[00:02] <oerheks> if it is UEFI, AMD A9 cpu ...
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[01:42] <jhutchins> dunbrokin: There is often a physical "key" required to unlock the BIOS password.  Sometimes it's as simple as a jumper on the motherboard, other options include a specially built loop-back plug for the parallel port.
[01:42] <jhutchins> dunbrokin: You might be up against something like that.
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[04:49] <QuestionMark> hi
[04:51] <QuestionMark> im install ubuntu 22.04 in a hp laptop with windows 10, but when reboot show a BSOD and need to select UEFI Reboot option in orden to start ububtu
[04:52] <QuestionMark> how can i delete windows and start just with ubuntu
[04:53] <arraybolt3> QuestionMark: Easiest way is to reinstall Ubuntu from scratch using the Erase Disk option.
[04:53] <arraybolt3> Careful - this will wipe EVERYTHING on the computer and replace it with a brand-new Ubuntu installation.
[04:54] <QuestionMark> thanks arraybolt3 , but i cant start from the usb drive anymore
[04:54] <arraybolt3> If you have data you care about, save it to an external drive first.
[04:54] <arraybolt3> QuestionMark: Turn the computer all the way off. Insert the USB drive, then turn the computer on and hit Esc (or another key indicated by your system) over and over during early boot. From there you should be able to select a boot menu, then select the flash drive.
[04:55] <arraybolt3> (This should work on EFI systems - if you don't have a Boot Menu option on your system, let me know what manufacturer and model your system is.)
[04:55] <QuestionMark> gonna try again
[04:55] <descent1> esc for hp
[04:55] <QuestionMark> HP 240 G8
[04:56] <QuestionMark> F10 works for the BIOS
[04:56] <QuestionMark> ce ya !
[04:57] <descent1> oh yeah i think f10 hp..whoops
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[04:58] <arraybolt3> descent1: Esc works for me.
[04:58] <descent1> ah cool
[04:58] <arraybolt3> On an Elitebook 8570p, a Z220 SFF workstation, and a Pavilion something-or-other.
[04:58] <arraybolt3> And I think it even works on an old Compaq I have around here (I think Compaq and HP are the same now?)
[04:59] <descent1> haha cool
[04:59] <descent1> i have a pavillion 8400 i5
[04:59] <descent1> the cpu anyways
[05:00] <arraybolt3> Must be nice! All my stuff is pretty old (my desktop is rocking a 3rd or 4th gen Xeon, and used to run Windows 8.0...)
[05:01] <descent1> yeah its a pretty fast cpu 6 cores no ht 16gb ram
[05:02] <arraybolt3> QuestionMark: Any progress?
[05:02] <QuestionMark> hi again
[05:03] <QuestionMark> nop, i cant boot from the usb drive
[05:03] <arraybolt3> It doesn't show up in the boot menu, I'm guessing?
[05:03] <oerheks> uefi system? disable fast boot.
[05:03] <QuestionMark> i was disable secure boot
[05:04] <oerheks> secureboot is fine.
[05:04] <arraybolt3> QuestionMark: In the BIOS, set the boot order to put the flash drive first. https://support.hp.com/in-en/document/ish_3891464-2337914-16 Then try to boot from it.
[05:04] <QuestionMark> im need start  ububtu install setup into ubuntu, like wubi but in linux
[05:04] <QuestionMark> boot order its ok
[05:05] <arraybolt3> QuestionMark: That doesn't exists AFAIK. Maybe you should redownload the Ubuntu ISO and flash it to the USB using Startup Disk Creator?
[05:05] <QuestionMark> windows try to restore te system and block usb start
[05:05] <arraybolt3> (It's possible that it's the USB drive's fault.)
[05:05] <arraybolt3> Oh, I know what you're talking about, I think!
[05:05] <QuestionMark> i can see my usb drive, but i cant boot from them
[05:05] <arraybolt3> Hold down the Shift key when you power down Windows. I think you're running into Fast Startup.
[05:06] <oerheks> sure you can, you did this before.
[05:06] <QuestionMark> good tip arraybolt3 , i gonna try again
[05:06] <arraybolt3> Like, boot into Windows, click the Start Button, hover (or click on?) the power button, then hold down Shift, and while holding Shift, click the Shut down button.
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[06:04] <webchat61> Hi!
[06:04] <webchat61> I am not entirely sure if this is the correct channel to ask, so if it is not I apologize and would ask you to point me in the right direction.
