[00:14] <quackgyver> My keyboard's keys randomly stop working.
[00:15] <quackgyver> Right now the tag key (<>) won't work, which prevents me from coding.
[00:15] <quackgyver> What do I do to fix it?
[00:15] <quackgyver> And how do I figure out what's causing it?
[00:16] <InPhase> quackgyver: I have had this problem, and it was due to the keyboard cable being compressed too much where the fold in the cable was.  I resolved it by opening up the laptop and inserting a thin roll of poster putty into the fold of the keyboard cable, and then reassembling the laptop.  This resolved the bending radius issue with the cable, and I've had zero problems since.
[00:18] <InPhase> Any sort of material with the appropriate physical properties can be shoved in there.  If you want a hint as to whether or not this is the problem, it's more likely to be true if you ever notice the problem depending on the flex in the laptop, or depending on pressure on the top of the laptop.  It might also be accompanied by a thermal dependence.
[00:20] <InPhase> I think it has become a much more common problem as they keep trying to shrink these laptops down and squish everything tight.  Electricity does not like very tight 180 degree turns very much.
[01:30] <balticsunrise> i made a mistake with do-release-upgrade from 20.04, can someone please advise me how to reset my sources and do the right upgrade to 22.04?
[01:32] <Bashing-om> balticsunrise: There is no Go-back button. All we can do is try and fix what is.
[01:33] <balticsunrise> yeah, i ctrl+c terminated it when i found out it was upgrading to impish and now my sources list got messed up and i cant edit the entries
[01:34] <balticsunrise> should i be trying to manually edit the files in /etc/apt to remove references to impish and back to focal?
[01:34] <InPhase> balticsunrise: Here are the non-commented lines in my sources.list for 22.04:  https://bpa.st/BE3Q
[01:35] <InPhase> You do not actually need to go through impish.
[01:36] <balticsunrise> InPhase: thanks, so i can just change the distribution codename in text editor to jammy and it will take care of the rest?
[01:36] <balticsunrise> when i run apt update && upgrade it complains there are multiple entries and it wont let me edit them in software & updates
[01:38] <InPhase> balticsunrise: Well the old method prior to the invention of do-release-upgrade was to just update the sources.list and do an apt-get dist-upgrade.  It appears to still be available as "apt full-upgrade", so I would try editing the file, then do an apt update, then do the apt full-upgrade.
[01:40] <balticsunrise> InPhase: okay, so i should invoke gedit with sudo to do that?
[01:40] <balticsunrise> seems to glitch out and fail to display correctly whenever i do that btw
[01:41] <InPhase> Sure.  But sincere advice, make a backup copy of any file in /etc/ before you edit it unless you are 100% confident in what you're doing.  It increases the odds that you can recover from errors.
[01:41] <InPhase> You mean that gedit is malfunctioning?
[01:41] <InPhase> There are many other editors, but you're down to choosing between whichever ones you have installed when your sources.list is messed up.
[01:42] <balticsunrise> yes, gedit won't display correctly. also i can't boot from usb or livecd so if this build gets screwed up there's no way back afaik
[01:46] <balticsunrise> it would really help if i could boot the livecd and do a fresh install but i don't know why it won't but it just skips to the next device in the boot priority
[01:51] <arraybolt3> balticsunrise: You probably have nano available on your system. It's a text editor that runs in the command line, and I have yet to see an Ubuntu system without it, so try "sudo nano" rather than "sudo gedit".
[01:52] <balticsunrise> arraybolt3: i'll try that thanks
[01:55] <arraybolt3> Also, with the bit about "skipping to the next device in the boot priority", you might be able to make your system boot from a live USB by using the UEFI boot menu. Just hit "Esc" (or whatever key your system tells you to use) during early boot to get to some boot options. One of them should be a boot menu. Select that, then select your USB drive from the list. (Note that the USB drive will need to be plugged in when you do this.)
[01:56] <balticsunrise> arraybolt3: i think its an old chipset/bios that doesn't support UEFI or usb boot? but i could get it to boot the livecd once earlier, but it failed to launch the graphical installer and dropped to a command line error. i can't even get it that far now...
[01:59] <arraybolt3> Can you burn a new DVD and try using that? You might also try cleaning the lens of your DVD drive with a little bit of rubbing alcohol (while you're system is off, of course, and let everything dry for 15 minutes before turning it back on if you do this).
[02:03] <balticsunrise> i don't think it's the dvd or the reader, i also burnt boot-repair-disk.iso and plop boot manager to dvds...the boot-repair disk just skips to the next boot priority the same as the ubuntu livecd, and i can get the plop cd to bootstrap into ventoy but it fails to launch any of the isos from there, stuck on a blank screen with a flashing "_" cursor
[02:04] <balticsunrise> plop cd -> ubuntu liveusb made with rufus just skips the same as well
[02:46] <balticsunrise> thanks again for the tips!
[02:49] <cluelessperson> this latest ubuntu lts install is crashing randomly
[02:49] <cluelessperson> weird
[02:49] <cluelessperson> pulling me out of docker containers
[02:49] <cluelessperson> killing my user session
[02:50] <jhutchins> cluelessperson: Did you checksum the downloaded image?  What hardware are you running it from?
