| tomreyn | yes, i would also expect this to be the same | 00:00 |
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| gloin | murmel: so the flatpak version looks as I'd expect it to | 00:00 |
| murmel | gloin: interesting. still not done installing the desktop part :( | 00:01 |
| Jurilo | https://i.imgur.com/tufCNox.png and https://i.imgur.com/nDa4Mhk.png | 00:01 |
| goddard | yep ok figured out the issue | 00:01 |
| gloin | no fugly borders, message list and headers match theme | 00:01 |
| goddard | its bluetooth | 00:01 |
| goddard | disabled bluetooth and everything works fine | 00:01 |
| Jurilo | tomeryn, murmel: that's what I have | 00:01 |
| goddard | strange | 00:01 |
| Jurilo | tomreyn* | 00:01 |
| goddard | maybe the thunderbolt port is close to bluetooth or something? | 00:02 |
| murmel | Jurilo: second picture, click continue, there should be an option to choose which disk | 00:03 |
| tomreyn | Jurilo: okay, previously (in 2017) it looked like this: https://www.addictivetips.com/app/uploads/2017/04/ubuntu-installation-type.png | 00:04 |
| goddard | damn linux is awesome | 00:05 |
| tomreyn | murmel: i can't seem to remember such a screen (where you select the target device with automated partitioning) really. | 00:05 |
| Jurilo | murmel: unfortunately I can only select the disk on which windows is installed | 00:06 |
| tomreyn | Jurilo: so there is a selection screen? can you screenshot that, too? | 00:06 |
| murmel | I mean this is 20.04, but I can clearly choose https://imgur.com/a/rLc6eY9 | 00:09 |
| tomreyn | that's a system with two disks, one with windows installed, the windows install detected? | 00:10 |
| Jurilo | OKay so the problem is when I choose 'Erase disk and install' with advanced option for LVM and encryption, the next step is for password for LVM and the button in right bottom corner is 'Install Now' | 00:10 |
| murmel | tomreyn: no, as it's a new vm, but I am sure that it's the same, as I installed a system like that on a friends pc | 00:10 |
| tomreyn | (and UEFI booting?) | 00:10 |
| Jurilo | If I don't select LVM and ecryption I actually can select disk like on this screenshot that murmel have sent | 00:11 |
| murmel | yes | 00:11 |
| tomreyn | Jurilo: oh that makes sense | 00:11 |
| tomreyn | thanks murmel | 00:11 |
| Jurilo | I just don't dare to click Install Now | 00:11 |
| Jurilo | As it could wipe my Windows installation | 00:12 |
| murmel | tomreyn: imo it doesn't make sense | 00:12 |
| tomreyn | well, full disk encryption will take one full disk (the non windows one) and use it for ubuntu. so no choice there | 00:12 |
| murmel | shouldn't fde be just the linux part? | 00:13 |
| tomreyn | you could actually do that on the windows disk, too, unless it's a 'dynamic disk' | 00:13 |
| Jurilo | So the question is, is it possible to choose the exact disk I want to erase and do LVM+encryption install? | 00:13 |
| tomreyn | yes, murmel | 00:13 |
| Jurilo | How can I be sure that it will select the non-windows one? | 00:13 |
| Jurilo | I have 4 disks here | 00:13 |
| tomreyn | oh, i thought you had 2 | 00:13 |
| Jurilo | 1 windows, 1 erased, two for zfs mirror | 00:14 |
| murmel | tomreyn: the weird part is he can only choose the one which has windows on it when encryption | 00:14 |
| tomreyn | okay, then i don't know where it will install to | 00:14 |
| tomreyn | murmel: where do you see this? | 00:14 |
| murmel | 2~ | 00:16 |
| Jurilo | 1. https://i.imgur.com/YhaHA6i.png 2. https://i.imgur.com/NMJVMYf.png | 00:16 |
| tomreyn | Jurilo: generally, you should backups before you install a new OS. i hope you did. that said, I suggest you just give it a try. i *really* doubt that your windows installation will be overwritten. | 00:16 |
| murmel | 00:06 < Jurilo> murmel: unfortunately I can only select the disk on which windows is installed << this is what Jurilo said | 00:17 |
| tomreyn | oops, looks like i'm getting tired, sorry | 00:17 |
| murmel | no problem :) | 00:18 |
| tomreyn | Jurilo: can you also screenshot this screen where you can only select the disk windows is installed on? | 00:19 |
| tomreyn | unless you meant this one? https://i.imgur.com/nDa4Mhk.png | 00:20 |
| Jurilo | Before that I have this https://i.imgur.com/diIFhTQ.png | 00:21 |
| Jurilo | No, sorry I may be wrong, installer automatically tells me about the Window Boot Manager | 00:22 |