[06:04] <webchat61> I have two problems running Ubuntu 22.04 in my VM explained in detail here: https://communities.vmware.com/t5/VMware-Workstation-Pro/Workstation-Pro-16-2-3-Pick-your-Poison-gt-Massive-Input-Lag-or/td-p/2911264
[06:04] <webchat61> TLDR: I either enable hardware acceleration for my VM and see rendering issues in Chrome and IntelliJ or I turn hardware acceleration off and experience a massive input lag. It seems that it even got worse after the latest round of updates.
[06:04] <webchat61> Does anyone else have these problems?
[06:04] <webchat61> Are there any known workarounds?
[06:07] <oerheks> webchat61, more an issue for #vmware ?
[06:11] <webchat61> Well, I am not sure. VMWare support said they couldn't reproduce the issue and that since "Ubuntu 22.04 has ben recently released it hasn't been fully tested yet"... So I am trying my luck here.
[06:11] <webchat61> oerheks thanks for the suggestion though, I will post there as well.
[06:16] <oerheks> webchat61, else post on askubuntu?
[07:03] <pagios> hey guys, whar do you think about this book to understand browser security ? https://www.amazon.de/Tangled-Web-Securing-Modern-Applications/ does it still apply?
[07:12] <oerheks> pagios, no, as it is a dead url
[07:13] <oerheks> this pages says 2011...  https://www.amazon.nl/Tangled-Web-Securing-Modern-Applications/dp/1593273886
[07:13] <pagios> yea does it still apply
[07:13] <oerheks> nope, 2011?
[07:13] <oerheks> 11 years ago ..
[07:56] <gneeriiloeepdeer> Im using okular to study. Its a great tool because I can annotate and highlight text. However, I can only highlight in 2 colors, green and yellow. Is there something that allows the user to use more colors?
[07:56] <gneeriiloeepdeer> an expansion package?
[08:06] <confuseus> i am getting these messages since yesterday i think "pending update of ["chromium"|"firefox"] snap. close the app to avoid further disruptions (13 days left). am on ubuntu 22.04. not sure what i am supposed to do. close the app for how long? i closed them and reopened the messages did not go away. i also tried snap refresh...
[08:35] <ogra> confuseus, there are still some rough edges around the snap update control ... especially that it does not tell you to run "sudo snap refresh" (or offer a button that can do this without oprning a terminal)  ... close the app, open a terminal, run the refresh command and you will be good
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[08:37] <confuseus> thanks. i saw that when closed them and done snap refresh they both refreshed. so, i hope it' resolved now
[08:39] <deadrom> leftyfb, how's lxd different from esxi? I need bare metal for reasons. (yesterday asked about recovery options for an LTS, you mentioned lxd)
[08:39] <deadrom> oh, container. nvm.
[08:41] <imi> hi, how do I list the snap packages that can be updated?
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[08:59] <sophie> imi: snap refresh --list
[09:06] <gneeriiloeepdeer> each time I start ubuntu I get: Pending update of firefox snap, close the app to avoid disruptions (13 dys left), but ff is already updated to 100
[09:07] <gneeriiloeepdeer> I already shut ff yesterday, upon this prompt, but nothing changed...
[09:08] <oerheks> gneeriiloeepdeer, see answer ogra; sudo snap refresh
[09:08] <oerheks> might work for you too
[09:08] <gneeriiloeepdeer> I can execute that command, but do you mean user ogra from this channel?
[09:09] <oerheks> ogra from this channel, and yes, executing that command should do no harm
[09:09] <gneeriiloeepdeer> all snaps up to date
[09:09] <gneeriiloeepdeer> and that prompt appeared again...
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[09:09] <oerheks> firefox in 22.04 is 101 now
[09:10] <gneeriiloeepdeer> curious: mine is 100.0.2
[09:10] <oerheks> remove firefox / chromium and reinstall?
[09:10] <gneeriiloeepdeer> dammit
[09:10] <ogra> try "sudo snap refresh firefox" then
[09:10] <oerheks> i think 101.2 https://snapcraft.io/firefox
[09:11] <oerheks> if not, something is terrably behind..
[09:12] <ogra> i think firefox gets phased updates due to the sheer amount of users it has ... some might still be behind then until the phasing is finished
[09:13] <gneeriiloeepdeer> I don't see how snaps is better than deb. With deb, my machine downloaded the stuff automatically. I only had to accept the changes.