[02:51] <cluelessperson> jhutchins, torrent software does that automatically, and from a Lenovo thinkpad x1 yoga 4th gen
[02:52] <jhutchins> cluelessperson: I meant like DVD or USB.
[02:52] <jhutchins> I still think you should checksum the final image.  Torrent software is not infalible, and it sounds like you might have multiple errors if it's crashing randomly.
[02:53] <jhutchins> That or a hardware problem.
[02:53] <cluelessperson> I don't think it's an image issue.
[02:54] <InPhase> cluelessperson: Did you check the tail end of the syslog right at the points of crashing?
[02:55] <InPhase> Sometimes that will point you in the right direction to poke.
[02:55] <InPhase> Check a few instances to see if the pattern is consistent.
[03:04] <leftyfb> dmesg is also useful
[03:04] <leftyfb> I would run a memory check as well
[03:10] <balticsunrise> update, i seem to have gotten myself into more trouble with dependencies now...there were hundreds of packages held back and so they apparently stayed on focal release versions, i ran dist-upgrade to fix it but i just read its probably removing packages it shouldn't now?
[03:12] <balticsunrise> i tried to open gedit to save the output from the command line but it crashed on opening, then i opened libreoffice and i got "invalid problem report: no such file or directory" and the whole system has now frozen during the dist-upgrade still in progress
[03:13] <balticsunrise> if i reboot am i going to end up with the system in an unrecoverable state?
[03:21] <balticsunrise> okay i got a terminal back, can anyone please suggest what might be the best thing to run from the terminal now to repair the situation?
[03:41] <ahc> balticsunrise it seems you're in a similar position to myself. Haven't tried gedit yet. Sorry I can't help.
[03:44] <ahc> Question. I'm at tty2, lost the Gnome Desktop, I've mounted a USB ram stick, but can't copy to it Permission Denied. Strange thing is sudo chown aa:aa /media/usb32  says Operation not permitted. Grr. I just want to copy some files over.
[03:45] <ahc> Will try a sudo cp *.txt /media/usb32   see if that works
[03:46] <arraybolt3_> balticsunrise: At this point, things sound extremely broken, and I really don't know what would help. Do you have any other computers with a 64-bit CPU?
[03:47] <ahc> Yes, that worked. What a drama. I seem not to be able to chown of the USB dir. Mbe I should chown the actual device /dev/sda1
[03:47] <arraybolt3_> ahc: Your chown isn't working most likely because of FAT32.
[03:48] <arraybolt3_> ahc: Chown'ing the actual device probably wouldn't do what you wanted, and it might open a security hole (though I'm not entirely sure about that).
[03:48] <ahc> OK arraybolt3_
[03:48] <arraybolt3_> ahc: FAT32 filesystems don't support UNIX permissions like file owner. The ownership depends on how you mount the drive. If you used "sudo mount", only root will have access to it.
[03:48] <arraybolt3_> There's a command to mount it as a standard user, but I don't remember it.
[03:49] <ahc> Understood. I'll hit the 'net for that one. It must have been done before.
[03:50] <arraybolt3_> Actually, I just found it. Add "-o umask=000" to your mount command.
[03:53] <ahc> Yes, I got this, so, that's good. We'll give it a try.  $ sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/USB -o [securityoption]
[03:54] <arraybolt3> Nice, looks good. (As an aside, -o allows you to specify various options, umask just appears to be one of them.)
[03:57] <ahc> Wow. That works well. Great.
[07:24] <barg> if I type various commands and get various outputs e.g. suppose one of them is $ls<ENTER> and get some output. Is there a log file that stores both the commands and the output?
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> barg: history will log your typed commands in terminal
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> not sure if outputs can be logged
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> you can save an outout though
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> *output
[07:27] <barg> that'd be on a command by command basis though, adjusting the command to output to some file
[07:28] <biapy> barg: you may want to try on #bash
[07:28] <barg> ok, thanks
[07:38] <cluelessperson> my laptop's wifi is lagging every  minute or so
[07:38] <cluelessperson> it's making it very difficult to test things remotely on the rpi
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> cluelessperson: ubuntu release, kernel version and wifi chipset please?
[07:43] <cluelessperson> Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, linux-image-5.15.0-25-generic, 00:14.3 Network controller: Intel Corporation Cannon Point-LP CNVi [Wireless-AC] (rev 11)
[07:43] <cluelessperson> lotuspsychje, ^
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> update your system to latest first please cluelessperson
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> !uptodate | cluelessperson
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> should be kernel 5.15.0-33-generic by now
[07:48] <cluelessperson> lotuspsychje, apt upgrade doesn't seem to be doing that
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> cluelessperson: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[07:49] <cluelessperson> it's just updating gzip
[08:04] <cluelessperson> okay, "software updater" bugging you ever 5 minutes to update is annoying
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> cluelessperson: always keep your system up to date, less annoyances
[08:07] <cluelessperson> lotuspsychje, Intel Wireless-AC 9560, 802.11ac Dual Band 2x2 Wi-Fi + Bluetooth 5.1
[08:07] <cluelessperson> lotuspsychje, I do, but I don't need dumb popups when I'm using ansible to perform apt update often
[08:09] <greengecko> Hello I've noticed that The Ubuntu gives me an error at the moment
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> cluelessperson: after reboot into your new kernel version, test your wifi some time, if you keep having lags, ask again in this channel
[08:09] <greengecko> 503 Service Unavailable
[08:09] <greengecko> No server is available to handle this request.
