[05:39] <didrocks> good morning
[05:46] <bittin> morning
[06:23] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:42] <didrocks> hey oSoMoN 
[06:47] <jibel> Good morning all
[06:49] <didrocks> salut jibel 
[06:59] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks, jibel 
[07:41] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[07:46] <oSoMoN> salut seb128, ça va?
[07:52] <seb128> oSoMoN, salut, nickel! et toi ?
[07:54] <didrocks> salut seb128
[07:55] <seb128> lut didrocks! c'est la forme ?
[07:58] <didrocks> ça va :)
[08:03] <oSoMoN> seb128, ça va!
[08:03] <oSoMoN> it's a very French morning on IRC :)
[08:11]  * schopin pokes out his head too :)
[09:43] <ricotz> hello everyone
[09:45] <seb128> ricotz, hey ricotz, how are you doing?
[09:46] <ricotz> seb128, hey, all good, looks like a happy and sunny friday :)
[09:47] <ricotz> seb128, how is the french connection doing? ;P
[09:48] <seb128> ricotz, doing alright, it's a sunny friday here also and monday is an holiday so let's hope it's a nice long weekend :)
[09:49] <seb128> getting frustrated at libsdl2 failing on arm64 builders meanwhile but not on a virtual ppa or a cloud instance
[09:50] <seb128> I tried to push some hacks to get a stacktrace on the builder, including installing systemd-coredump and doing a dmesg but that isn't working, I call called gdb in non interactive mode but it didn't segfault :-/
[09:50] <ricotz> I see :(, there are some more unhappy packages like tiff, cups and librsvg
[09:51] <ricotz> heisen-bugs are the best :(
[09:53]  * ricotz goes for lunch
[09:54] <seb128> librsvg is probably similar to https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/librsvg/-/issues/724
[09:55] <seb128> ' There are certainly differences in 80-bit floating-point operations as in i386, versus 64-bit floats on SSE'
[09:55] <seb128> :-(
[11:13] <jbicha> happy Friday!
[11:19] <seb128> jbicha, hey happy friday to you!
[11:21] <jbicha> seb128: what does the part about pipewire-pulse mean in bug 1949776 ?
[11:22] <jbicha> because wireplumber currently Recommends pipewire-pulse
[11:23] <seb128> jbicha, the MIR was opened previous cycle because we needed pipewire for remote desktop and screen sharing but we still had pulseaudio as the sound server
[11:23] <seb128> but then we decided to stick to pipewire-media-session because it made easier to disable the audio part
[11:23] <jbicha> oh, got it!
[11:24] <seb128> jbicha, thanks for pointing it out, I deleted that part of the description now
[11:24] <jbicha> I'm adding wireplumber as a Depends for ubuntu-desktop-minimal now
[11:30] <seb128> jbicha, you can restore the libspa-0.2-bluetooth R while you are at it I think
[11:31] <seb128> jbicha, the libldac MIR also got a +1 today
[11:41] <MiLeon> hello
[11:42] <MiLeon> i have a problem with a installation from ubuntu 22.04 on a Lenovo L470. the installation stopps with E/A error. I have replaced with a other ssd, but same problem
[11:42] <diddledani> MiLeon: this is a developers channel, for support you want #ubuntu
[11:43] <MiLeon> ah ok thank you
[12:03] <RikMills> oSoMoN: how do you install the experimental firefox snap with the native messaging host portal support?
[13:23] <oSoMoN> RikMills, you need to get the snap from there: https://launchpad.net/~osomon/+snap/firefox-native-messaging
[13:23] <oSoMoN> it's not published in the store yet
[13:23] <oSoMoN> (disclaimer: it hasn't been rebuilt in a while, I'll fix that)
[13:24] <KGB-2> gnome-shell-extensions signed tags f4b65d4 Jeremy Bicha upstream/42.2 * Upstream version 42.2 * https://deb.li/TRJM
[13:24] <KGB-2> gnome-shell-extensions pristine-tar eeafaca Jeremy Bicha gnome-shell-extensions_42.2.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-shell-extensions_42.2.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-shell-extensions_42.2.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3qRrU
[13:27] <schopin> oSoMoN: status report: upstream master doesn't have the bug, bisecting to find the fix but that has been taking forever.
[13:29] <oSoMoN> schopin, ok. I feel your pain, I know from experience that bisecting failures on large packages is a time-consuming and frustrating process.
[13:35] <schopin> Well at least I *can* bisect and hope to find a patch. I really wouldn't want to have to come up with a solve by my lonesome.