[09:13] <gneeriiloeepdeer> now I have to intruct the machine to update?
[09:14] <gneeriiloeepdeer> and thanks ogra , your command worked
[09:14] <ogra> no, you could just wait 13 days and it would just update quietly
[09:14] <gneeriiloeepdeer> oh
[09:14] <ogra> it is to prevent you from having the app open while it gets updated (which means the data dirs change underneath the open app, which is not a go idea)
[09:15] <ogra> but the refresh control stuff is brand new and not 100% yet ... there will be soething lie an "update now" button in the notification eventually ... or something similar
[09:16] <ogra> s/g👋good/
[09:16] <ogra> bah ...
[09:16]  * ogra curses hexchats emoji plugin
[09:16] <gneeriiloeepdeer> I see, still migrating
[09:19] <gneeriiloeepdeer> ogra, when I execute 'firefox' in my CLI, my system needs 5 seconds to show the app. Is this going to be addressed or is this the new normal?
[09:23] <ogra> gneeriiloeepdeer, the most complained-about bug and being workd on with full throttle :) https://ubuntu.com/blog/how-are-we-improving-firefox-snap-performance-part-1
[09:23] <ogra> gneeriiloeepdeer, note that it only happens after boot or after refresh on first start ... all subsequent starts should be in the sub-3-sec realm
[09:24] <descent1> what causes it
[09:25] <ogra> that's the million dollar question 🙂 (funnily the chromium snap does not expose it)
[09:31] <descent1> well sometimes i would click firefox it wouldnt load, then click it again it would
[09:33] <descent1> i was using a hard drive too
[09:33] <descent1> maybe it was too slow
[09:35] <ogra> i'd guess it was already starting and your second click just went into nirvana
[09:36] <ogra> but yeah, rotary drives seem to have some impact ... AMD graphics cards seem to have some too based on the data that has been collected yet ... https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/known-issues-with-firefox-snap/24663
[09:37] <descent1> it acted like it was starting on the top bar in gnome de it would say firefox top left then disappear
[09:37] <descent1> ah
[09:38] <ogra> it will be fixed before the .1 release of 22.04
[09:38] <descent1> cool
[09:38] <ogra> (at least thats the target AFAIK)
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[09:57] <gcds> Hi, maybe someone could help me with ubuntu server netplan stuff, I am going bald from trying to figure out what is wrong. Context: I have network 10.93.0.0/16 the server has a bridge with one interface and static IP address of 10.93.2.2/16, everything generates and works but for some reason I can't access anything higher than 10.93.127.254, I
[09:57] <gcds> tried adding a static route for 10.93.0.0/16 via 10.93.0.1 but didn't help, but then I removed default generated route which looked suspicious to me (the 10.93.0.0/16 via 10.93.2.2 in the paste) and it worked then, I would consider it's done but I know it's not permanent so maybe can help me figure out whats wrong with netplan so I would not need
[09:57] <gcds> to make changes after each reboot? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kPrPBwPQBx/
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> gcds: try #ubuntu-server where the server experts gather
[10:02] <gcds> lotuspsychje thanks!
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[11:17] <WeeBey98> Good morning frens!
[11:18] <WeeBey98> Which would be the preferred method to stop a fresh installation from performing ANY updates? (and never update automatically)?
[11:19] <matsaman> Debian
[11:19] <WeeBey98> disabling apt-daily ?
[11:19] <WeeBey98> matsaman, lol; Debian does not perform auto updates?
[11:20] <matsaman> don't think so
[11:20] <matsaman> not by default
[11:20] <matsaman> https://linuxconfig.org/disable-automatic-updates-on-ubuntu-22-04-jammy-jellyfish-linux
[11:21] <WeeBey98> matsaman, thanks. I'll give this a shot. I'll be likely using LTS 18.04.
[11:21] <WeeBey98> Hope it works. If not, maybe I'll try Debian!
[11:21] <WeeBey98> :-)
[11:24] <WeeBey98> Another question then. If I download 18.04 from Ubuntu website, does it have updates already installed? Or is it the original 2018 18.04 ISO? I can see the last modified for the iso is 2021... that's why I am asking.
[11:25] <matsaman> WeeBey98: if you're downloading now, I don't know why you'd choose 18 and not 22.04
[11:25] <bittin> 18.4.6 updated 17:th September 2021: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2021-September/000272.html last time
[11:25] <bittin> but you can update it via apt
[11:25] <matsaman> WeeBey98: the .6 is the revision from the original, in that case
[11:26] <WeeBey98> bittin, ah! Ok. thank you for the clarification.