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> greengecko: where do you get that?
[08:10] <greengecko> Ubuntu website Ubuntu.com
[08:10] <greengecko> its down it seems
[08:10] <cluelessperson> lotuspsychje, I'm confused why a reboot is needed.
[08:10] <cluelessperson> lotuspsychje, linux uses live patching for the most part now
[08:38] <Maik> cluelessperson: if you activated the livepatch yes, but in some cases you still need to reboot
[08:39] <Maik> plus the live patch is only available on LTS releases
[08:42] <Maik> livepatches are only useful to workstations & companies imho, not the regular home users
[08:45] <Maik> Oh, i forgot to mention that only main Ubuntu LTS releases have the livepatch option, not the other flavors.
[08:48] <cluelessperson> Maik, apparently Canonical is paywalling livepatching for ubuntu behind a subscription
[08:48] <cluelessperson> What the fuck.
[08:49] <cluelessperson> What sort of trash is this. https://ubuntu.com/security/livepatch
[08:49] <Maik> cluelessperson: livepatches are available to everyone and please mind the language a bit :)
[08:49] <cluelessperson> "Livepatch is included in Ubuntu Pro and Ubuntu Advantage. "
[08:50] <Maik> cluelessperson: "Free for personal use:Anyone can use UA-I Essential for free on up to 3 machines, or 50 if you are an official Ubuntu Community member."    https://ubuntu.com/advantage#livepatch
[08:51] <cluelessperson> "Personal and community subscriptions are available at no charge"
[08:51] <cluelessperson> How about they just not do this sorta mickey mouse crap.
[08:51]  * cluelessperson moves on to testing wifi
[08:53] <cluelessperson> yeah, wifi is still lagging out
[09:19] <decompilexe> Hello
[09:20] <luna> hi
[09:21] <cluelessperson> sup
[09:22] <alocer> Hello Guys, anyone knows what is the repo for building ubuntu ISO images ?
[09:23] <alocer> live-build seems really old on ubuntu repo's, it seems I should use debian bullseye for creating a customized version of jammy?
[09:36] <tomreyn> alocer: https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-image
[09:37] <tomreyn> i'm not sure whether this is actually used for building the installer / live ISOs, but those do contain an image which is just extracted to the target.
[09:37] <alocer> tomreyn: this is for building the cloud images. thank for mentioning this.
[09:44] <cluelessperson> my wifi is atrocious
[09:50] <Maik> cluelessperson: not much we can do about it so to keep on complaining about it isn't really helping either. Maybe Jeremy31 knows how to solve it if he's around.
[09:50] <cluelessperson> I need to sleep.  thanks though
[10:28] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[10:30] <luna> hi
[11:13] <brk> Pipol! can someone please help me sort out modules drivers and whatever is needed for my sound card to be found and get some sound from the speakers
[11:13] <brk> https://pastebin.com/X6z9xPtn
[11:16] <tomreyn> brk: your ubuntu release, kernel version, audio chipset + codec are?
[11:17] <Maik> brk: didn't you get it solved yesterday?
[11:17] <brk> 22.04, Linux core 5.15.0-33-generic #34-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 18 13:34:26 UTC 2022 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:17] <brk> Maik, nope :/
[11:19] <tomreyn> your paste shows only HDMI audio devices, is this what you intend to use?
[11:20] <tomreyn> if you don't know about the hardware, running alsa-info and uploading the output should help
[11:20] <brk> tomreyn, no sound / dummy sound
[11:21] <tomreyn> that's another useful bit of information, but far from a full picture. ;)
[11:22] <brk> https://pastebin.com/KvPT4Gyg
[11:22] <brk> May 29 11:54:17 core pulseaudio[10516]: Failed to load module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="0" name="pci-0000_00_1f.3-platform-skl_hda>
[11:24] <brk> I don't know how to investigate and what autputs to look for. I am super lame new to linux
[11:29] <BluesKaj> brk, there used to be a bug that's never been tatally fixed with intel audio, the driver fails to on boot, perhaps sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel and reboot might work. If the there's no output from that command then the driver loaded properly.
[11:30] <brk> let me see
[11:30] <brk> no output
[11:30] <BluesKaj> ok, try a reboot now
[11:30] <brk> ok
[11:32] <brk> rebooted
[11:33] <BluesKaj> also make sure automute is disabled in alsamixer
[11:33] <brk> sound worked on win 11 (thats how i bought it) then installed 22.04 and worked as well. Somewhere something happened and no sound
[11:33] <brk> let me see
[11:34] <brk> https://ibb.co/6NNxCwV
[11:35] <ogra> "thats how i bought it" <-- can you be more specific what "it" is ? (laptop, desktop, brand, model etc)
[11:35] <brk> ogra, huawei d15
[11:38] <brk> do you need some info from alsamixer of asound/ version, cards, devices, oss devices, timers, pcm
[11:39] <Maik> keep in mind that Windows isn't Linux and vice versa. What "works" on Windows doesn't need to "work" on Linux persé.
