| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:09 |
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| mmikowski | :RikMills hi rik, you around? | 15:13 |
| RikMills | mmikowski: for now | 15:22 |
| mmikowski | Hey, nothing lengthy, i was just wondering if you were interested in porting some of the kubuntu focus tools upstream. No pressure, but there are some that might make a lot of sense. | 15:23 |
| mmikowski | Just thought I'd give you a bump before I got too far into my day. | 15:23 |
| mmikowski | Maybe a better way to consider is to join a video call and look through the stuff. Might be the fastest way to determine what you'd like. | 15:24 |
| RikMills | mmikowski: I must admit I have not taken too close a look at what you have. I hate video calls, but I am sure we can work something out :) | 15:25 |
| mmikowski | Great work on the system, and just saw another big upgrade today. KDE is really starting to settle down it appears. | 15:25 |
| RikMills | mmikowski: I also have frameworks 5.95 and plasma 5.25 (embargoed tars) building ;) | 15:26 |
| mmikowski | I think the value of a video call isn't in seeing each other - honestly, I don't need that either - but in screen sharing the tools and responding immediately to question or interest. So "Screen Share Call" might be the best way to put it. | 15:26 |
| RikMills | currently | 15:26 |
| mmikowski | Ooh, that's great! | 15:26 |
| mmikowski | here are some of the kubuntu focus tools. On the focus, you can click any icon to launch the app through a mime-handler. | 15:27 |
| mmikowski | https://kfocus.org/wf/tools | 15:27 |
| mmikowski | We do lots of other stuff like make slack web links work, and of course hardware integration, but these seem like low hanging fruit. | 15:28 |
| RikMills | some of those look interesting :D | 15:28 |
| mmikowski | So don't worry about, just wanted to plant a seed. If you want to return to it at some time, just let me know. | 15:29 |
| RikMills | ok, I am not likely to get far on it in the next week. feel free to ping if it looks like I have forgotten | 15:29 |
| RikMills | I do want to set up a VM with ficus sometime to see what is what. just keeps getting bumped down the list | 15:30 |
| RikMills | *focus | 15:30 |
| mmikowski | Thanks! One that is sill but solves a frequent problem for our ML customers, is the C stack switcher. Days of research into that (and many weeks and even months in others). It saves ML guys days of doing it badly. | 15:30 |
| mmikowski | Ah, no worries Rik. Again, I really appreciate all the hard work you do the the distro, and would like contribute back too. | 15:31 |
| RikMills | I suspect the c stack switcher is probably more reverent to your userbase than the general kubuntu one, but hey, may be good for all | 15:32 |
| mmikowski | kk, so I'll pester you in around a week if I haven't hear from you :) | 15:32 |
| RikMills | please do. I just have too many balls in the air this weekend | 15:33 |
| mmikowski | The vidsync is another good one. Again, completely solves a common problem correctly and in a packaged way. | 15:33 |
| mmikowski | And, like all of these, once we improve them, they get upgraded seamlessly. | 15:33 |
| RikMills | :D | 15:34 |
| mmikowski | The mime handler is also a nice one, although not listed directly here. It will add repo + install + open on a click if needed. | 15:34 |
| mmikowski | Wimpress is doing this on CLI very well recently and got some good press for it; we've been doing it for over 2 years now, and we've offered to provide the UI to the project. | 15:35 |
| mmikowski | sorry, GUI :P | 15:35 |
| mmikowski | We also contribute to get-deb which is their project. | 15:36 |
| mmikowski | kk, I'll let you get back to life and I'll add a reminder in my calendar to give you a bump. | 15:36 |
| RikMills | this sort of thing has slipped in kubuntu in recent years. custom tools to add value getting removed due to bitrot with no-one able to maintain | 15:37 |
| RikMills | a fresh look on this would be great | 15:37 |
| RikMills | ok, and thanks. this looks promising :) | 15:38 |
| mmikowski | We've got a really good package and dev infrastructure in place now, with automated regression tests on a nice common lib. It's all GPL 2, and we expect to soon have a public repo. Of course, our ppa is already public. | 15:39 |
| mmikowski | Great Rik. Here's a quick intro to the mime-handler stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Zfv29cLrE | 15:40 |
| mamarley | RikMills: How come 5.25 is only for Jammy in https://launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ubuntu/plasma/+packages ? (Not trying to ask you to do extra work, just curious.) | 15:47 |
| RikMills | mamarley: because the kinetic build is in https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/4864/+packages | 15:48 |
| mamarley | Ah, figured it was something like that, thanks! | 15:48 |
| RikMills | to land straight to the archive on Tuesday | 15:48 |
| mamarley | (Got to have the latest software crack. ;) ) | 15:49 |
| RikMills | indeed! | 15:49 |
| mamarley | I've been running the 5.25 beta with Wayland ever since it was released. This is the first time I've done that for more than a couple of days without finding some reason to switch back to X. But this is really nice. | 15:50 |
| RikMills | kool! | 15:50 |
| mamarley | Yay, they fixed the missing clock in the lock screen! | 16:38 |
| mamarley | Hmm, something in this is causing some menus that come off the panels (kickoff, calendar, etc.) to bump any windows in the way out of the way. Annoying… | 17:20 |
| RikMills | mamarley: not seen that so far | 21:51 |
| mamarley | It's only on Wayland. | 21:52 |
| mamarley | And it is caused by https://invent.kde.org/frameworks/plasma-framework/-/commit/d0c9c659db4b35f98b7d9a3b2f8afb9fe5d73f34. | 21:53 |
| ubottu | Commit d0c9c65 in frameworks/plasma-framework "Do not send all windows below the dialog when window type is AppletPopup" | 21:53 |
| RikMills | is this reported as a bug? | 21:58 |
| mamarley | I reported it, but in the wrong application. I need to go fix that now… | 21:58 |
| mmikowski | RikMills: Do you know anything about events propogating improperly on QML widgets (Plasma Optimus is the issue here). I found that script-exit events that used to fire there no longer do, which results in the widget never getting the GPU name. | 21:59 |
| mmikowski | RikMills: I'm looking at an alternate execution path, but if you said something like 'No worries mate, its a known bug, and fix is in', that would make my day :) | 22:00 |
| RikMills | mmikowski: not right now, especially as it is 11PM here on a Friday night and I have had a few beers ;) | 22:00 |
| RikMills | mamarley: great. thanks | 22:01 |
| mmikowski | RikMills: Thanks Rik. | 22:02 |
| mamarley | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455138 | 22:02 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 455138 in frameworks-plasma "Certain menus extending from panel (application launcher, calendar, network list, etc.) bump other windows out of the way" [Normal, Unconfirmed] | 22:02 |
| RikMills | mamarley: cheers. I may DM nate | 22:03 |
| mamarley | Thanks! | 22:04 |
| RikMills | If a revert commit (or fix) does not get into 5.95, I may think about doing that in packaging tomorrow | 22:07 |
| mamarley | The hardest part of tracking that one down was figuring out which package it was in. As soon as I knew which repository to look at, the commit looked fishy right away. | 22:07 |
| RikMills | indeed it does | 22:08 |
| RikMills | plasma-framework being in fw is still weird choice | 22:09 |
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