[11:26] <bittin> np
[11:26] <WeeBey98> Ok, I will look for the original.
[11:27] <bittin> not sure why you don't want a more updated image?
[11:27] <matsaman> https://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/bionic/
[11:28] <WeeBey98> matsaman, Just had arrived at that page.
[11:28] <matsaman> WeeBey98: sure sure sure =)
[11:28] <WeeBey98> bittin, I have a security course assignment and I need unpatched software.
[11:28] <bittin> ah
[11:28] <bittin> i see
[11:29] <WeeBey98> so, if I find the original file, it will save me from having to find and install older libs manually
[11:29] <matsaman> it could, theoretically
[11:30] <WeeBey98> Right! matsaman I am hoping that my theory is correct. :D
[11:30] <WeeBey98> You are very helpful. Thanks so much!
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[12:09] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:10] <deadrom> Heya
[12:19] <transhumanist> system_key.go:154: cannot determine cgroup version: cannot determine cgroup version: cannot statfs path: no such file or directory twm:  unable to open fontset "-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal   << I have narrowed this error down to sandboxing browsers while the browser is installed with snaps. Anyone know a fix?
[12:20] <transhumanist> noone ever answers from snappy forum or snappy channel
[12:25] <transhumanist> I just figured out its a problem with systemd and is going to be fixed in the next version (well a similar error) https://github.com/containers/podman/issues/7562   , can I install systemd from source and expect it to work ok?
[12:25] <ubottu> Issue 7562 in containers/podman "rootless podman containers Error: unable to obtain cgroup stats:" [Closed]
[12:27] <transhumanist> forget it , I think its too risky an upgrade
[12:41] <chrfle> Hello, I'm trying to get ccache to work across different directories. I have set base_dir to /home/chrfle ... if I make clean && make then it uses the ccache to speed it up, but if copy this director and make clean && make in the new directory, I get 100% cache miss.. Any advice what I've done wrong, or how I can debug it
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[15:06] <SpeedStick> hello hope someone can help i'm trying to get gnome shell integration to work on Ubuntu 22.04 and i'm having issues
[15:07] <SpeedStick> I've installed everything and when I go to the gnome extension website its telling me "Although GNOME Shell integration extension is running, native host connector is not detected. Refer documentation for instructions about installing connector."
[15:08] <oerheks> yes, there is no tool anymore to auto detect your gnome version to get the plugin
[15:09] <oerheks> so, install the plugin for your browser, see https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-gnome-shell-extensions-on-ubuntu-22-04-jammy-jellyfish-linux-desktop
[15:09] <oerheks> and then you can do what you like
[15:10] <SpeedStick> thank you i'll go ahead and try it
[15:12] <SpeedStick> so i'm not getting the switch on gnome extension
[15:12] <oerheks> restart browser ?
[15:15] <SpeedStick> oerheks: I was using brave and for some reason it wasn't working right on brave but I started up chrome and it worked (I restarted browser etc) thank you
[15:15] <oerheks> SpeedStick, have fun!
[15:19] <xu-help45w34> How to use proxy servers and VPNs in Ubuntu for getting access to sites? I'm stuck since I can't get access...
[15:20] <xu-help45w34> Or any other methods to get access to a site...
[15:27] <oerheks> there are tons of manuals/howtos for a proxy, with a vpn i don't know.. https://www.webservertalk.com/configure-proxy-on-ubuntu
[15:32] <transhumanist> so how do I compile with linux-um-noemu on ubunt 22.04 on x64  do I need to install a package, I get a make error  *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[15:33] <oerheks> transhumanist, what is linux-um-noemu?
[15:36] <ravage> no google results :D
[15:36] <transhumanist> nm I think I figured it out
[15:37] <xu-help45w34> oerheks, thank you! It's useful, but it seems I also have to find a working proxy/vpn which is honestly harder to find
[15:42] <oerheks> there are no good free VPN services
[15:42] <oerheks> so, pay for it or run one yourself
[15:44] <xu-help45w34_pho> oerheks, sorry but it just isn't true. I've been using a ton of free VPN services and all of them were working great
[15:44] <xu-help45w34_pho> Forgot to add: in Androis
[15:46] <xu-help45w34_pho> The only difference is probably that usually VPN in Android works through its own app.
