[15:28] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: It seems it is possible to have two pulseaudio's running. pulseaudio -k may not fix and I have just added pulseaudio to my killall list instead. I do follow with a systemd restart pulse, but it doesn't seem I need to.
[15:28] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: for what it's worth, systemd starting pulse effectively breaks Cadence
[15:29] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Yeah, that was kinda my fear RE: multiple pulseaudios. And yeah, not surprised, but as far as we know Cadence is moribund anyhow.
[15:38] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: I think he is waiting for PW to take over.
[15:38] <OvenWerks> not sure what that says about the state of jack
[16:01] <Eickmeyer> Well, if wtay can get pw to be as feature-complete as jack, obviously there's a winner.
[16:02] <OvenWerks> unfortunately I think the extra jack backends will never be added... maybe can't be added.
[16:06] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: anyway, 2.3.3 is out
[16:06] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: ack, I'll get it uploaded.
[16:23] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: if you haven't started yet, it seems 2.3.4 will be soonish
[16:23] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: heh, literally just uploaded, but feel free as I can supersede it pretty easily.
[16:24] <OvenWerks> that is ok, I think that one covers the big problems.
[16:25] <OvenWerks> So far 2.3.4 is just a fix for those using three delta 1010s
[16:26] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, that's fine. Honestly, britney will see the second upload, wipe the first upload and do the autopackagetests against the second upload. I'm not too worried.
[16:41] <OvenWerks> Hmm, it seems one of my file changes didn't get merged  :P
[17:31] <Eickmeyer> If that's the case, then a 2.3.4 might be necessary.
[18:05] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: 2.3.4 is out
[18:08] <OvenWerks> I seem to be able to restart jack lots of time without pulse jamming. This may be due to some very old (one from the 90s) pciaudio devices
[18:09] <OvenWerks> I now reinitialize alsa before starting jack
[18:44] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Uploaded.
[18:45] <Eickmeyer> 2.3.3 is in Kinetic, I'm not even going to bother backporting it at this poitn.
[19:55] <OvenWerks> of course
[21:28] <Eickmeyer> Ok, 2.3.4 is in kinetic and backported.
[22:14] <OvenWerks> and installed
[22:27] <OvenWerks> And broken :P
[22:28] <OvenWerks> Mostly runs but USB plugged in does not start bridge. Seems to be a type error :P
[23:46] <Eickmeyer> oof.