=== pascalm1 is now known as pascalm [00:36] ubuntu keeps crashing my user session [00:36] the de restarts entirely and I have to login fresh === pascalm1 is now known as pascalm [00:45] why wont this work? export -f buster-uml="$(pwd)" [00:45] or just export buster-uml="$(pwd)" [00:46] that's like a var inside a var error no? you might create it in an array [00:47] terminal variable is what I am trying to do [00:47] I will ask in bash probably a bash question [00:48] cluelessperson: if you're using gnome, I've heard disabling extensions is usually the first debugging step === pascalm1 is now known as pascalm [00:49] sorry I was thinking some thing else, you just export foo=${PWD} not $(PWD) [00:49] cluelessperson: is there anything in the journal (system and user)? [00:49] cluelessperson: how about ~/.xsession-errors? [00:49] transhumanist, ^ === five61 is now known as five6 [01:55] transhumanist, can't have a hyphen in a variable name... [01:55] oh sheesh [01:56] I was so busy grumbling about the complexity of bash variables vs environment variables and didn't even notice the far more important bit :) [01:59] !cookie | rfm [01:59] rfm: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! [01:59] :D === cacti is now known as madmax === ledeni__ is now known as ledeni [02:18] Is there any way to DROP a packet at the iptables level based on the contents on the packet? [02:21] nvm https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man8/tc.8.html === cacti is now known as madmax === ledeni__ is now known as ledeni [02:36] hi how do I mount a directory as a file hostfs path [02:38] put this : none / hostfs defaults 1 1 in /etc/fstab and ran this sudo mount .../root_fs /home/sa/uml/buster-uml -o loop [02:38] and yes this is on ubuntu [02:39] it says it failed to setup loop device for ... [02:40] do you need to run losetup by hand first? [02:41] I haven't done loopback mounts in ages.. [02:42] I dont know [03:55] Quick question - how do I switch display managers from Openbox to KWin? Would prefer if it was on the fly, I can reboot if needed or if it's simpler. [03:56] Nevermind, looks like I got it. "kwin --replace" seems to have done the trick. [04:24] hellow [04:24] Bochi: Hello! How can we help you? [04:26] i got a question re: ubuntu22 autoinstallation. I am trying to set specific apt options during installation, specifically I'd like to disable cnf download. so I use the apt key in cloud-init which according to the documentation: "Apt configuration, used both during the install and once booted into the target system." does what I want. But it doesn't :) when looking at the installation system, I do have a 94curtin in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d [04:26] in /tmp/.... (where the installation system resides) and it even works, but later in /target that file is missing [04:27] so curtin install fails because it tries to install packages in /target where my options are not present [04:28] Bochi: Sadly, I don't know how to fix that, but hopefully someone else here will have ideas. [04:30] np :) the question really is why is 50command-not-found there in the first place, I mean, that's something that imho doesn't make sense during installation ... and we are using our own repo server (aptly based) which does not download cnf metadata === diskin is now known as Guest20 === diskin_ is now known as diskin [05:50] wez, md5 is as good as sha-anything for comparing foo file on iso vs foo file on fat32. in fact cksum would do. or diff. there is zero threat. anyone who could attack your md5 checksum calculation would be able to fake your sha512 calculation as well, both extremely unlikely in the scenario. [06:24] sdlfkji" E [06:24] qljfj a'jai3"?AFKf [06:24] ?? [06:24] thanks <3 [06:26] finally a normal person! [06:48] morning [06:50] morning [06:51] morning === jesopo is now known as jsp === nomad1 is now known as nomad_fr === Furor is now known as Colere === Kholuendara90 is now known as Kholuendara9 === jsp is now known as jess === Furna_ is now known as Furna === miner1234563 is now known as miner123456 [11:02] ok i saw some lights [11:02] so now i have to configure the network host files or something for auto dhcp [11:07] are we still using /etc/network/interfaces ? [11:08] miner123456: if you have lots of bridges set up, it could be because you have docker running or some virtualisation [11:09] miner123456: what exactly are you trying to do? [11:09] gordonjcp, yup, i was told before about this when i asked what br* or veth* is for [11:09] gordonjcp, just getting my