[15:48] <oerheks> choice of vpn is not an ubuntu support issue, what i said about free vpn was just a warning
[15:48] <oerheks> good luck!
[15:50] <goddard> how can i check firmware version for elan fingerprint reader?
[15:50] <goddard> fprintd isn't working for me
[15:50] <goddard> i wanna see if it needs an update or something
[15:50] <xu-help45w34_pho> oerheks, I realise the facts you are talking about :) I think it's kind of OS issue that an ordinary user has trouble getting possibilities which are easily obtainable in Android.
[15:51] <oerheks> goddard, check https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/ubuntu/fingerprint-gui and https://fprint.freedesktop.org/supported-devices.html
[15:51] <oerheks> if your fingerprint device is supported
[15:51] <goddard> oerheks: thanks
[15:52] <oerheks> else, if it is listed, check for a bios update?
[15:52] <goddard> oerheks: yep its supported
[15:52] <goddard> 04f3:0c11
[15:52] <goddard> oerheks: ill check that
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[16:27] <mjg_> hi. i recently updated focal to jammy and ssh-agent stopped being automatically started. from grepping around it should come from gnome-keyring
[16:28] <mjg_> gnome keyring starts for --components=secrets, just not ssh
[16:28] <mjg_> any ideas what's up? i did not modify /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-ssh.desktop fwiw
[16:37] <mjg_> i can work around it by manually starting gnome-keyring-daemon
[17:15] <Hans_Zero> Hi,
[17:15] <Hans_Zero> I have this weird problem while using ubuntu via citrix where my shift keys do work as for writing uppercase letters and symbols and they do work as part of shortcut combinations (e.g. ctrl+shift+v) but they do not work for selecting strings (e.g. shift+right, shift+pageup) unless capslock is active.
[17:15] <Hans_Zero> And I googled a truck load of related problems and I'm confident, that this is indeed an Ubuntu problem and not for example citrix, but I'm totally lost if I go to the forums with this or write a bug report and to which category to apply.
[18:00] <bancroft> I sub to all the security advisories, and in there they say "upgrade to version 8:6.9.7.4+dfsg-16ubuntu6.13 to no longer be vulnerable". How can you tell what version you're on? This particular case is for imagemagick (or rather, imagetragick). When I run convert --version I have something lik 6.9.7 and not 8:6.9.7.4_...
[18:03] <alkisg> dpkg -l imagemagick => 8:6.9.11.60+dfsg-1.3build2
[18:03] <alkisg> The 8: in front is called the "epoch", it's a packaging trick needed when version updates have been jumpy in the past
[18:04] <alkisg> So convert --version is the upstream version, while dpkg -l tells you the debian package version
[18:04] <bancroft> I see, thanks for that :)
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> bancroft: https://ubuntu.com/security/notices/USN-5456-1
[18:36] <QuestionMark> Hi guys
[18:49] <bancroft> hi ?
[18:49] <sarnold> hello
[19:03] <morganu> hello back y'all: is there a routine that can tell if the connection to the enternet drops and reforms in under a second. (I see that on a stream, and didnt used to see that.)
[19:03] <morganu> 20.04
[19:06] <morganu> or do I call the cracker, uh I mean Spectrum, aka Charter in soCal.
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[19:08] <sarnold> morganu: ip monitor  can spot some kinds of things like that; often people will run something like smokeping or write similar tools for checking latency / connectivity ..
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[19:22] <Guest89> Hey, just installed 22.04 and wanted to setup wireguard. When trying to connect, it complains about not able to use resolvconf. Shouldn't systemd-resolved take this part and should be usable?
[19:26] <tomreyn> Guest89: by "complain", are you referring to a warning message? if so, which? how did you install wireguard?
[19:26] <jhutchins> morganu: What exactly do you "see" on a stream?  Dropping and re-negotiating a connection takes more than a second.
[19:27] <Guest89> tomreyn: I installed the wireguard metapackage and complains (I guess errors out) as he removes the eth device after that
[19:28] <Guest89> tomreyn: https://paste.debian.net/1242725/ this is when i sudo wg-quick up wg0
[19:29] <tomreyn> Guest89: i see. this looks like a packaging error in case this is the official wireguard package for 22.04.
[19:30] <Guest89> tomreyn: ahh which means resolvconf should be installed with wireguard?
[19:30] <tomreyn> Guest89: that's what i assume needs to happen, just based on the message you shared.