| Jurilo | I didn't select it before that | 00:22 |
| Jurilo | the point is when I choose LVM+encryption with option 'Erase disk and install Ubuntu', I can set password and click 'Install Now' | 00:23 |
| Jurilo | I don't know what's beyond that | 00:23 |
| Jurilo | maybe it'll allow me to sellect disk | 00:23 |
| Jurilo | but not 100% sure | 00:23 |
| tomreyn | i don't think it does | 00:23 |
| tomreyn | i'm just creating a clone of a windows vm to give this a try, but it'll take time. | 00:24 |
| murmel | gloin: which "window" was it again in evolution? calendar? | 00:24 |
| gloin | 00:25 | |
| gloin | What I was seeing was a light widget bar, dark message list, dark message headers, dark message border, light message | 00:25 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Jurilo: The easiest way to keep from wiping the wrong disk would probably be to unplug everything but the disk you want Linux on. | 00:26 |
| murmel | gloin: for me everything is fine, except the headerbar :/ | 00:26 |
| gloin | murmel: which theme? | 00:26 |
| gloin | light or? | 00:26 |
| Jurilo | arraybolt3[m]: Win is on nvme :( I would need to get it out of motherboard | 00:26 |
| murmel | yaru-light | 00:26 |
| gloin | ah | 00:26 |
| gloin | As I said, whatever caused it on my system went away with the flatpak install. | 00:27 |
| arraybolt3[m] | Jurilo: NVMe drives just unscrew and pop right out. | 00:27 |
| murmel | gloin oO okay | 00:27 |
| * gloin shrugs | 00:28 | |
| gloin | it's Friday afternoon here, why am I even pretending to work now :D | 00:29 |
| murmel | gloin: lucky you :) for me it's already after midnight | 00:29 |
| gloin | hah | 00:29 |
| gloin | get some rest | 00:29 |
| murmel | not yet | 00:29 |
| tomreyn | my experiment failed, i don't have a windows uefi installation. | 00:37 |
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| goddard | finally figured out the source of the issue | 01:20 |
| goddard | it is entirely dependent on the CPU | 01:21 |
| goddard | if the cpu tries to cycle down too much then the eGPU displays suffer and so does everything else | 01:21 |
| goddard | i have it set to performance mode in gnome settings though | 01:21 |
| goddard | how can i stop linux or gnome or whatever from dropping my cpu too low | 01:21 |
| murmel | goddard: performance doesn't mean that the cpu doesn't downclock | 01:21 |
| sarnold | processor performance has way too many knobs grown over too many decades | 01:22 |
| goddard | murmel: i think its downclock is too low when you have an egpu connected | 01:23 |
| goddard | i wonder if something like this would help https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkYRpVEEIlg | 01:24 |
| murmel | goddard: yeah if i remember correctly you can set a min clock with that | 01:25 |
| sarnold | there's probably a dozen of those; one of them might even be the thing causing you trouble now :) | 01:26 |
| goddard | sarnold: haha ya you might be right it was perfect before attaching the eGPU | 01:26 |
| sarnold | look for tuned, thermald, gamemode, cpupower, tlp... | 01:26 |
| sarnold | goddard: it could be using the on-board graphics was enough to keep the cpu in higher-power states | 01:27 |
| goddard | ya | 01:27 |
| goddard | all i had to do was run Steam and everything was fixed | 01:28 |
| goddard | does Valve have some magic it does to the OS when it runs, or is it just a demanding app? | 01:28 |
| goddard | just downloading a game not even playing | 01:28 |
| murmel | goddard: it's just electron xD | 01:28 |
| goddard | it is? | 01:29 |
| murmel | ye | 01:29 |
| goddard | i thought it pre-dated electron | 01:29 |
| murmel | I was pretty sure, that steam is just a browser app, same with all the other launchers | 01:29 |
| murmel | goddard: especially since steam has a browser integrated (based on chromium) | 01:30 |
| goddard | Did it publish the code for its Steam Deck interface | 01:31 |
| goddard | i know they published lots of stuff | 01:31 |
| murmel | goddard: at least their github profile says no | 01:32 |
| sarnold | goddard: it's possible running steam runs gamemode | 01:33 |
| goddard | i was just looking it is installed | 01:34 |
| murmel | yeah but that's installed by default, so probably | 01:34 |
| goddard | its always installed by ubuntu desktop? | 01:35 |
| murmel | goddard: yes | 01:35 |
| goddard | oh | 01:35 |