second internet line up, that's all [11:10] i did configure the interface for the first line, but i can't recall which file i edited [11:10] miner123456: if you are on a standard install it's /etc/network/interfaces (as you pointed out) [11:10] miner123456, /etc/network/interfaces has been dead since many years now ... [11:11] ahh oops thought I am in the debian channel [11:11] i checked /etc/network/interfaces and its empty, so i reckon that's not the one i used before [11:11] even debian dropped it quite a while ago 🙂 [11:11] do we have anything that we can edit for network that ends with .d ? [11:11] ogra: no? [11:11] ifupdown is gone AFAIK [11:11] ogra: debian still uses it (ifupdown2) [11:11] there might be a successor that uses that dir, not sure [11:12] yeah [11:12] i cannot use ifup if its not configured yet, correct? [11:12] either way, ubuntu uses netplan ... which acts as frontend to systemd-networkd and network-manager [11:13] miner123456: look into netplan, it's quite nice after figuring out :) still have my own issues with it, but I don't hate it [11:13] yes i was just about too google netplan [11:13] if you need up/down scripts with systemd-networkd: https://andreas.scherbaum.la/blog/archives/963-if-up-and-if-down-scripts-with-systemd.html [11:14] ogra: In Debian, ifupdown is still "Priority: important" [11:14] the netplan.io page has a lot of docs and examples [11:14] Unit193, ifupdown or ifupdown2 ? [11:14] oh yes, i found the configuration which i added before, i was using netplan before [11:14] ogra: ifupdown2 is just someone re-investing ifupdown. I meant ifupdown. [11:14] i'm pretty sure the former is gone (whch caused netplan development in the first place) [11:14] ...Re-inventing. [11:14] hmm [11:15] !info ifupdown debian [11:15] 'debian' is not a valid release [11:15] heh [11:15] !info ifupdown unstable [11:15] ifupdown (0.8.37, unstable): high level tools to configure network interfaces. In component main, is important. Built by ifupdown. Size 81 kB / 217 kB [11:15] wow [11:15] i stand corrected [11:17] (Ubuntu still uses netplan and not ifupdown, so moot point. But good to know.) [11:17] after updating yaml, do i need to restart it? [11:18] "sudo netplan try" or "sudo netplan apply" .. [11:18] (try will allow yu to roll back in case you notice issues) [11:19] oh nice, i saw ip a showing it as up now [11:20] ogra: do you happen to know whats going on here? https://paste.debian.net/1242918/ [11:20] but of course, whether it works remains to be seen [11:21] murmel, your indendation is wrong (the amount of spaces is essential in .yaml) [11:22] murmel, https://netplan.io/examples/#configuring-network-bridges [11:22] ogra: i was just copying from netplan.io/examples which has the same indentation [11:22] oh oops, seems like I was too tired [11:22] thanks ogra [11:22] no, it does not 🙂 [11:25] ogra: well thanks again, working now :) [11:25] 👍 [11:25] the netplan config [11:36] are there any shortcuts to determine what is your public ip from the command line? [11:37] miner123456, yes, but that requires communication with a certain website [11:37] ok, its just strange that i can get the interface up, but i am unable to ping anything with -I [11:37] will try again [11:39] curl ifconfig.me // wget -qO- https://ipecho.net/plain ; echo // [11:39] thanks [11:40] oh i got it to work, i misconfigured the ip addresses under netplan, it was overwriting the router ip [11:40] :-) [11:41] Might be able to get it with upnpc -l, if upnp is enabled. [11:41] ipecho is good, just ip result, no bullcrap ads and stuff [11:43] indeed, works for ipv4 and ipv6 [11:43] hello [11:43] Unit193, +1 [11:43] i have a problem with a installation from ubuntu 22.04 on a Lenovo L470. the installation stopps with E/A error. I have replaced with a other ssd, but same problem [11:43] Midid you check the ubuntu iso with md5sum? [11:44] oops, typo, MiLeon [11:44] no, thank you. i check this [11:44] !md5sum [11:44] To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which a checksum is provided), see https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/how-to-verify-ubuntu [11:45] updates require reboot, brb [11:47] thank you oerheks! wrong checksum [11:48] MiLeon, oke, direct download sometimes got corrupted, i prefer to torrent the iso [11:48] https://torrent.ubuntu.com/tracker_index [11:48] i try currently with wget. if the same error i use torrent [11:51] oerheks, no is the correct checksum [11:51] oerheks, now is the correct checksum [11:52] oke, have fun with the 2nd try [11:52] jo thank you bye [12:07] Hi all [12:08] can openvpn 2.5 client connect to openvpn 2.3 server? if so, what should be the specified ciphers and tls-cipher? [12:18] oerheks, it works! many thanks [12:19] * MiLeon send oerheks a cup of cofee and cookies [12:53] openvpn 2.3 server is EOL, AFAIK === kvn_ is now known as kvn [13:10] Hi all , [13:11] I have an issue with Ubuntu cloud images that I would deploy using cloud-init under a ESXI server [13:11] I'm using the settings guestinfo.userdata and encoding . [13:12] Some settings from my userdata are taken into account like the hostname but the user that I would add , it is not the case [13:21] Olivier67, try #ubuntu-server ... (chances to find cloud-init specialists are bigger over there) [13:24] thanks ogra [13:27] kernel update 5.15.0-35 === Starmina_ is now known as Starmina === Starmina27 is now known as Starmina2 === atol71 is now known as atol [14:23] Starmina2: [14:24] sarnold: I tried "snap connections" and a baffling list of things came up [14:24] sarnold: I haven't the foggiest what any of them mean [14:24] I guess firefox is a dead project on Linux, then [14:26] gordonjcp, ?? [14:29] ogra: firefox is broken [14:29] gordonjcp: far from dead [14:29] ogra: nobody seems keen to do anything about it [14:29] gordonjcp, file selection dialogs are coming from your desktop for snaps (or srtictly confined flatpaks), not from the snap ... somthing is broken with xdg-portals in your desktop setup if you can not pick files ... [14:29] ogra: okay, whatever [14:29] ogra: in a stock install of Ubuntu 22.04, firefox does not work [14:30] gordonjcp: it does work here, what exactly goes wrong? [14:30] even without working portals, FF should still fall back to use the home interface and allow you access to all unhidden files in your home though [14:30] gordonjcp, on about 6 machines it works fine OOTB here [14:30] SleepyMario: nothing that looks for any sort of file dialogue box works [14:30] SleepyMario: so, you can't download, you can't upload, you can't save PDFs [14:30] so, firefox is a brick, at this stage [14:31] gordonjcp: this is a completely fresh install without any tweaking? [14:31] SleepyMario: completely fresh install [14:31] gordonjcp: let's wait for some devs to drop in, or file a bug report. [14:31] well, we'd have a trending bug if it was like that for everyone ... [14:31] ogra: exactly [14:31] freshly downloaded 22.04, freshly installed, actually on a brand new SSD but that was by coincidence [14:31] (which it obviously is not) [14:32] ogra: I'm running into the same problem on about four or five machines [14:33] you should file a bug report - if there's a bug tracker [14:33] gordonjcp, weird ... no issues here, nobody complained in this channel apart from you and i surely haven''t heard abut any bug around this [14:34] gordonjcp: you will have to provide more details. at least try to run firefox from a terminal and share the output here. [14:35] snap info firefox | grep ^contact [14:35] in general the xdg-desktop-portal, xdg-desktop-portal-gnome and xdg-desktop-portal-gtk debs of the desktop task manage file selection dialogs ... [14:36] (but as i said, even without them you should be able to access all unhidden files in yur home dir) [14:36] SleepyMario: nothing hugely significant, "Gtk-Message: 15:35:18.323: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module" [14:36] yeah, thats normal [14:37] I'd actually expect firefox to be a lot more chatty than that [14:37] gordonjcp, and while you try to open some file ? anything in journalctl output ? [14:37] SleepyMario: the "devs" do not come here to field support questions. Telling people to wait here for them is not productive. That's what filing bugs is for [14:37] apparmor or seccomp denials, feedback from the xdg portal invocation etc ... [14:38] i'm sure there actually is a dev here sometimes [14:38] after all, this is a community effort, yadda yadda [14:39] SleepyMario: regardless if some of the devs are in here, waiting for them to reply is unproductive and not the purpose of this channel. File bugs [14:39] leftyfb: don't tell me === Starmina20 is now known as Starmina2 [14:39] SleepyMario: I just did [14:39] leftyfb: just try to hide your real purpose [14:39] ogra: wouldn't know what to look for in journalctl [14:40] ogra: isn't it basically a sealed proprietary black box? [14:40] leftyfb: after so many years you're still completely incapable. please. imagine that you don't have goals. [14:40] then suddenly you don't have to do all this. [14:40] gordonjcp, "journalctl -f" in a second terminal ... then start firefox and try to open a file [14:40] can't you understand? [14:41] you have lofty goals [14:41] i have impossible goals that are used for scientific experiments anyway [14:41] gordonjcp, nah ... nothing is sealed, in cubic shape or black here ... [14:41] and that ends it no? [14:41] gordonjcp, everyting is opensource ... [14:42] ogra: but you can't just look at normal logs any more [14:42] ?? [14:42] Linux is getting to be increasingly a pain in the backside to deal with, with stuff like pulseaudio and systemd [14:42] journalctl gives you "normal logs" [14:42] ogra: but then you've got an extra step [14:42] I just want to look at (for example) syslog [14:42] these are known issues with firefox, reinstall might work [14:42] in parallel (silly but true) ubuntu still installs rsyslog, so you can still use the "old way" [14:43] this is just a troll [14:43] gordonjcp: journalctl as opposed to cat or tail? zero extra steps [14:43] I need to output from journalctl to some intermediate file, then work with that, and then pick apart all the clutter [14:43] all logging happens in parallel t syslog and journald [14:43] *to [14:43] SleepyMario, you are not helpfull [14:43] huh ? [14:43] oerheks: zegt iemand met de naam oerheks [14:43] why would you have to pip anything to an extra file [14:44] *pipe [14:45] ogra: because otherwise you have to allow for reading from stdin [14:45] the tech world needs to be toned down [14:45] this is a huge problem [14:45] I seriously dislike Linux these days [14:45] SleepyMario: please stay on topic [14:45] but yeah, -ot [14:45] Someone reported in https://askubuntu.com/questions/1404941/no-file-save-dialog-for-snap-applications that installing these two packages helped: xdg-desktop-portal xdg-desktop-portal-gtk [14:45] oerheks: aha, I'll take a look at that [14:45] leftyfb: waiting until you contribute [14:46] oerheks: funny what a little googling finds huh? [14:46] but reinstall should work too? [14:46] SleepyMario: enough of that. [14:46] leftyfb: that doesn't show up in Google for me; perhaps it's because it's in a foreign language? [14:46] jou | grep "whatilookfor" .... vs grep "whatilookfor" /va/lo/sys ... [14:46] oerheks: reinstall is just about complete [14:46] gordonjcp, sorry to tell ya; bing it [14:46] Maik: what is wrong with you? you didn't even provide a single solution [14:46] the first one is actually a lot less typing [14:46] oerheks: hah [14:47] SleepyMario: please try to behave [14:47] actually what am I talking about, it doesn't work on my laptop either [14:47] Maik: Please try to actually say something sensible [14:47] oerheks: yes, installing xdg-desktop-portal-gtk fixes it [14:47] oerheks: on at least one machine showing the fault [14:47] gordonjcp, why did you remove it ? [14:47] ogra: I didn't [14:47] it is part of the default install [14:48] ogra: remember, this is on a clean install [14:48] mmm, are you sure? [14:48] that's all there was [14:48] we're talking about an install that's about an hour and a half old by this point now [14:48] gordonjcp, apt-cache show xdg-desktop-portal-gtk|grep Task [14:48] gordonjcp: we were earlier than you, if that's your point [14:48] it is in *all* the desktop tasks ... installed by default everywhere [14:49] gordonjcp, what install media did you use ? [14:49] ogra: E: No packages found [14:49] gordonjcp: https://releases.ubuntu.com/22.04/ubuntu-22.04-desktop-amd64.manifest [14:49] ogra: and on one where I have manually installed, Task: ubuntu-desktop-minimal, ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-desktop-raspi, kubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-full, xubuntu-core, xubuntu-desktop, ubuntustudio-desktop, ubuntukylin-desktop, ubuntu-mate-core, ubuntu-mate-desktop, ubuntu-budgie-desktop, ubuntu-budgie-desktop-raspi [14:49] right [14:49] ogra: USB [14:49] gordonjcp: is this a server install or "minimal" install? [14:49] leftyfb: plain ordinary Ubuntu desktop [14:49] gordonjcp, where did you get that install image from was what i meant [14:50] maybe a corrupt or non-official image [14:50] i dont care if you wrote it to DV or USB 🙂 [14:50] *DVD [14:50] ogra: oh, https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop [14:50] the trolling antenna is not working in this channel\ [14:50] this looks like some broken image ... since this package is a hard dependency of all desktop tasks [14:50] according to https://releases.ubuntu.com/22.04/ubuntu-22.04-desktop-amd64.manifest xdg-desktop-portal-gtk is installed by default [14:50] !ot > SleepyMario [14:50] SleepyMario: Please see my private message [14:50] ogra: technically I *can* write it to DV, over firewire, but I don't know how useful that would be :-D [14:50] ogra: baffling [14:50] SleepyMario, next time you might be removed. [14:51] well, anyway, thanks everyone for the help, at least now I know what to do about it [14:51] gordonjcp, well ... [14:51] gordonjcp, it would still be good to know how you actually got into that situation ... have you checked the checksums of the image ? [14:52] perhaps somethig failed when writing it ... etc [14:52] yeah i'm sure someone faking firefox issues is more important than pointing that out in a very friendly way oerheks [14:52] oerheks: reveals your Dutch roots bw [14:52] *bwt [14:52] *btw [14:52] SleepyMario, stop being do confrontative please [14:52] *so [14:52] ogra: yeah I'm leaning towards some Mysterious Cosmic Ray Bit Flip Causes Filesystem Chaos headline here [14:52] ogra: or possibly "Computers Do Be Like That Doh" [14:52] yeah, something like that [14:52] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/1970424 [14:53] Launchpad bug 1970424 in gnome-session (Ubuntu Jammy) "Have ubuntu-desktop-minimal depend on xdg-desktop-portal-gnome" [High, In Progress] [14:53] ioria: good find [14:53] tx [14:54] okay [14:54] ogra: right, now this is very strange [14:54] the problem with the 'minimal' install [14:54] ogra: one of the other laptops that *was* exhibiting this behaviour is now - as of a few minutes ago - not exhibiting this behaviour [14:54] This bug was fixed in the package gnome-session - 42.0-1ubuntu3 [14:54] ioria, aha ! 👍 [14:54] gordonjcp: thanks for providing the ubuntu team with a curious case of firefox bugs [14:54] ogra: but I didn't install the missing package [14:54] ioria: right, this is why I asked if this was a minimal install [14:54] yep [14:55] you folk don't even pretend that you do things a normal way [14:55] so insanely low [14:55] ogra: at this point I think the whole damn thing is just plain haunted, or something, I should stop watching Stranger Things on it [14:55] !ops | give SleepyMario some free time outside this channel [14:55] SleepyMario: please stop [14:55] give SleepyMario some free time outside this channel: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant [14:55] buenas [14:55] hi renevpar [14:56] gordonjcp: I would download a fresh iso from ubuntu.com and run an md5 check on it and then flash the usb again [14:56] leftyfb: yeah [14:57] thanks for thanks for helping for offering some support [14:57] i'm glad the issue has been solved [14:57] leftyfb: I might just run the USB stick down to a mate of mine who is a CoS minister, and have him bless it just to be sure about the haunted thing [14:57] SleepyMario: stop [14:57] leftyfb: solve the issue and stop whining. [14:57] gordonjcp: the bug looks to have been fixed about 3 weeks ago. If you downloaded the iso before that, you wouldn't have the updated installer [14:58] leftyfb: aaaaaaah [14:58] gordonjcp, and it sems to only affect the minimal install ... which is probably less often used [14:58] a non up-to-date iso ...that's a big surprise [14:58] gordonjcp: again, that's only for a minimal desktop install though. If you are doing the full install, you shouldn't be running into this at all [14:59] SleepyMario: stop [14:59] leftyfb: ... which corresponds with when I installed 22.04 on my desktop, which corresponds with when the problem started [14:59] leftyfb: okay, well maybe that doesn't explain it [14:59] odd [14:59] anyway [14:59] leftyfb: what is wrong with you? [15:00] i thought that the ubuntu folk were full of very capable people having such a huge community [15:00] SleepyMario, i really hate having to ban people, please stay quiet unless you have something helpful to cntribute to the conversation [15:00] it turns out that the actual level is hilariously low [15:00] almost like real life [15:01] where can I get kernel dump help? [15:01] !ops | remove SleepyMario please [15:01] remove SleepyMario please: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant [15:02] pound linuxhelp seems dead [15:02] transhumanist: #linux [15:02] yeah big emergency [15:02] big, big, big emergency [15:02] ah ok got the wrong channel thought it was #linuxhelp [15:02] thaks [15:03] of people who wan to force their stuff through [15:03] SleepyMario, please stop or you'll get banned ... [15:03] ogra: ban me, mr. overload. at least i didn't say anything remotely abnormal. [15:03] you're just what you are [15:04] hired by the scientist [15:04] forcing their