[11:39] <brk> Maik, yeah, but it all wokred on both OS
[11:40] <Maik> try booting from a older kernel and see if it works
[11:40] <Maik> if so then file a bug report on the matter
[11:40] <brk> and all changes or installs I did after ubuntu was securty wise procedures (like the usual rkhunter, ufw settings, vpn, apparmor, fail2ban etc)
[11:41] <brk> Maik, ok, which older kernal version would you recommend?
[11:41] <Maik> the one that worked for you before
[11:41] <brk> it is the one I am using now, 5.15
[11:42] <ogra> do you have the "firmware-sof-signed" package installed ?
[11:42] <brk> could it be possible if I install windows 11, maybe it will fix the drivers and then install again ubuntu 22.04?
[11:42] <Maik> brk: probably 5.15.0-25
[11:42] <brk> ogra, I am not sure, how do I check?
[11:42] <ogra> "dpkg -l | grep firmware-sof"
[11:43] <Maik> brk: drivers in windows do not have any influence on Ubuntu or any other distro
[11:43] <brk> Maik ok, im currently with 5.15.0.33, will try 0-25
[11:44] <brk> ogra, its signed
[11:44] <brk> brk@core:~$ dpkg -l | grep firmware-sof
[11:44] <brk> ii  firmware-sof-signed                        2.0-1ubuntu3                            all          Intel SOF firmware - signed
[11:44] <brk> brk@core:~$
[11:44] <ogra> doe it say "ii" at the start of the line ?
[11:44] <ogra> ah
[11:44] <brk> yep
[11:46] <brk> I see a lot suggestions about "pulseaudio -d" that is placed in startup - but I can't find it.
[11:46] <ogra> pulse only consumes the driver ... yur prob lies lower
[11:46] <ogra> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1243369/sound-card-not-detected-ubuntu-20-04-sof-audio-pci
[11:46] <ogra> that thread has some suggestions
[11:47] <brk> ogra, I didn't try this threat. Will do now, thanks
[11:53] <ogra> but there seems to also be https://github.com/thesofproject/linux/issues/3248 ... which indicates that you'll probably have to wait until the kernel/alsa fully support it
[11:56] <brk> ogra, in my case aplay -l beofre changing the suggested line in /etc/default/grub, showed me three devices HDMI, and card 0 on all. After changing the line in the file ... now aplay -l shows 11 HDMI devices, subdevices 0 and card 0 on all
[11:57] <brk> ill try with older kernal
[12:04] <brk> kernal 5.15-25 failing the load, bad shim signure
[12:05] <brk> installed this one https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v5.15.25/amd64/
[12:07] <Maik> brk: you're not supposed to install kernels through that PPA as was told yesterday
[12:07] <Maik> you're doing it wrong
[12:07] <brk> Maik, can you please let me know where from ...
[12:07] <Maik> the official repo, what else
[12:07] <brk> I tought thi sis official
[12:08] <Maik> as was told yesterday, no
[12:08] <brk> ah I see now, this is mainline .... meaning for testing only
[12:08] <Maik> indeed
[12:09] <Maik> you should have older kernels installed already on your system, at least one if it's a 22.04 clean install
[12:09] <Maik> you should be able to select the older kernel from grub when booting
[12:10] <BluesKaj> !ppa | brk
[12:13] <brk> Maik, but all kernal versions I find are Mainline, where do I get official legit and stable kernal version.
[12:14] <Maik> brk: in the official repo using sudo apt install whateverthepackagesnameis
[12:14] <brk> https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/
[12:14] <brk> is it from ubuntu-stable?
[12:15] <Maik> brk: but again: you should be able to select the older kernel from grub when booting
[12:15] <Maik> brk: sigh... not from there...
[12:16] <brk> by the way all kernal versions showing on grub are mainline and non are loading. Only the 5.18 version loads up
[12:16] <Maik> brk: sudo apt install linux-image-5.15.0-25-generic
[12:16] <Maik> that's how it's done
[12:17] <brk> oh okay
[12:17] <Maik> brk: we told you not to use the mainline kernels
[12:19] <Maik> brk: re-install might be the best option, don't update and see if the sound works. Then check which kernel you use with uname -r
[12:19] <brk> linux-image-5.15.0-25-generic is already the newest version (5.15.0-25.25)
[12:19] <Maik> and stop installing kernels from that mainline ppa
[12:20] <Maik> if -25 is installed you should be able to boot from it
[12:20] <brk> but it loads 5.15.0-33, as 5.15.0-25 doesnt load, bad shim signiture
[12:20] <brk> I will try now
[12:21] <Maik> brk: i guess you bricked it because you fooled around with your system by installing stuff from elsewhere.
[12:22] <brk> Maik, thank you. the new official kernal loaded up now. The other 5.15.0.25 couldnt load
[12:23] <brk> Maik, I hope its not bricked. I guess will install windows 11 back and return the laptop as faulty
[12:23] <Maik> brk: remove all the mainline kernels you installed and purge that mainline PPA
[12:23] <brk> ok
[12:23] <Maik> brk: ok, your choice. Good luck. :)
[12:29] <brk> :)
[12:31] <Guest8510>  my current Dell R10 with a 3090 running linux and playing day of defeat, the Nvidia card runs 40C hotter.... under windows 10 it never goes above 34C.... and the AMD CPU, 2 cores under linux are maxed out, while on win 10 utilizes about 30 % of a couple cores.
[12:31] <Guest8510> So the card runs at just over 80C while playing a game on linux... is that normal?
