab?
[03:52] <arraybolt3> N0um3n0: I looked at that some. I think teward hates Phabricator, though, so I'm not sure if he will want to do that, since Phorge is basically just Phabricator.
 its also not my call
 is phorge just a fork  of phab?
 i think so?  i havent heard about it until now
 PHP is not fun to harden tho
[05:17] <arraybolt3> lynorian: I believe that Phorge is a community-supported Phabricator fork, since Phabricator went out of support.
[17:47] <kc2bez[m]> Simon Quigley: where did you push liblxqt to? I can see the GH repo was updated but I don't see your commits. 
[17:49] <kc2bez[m]> Based on the buildlog it looks like we need to drop some symbols for armhf.
[17:56] <kc2bez[m]> As far as a git hosting platform I don't know that it really matters too much. Those of us doing the development work could probably use anything. I think something like gitea has a lower barrier to entry for new folks so it makes sense. I am in favor of proceeding as planned. @teward001 keep us posted on progress. I have some things I'd like to get working on.
[20:32] <arraybolt3> Hey, since a lot of us do alpha and beta testing, and probably a significant amount of that beta testing is in a VM, what would you guys think if I built a script to automate the downloading and verification of ISO files, and the creation of a VM from the newly downloaded ISO? You'd then be able to install or test however you wanted to in the VM, and you'd be able to do the whole thing with one command. Does that sound useful?
[20:32] <arraybolt3> (The whole thing being the downloading of the ISO and the initial creation of the VM - you'd still have to do the install or live test yourself.)
[20:32] <arraybolt3> I have a GitHub account, so I'll be able to share the script with everyone once its done.
[20:34] <kc2bez[m]> Like quickemu? https://github.com/quickemu-project/quickemu
[20:34] <kc2bez[m]> Quickget has an option to zsync your download 
[20:45] <kc2bez[m]> Eickmeyer @eickmeyer:matrix.org: has a pretty nifty script for just downloading the images. Also, this is an option https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ann-dl-ubuntu-test-iso-an-easy-way-to-download-latest-daily-images/15340
[20:49] <kc2bez[m]> If you use zsync it will only download the delta and verify automatically.
[21:02] <arraybolt3> I use zsync, but it's cumbersome to zsync, gpg verify, sha256sum, open Gnome Boxes, etc., etc. My idea was "testISO http://path/to/zsync http://path/to/GPG http://path/to/SHA256SUM" and after a bit of downloading you'd get a VM screen.
[21:03] <arraybolt3> (Ack, didn't realize IRC was going to linkify my http thingies...)
[21:03] <arraybolt3> Sounds like y'all have this pretty well figured out already.
[21:05] <arraybolt3> The dl-ubuntu-test-iso seems like it's just a downloader, whereas it's the VM creation that's getting a bit tedious. (I like optimizing things to an extreme.) I guess I'm thinking of something kinda like quickemu that's geared just towards testing.
[21:05] <arraybolt3> Eickmeyer's thing sounds cool.
[21:06] <kc2bez[m]> I think folks settle into a process that works for them. I guess things could go wrong but I don't bother verifying if I use zsync, it already does that.
[21:07] <arraybolt3> Yeah, but the GPG key... (I'm also a security freak LOL). If nothing else, I'll use the script I make, so it can't hurt to GitHub it as GPLv3 and see what happens. Maybe it'll help someone, maybe it'll just be the process that works for me.
[21:08] <kc2bez[m]> For sure. Some sort of meld using already available tools is good.
[21:09] <arraybolt3> Exactly. Just a script that automates zsync, gpg, sha256sum, and qemu-system-x86_64 (and maybe qemu-img and qemu-nfs or whatever it's called, too).
[21:09] <arraybolt3> qemu-nbd is what I meant for that last one. That would let you add tools for use within the VM.
[21:10] <kc2bez[m]> I use quickemu a ton. My dev environment has lived there for many cycles now.
[21:11] <arraybolt3> I took a look at it, it looked really cool. The only thing that was concerning is that the guy lets you make macOS VMs with it, and that's...
[21:12]  * arraybolt3 mumbles something about EULAs
[21:12] <arraybolt3> But I guess no one has to use that feature to use the tool. I should look at quickemu again.
[21:15] <arraybolt3> (I see why you use quickemu - it already does almost exactly what I want! That's so cool!)
[21:15] <kc2bez[m]> Yeah, exactly. ;)
 "Simon Quigley: where did you..." <- Should be on the ubuntu/kinetic branch
[22:53]  * kc2bez[m] shakes fist at GitHub
 "Should be on the ubuntu/..." <- Sorry, I don't see it on a clone nor in the webui.