[19:31] <tomreyn> another option would be to edit / rewrite the wg-quick script, i guess
[19:31] <Guest89> tomreyn yeah interesting. I thought it would conflict with systemd-resolved, which it doesnt
[19:34] <tomreyn> Guest89: https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/wireguard-tools is the userland tooling that's in main in jammy (22.04), it recommends openresolv or resolvconf
[19:34] <tomreyn> sugggests, not recommends, sorry
[19:35] <tomreyn> and that's probably the actual issue here.
[19:35] <Guest89> ahh thanks :)
[19:35] <Guest89> and btw, shouldn't network manager handle wireguard? when I go to network settings (gnome) I can't add a wireguard config
[19:37] <bahamat> Hey all. I also recently installed ubuntu 22.04, and am trying to use RDP. It seems like it only works when someone's actively using the directly attached X? If the screen is locked I can connect. Is there a way to make it always available?
[19:37] <morganu> easy question: in 20.04 can I snap 2 (or more) windows to fill the screen?
[19:38] <Guest89> morganu yes, just drag them to the side, as the top would maximize them
[19:38] <tomreyn> Guest89: usually, network-manager support for additional protocols such as VPNs are packaged separately (in universe) as extensions / plugins. but none seems to exist for wireguard in jammy.
[19:39] <Guest89> tomreyn it was integrated with nm in 1.24 or so. since then I can't find it
[19:40] <ioria> Guest89, try 'nm-connection-editor'
[19:41] <tomreyn> Guest89: apparently you're supposed to import its configuration file into NM as you would for openvpn
[19:41] <Guest89> hm let me try that tomreyn
[19:41] <tomreyn> https://blogs.gnome.org/thaller/2019/03/15/wireguard-in-networkmanager/ (very old 2019 article, may no longer apply)
[19:43] <Guest89> tomreyn hm, when using nm on the cli, why would I ever do that and not just push the config into the direct directory :/  let's see if it's somehow possible with the gui
[19:43] <tomreyn> i concur with ioria about how to configure it graphically. wireguard support is part of network-manager core, no need for plugins/extensions/extra packages.
[19:44] <tomreyn> https://www.xmodulo.com/wireguard-vpn-network-manager-gui.html
[19:46] <Guest89> ugh, k thanks tomreyn and ioria, sadly it seems like it's not possible to just import the conf files, you would need to set it up :(
[19:48] <tomreyn> why does it not seem to be possible?
[19:48] <Guest89> tomreyn when I try to import the conf file, it complains that it's not a correct conf (I assume because it's expecting a openvpn config)
[19:50] <tomreyn> hmm, maybe the "type wireguard" is not being passed to the backend by the GUI then: nmcli connection import type wireguard file "wg0.conf"
[20:05] <Guest89> tomreyn thanks, seems like wireguard is still not ready for the masses (was looking something for my parents) but I can't activate the connection in any gui way.
[20:06] <Guest89> and honestly, why would the vpn activate directly when you import the config file ...
[20:07] <tomreyn> Guest89: i have no personal experience with using wireguard through a GUI on 22.04, can't comment.
[20:08] <Guest89> tomreyn thanks anyways :)
[20:09] <Guest89> tomreyn btw, do you happen to know if it's an extension or builtin that when you have a vpn connection that it shows in the menu in the right corner (gnome)
[20:11] <tomreyn> Guest89: i do not know for sure, but would assume this to be part of network-manager-gnome directly, since this is what wireguard support is in.
[20:12] <Guest89> tomreyn huh, oh well. I will play with it some more, but seems like I need to go back to ovpn then, as nm doesn't seem to play well with wg
[20:14] <BadAtom> Guest89: if you have the wireguard and wireguard-tools packages installed, you should be able to do the full set-up in network-manager
[21:10] <Guest89> another question, I tried to use machinectl, which errored out while pull-tar with permission denied. now I can't delete the directory it created under /var/lib/machines (even root is not enough oO) any idea how I would go about to delete that?
[21:50] <QuestionMark> Hi guys
[21:51] <matsaman> hi
[21:54] <Guest89> hm even using a live usb doesn't help in deleting the directory https://paste.debian.net/1242741/ anybody got any idea?