| murmel | since 20.04 or something like that | 01:36 |
| goddard | its the little things you don't notice | 01:36 |
| InPhase | Has anyone seen or heard of any serious libc-bin 2.35 bugs? Somehow my whole system hosed itself and refused to launch lightdm, and the only system change was I installed a pdf editor xournal, which picked up a set of packages: https://bpa.st/DONQ I think the only one on the list that should be able to impact lightdm's startup is libc-bin. | 02:09 |
| InPhase | The system still works fine from a usb boot. | 02:10 |
| tomreyn | which command generated the output in this paste? | 02:11 |
| tomreyn | and which ubuntu version is this? | 02:12 |
| InPhase | tomreyn: I extracted it from dpkg.log manually after booting into a usb system and mounting the drive. | 02:12 |
| InPhase | And it's xubuntu 22.04 | 02:12 |
| tomreyn | InPhase: so you#re saying installing xournal caused libc-bin to be installed? | 02:14 |
| tomreyn | that would be strange because that's an essential package, which is installed by default | 02:15 |
| InPhase | I do not know if it was an install or an upgrade. I don't see any clear indication of which it would have been in the dpkg.log | 02:15 |
| InPhase | But I would assume an upgrade. | 02:15 |
| tomreyn | /var/log/apt/history.log would know | 02:15 |
| InPhase | Let me check for details there. | 02:16 |
| tomreyn | it's not unusual that you'd want to reboot after installing a patched libc-bin | 02:17 |
| InPhase | I rebooted simply because I went home from work in this case. | 02:17 |
| tomreyn | are there other pending updates when you sudo apt update && sudo apt -f install && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt full-upgrade ? | 02:18 |
| InPhase | This is the apt/history.log next to the dpkg.log for the same event. https://bpa.st/LTTA | 02:20 |
| InPhase | There were other pending upgrades, which I attempted to upgrade to resolve it, but this did not repair it. | 02:20 |
| tomreyn | libc6-bin is 2.35-0ubuntu3 which matches for jammy | 02:22 |
| InPhase | Perhaps the dpkg.log syntax of "status installed" is just a deceptive phrasing, and it was only reporting a status after running the triggers? | 02:22 |
| tomreyn | no unpacking of libc-bin took place there, it was already installed in this version | 02:24 |
| tomreyn | "status installed" just means that that is its current status, it doesn't necessarily mean that it just reached this status | 02:24 |
| InPhase | Ah yes, thank you. There is indeed not an unpacked line. | 02:25 |
| tomreyn | and there's no upgrade line for libc-bin in history.log apparently | 02:25 |
| tomreyn | there is also terminal.log which has more details on what apt actually did / asked dpkg to do | 02:26 |
| tomreyn | history.log is more the why did apt do so, but it can be misleading, when actions get cancelled | 02:26 |
| tomreyn | if you have 3rd party apt repositories, make sure they are actually compatible and maintained | 02:28 |
| tomreyn | make sure you have all update installed using the series of apt commands above | 02:28 |
| tomreyn | check for installed packages which wil not receive updates / security patches: apt list --installed | grep ',local]$' | 02:29 |
| tomreyn | to share your configured apt repositories: sudo grep -hEv '^([ ]*#.*)?$' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list} 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 | 02:30 |
| tomreyn | InPhase: ^ | 02:30 |
| InPhase | tomreyn: I'm unable to do that, as I blundered earlier while working in a console-only tunnel, and broke it a lot worse. So for now I can only see the files, and then I will reinstall on top. But I was attempting to discern what went wrong first so as to not repeat it. | 02:33 |
| InPhase | I did in fact have the slack repository as a 3rd party though. | 02:33 |
| tomreyn | that would not be my primary suspect | 02:34 |
| InPhase | Is there an apt record which would show me where each installed package came from? | 02:36 |
| InPhase | I could search through it to see if the system was assaulted by a bad base package. | 02:37 |
| tomreyn | InPhase: no. you can only inspect what's installed now, what was apparently installed when (according to the apt + dpkg logs discussed above) and inspect the current state of which packages and versions are available from where. | 02:40 |
