[05:00] <sm> yikes.. something broke with my multipass  on mac, maybe since upgrading to 1.9.1. Connections to an existing instance would break after a minute or so. Stopped the instance, now starting it hangs/times out.
[05:01] <sm> any ideas ? 
[05:02] <sm> also start -v, list -v don't show any extra detail
[05:05] <sm> and, how can you inspect the image, size etc. of a stopped image ?
[05:05] <sm> stopped instance
[05:30] <sm> https://github.com/canonical/multipass/issues/2604
[05:45] <Saviq> Hi sm, you're likely victim of https://github.com/canonical/multipass/issues/2387#issuecomment-1141108886
[05:47] <Saviq> sm: the problem is the macOS firewall - turning it off (or toggling off/on), toggling Internet Sharing, reboots, all those have (randomly) helped users… sorry we've not more info, but macOS isn't helpful at all in this
[05:54] <sm> thanks Saviq ! I'll pursue that
[07:26] <sm> a lot to read here, am I right in thinking that `pgrep -fil bootp` showing nothing is a problem ?
[07:34] <Saviq> sm: Not really, no, since it's started on demand
[08:08] <sm> rats
[08:41] <sm> Saviq: do you know of any command that can quickly indicate whether the problem is active ? I guess not ?
[08:42] <sm> currently I am running `multipass start` from the stopped state and looking for any change in the log. But not sure if I'm waiting long enough for a valid test.
[08:43] <sm> no joy from upgrading to monterey 12.4, toggling internet sharing, or turning off firewall :/
[08:50] <Saviq> sm: if we did know…
[08:51] <Saviq> There's the `tcpdump` command that at least can confirm that's the problem
[09:29] <sm> thanks, out of power for mac now but will try that next
[15:33] <sm> This tcpdump output during `mp start` indicates the problem is happening I think ?... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/521eb6a96b8f3070bb99bf41ce5000ce203a2af9)
[15:35] <sm> hmm, this does not match https://github.com/canonical/multipass/issues/2583#issuecomment-1134802909 though
[15:37] <sm> hmm, after `multipass stop` I can no longer run this tcpdump command until after running `multipass start`, since bridge100 doesn't exist