[00:00] (I've gotten better at this over the years, thankfully.) [00:00] Experience is proportionate to data destroyed. [00:01] jhutchins: LOL If only that were a joke... (totaldelete C:\windows\symlink\to\sourcecode comes to mind... oh that was such a mess, careful with symlinks on Windows!) [00:01] Boomer4582: Still doing my test, but I'm making progress. [00:02] All right, I am waiting on the next commands. [00:03] Alright, simulated the mess in a VM, now I can make sure my fix works. [00:06] Almost done... [00:12] OK, now we're just waiting on my Internet, which should take about less than 4 minutes, then I'll be able to reboot and see if it works. [00:13] I disconnected, sorry arraybolt3[m] [00:13] what's the next command please? [00:13] Boomer4582: For in the future, Ubuntu will automatically remove unused kernels as a normal part of the update process. You will notice two kernels in there - that's on purpose, so that if something goes wrong after an update, you have a fallback. [00:14] That's fine. I'm still working on the test (about a minute left on my download), if this works I'll tell you the commands, if not, then you'll be glad I didn't tell them to you! [00:14] All right [00:16] Is it possible to run my INSTALLED apps when I have chrooted into my OS using a live OS USB? [00:16] such as my Bitpay installed app from Snap [00:16] Boomer4582: Sorta, but not really. [00:16] Boomer4582: Also, don't worry about payment - we're all here because we love doing tech support. [00:16] The whole point of Ubuntu is that it's really good and free. [00:16] Good people still exist huh [00:17] OK, here we go! Looks like it's working! [00:17] !cookie | arraybolt3[m] [00:17] arraybolt3[m]: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! [00:17] oerheks: LOL [00:17] oh boy, as long as it doesn't break my encryption and possibly losing my crypto resulting in divorce, it's fine :') [00:17] Oy. Well, it almost worked... [00:18] almost? [00:18] I can boot, but it's not giving me a prompt for the encryption key. I obviously missed something, but what, I'm not sure. Glad I didn't tell you what I did! [00:19] oh Goodness [00:19] can't I just decrypt the partition and do this using a decrypted partition? [00:19] wouldn't that be easier? [00:19] Boomer4582: I don't know how, but I doubt if that's possible. [00:21] do we try something else arraybolt3[m]? [00:23] Install the Linux kernel: apt-get install linux-image-generic (no sudo required as you are root after a chroot) [00:23] wouldn't this work? [00:24] That's what I did, and it's what got me here. [00:25] Boomer4582: Can you do "cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | pbput", and then give me the URL? [00:25] This will let me see what your grub.cfg file looks like. [00:26] Boomer4582: arraybolt3[m]: Might I suggest ' apt install --reinstall linux-image-generic ' ? should workie IF the partition is now Un-encrypted in a change root environment. [00:26] Bashing-om: The problem is that is updates something in a weird way, I think. I don't get a passphrase prompt. [00:26] "cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | pbput" [00:26] 1minute, sorry [00:28] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rps5Dz8Jgg/ [00:28] Writing from other account on the machine, I had to install pastebinit [00:29] Guest45: OK. [00:29] https://ibb.co/kQ3vdFn this is what installing pastebinit did [00:29] strange [00:30] that normal? [00:31] Guest45: Weird, it looks like it reinstalled the kernel for you. [00:31] yes.. shall I reboot? [00:31] It doesn't look like it worked. [00:32] cryptsetup: WARNING: target 'luks-886b72e4-c13e-4998-8956-21122ca4bef2' not [00:32] found in /etc/crypttab [00:32] it also gave this :( [00:32] Hmm... Yeah, that's what I got too. [00:32] I hope it didnt break something [00:32] Let me reboot [00:33] Well, you're backing up all your files, right? [00:33] I think I did.. [00:33] I'm still able to access my encrypted drive even after this, so worst case scenario, you should be able to back up everything and then reinstall. [00:35] Nope [00:35] wont boot [00:36] Are you at a BusyBox screen? [00:37] https://ibb.co/XWKkMdg [00:37] God Damn [00:37] Hey wait, boot up from your live USB again. [00:37] doing [00:41] USB boot up stuck [00:41] ok it works now [00:42] Boomer4582: OK, do the commands that got you into the encrypted drive earlier. [00:42] Boomer4582: You probably can't see those now... [00:42] Boomer4582: OK, open the encrypted drive again. [00:46] Decrypted it, worked. Did all the neccessary commands, now I am in chroot environment. [00:48] Boomer4582: OK, run "update-initramfs -u". [00:48] I did run that inside chroot and it showed nothing [00:49] no output [00:50] Hmm... odd. It should have said something about "Generating /boot/initrd.img" [00:50] nope, nothing [00:51] Boomer4582: "ls /boot" [00:52] https://ibb.co/Lk0P7kJ [00:52] Hey, I think I just figured it out! Hold on one moment... [00:54] Guest58: Can not work from an image. Can you not show us the command and its result as text ? [00:54] I bet I forgot to install a package in the encrypted system. If this works, I'll give you the commands. [00:54] Bashing-om: I can deal with images. [00:54] Here's the text: [00:55] arraybolt3[m]: I try to zoom here and nope no can do :( [00:55] config-5.15.0-33-generic memtest86+_multiboot.bin [00:55] dev proc [00:55] efi sys [00:55] grub System.map-5.15.0-33-generic [00:55] initrd.img-5.15.0-25-generic vmlinuz [00:56] lost+found vmlinux-5.15.0-33-generic [00:56] memtest86+.bin vmlinuz.old [00:56] memtest86+.elf [00:56] Bashing-omroot@ubuntu:/# ls /boot [00:56] config-5.15.0-33-generic memtest86+_multiboot.bin [00:56] dev proc [00:56] efi sys [00:56] grub System.map-5.15.0-33-generic [00:56] initrd.img-5.15.0-35-generic vmlinuz [00:56] Guest58: Working, give me just a bit. [00:58] OK sure [00:59] grrr... ok, still working on it [01:00] I think I got it! [01:01] Argh, why? Still giving me that warning. [01:07] Boomer4582: type "ls /boot | nc termbin.com 9999" [01:08] what does that do? [01:09] Boomer4582: That would probably give a link for people to see the text of what's in your /boot directory. [01:10] https://termbin.com/5kphk [01:12] Guest58: I'm still working on this. If I can just figure out what command to make my kernel work, I can give you the fix. [01:12] all right man [01:13] which ubuntu is this Guest58 ? 22.04? [01:13] yes 22.04 LTS [01:14] !info linux-image-generic jammy [01:14] linux-image-generic (5.15.0.35.38, jammy): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Built by linux-meta. Size 3 kB / 20 kB. (Only available for amd64, armhf, arm64, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x.) [01:15] Boomer4582: type apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-5.15.0-35-generic [01:15] EriC^ I know that looks like it will work, but I tried something like that. [01:15] right now you're missing the 35 kernel in /boot, you only have an initrd [01:15] It didn't do it. [01:15] arraybolt3[m]: look at his paste for heaven's sake :D [01:15] Something about being in the chroot messes up encryption support. [01:15] I did. [01:16] what [01:16] I made a VM, replicated the error, purged and reinstalled the kernel, and... [01:16] Now I get BusyBox on bootup in the VM. [01:16] arraybolt3[m]: look here https://termbin.com/5kphk [01:16] I think I know what the problem is (the chroot is messing with encryption), but I'm not sure how to fix it. That's what I'm working on. [01:16] https://pastebin.com/tcqDmykM [01:16] did it work? shall I reboot? [01:16] EriC^: Yes I know. [01:16] he has the 33 kernel and the 35 initrd right now [01:16] EriC^: I know. He's got encryption on top of everything. [01:17] It's throwing a wrench in the works. [01:17] so? [01:17] Memtest86+ needs a 16-bit boot, that is not available on EFI, exiting [01:17] Warning: os-prober will not be executed to detect other bootable partitions. [01:17] Systems on them will not be added to the GRUB boot configuration. [01:17] Check GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER documentation entry. [01:17] done [01:17] did it work guys or