[12:31] <brk> Thank you Maiik, now I have removed all kernals and left only the signed one
[12:31] <brk> brk@core:~$ dpkg --list | grep linux-image
[12:31] <brk> ii  linux-image-5.15.0-25-generic 5.15.0-25.25 amd64  Signed kernel image generic
[12:47] <oehman> good morning
[12:48] <oehman> went past 1:30 am last night
[13:48] <Jyan> Hello :>
[14:00] <VIA> hi all!
[14:01] <VIA> how do i install 'blueman' on 20.04 if at the firts step i get the following error: https://privnote.com/WoYzsDq3#4pu6cpcuo
[14:02] <VIA> short "... is configured multiple times in .../sources.list:2 and ...list:50" -> bm has no installation candidate
[14:02] <leftyfb> VIA: step #1: fix the problem it tells you about a
[14:02] <VIA> sorry i didnt get that
[14:02] <leftyfb> fix the duplicate lines
[14:03] <VIA> if i knew how to, i wouldnt be asking here u know
[14:03] <leftyfb> cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:03] <leftyfb> post the URL here so we can see your sources.list
[14:03] <VIA> .?
[14:04] <leftyfb> via, in a terminal , type:   cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:04] <leftyfb> VIA: it will spit out a URL, post the URL here
[14:06] <VIA> aye
[14:07] <VIA> leftyfb: https://termbin.com/gm40
[14:08] <leftyfb> VIA: you have a pretty messed up sources.list. Why are most things commented out?
[14:08] <tomreyn> that's a weird sources.list
[14:08] <VIA> at some point i removed all bluetooth related stuff icould find because the system became prone to crashes after using a bt 5.0 dongle, which never worke in the firts place
[14:09] <VIA> leftyfb: again, no idea what ur talking out
[14:09] <VIA> ... "commented out" ???
[14:09] <ravage> the # at the first position
[14:09] <VIA> i dont feel were getting closer to me removing one of the 2 sources
[14:10] <leftyfb> VIA: give me a moment
[14:10] <VIA> what about it ravage
[14:10] <leftyfb> VIA: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/k3yHhSqHCm/
[14:11] <ravage> VIA: try these commands and see if it fixes your problem https://p.haxxors.com/f86sb1ya.txt
[14:11] <leftyfb> via sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/sources.list.backup
[14:11] <leftyfb> VIA: then replace the entire contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list with the contents of what I posted
[14:12] <tomreyn> curl -s https://termbin.com/gm40 | nl -ba
[14:12] <leftyfb> tomreyn: ?
[14:13] <tomreyn> this shows how lines 2 and 50 cover the same
[14:13] <tomreyn> as indicated by he message
[14:13] <tomreyn> as indicated by the warning message
[14:13] <VIA> again no clue where to start
[14:13] <tomreyn> it doesn't solve the generally broken sources.list file, though
[14:14] <leftyfb> VIA: ravage's command in his pastebin should work
[14:15] <leftyfb> or use mine:   sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list ~/sources.list.backup && sudo wget -O /etc/apt/sources.list https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/k3yHhSqHCm/plain/ && sudo apt update
[14:15] <VIA> this ok so 3, 3 commands right?
[14:15] <VIA> ill give it a shot
[14:17] <VIA> well its running
[14:17] <tomreyn> VIA: for the future, please note that editing /etc/apt/sources.list is not a suitable approach to "remove all bluetooth related stuff" nor to prevent that "the system became prone to crashes after using a bt 5.0 dongle, which never worked in the first place"
[14:18] <tomreyn> better come here and ask for help with the original issue when such things occur
[14:18] <tomreyn> i have a feeling that this happened before?
[14:19] <VIA> so now it tells me 311 packages can be upgraded
[14:19] <leftyfb> VIA: right, who knows how long you've had a broken system
[14:20] <leftyfb> VIA: this messed up sources.list has probably causing lots of problems
[14:21] <ravage> please upgrade all your packages :)
[14:23] <VIA> yup been getting wierd error here and then
[14:23] <s> Hey everyone!
[14:24] <VIA> 311 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them. .. tell me how to see them. how do i upgrade them ?
[14:24] <leftyfb> VIA: sudo apt full-upgrade
[14:24] <VIA> ty leftyfb !
[14:25] <VIA> should i take any precautions ?
[14:25] <VIA> closing down software etc ?
[14:25] <leftyfb> nope
[14:25] <ravage> a reboot after the upgrades may be a good idea
[14:35] <VIA> how come the repositories when i open up this software+updating GUI thingy, have not changed at all ?
[14:35] <leftyfb> VIA: what exactly is the "software+updating GUI thingy"?
[14:36] <leftyfb> VIA: can you screenshot it or take a picture with your phone?
[14:38] <PeGaSuS> probably the "Software Updater" application?