[13:38] <RikMills> oSoMoN: aha, and thanks
[13:58] <KGB-0> aisleriot signed tags ab7be55 Jeremy Bicha upstream/3.22.23 * Upstream version 3.22.23 * https://deb.li/3OXLN
[13:58] <KGB-0> aisleriot upstream/latest dce1d6b Jeremy Bicha * pushed 25 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/38OVg
[13:58] <KGB-0> aisleriot upstream/latest 803a4df Christian Persch (6 files in 3 dirs) * cards: Add Ancient French card deck * https://deb.li/H2kG
[13:58] <KGB-0> aisleriot upstream/latest af6592d Christian Persch (5 files in 3 dirs) * cards: Add Simplistic card deck * https://deb.li/3ScqM
[13:58] <KGB-0> aisleriot upstream/latest 0a44839 Christian Persch cards/meson.build src/window.c cards/README.anglo_modern cards/anglo_modern.svg * cards: Add Anglo Modern card deck * https://deb.li/NFZy
[13:58] <KGB-2> aisleriot pristine-tar 481dd1f Jeremy Bicha aisleriot_3.22.23.orig.tar.bz2.delta aisleriot_3.22.23.orig.tar.bz2.id * pristine-tar data for aisleriot_3.22.23.orig.tar.bz2 * https://deb.li/3hBi0
[13:58] <jbicha> seb128: could you add a bug subscriber to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/guile-3.0 ? we're switching aisleriot to build with that instead of guile-2.2
[13:58] <KGB-0> aisleriot upstream/latest 849e100 Christian Persch cards/meson.build src/window.c cards/README.Атласные cards/Атласные.svg * cards: Add Атласные (Atlasnye) card deck * https://deb.li/igVN4
[13:58] <KGB-0> aisleriot upstream/latest 3e66914 Christian Persch cards/meson.build src/window.c cards/README.atlasnye cards/atlasnye.svg * cards: Add Atlasnye (International) card deck * https://deb.li/2FIe
[15:04] <jbicha> seb128: also a bug subscriber for libsoup3 & wireplumber
[15:10] <KGB-2> gnome-terminal tags 4ae3c98 Jeremy Bicha upstream/3.44.1 * Upstream version 3.44.1 * https://deb.li/3lcee
[15:16] <KGB-2> libadwaita tags 86bb251 Jeremy Bicha upstream/1.1.2 * Upstream version 1.1.2 * https://deb.li/3PFWG
[15:16] <KGB-2> libadwaita pipeline Jeremy Bicha 385523 * pending (extract-source: pending; build: created; build i386: created; build source: created; test-build-any: created; test-build-all: created; test-crossbuild-arm64: created; reprotest: created; lintian: created; autopkgtest: created; blhc: created; piuparts: created)
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[15:16] <KGB-0> evolution signed tags b88a462 Jeremy Bicha ubuntu/3.44.2-0ubuntu1 * evolution Debian release 3.44.2-0ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/3OPry
[15:17] <KGB-0> evolution ubuntu/jammy 8a08421 Jeremy Bicha * pushed 25 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/zWwG
[15:17] <KGB-0> evolution ubuntu/jammy ce50444 Milan Crha src/modules/webkit-editor/e-webkit-editor.c * EWebKitEditor: Mode change not propagated into the Editor widget * https://deb.li/DhPM
[15:17] <KGB-0> evolution ubuntu/jammy bf0ba51 Milan Crha data/webkit/e-editor.js * I#1871 - WebKitEditor: Convert to plain text incorrect on reply/forward open * https://deb.li/3vqYM
[15:17] <KGB-0> evolution ubuntu/jammy b6dc799 Milan Crha src/modules/cal-config-weather/e-weather-location-entry.c * I#1891 - Fails to build with libgweather 3.36 * https://deb.li/hq61
[15:17] <KGB-0> evolution ubuntu/jammy d739458 Milan Crha src/e-util/e-html-editor-link-dialog.c * I#1896 - Composer: Ensure URL entry is focused in Link Properties * https://deb.li/3SgfN
[15:17] <KGB-0> evolution ubuntu/jammy 7462aaf Milan Crha src/ (7 files in 4 dirs) * I#1895 - Misc: Handle numpad Enter similarly as the Enter key * https://deb.li/oytV
[15:35] <seb128> jbicha, subscribed
[15:42] <diddledani> oSoMoN: were you involved in lto-ifying firefox? I'm wondering if there's a known issue with doing lto on armhf, cos I'm having to disable it on the gimp snap specifically only for armhf
[15:44] <oSoMoN> diddledani, yes indeed, and I enabled it for amd64 only, because linking firefox with gold was failing on armhf
[15:44] <oSoMoN> that's something that needs to be investigated further, but I couldn't spare the time
[15:44] <diddledani> I'm getting ok builds on arm64 at least, so I think it is not "all arm"
[15:45] <oSoMoN> yeah, IIRC LTO was working on arm64, but it took an awful amount of time to build
[15:46] <diddledani> big app problems ;-)
[16:18] <diddledani> looks like gimp can successfully build with _some_ lto in armhf, but not everything... I needed to disable it on babl, gegl, libaom, and libheif. everything else has succeeded in compiling with LTO enabled
[16:19] <diddledani> I think babl and gegl had inline assembly which was throwing it, and that might be the same issue what libaom and libheif have, too, but I haven't looked into the latter two too much
[17:49] <RikMills> jbicha: https://i.imgur.com/L5VFZO8.png
[17:50] <RikMills> your wireplumber conflicts on pipewire-media-session don't seem sufficient to cope with upgrades
[17:54] <RikMills> or at least if it works, that is damb ugly
[17:57] <RikMills> oh sigh https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=997818
[18:05] <RikMills> normal and untouched since February
[18:06]  * RikMills rolls eyes
[18:25] <jbicha> RikMills: are y'all looking at switching to PipeWire too?