not? [01:17] If you want to make a VM and try it yourself, go ahead, but when it doesn't give you a password prompt and drops you into BusyBox, Don't say I didn't warn you. === mwhudson_ is now known as mwhudson [01:17] Guest58: Do update-initramfs -u again. [01:17] If it gives a crypttab warning, it didn't work. [01:17] no [01:17] i think you guys are confused [01:18] EriC^: You've not dealt with this error with encryption. [01:18] I just did this. I know what I'm talking about. [01:18] yeah you did what he did i get it [01:18] If he gets the crypttab warning, he's gonna get dropped to BusyBox when he reboots. [01:19] www.pastebin.com/YFWu9czc [01:19] what's ls /boot looking like right now Boomer4582 ? [01:19] EriC^: Sorry if I'm snippy, I'm kinda tired. [01:19] no worries buddy [01:19] EriC^: Thanks. [01:19] Please check the latest pastebin after I run update-initramfs -u [01:19] it didnt work, right? [01:20] Boomer4582: try ls /boot/*35* [01:20] do you see both the initrd and the vmlinuz ? [01:21] root@ubuntu:/# ls /boot/*35* [01:21] Boomer4582: I think I got it! I GOT IT TO BOOT! [01:21] OK, let's see if this works. [01:21] Tell me Array! [01:22] https://ibb.co/tb1z0f3 [01:22] OK, can you send messages even if the computer isn't working? [01:22] using my laptop [01:23] Agh, still not working automatically. [01:24] But, I now know more about how to fix this. I think we're almost there. [01:24] Boomer4582: can you run 'cat /etc/crypttab | nc termbin.com 9999' please? [01:25] EriC^: You read my mind. [01:25] :D [01:25] https://termbin.com/l436 [01:26] sda3_crypt UUID=886b72e4-c13e-4998-8956-21122ca4bef2 none luks,discard [01:27] yes guys? [01:27] Guest58: also 'blkid | nc termbin.com 9999' [01:27] OK, reboot the machine with the live USB still in it, and when you reboot into the live environment, don't open the encrypted drive. [01:27] I got 5 more minutes, sadly [01:27] https://termbin.com/srhe [01:28] afterwards I need to go, unfortunately have a plane to catch. [01:28] what else do I do now? I dont have time to do the process all over again this very moment. [01:28] let's give it a shot without having to restart all over [01:28] OK, "sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda3 luks-886b72e4-c13e-4998-8956-21122ca4bef2" [01:28] ah i think i know why this is happening [01:28] tell me [01:28] yeah i was about to say but no [01:28] arraybolt3[m]: that's not it [01:28] OK. Well, reboot into the main OS. You'll get dropped to BusyBox. [01:29] you want to decrypt it as sda3_crypt [01:29] Yeah, but this will at least get the system to boot. [01:29] When in BusyBox, do "cryptsetup lukeOpen /dev/vda3 my_encrypted_volume". [01:29] reboot the live usb and use sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda3 sda3_crypt to decrypt it, so everything lines up [01:29] so which command do I type now guys? [01:29] Type the passphrase. [01:29] Do EriC^'s. [01:29] What he just said makes much more sense. [01:29] right now it was decrypted as luks-uuid by the gui and it's messing things up cause crypttab uses sda3_crypt [01:30] Then do mount /dev/mapper/sda3_crypt /mnt [01:30] Then do all the commands for getting into the encrypted system, and then run update-initramfs -u in the encrypted system. [01:30] We can resume this when you get off the plane. [01:31] I think that will get you booting, though. [01:34] https://ibb.co/gvwSygs [01:35] I got here, some progress. [01:35] Boomer4582: If it drops you to BusyBox, I think we can fix it. [01:35] Yep. You'll get an odd-looking shell. [01:35] yes it dropped me to the terminal shell now [01:35] what's next [01:35] OK, do "cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda3 sda3_crypt" [01:35] Type the passphrase. [01:36] Now do "mount /dev/mapper/vgubuntu-root /root" [01:36] Then do "exit". [01:36] That should boot you up. Once that happens, open a terminal with Ctrl+Alt+T, then do "sudo update-initramfs -u", and you should be done. [01:36] EriC^: You were exactly right. If it wasn't for you, I probably wouldn't have figured out how to fix it. Thank you SO