[14:38] <VIA> no sht
[14:39] <VIA> https://i.postimg.cc/YST79W5K/updatethingy.jpg
[14:39] <leftyfb> VIA: that is showing 3rd party repo's that you added which are in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[14:39] <ogra> this is the additional software sources
[14:40] <ogra> (and canonical partner is just empty since quite a while, partners use snaps nowadays)
[14:40] <ogra> (... i.e. you can just uncheck it)
[14:40] <leftyfb> VIA: click on the "Ubuntu Software tab"
[14:40] <VIA> hmhm i dont like snap*
[14:40] <leftyfb> it's probably there that you messed with disabling repo's
[14:41] <leftyfb> at one point
[14:41] <leftyfb> lets not get into snap-hate. It's getting really old
[14:41] <ogra> (and irrational 🙂 )
[14:41] <leftyfb> VIA: either way, you should be fine now. Don't go messing with your repo's unless you know what you are doing
[14:41] <VIA> you said hate, not me, and again i have no clue what ur talking about, luckyfor me this time
[14:42] <VIA> it finishe the upgrade but at the end thers a lot of funky stuff
[14:42] <leftyfb> "funky stuff" is not a good way to troubleshoot
[14:42] <leftyfb> VIA: pastebin the messages please
[14:45] <VIA> eg hinting at "possible firmware missing"
[14:45] <VIA> yea im copying all the output after upgrade cmd
[14:47] <VIA> this is the full process -> https://pastebin.com/pwLhwD3b
[14:48] <VIA> the last 30-40 lines or so seem funky
[14:48] <leftyfb> there's nothing wrong with the last lines
[14:48] <leftyfb> it's either still going or you didn't pastebin the very end
[14:49] <VIA> no i posted the very end.
[14:50] <VIA> anyhow ill give it a boot leftyfb what u think :>
[14:50] <leftyfb> sure
[14:50] <VIA> cya soon sir and thxalot so far leftyfb <3
[15:04] <VIA> leftyfb: looks like it worked alright thanks again
[15:35] <daulphin[m]> Hello, is this a live chat? Can I expect help here please?
[15:40] <kostkon> daulphin[m], yes and yes
[15:41] <kostkon> !details | daulphin[m]
[15:45] <daulphin[m]> Ok, thank you ubottu> I am writing everything
[15:46] <daulphin[m]> I am experiencing a weird situation, I am not able to connect to my vpn since I have upgraded to Ubuntu 22.04:
[15:46] <daulphin[m]> I get a connection when executing a Terminal connection command ie.: "openvpn --config filename.ovpn"
[15:46] <daulphin[m]> I get an "Activation of Network Connection failed" error when switching-on the VPN profile from Network setting GUI.
[15:46] <daulphin[m]> Any suggestion please ?
[15:46] <daulphin[m]> Here is my log
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[16:00] <daulphin[m]> When I use Terminal command: openvpn --config filename.ovpn
[16:00] <daulphin[m]> I get the connection and this is the output
[16:00] <daulphin[m]> 2022-05-29 17:58:23 Outgoing Control Channel Authentication: Using 256 bit message hash 'SHA256' for HMAC authentication... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/a587321e318d611e6daffa2decdad2c41e920bc6)
[16:23] <daulphin[m]> Any suggestion please ?
[16:28] <brkco> i-garrison, Maik, ogra  .. after installing win11 and ran all updates the sound got back.
[16:29] <brkco> will be getting back to ubuntu 22.04 now and hopefully will have sound again and wont be touching shady kernals anyore :D
[16:31] <brkco> now I wonder, is it possible to make bootable ubuntu on encrypted usb drive?
[16:31] <i-garrison> brkco: you mean it's back even after cold boot? in that case this is likely system firmware update applied that fixed it
[16:32] <brkco> its seems so
[16:33] <i-garrison> that's on the weirdest side of heisenbugs
[16:33] <brkco> interesting is that I tried first with windows 10 LTSE and after the updates the sound still wasn't working. Then installed win 11 and the updates did what they did
[16:34] <i-garrison> brkco: maybe worth exploring if laptop maker provides a way to update firmware in windows-free environment
[16:34] <brkco> i-garrison, this is exactly what I am going to do after dinner, haven't eaten for 7 hours !
[16:35] <i-garrison> brkco: just to double check, are you sure you did cold boot directly to ubuntu? that is, reboot windows, power off, and then boot ubuntu directly
[16:36] <brkco> no no, I just removed ubuntu, installed windows 10 ltse and then installed windows 11, now will be installing ubuntu again (pretty sure the sound will work again)
[16:36] <frickler> daulphin[m]: not sure if related, but there are multiple issues still pending, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openvpn/+bug/1975574
[16:37] <oerheks> kinetic = 22.10, the beta
[16:38] <i-garrison> brkco: try checking sound via booting ubuntu livecd - you do not need to install it for the test; try rebooting to livecd without powering off, and then with powering off and compare results
[16:38] <brkco> i-garrison, oh right, that's great advise
[16:39] <brkco> now I have to figure out whether is possible to make bootable ubuntu on a usb that is encrypted
[16:39] <i-garrison> brkco: while in live environment, if you have 'pa-info' there do pastebin that if possible; or at least collect 'aplay -L' which is shorter but you will notice a difference (should be more playback devices than just a few digital outputs)
[16:40] <brkco> I will check both pa info and aplay -L and will pastebin them
[16:40] <i-garrison> brkco: you probably just need spare usb flash for livecd
[16:40] <yaglu> is anyone on dwm?....im using that rt now hoping it would reduce my memory footprint...but even though dwm takes up only about 5-10mb of memory...xorg is taking around 200megs...