[21:55] <Guest89> hm, even using a live usb doesn't help in deleting the directory, somebody got any idea? https://paste.debian.net/1242741/
[21:56] <sarnold> Guest89: look for 'i' in the chattr(1) manpage
[21:56] <Guest89> sarnold thanks :)
[21:56] <sarnold> Guest89: if it's something else I'd be very curious to hear it :) hehe
[21:57] <matsaman> Guest89: smells a bit like a mount
[21:57] <matsaman> mount | fgrep '#tar43'
[21:58] <Guest89> sarnold thanks worked perfectly :)
[21:58] <Guest89> matsaman chattr helped :)
[21:58] <Guest89> now I have to figure out why I got a permission denied when pulling a tar into machinectl :/
[21:59] <matsaman> cool
[22:06] <Guest89> does reportbug report a bug to debian or ubuntu? it's a bug in systemd, and it got never backported to 249, which sadly 22.04 is on
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[23:09] <goddard> why am i getting an issue running nvidia-smi
[23:09] <goddard> NVIDIA-SMI has failed because it couldn't communicate with the NVIDIA driver. Make sure that the latest NVIDIA driver is installed and running.
[23:09] <goddard> nvidia is installed
[23:10] <arraybolt3[m]> goddard: How did you install the nVidia drivers?
[23:10] <goddard> with the drivers gui
[23:11] <goddard> i always get this issue
[23:11] <arraybolt3[m]> Do you mean the "Additional Drivers" tab of Software Sources, or do you mean the nVidia installer script provided by nVidia themselves?
[23:11] <goddard> yes
[23:11] <arraybolt3[m]> The first one?
[23:11] <goddard> yes
[23:11] <arraybolt3[m]> Hmm. OK, well, are other applications able to use your GPU?
[23:12] <arraybolt3[m]> (Also, what GPU are you using? GTX 1050 Ti? Or...?)
[23:13] <goddard> 3080
[23:13] <goddard> nope
[23:14] <arraybolt3[m]> Hmm. What driver version are you using? You might need to try a different driver.
[23:15] <goddard> 510
[23:15] <goddard> it was working previously
[23:15] <goddard> i always get this issue
[23:15] <goddard> if you have cuda and you upgrade your nvidia driver it puts cuda on the uninstallable list and then i have to totally reinstall the driver
[23:16] <goddard> if you sudo apt autoremove you just nuke your ability to use cuda/nvidia
[23:16] <goddard> What is the correct way to install cuda and still be able to handle upgrades?
[23:17] <arraybolt3[m]> ?! That's really weird. Someone else appears to have had a similar problem to you and was able to fix it by manually installing the nVidia drivers with the .run script. This is generally a bad idea, but it might work in your situation. https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/nvidia-smi-has-failed-because-it-couldnt-communicate-with-the-nvidia-driver-make-sure-that-the-latest-nvidia-driver-is-installed-and-running/197141/7 Make backups and
[23:17] <arraybolt3[m]> be prepared to reinstall your Ubuntu system if you're going to do stuff like this.
[23:17] <goddard> ya probably works on the run script because that pins the version
[23:19] <arraybolt3[m]> Oh hey, do you have Secure Boot disabled on your system?
[23:21] <goddard> no
[23:22] <arraybolt3[m]> Some people reported that disabling Secure Boot fixed the problem.
[23:23] <sarnold> o_O
[23:23] <sarnold> did they install drivers from not-ubuntu or something?
[23:24] <arraybolt3[m]> I dunno, but I do know that Secure Boot and nVidia can have some serious problems when you put them together if you don't go through some crazy MOK signing process. And Secure Boot doesn't actually help computer security all that much, anyway.
[23:25] <arraybolt3[m]> If you're unable to get nVidia to work at all, and you're using Secure Boot on your system, that's likely the problem, in which case the easiest solution would be to disable Secure Boot.
[23:26] <arraybolt3[m]> sarnold: Oh, I got you and goddard mixed up...
[23:26] <arraybolt3[m]> (Matrix gave you both a green icon with a blue name...)
[23:26] <sarnold> booooooo
[23:27]  * sarnold kicks matrix
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[23:33] <goddard> haha
[23:34] <goddard> im just gonna reinstall
[23:34] <goddard> see if that resolves that issue
[23:34] <goddard> turn it off and turn it on again
[23:34] <goddard> solves all problems
[23:34] <arraybolt3[m]> OK. If Ubuntu tells you anything about MOK keys, go ahead and do the thing it tells you. That should give you a chance with Secure Boot.
[23:38] <goddard> thanks will do