programs through blindly [15:05] please calm down, everyone who was involved in this discussion. this person was just the worst offender. [15:05] tomreyn, bah, i was just looking up the commands, thanks 🙂 [15:26] someone got a sumary of the drama? :P [15:27] irclogs.ubuntu.com does 😉 [15:29] cbreak, oh, and you might find the solution for your Firefox issue too [15:29] Someone reported in https://askubuntu.com/questions/1404941/no-file-save-dialog-for-snap-applications that installing these two packages helped: xdg-desktop-portal xdg-desktop-portal-gtk [15:30] oerheks: oh, that problem somehow disappeared. Not sure why... I do have xdg-desktop-portal-kde (I'm on kubuntu) [15:31] oh oke [15:31] here's an alternative to the FF snap version https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/how-to-install-firefox-deb-apt-ubuntu-22-04 [15:31] the snap firefox now seems to work ok, mostly, apart from the problem with password manager connectivity [15:31] and the significantly less problematic problem of not being able to change the icon :) [15:35] BluesKaj, we should not promote PPAs here (despite the fact that this PPA might go away) [15:36] cbreak, there is a test snap for the native-messaging-protocol support (password managers, gnome extensions etc) ... [15:37] ogra, this ppa updates the FF package if one follows the instructions on the above page [15:38] BluesKaj, it installs a third party firefox from some external source that will likely soon go away s people will be left with whatever their last version was and will never get updates again [15:38] that would give Firefox ESR 91 [15:39] Ogra, why do you predict it will soon go away? ricotz maintains tons and tons of ppas for years, never had one go away before.... [15:39] this one is FF 100.0.2 [15:40] enigma9o7[m], i expect mozilla to ask for that evetually ... since they were the driving force behind going with the snap in the first place [15:40] enigma9o7[m], but anyway, PPAs are not supported in this channel so we should also not point people to them here [15:43] just a suggestion, i agree most ppas aren't upgraded with the kernel upgrades, but I'll trust this page since it's omgubuntu.co.uk/ [15:44] BluesKaj, well, that wont help if the PPA is shot down ... people just stay quietly on the last version and ar using an insecure browser [15:44] oh the horror [15:45] no need to be snarky [15:46] oh lord, no adventurous stuff allowed [15:46] browsers are probably the category of programs where updating is most important. [15:46] if you want to point people to alternatives, point them to the tarball install instructions ... [15:46] maybe behind actual server software, but as end user those shouldn't be too relevant [15:47] will 20.04 switch to snapfox? [15:47] nope [15:47] No, 18.04 and 20.04 still using debian packaging. [15:47] if not, then you could always run the old LTS [15:47] maybe inside lxc [15:58] cbreak: to be clear, Ubuntu 16.04, 18.04, 20.04 and 21.10 all have the latest firefox snap available [15:59] yeah, that's not too surprising. Snap fox should be somewhat independent of the underlying os [16:01] seems to be based on core20... [16:02] Is there a reason that all the numbers besides the time, size, c, and avail columns in arcstat are zero'ed out on Ubuntu 22.04? I spent a good amount of time on Google and in man pages and feel dumb but can't figure this out. [16:02] wonder how that works, if a program inside snap tries to use new kernel API that's not available in an older host OS [16:03] cbreak: might be a question for #snappy [16:03] javaJake: they might just be rounded down. I usually use arc_summary for more long-term information [16:04] javaJake, https://p.haxxors.com/po64749h.txt [16:04] there is just not a lot going on here [16:05] Ah, that makes sense. Thanks. [16:05] https://p.haxxors.com/hpslvsr1.txt with some action [16:05] Oh, and these are all miss stats so you want them to be low [16:06] right [16:10] hi friends. I'm hitting a bit of a wall with some research... [16:11] openssh does not use libssh? [16:11] I'm testing out some ubuntu server versions [16:12] WeeBey98, apt show openssh-server|grep Depends [16:13] ravage, this is useful thank you! [16:13] also: apt rdepends libssh-4|grep openssh-server [16:14] So, it doesn't depend on libssh. Ok, so how can I have an ssh server that uses libssh? [16:14] WeeBey98: why? [16:15] (This is for a school project for an intrusion class. we just want to use a 2018 CVE) [16:15] ldd /usr/sbin/sshd [16:15] leftyfb, I'll admit that it's quite a lot to take in. [16:15]