MUCH! [01:37] EriC^ I got my VM working again. [01:37] https://ibb.co/php5zMX [01:37] did I do them right? [01:38] nothing happened.. [01:38] Boomer4582: Yep, now do "exit". [01:38] Boomer4582: This should boot your desktop. [01:38] Good Lord, it worked [01:38] wow [01:38] haha [01:38] Boomer4582: Once that's done, open a terminal and do "sudo update-initramfs -u" to make it stick. [01:39] done. all good now I suppose? [01:40] arraybolt3[m]: no problem buddy, pretty sure you would have gotten it anyway though [01:40] Boomer4582: Done being the update-initramfs, right? [01:40] ante@workstation:~$ sudo update-initramfs -u [01:40] [sudo] password for dante: [01:40] update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-5.15.0-35-generic [01:40] I: The initramfs will attempt to resume from /dev/dm-2 [01:40] I: (/dev/mapper/vgubuntu-swap_1) [01:40] I: Set the RESUME variable to override this. [01:40] you did 99% of the work really [01:40] does that mean it worked? [01:41] safe to reboot? [01:41] Boomer4582: If you did the update-initramfs, you're done and everything will be working. And if it's not, you can always use that trick inside the BusyBox shell to boot. It looks like it worked, reboot and see. [01:41] Yeah, reboot. [01:41] !cookie | EriC^ [01:41] EriC^: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! [01:41] :D [01:42] All great, rebooted. [01:42] Just amazing. You guys truly are amazing. [01:43] 👍 [01:43] Boomer4582: Glad we were able to help. And I'm really glad EriC^ was here. === five619 is now known as five61 === octav1a_ is now known as octav1a [04:14] I am on 22.04 Xubuntu and it is updating this morning and just showed "W: Possible missing firmware" and states multiple missing amdgpu firmwares and then it stops updating.. [04:15] its after depmod and update-initramfs [04:15] i always get that W: [possible missing warning; as its "W" it means warning, it shouldnt stop anything from updating. [04:15] I have RX480 inserted in HP 600 G1 Twr [04:16] in any case, its W; its warning. It shouldn't stop anything from proceeding. [04:16] here it just halts [04:16] I can only hit cancel [04:16] Hmmmmm that sounds different, in my case I'm not prompted. What is the prompt asking you to cancel? [04:17] Last line in update window is "W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/amdgpu/navi10_mes.bin for module amdgpu" , it's Software updater window. [04:17] hi, I hate the default file browser 'Files' with a passion, any recommendations for something better? [04:17] Now I see 'zpool list also halts hmm' [04:18] also known as 'Nautilus' [04:18] dunno what that means [04:19] dsc, thunar is fine. [04:19] But I dunno what you hate about nautilus. [04:19] But I use thunar and works for me. [04:19] be sure to add the xarchiver plugin [04:19] Nautilus is just one of those GUIs designed by programmers, not with users in mind [04:19] no offense [04:19] ill try thunar, thanks [04:20] well that seems wrong, whereas gnome stuff like nautilus seems to be designed by programmers with average users in mind, trying to hide advanced options, simlpify stuff, use sane defaults, etc. [04:20] I personally like a zillion options. [04:20] But tthats not gnome. [04:20] I suppose that would require me to switch to xfce (which is not a problem, but oh well :P) [04:20] So I don't think you'll like thunar better, but be sure to give it a try. [04:21] No, of course not, just `sudo apt install thunar` [04:21] alright [04:21] you can install every file manager [04:21] I assumed so as it pulls in libxfce-* related packages [04:21] xfce is gtk based [04:21] so there really isnt any extra libs [04:21] cool [04:22] if you try the kde file manager, sure it'll pull in qt, but reall you havent installed any qt or kde apps yet? [04:22] vlc virtualbox qbitorrent etc all pull in qt libraries [04:23] once you install one app, then the rest are fine, so if you wanna try the kde file manager, go ahead [04:23] yeah but Qt is not a desktop environment while xfce is [04:23] anyway downloading those xfce is not an issue ofc. [04:23] those