[18:26] <diddledani> jbicha: I believe we're looking at switching for kinetic (22.10)
[18:27] <diddledani> that was for RikMills too :-)
[18:27] <jbicha> yeah, I was asking specifically about Kubuntu, or if there are any other flavors RikMills is involved with
[18:27] <diddledani> gotcha :-)
[18:28] <diddledani> it'ld be good to get both ubuntu and kubuntu using pipewire
[18:28] <diddledani> I suspect the others will lag a bit further behind
[18:36] <RikMills> jbicha: I just did the switch in kubuntu-meta. a lot of KDE users want it
[18:37] <diddledani> 🥳
[18:38] <jbicha> RikMills: how much cooperation do you have with Debian these days? I'm going to be discussing with Debian about switching the default for GNOME. The desires & consequences for other desktops interests me.
[18:39] <RikMills> jbicha: not as much as I should. moslty I keep to speaking to the qt-kde team
[18:40] <jbicha> please let me know if you hear about whether Debian KDE is talking about switching to PipeWire
[18:40] <RikMills> will do!
[18:41] <RikMills> on flavours, I see from the seeds vcs that ubuntu-budgie and ubuntu-mate have commits to there to switch at least
[18:41] <RikMills> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-mate.kinetic/revision/348
[18:42] <RikMills> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntubudgie-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-budgie.kinetic/revision/2341
[18:49] <jbicha> I'm not working on the wireplumber conflicts issue now but I did file bug 1977564 for it in case someone else wants to
[18:55]  * RikMills subscribes
[18:56] <jbicha> I'm still using jammy personally for probably a couple more weeks
[18:59] <KGB-0> gvfs signed tags 55d1bea Jeremy Bicha ubuntu/1.48.2-0ubuntu1 * gvfs Debian release 1.48.2-0ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/HFNR
[18:59] <KGB-0> gvfs upstream/latest b15e1eb Jeremy Bicha * pushed 6 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/Nbxz
[18:59] <KGB-0> gvfs upstream/latest f1b599d Ondrej Holy daemon/gvfsbackendsftp.c * sftp: Adapt on new OpenSSH password prompts * https://deb.li/igXes
[18:59] <KGB-0> gvfs upstream/latest 5c016a2 Ondrej Holy daemon/ gvfsbackendsmb.c gvfsbackendsmbbrowse.c * smb: Ignore EINVAL for kerberos/ccache login * https://deb.li/2bHC
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[19:04] <RikMills> I'll add some comments to the bug over the weekend if I can
[19:08] <KGB-2> gvfs ubuntu/jammy 8f7d20a Jeremy Bicha * pushed 6 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3aBHh
[19:08] <KGB-2> gvfs ubuntu/jammy 911c637 Jeremy Bicha debian/ control control.in gbp.conf * Update Vcs fields * https://deb.li/rBen
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[19:08] <KGB-2> gvfs ubuntu/jammy 433779f Jeremy Bicha (21 files in 4 dirs) * Update upstream source from tag 'upstream/1.48.2' * https://deb.li/MXuU
[19:08] <KGB-2> gvfs ubuntu/jammy 76c73b9 Jeremy Bicha debian/changelog * New upstream release * https://deb.li/ikFSF
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[19:08] <KGB-2> gvfs upstream/1.48.x 0dc2528 Jeremy Bicha * pushed 20 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3rF1j
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