[21:52] <rinzewind> Hi.
[21:52] <rinzewind> Hi. I've just updated from Xubuntu 18.04 -> 20.04 -> 22.04 and everything went well, but there're two things that are driving a bit crazy. 1) The network indicator menu blinks when I click on it, which makes it entirely unusable. If I disable the wifi, it stays quite. 2) When using the Spanish keyboard layout, I can see the accent (') being written before I type the vowel, which looks quite ugly. I 
[21:52] <rinzewind> don't know if this behavior can be changed somewhere.
[22:49] <rinzewind> Update: the accent thing also happens on Libreoffice.
[22:49] <rinzewind> So perhaps it's a gtk setting, I don't know.
[22:56] <tomreyn> oh, actually gnome-terminal on 22.04 does this, too
[22:56] <tomreyn> and i assume it's actually on purpose
[22:56] <tomreyn> rinzewind: ^
[22:57] <rinzewind> tomreyn: ok, thanks for the confirmation. I wonder if there's any setting somewhere to revert to the old behavior (the accent is not shown, but the entire letter + accent is there when the letter is pressed.)
[22:57] <Unit193> What indicator things do you have installed?  At this point, you shouldn't need statusnotifier and perhaps not xfce4-indicator-plugin either, if it's that old you may have a few indicator-* packagess...
[22:58] <rinzewind> I have "Status Tray Plugin", "Notification Plugin" and "Indicator Plugin".
[22:59] <rinzewind> The "Indicator Plugin" didn't really have anything attached and I've just removed it.
[22:59] <Unit193> Perhaps remove all indicator-* packages and ensure your panel instead has xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin and xfce4-power-manager's plugin.  Fewer things to mess with there.
[23:01] <rinzewind> The PulseAudio is there, as is the power one.
[23:01] <rinzewind> And all of them behave correctly. It's only the network one that has a blinking menu when I click on it.
[23:02] <rinzewind> Ok, there's something else: when the menu is blinking, the keyboard doesn't respond. I have to click on the icon again so that the menu goes away, then I can use the keyboard again.
[23:03] <tomreyn> rinzewind: i was just looking through    gnome-tweaks -> keyboard & mouse -> additional layout options   - which has a lot of options - but could not find it there.
[23:03] <Unit193> Right, my goal here is to ensure you don't lose anything when removing the extra stuff.  I don't expect others to be glitching.  I'm English only, so I don't really know much about Spanish input. :3
[23:04] <tomreyn> rinzewind: i.e. these options (if you're familiar with gnome): https://i.imgur.com/36W9UA2.png
[23:06] <rinzewind> tomreyn: Ok, I see them. Nothing there that looks like what I'm looking for, actually :-m
[23:08] <rinzewind> And I've been playing around with the keyboard layout, just in case I had a layout with wrong options. All do the same.
[23:08] <tomreyn> those should be configurable via gsettings. maybe some of them are not exposed there.
[23:09] <tomreyn> but this may or may not affect xfce, i don't know enough about their relation to tell.
[23:11] <rinzewind> I guess I can always set up a regular xterm to at least remove that effect from there, but just the thought makes me shudder :D
[23:11] <rinzewind> I guess I'll get used to it in the end.
[23:11] <rinzewind> As for the blinking network menu... still a mystery. But looks to me like it's refreshing every time it finds a new network (lots of them around here.)
[23:16] <rinzewind> brb
[23:18] <tomreyn> also while you're connected to one?
[23:18] <rinzewind> Yes.
[23:18] <tomreyn> a wireless network, that is
[23:19] <rinzewind> Yes. The blinking stops if I disable the wifi.
[23:20] <tomreyn> hmm, no idea :-/
[23:21] <Unit193> Somewhat related, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/1735367
[23:21] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1735367 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "Prevent redrawing list of networks when visible" [Undecided, New]
[23:22] <rinzewind> Yes, weird. I get a few seconds of "peace" before it goes nuts.
[23:22] <rinzewind> Unit193: that sounds similar to what happens to me, yes.
[23:24] <Unit193> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/network-manager-applet/-/issues/130
[23:25] <ubottu> Issue 130 in GNOME/network-manager-applet "Position of existing menu entries should not change while the menu is open" [Opened]
[23:25] <rinzewind> Only that my list is updating twice a second or so.
[23:40] <rinzewind> I've created a small screencast to show the problem: https://www.dropbox.com/s/wxixwdqeuvmxkto/wifi_applet_problem.mp4?dl=0
[23:43] <Unit193> I mean, we believe you, there's even bug reports.  Seems the issue isn't fixed.
[23:45] <rinzewind> Yes, though I think the issue is slightly different in my case. I'm opening a new bug report on Launchpad just in case.
[23:48] <Unit193> Sure, fair enough!  Not sure if someone activly monitors that, but feel free to link it here for reference.
[23:49] <rinzewind> Sure, here it is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/1978363
[23:49] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1978363 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "The menu blinks constantly" [Undecided, New]
[23:59] <rinzewind> On the other hand, the accent issue is gone. I found an option in the "Language support" settings: Keyboard input method. It was set to "None", it's XIM now, and it works as expected.