[16:41] <i-garrison> brkco: I do not get the point about encrypted :)
[16:41] <brkco> i-garrison, thats sad if thats the case. I should have encrypted just part of the usb drive and not all. It is 64GB SAMSUNG awesome usb drive and I hope I don't brick it
[16:42] <i-garrison> brkco: better to be safe, find another one
[16:42] <brkco> I will just use the one that has win11 on it, it is what it is
[16:43] <hresco3> .
[16:44] <hresco3> I have used snap to install a couple of applications.  How do I now make those applications accessible from my menu?
[17:12] <arraybolt3> brkco: How exactly did you encrypt the drive? BitLocker? VeraCrypt? LUKS? Or does it support hardware encryption of some sort?
[17:15] <jhutchins> Renaming the cron file worked.
[17:26] <tomreyn> daulphin[m]: try adding a new openvpn connection profile using nmcli on the CLI. you can import an existing .ovpn / .conf openvpn configuration file there.
[17:27] <tomreyn> the (a?) fatal error related to your current profile appears to be: "Insufficient key material or header text not found in file '[[INLINE]]' (0/128/256 bytes found/min/max)"
[17:27] <tomreyn> seems seems to state that your current client key material is not found or not usable.
[17:56] <hresco3> I have used snap to install a couple of applications.  How do I now make those applications accessible from my menu?  And by menu, I guess I mean the launcher.
[17:57] <brkcore> still no sound on ubuntu 22.04
[17:59] <brkcore> I know its not a bug, because I had sound before
[18:00] <enigma9o7[m]> hresco: they should be there already, part of installing the snap adds the desktop file.  Perhaps restart your desktop (logout ad login) to be sure?
[18:00] <i-garrison> brkcore: some time in the past there was a change to hda driver which turned on "new" implementation; so if you had sound working before and did an upgrade that could be it; just file a bug and see what comes out of it
[18:01] <i-garrison> brkcore: sound working in windows does not count :)
[18:01] <hresco3> brkcore: try an `audiopulse -k`; maybe it is `pulseaudio -k`, I never can remember which.
[18:02] <hresco3> enigma9o7: thanks.  thought I might of tried that.  But perhaps not yet.
[18:03] <brkcore> i-garrison, I will
[18:04] <brkcore> maybe I have to try another kernal then. at the moment im with Linux core 5.15.0-33-generic #34-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 18 13:34:26 UTC 2022 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:05] <kzoli> hi
[18:05] <hresco3> once the menu is installed, though, where should I expect to see the menu files?
[18:05] <enigma9o7[m]> ~/.local/share/applications
[18:06] <kzoli> i get this error when booting my laptop: ACPI BIOS Error (bug): Failure creating named object [\_SB.PCI0.XHC.RHUB.HS06._UPC], AE_ALREADY_EXISTS (20210730/dswload2-326)
[18:06] <brkcore> atleast I have sound through bluetooth on the headphones
[18:06] <kzoli> 5.15.0-33-generic
[18:08] <kzoli> Ubuntu 22.04 LTS
[18:10] <hresco3> thank you enigma9o7++
[18:10] <hresco3> JzA!
[18:13] <hresco3> So, enigma9o7.  I am not seeing the three apps I installed using snap represented in that path, although some others are.  Should they already be there?  Is this a bug which should be filed against the packages?  Or do they only get copied in after I log out and log back in?
[18:17] <jhutchins> fa
[18:17] <rob0> so la ti do
[18:18] <tomreyn> kzoli: that's a bios bug, you can try to find an updated bios for your computer. running    journalctl -b | grep DMI:     should tell your model and current bios version
[18:20] <jhutchins> kzoli: Besides the message, are there any symptoms of something not working?
[18:21] <kzoli> everything is working
[18:23] <kzoli> desktop file is located in /var/lib/snapd/desktop/applications fro snapd applications, i think
[18:23] <kzoli> *for
[18:24] <webchat8> so a while ago i was trying to install katoolin which involved me adding the kali ppa, today I was excited to upgrade to 22.04. and instead I got moved on to the latest kali rolling borking my system
[18:24] <webchat8> anway to fix this without reinstalling?
[18:24] <leftyfb> webchat8: you are no longer running ubuntu. You need to reinstall
[18:25] <webchat8> noooo i was hoping this wasn't the case. but just for learning sake how do you know its not ubuntu anymore, because its not a full install of kali it did a partial and just borked
[18:26] <webchat8> like on about you see still the ubuntu symbol
[18:26] <leftyfb> webchat8: you are running a mix or kali and ubuntu, probably more kali at this point
[18:26] <leftyfb> do not add kali repositories next time
[18:27] <webchat8> yeah, thanks lesson learned.
[18:28] <VIA> leftyfb: my hero!
[18:32] <jhutchins> kzoli: So nothing's actually wrong, it's just some subsystem is duplicatin an effort that's already been taken care of.
[18:33] <kzoli> thanks
[18:33] <jhutchins> kzoli: If you were to try to eradicate all duplication of effort in a modern systemd boot sequence, you'd have a lot of work ahead of you (but a much faster boot).
[18:34] <kzoli> i am beginner for this
[18:35] <kzoli> may i question one more?
[18:35] <kzoli> nothing
[18:36] <kzoli> thank you, good bye !
[18:40] <webchat8> so out of curiosity is the best setup for using some of the kali tools just to use a flash drive with kali or VM?