xfce libs* [04:24] Hi! Can someone help me with some data restoration. My Synology NAS died on me. Followed some guides and now I'm stuck with an error that says: "mount: /mnt/md127: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/vg1-volume_1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error." [04:25] Zeek7098: maybe try to make a complete copy of the disk by using `dd` (or any other recovery software) before trying to mount it [04:26] so you at least have a copy around [04:27] I don't have a copy [04:27] Sigh [04:28] It's my work files that I need [04:28] wife, daughter, bills... Jesus [04:28] Try re-reading what I said [04:28] that sounds more personal [04:28] dsc_,I'm a total linux noob. [04:28] Not to nit pick. [04:28] I would create an image of the disk [04:29] Ok [04:29] by using `dd` or otherwise using recovery software [04:29] thats just what I would do [04:29] is there any recovery software on linux? [04:29] im using Pop OS [04:29] I'd just give up and start over. Or pay$$$$ to data recovery service. [04:29] Cuz they know what they're doing. [04:30] enigma9o7[m], I'm literally on my last line here. Please, empathy. [04:30] and next time, back up [04:30] No money. [04:30] Yeah, I get it. [04:30] I get it enigma9o7[m] [04:31] not really recovery [04:31] clonezilla is a cloning tool [04:31] suppose you could try clonezilla to clone the disk but you need to know what you are doing [04:31] sorry i dunno anything actually useful [04:31] right [04:31] @dcs, Ok... I don't know what I'm doing. I'll look for a tutorial on clonezilla. [04:31] Zeek7098: it just copies the disk 1:1 without mounting it, you seem to have an issue mounting so .. maybe good to copy it as-is [04:32] then later you can attempt techniques such as file carving [04:32] if you install clonezilla from repo, it wont add menu entry, just `sudo clonezilla` to get into interactive UI [04:32] Wait a sec [04:32] My Synology drives (two 2TB drives + 1 4TB drive) are btrfs / HFS / RAID 5 [04:32] is this relevant? [04:34] you need an expert, this is not something that is easily fixed I think [04:34] I can't afford an export at this moment. [04:34] Wife, 8mo baby, bills. Work due this friday. I either pay up or go homeless. [04:35] You might get lucky and catch someone here, but what you're dealing with isn't common knowledge. [04:35] Either I find a way or I'm fucked. [04:35] Hence why I said earlier pay expert. [04:35] @enigma [04:35] well in the past when I was poor I spend time figuring it out myself, thats how I learned linux essentially [04:35] spent* [04:35] but it will take time [04:35] enigma9o7[m], no money. I'm not being cheap. [04:36] if its hardware failure related tho, getting a clone of it now is a good idea. [04:36] cuz if its hardware failure, it will continue to degrade [04:36] hard drives should be fine [04:36] and at some point become completely inaccassible [04:36] the issue was the Synology NAS [04:42] gma@pop-os:~$ sudo clonezilla [04:42] Clonezilla mode is device-device [04:42] Setting the TERM as linux [04:42] Starting /usr/sbin/ocs-onthefly at 2022-06-08 00:39:07 AST... [04:42] Start preparing device name cache files in /tmp/ocs-cache//... [04:43] Zeek7098: read some tutorials first about how to use clonezilla [04:43] these type of programs can do harm too [04:43] when not used correctly [04:44] it's wednesday at 12:44pm. I have to do this on the fly if no one can't guide me through it. I will only have a couple of hours on thursday to actually do the work. [04:45] besides... it's not like it's doing anything. [04:45] it's just hung on the last line. [04:46] also... I'm assuming getting data out of a 4TB array is going to take a couple of hours [04:46] as far as I know, clonezilla is an operating system for the sole purpose of creating disk images [04:46] so, previously I would burn clonezilla.iso on an USB stick [04:46] and boot from that [04:46] its an app. `sudo apt install clonezilla` [04:46] it's both [04:47] right, I would use the live cd [04:47] I'm using the app [04:47] but I also downloaded the ISO