[09:39]  * zxmpi waves from hospital o/
[09:42] <zxmpi> testing new android client so suspect it will disconnect a lot till i beat it into submission
[15:33] <daftykins> happy Tuesday!
[16:28] <davef> Is it?
[16:29] <daftykins> dunno yet, gotta make it safely to midnight to declare if it was ok!
[18:01] <davef> hey, let's not get ahead of ourselves here. lets just agree it's a tuesday and that _something_ will probably might not happen.
[18:01] <daftykins> :)
[18:02] <daftykins> just had a chuckle over the dentist client continuing to be awkward, he thinks it's fine to send HDMI over 15 metres in walls
[18:02] <daftykins> i argued that it'd be better to have a backup plan in place, so suggested we have cat6 between points so that media converters could be used just in case HDMIs can't handle it / encounter interference
[18:03] <daftykins> he started claiming they'd add to the traffic on the LAN... lol
[18:04] <davef> o_O
[18:05] <davef> I remember when I was in charge of a media distribution thing at one of my previous jobs... HDMI over Ethernet was a godsend. 
[18:05] <daftykins> ooh you're the most qualified person i've encountered to be able to declare his plan nuts, then
[18:06] <davef> Very nuts
[18:07] <davef> You'll get 15-25ft max over HDMI 1080@60fps
[18:07] <daftykins> basically talking full HD monitors mounted on walls up to 15m from the PC, i think it's a risk
[18:07] <daftykins> ah yeah
[18:07] <davef> I think electrically, it should be okay, but don't be running it behind the wall. That would depend on local codes.
[18:08] <davef> *building codes
[18:09] <davef> I was running HDMI 1080p@25fps over Ethernet, but over 200ft+ runs.
[18:09] <daftykins> ah right
[18:10] <davef> I think I even struggled with that at some points, but in those cases 720i@25fps worked for displaying news broadcasts.
[18:12] <davef> My guess now that these days you could probably get 4K@60fps with modern HDMI/Ethernet converters.
[18:12] <daftykins> yep, do-able with about ~£120 adapters from the likes of StarTech
[18:13] <davef> There you go
[18:13] <daftykins> client is arguing it though heh
[18:13] <davef> The converters 10yrs ago were WAY more expensive.
[18:14] <daftykins> any that use fibre still seem to be
[18:14] <davef> If he wants to run a wire in the wall.. HDMI over Eth is best.  HDMI cables are not designed to be run behind the wall.
[18:15] <daftykins> mmm he's assuming there won't be any power-induced interference and what-not, such a mad assumption
[18:15] <daftykins> i met an eletrician on the job the other day, he said this guy was trying to tell him how to do his job xD so you can tell what kind of client i mean
[18:15] <davef> haha
[18:16] <davef> You can tell your client that you spoke with somebody who knows this shit and recommends ethernet
[18:16] <daftykins> :D 
[18:18] <daftykins> he started asking if they should order the cables, they don't even know the length required ¬_¬
[18:18] <daftykins> good thing is my pal is project managing for them, he called me in originally - so i'll just suggest he take control and ensure the cat6's are in, point to point - then we're covered