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rinzewindHi.21:52
rinzewindHi. I've just updated from Xubuntu 18.04 -> 20.04 -> 22.04 and everything went well, but there're two things that are driving a bit crazy. 1) The network indicator menu blinks when I click on it, which makes it entirely unusable. If I disable the wifi, it stays quite. 2) When using the Spanish keyboard layout, I can see the accent (') being written before I type the vowel, which looks quite ugly. I 21:52
rinzewinddon't know if this behavior can be changed somewhere.21:52
rinzewindUpdate: the accent thing also happens on Libreoffice.22:49
rinzewindSo perhaps it's a gtk setting, I don't know.22:49
tomreynoh, actually gnome-terminal on 22.04 does this, too22:56
tomreynand i assume it's actually on purpose22:56
tomreynrinzewind: ^22:56
rinzewindtomreyn: ok, thanks for the confirmation. I wonder if there's any setting somewhere to revert to the old behavior (the accent is not shown, but the entire letter + accent is there when the letter is pressed.)22:57
Unit193What indicator things do you have installed?  At this point, you shouldn't need statusnotifier and perhaps not xfce4-indicator-plugin either, if it's that old you may have a few indicator-* packagess...22:57
rinzewindI have "Status Tray Plugin", "Notification Plugin" and "Indicator Plugin".22:58
rinzewindThe "Indicator Plugin" didn't really have anything attached and I've just removed it.22:59
Unit193Perhaps remove all indicator-* packages and ensure your panel instead has xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin and xfce4-power-manager's plugin.  Fewer things to mess with there.22:59
rinzewindThe PulseAudio is there, as is the power one.23:01
rinzewindAnd all of them behave correctly. It's only the network one that has a blinking menu when I click on it.23:01
rinzewindOk, there's something else: when the menu is blinking, the keyboard doesn't respond. I have to click on the icon again so that the menu goes away, then I can use the keyboard again.23:02
tomreynrinzewind: i was just looking through    gnome-tweaks -> keyboard & mouse -> additional layout options   - which has a lot of options - but could not find it there.23:03
Unit193Right, my goal here is to ensure you don't lose anything when removing the extra stuff.  I don't expect others to be glitching.  I'm English only, so I don't really know much about Spanish input. :323:03
tomreynrinzewind: i.e. these options (if you're familiar with gnome): https://i.imgur.com/36W9UA2.png23:04
rinzewindtomreyn: Ok, I see them. Nothing there that looks like what I'm looking for, actually :-m23:06
rinzewindAnd I've been playing around with the keyboard layout, just in case I had a layout with wrong options. All do the same.23:08
tomreynthose should be configurable via gsettings. maybe some of them are not exposed there.23:08
tomreynbut this may or may not affect xfce, i don't know enough about their relation to tell.23:09
rinzewindI guess I can always set up a regular xterm to at least remove that effect from there, but just the thought makes me shudder :D23:11
rinzewindI guess I'll get used to it in the end.23:11
rinzewindAs for the blinking network menu... still a mystery. But looks to me like it's refreshing every time it finds a new network (lots of them around here.)23:11
rinzewindbrb23:16
tomreynalso while you're connected to one?23:18
rinzewindYes.23:18
tomreyna wireless network, that is23:18
rinzewindYes. The blinking stops if I disable the wifi.23:19
tomreynhmm, no idea :-/23:20
Unit193Somewhat related, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/173536723:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1735367 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "Prevent redrawing list of networks when visible" [Undecided, New]23:21
rinzewindYes, weird. I get a few seconds of "peace" before it goes nuts.23:22
rinzewindUnit193: that sounds similar to what happens to me, yes.23:22
Unit193https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/network-manager-applet/-/issues/13023:24
ubottuIssue 130 in GNOME/network-manager-applet "Position of existing menu entries should not change while the menu is open" [Opened]23:25
rinzewindOnly that my list is updating twice a second or so.23:25
rinzewindI've created a small screencast to show the problem: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wxixwdqeuvmxkto/wifi_applet_problem.mp4?dl=023:40
Unit193I mean, we believe you, there's even bug reports.  Seems the issue isn't fixed.23:43
rinzewindYes, though I think the issue is slightly different in my case. I'm opening a new bug report on Launchpad just in case.23:45
Unit193Sure, fair enough!  Not sure if someone activly monitors that, but feel free to link it here for reference.23:48
rinzewindSure, here it is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/197836323:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1978363 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "The menu blinks constantly" [Undecided, New]23:49
rinzewindOn the other hand, the accent issue is gone. I found an option in the "Language support" settings: Keyboard input method. It was set to "None", it's XIM now, and it works as expected.23:59

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