and placed it on my ventoy [04:47] anyway should not matter .. I just dont have experience with the CLI tool [04:47] sigh... I mind as well reboot and go into the live version [04:47] since the CLI is not doing anything. [04:48] thx for the help [04:48] so this program can take a disk (for example /dev/sda) and create an image out of it [04:48] the reason why you want an image is so that you have a backup at least [04:48] honestly, if I don't get it working on the next 24h it won't matter at all. [04:48] because like enigma9o7[m] mentioned, when there is a hardware issue, the problems might become worse over time [04:49] he didnt let me finish ;/ [04:49] What's a good e-book or YT channel to learn more about general stuff on Ubuntu? === Wild_Man is now known as Guest7934 === gschanuel7 is now known as gschanuel [06:14] hi where is there some proper directions recommended by canonical for install? ing python3 [06:15] just sudo apt -y install python3 [06:18] transhumanist: python3 is already installed. it is a main component [06:19] !info python3 | transhumanist [06:19] transhumanist: python3 (3.10.4-0ubuntu2, jammy): interactive high-level object-oriented language (default python3 version). In component main, is important. Built by python3-defaults. Size 23 kB / 90 kB [06:19] ok thanks for the confirmation [06:19] so much spam out there on the topic [06:22] this package has broken my system https://bpa.st/DQKA any idea how to remove it? [06:32] yo mama [06:32] uwu [06:38] transhumanist: what happens when you run: sudo apt --fix-broken install [06:38] it just spits out garbage... [06:38] and dies [06:39] I'm guessing you were following some blog/tutorial on how to install dart [06:40] trying to install some AI software [06:40] I was just hoping they might have some new magic for Ubuntu 22.04 [06:41] this is the problem when you dont support pcie pass through, virtualization, excellent cpu, plenty of ram and your developing on the same machine as you use for a desktop [06:41] I think you're trying to install two versions of the same package, one from some PPA and one from Ubuntu. What's the output of: apt policy libdart6-external-odelcpsolver [06:41] While Ubuntu offers libdart6-external-odelcpsolver6.12 instead (different name) [06:47] alkisg anyway to generate a list of installed packages using apt-get that were not part of original install? [06:48] Not easily, the "original installation" state isn't kept in apt. It's possible to search for "packages not in ubuntu repositories" though [06:49] But if you used a ppa, the easiest way to remove it is ppa-purge [06:54] !apt-clone [06:54] !clone [06:54] To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can use the !software package "apt-clone" - See also !automate [06:56] I will keep that in mind for next install. this one is too broken to get back it seems [06:56] transhumanist: Pretty much the only way to track the original package set is to do something like dpkg -l > [06:57] transhumanist: You can get the lists of packages that the installer uses for various options, but I'm not sure where you'd find that. [06:57] ya I got most of those, mainly big thing is my VM's list and kqemu setup with bridge networking that takes the time to get back. I can't fully use VM's on my system because VM's crash a lot because of a real shitty system [06:57] You can check your recently installed packages in /var/log/apt/history [06:57] fridge.ubuntu.com seems to be down ;-( [06:58] would be helpful to get a list of which system utility installed a particular package [06:58] and what ones attempted the install too [07:02] You can see something like that with `apt rdepends package` [07:02] But for "which ones attempted..." you'll need /var/log/apt === diskin is now known as Guest2191 === diskin_ is now known as diskin === hackerman34 is now known as hackerman3 [07:39] Is it possible to hide file extensions in nautilus? [07:49] Hmm.. I don't see an extension for it anyway. [08:07] why on libreoffice start screen, libreoffice base is disabled ? do I miss some packages ? [08:08]