[18:42] <leftyfb> !kali | webchat8
[18:42] <webchat8> ah apologies thanks for pointing me to the right direction
 "daulphin: try adding a new..." <- how can I do this please?
[18:59] <tomreyn> daulphin[m]: nmcli connection import
[19:03] <daulphin[m]> thank you, what should be the argument, the ovpn filename. If so I get error: invalid extra argument 'filename.ovpn' "
[19:09] <daulphin[m]> I used "nmcli connection import type openvpn file <filename.ovpn>"
[19:09] <daulphin[m]> It keeps asking me a password "Authentification required". Is this root paasword for Ubuntu or my VPN profile? Neither password worked
[19:10] <leftyfb> daulphin[m]: its your user password for the machine, similar when you type it in for logging in or for sudo
[19:10] <daulphin[m]> Weird, it doesn´t take it !
[19:11] <rob0> From whom did you get your "filename.ovpn" file, a VPN provider?  Or was it from your company IT?
[19:13] <rob0> Most personal VPN users want and expect a "full tunnel".  But most business users want a "split tunnel", with only specific traffic going through the VPN.
[19:13] <rob0> NM's openvpn implementation was originally written without this understanding.
[19:14] <rob0> It would override the routes pushed from the VPN server and make every VPN a full tunnel, wanted or not.
[19:15] <daulphin[m]> rob0: VPN provider, it has been working fine for more 4 years until I upgraded to Ubuntu 22.04
[19:15] <daulphin[m]> It looks like this version is not yet fine for me and I have to revert
[19:15] <rob0> So if yours is supposed to be a split tunnel you have to select that as an option.  I don't remember specifically what and where, but IIRC there is a checkbox.
[19:16] <rob0> ok, then NM should work for you.
[19:16] <daulphin[m]> I have always worked with NM
[19:16] <rob0> But an alternative is to set it up as a systemd service.
[19:16] <daulphin[m]> All my profiles have been added through the GUI interface
[19:17] <daulphin[m]> never had any problem, this is specific to 22.04
[19:17] <rob0> yeah, I deal mostly with business users, and NM has been buggy.
[19:18] <daulphin[m]> I don´t recall how to do it again but with this options, VPN doesn´t come back automatically after suspend or screen lock
[19:49] <daulphin[m]> Got it to work  rob0, many thanks.
[19:52] <daulphin[m]> It seems that to get VPN work in Ubuntu, one needs to add the profiles using either :... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/956ec5b4e0941818021a4162fdeac18acd063b89)
[19:52] <daulphin[m]> I appreciate your time and help
[19:54] <daulphin[m]>  * It seems that to get VPN work in Ubuntu 22.04, one needs to add the profiles using either :... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/8d797a3567c0783273124d142fe7f34a376ab336)
[20:05] <EriC^>  /nick EriC^^
[20:32] <transhumanist> https://bpa.st/2OSQ  << this script generates this error >> https://bpa.st/IA4Q    any ideas?
[20:32] <transhumanist> seems it thinks that /tmp/.X11-unix is not there even though it is, it cant see it inside the sandbox
[21:18] <transhumanist> sorry for the repeat, for any new comers https://bpa.st/2OSQ  << this script generates this error >> https://bpa.st/IA4Q    any ideas? seems it thinks that /tmp/.X11-unix is not there even though it is, it cant see it inside the sandbox
[21:21] <rob0> BTW a single paste is more convenient.
[21:22] <rob0> Nested Wayland compositor could not create display socket <-- do X11 commands like Xnest work on Wayland?
[21:23] <transhumanist> I was thinking it might be a wayland issue, I dont know though
[21:31] <transhumanist> rob0: seems I am not running wayland echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE = tty
[21:32] <leftyfb> transhumanist: you can run that over ssh
[21:32] <transhumanist> Yes for now I am trying to avoid ssh
[21:32] <transhumanist> I will eventually run it over ssh but want to see the difference
[21:33] <transhumanist> thanks by the way leftyfb for answering so many of my questions, its appreciated!~
[21:33] <transhumanist> same to you too rob0
[21:33] <leftyfb> transhumanist: if you're getting "tty" from "echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE" then you either aren't running a DE at all or you are ssh'd in or doing something silly with tty's
[21:34] <transhumanist> whats a DE?
[21:34] <leftyfb> desktop environment
[21:34] <transhumanist>  I dont know but I am definitely running a desktop environment with nvidia drivers
[21:35] <transhumanist> it could be my attempt at sandboxing in the script
[21:35] <leftyfb> "something silly"
[21:35] <leftyfb> namespaces?
[21:36] <transhumanist> ip name spaces , yes
[21:39] <transhumanist> leftyfb: trying this out and see what happens will need to reboot though systemctl set-default graphical.target
[22:45] <quackgyver> InPhase: Sorry for the late response, but I'll look into whether it's a software or hardware issue.
[22:45] <quackgyver> I'll do a reboot the next time it happens in order to troubleshoot whether it's a software issue that causes certain keyboard keys to not work.
[22:45] <quackgyver> Thanks for the fast response. :-)
[23:06] <transhumanist> hi leftyfb: I am getting further. Now I am getting https://bpa.st/FYKA but ONLY when trying to run epiphany not firefox or dillo
[23:06] <transhumanist> not much is said about either of the two errors listed