| InPhase | I see in the /var/lib/apt/lists/ for that repository that it contains no packages other than slack-desktop, so they did not replace any system packages. | 02:41 |
| tomreyn | you're seeing the *current* state of what's available from this repository there. | 02:44 |
| InPhase | Well the apt install that I suspect broke it, and the apt update I last did, were only about 2.5 hours apart. | 02:48 |
| InPhase | I also did not apt update before the install. So if it were them they would have had to put the bad thing in 27-some hours previously, and then remove it within 2.5 hours of me doing the install. Possible, but it seems unlikely as an explanation. | 02:50 |
| tomreyn | InPhase: you may also wantto review the system logs (systemd journal) and what was logged when lightdm failed to start. | 02:53 |
| InPhase | tomreyn: I did hunt through those a good bit, but all it revealed was that X crashed. | 02:54 |
| tomreyn | my guess is that you just didn't reboot after installing an update to some essential package which required it. | 02:54 |
| InPhase | I had rebooted that morning when I got to work, and the last upgrade was an automatic security upgrade the previous day. So it made it through a prior upgrade. | 02:54 |
| InPhase | s/that morning/this morning/ | 02:55 |
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| tomreyn | hmm, then maybe broken file system / disk / ram | 02:55 |
| tomreyn | but you should see indications on thos in the system logs | 02:56 |
| * tomreyn off, good luck! | 02:56 | |
| InPhase | Those all seem pretty stable. I just did a full disk backup. | 02:56 |
| InPhase | Since the problem that is, running it from the usb system. | 02:57 |
| InPhase | Thanks for the efforts tomreyn. If anyone else has other theories, please let me know. | 02:58 |
| jhutchins | InPhase: You might try un-installing the viewer and it's dependencies. | 03:00 |
| jhutchins | InPhase: I suppose it's possible that the viewer is loading some background component that's killing your GUI. | 03:01 |
| jhutchins | InPhase: What pdf viewer was it, from what source? | 03:01 |
| InPhase | xournal | 03:01 |
| jhutchins | !info xournal | 03:02 |
| ubottu | xournal (1:0.4.8.2016-7build1, jammy): GTK+ Application for note taking. In component universe, is optional. Built by xournal. Size 299 kB / 1,017 kB | 03:02 |
| jhutchins | That sounds like something that might run a widget for the panel or something like that. | 03:02 |
| jhutchins | InPhase: You should be able to boot to rescue/single mode without the GUI, poke around a bit there. | 03:03 |
| InPhase | Well it was lightdm itself that failed to launch. Panels should not open at that stage. | 03:03 |
| jhutchins | True. | 03:04 |
| jhutchins | I see logs in /var/log/lightdm/ | 03:05 |
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| mattf_ | i am trying to use godot over vnc and i got this error: Your system does not support XInput 2. Please upgrade your distribution. | 03:13 |
| mattf_ | if i run xinput i get: X input extension not available. | 03:14 |
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| enigma9o7[m] | both ends ubuntu? | 04:28 |
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| InPhase | So I managed to get back into my system and force lightdm to come up by booting into root mode, doing "systemctl start lightdm", and then continuing with the boot process. So X works, lightdm works, and systemd seems to be failing to start it the normal way? | 06:17 |
| InPhase | I'm confused about what is going wrong here. | 06:17 |
| InPhase | Although I suppose lightdm is still very wonky. It does not lock with light-locker without terminating at unlock, and even just doing ctrl-alt-f1 and back to f7 crashes lightdm and it returns to the login screen. | 06:30 |
| InPhase | Well, that was a spectacular waste of 9 hours. After I got far enough down the logic path to do the repair, I resolved it by getting rid of lightdm entirely and just using sddm. I don't know how that could have gotten into such a bad state, but at least 9 hours of prodding at it later my system functions properly again. | 07:16 |
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| wizard1 | hi | 08:09 |
| wizard1 | i have question | 08:09 |
| wizard1 | can any body answer me | 08:09 |
| ducasse | !ask | 08:09 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 08:09 |
| wizard1 | i have questions about tor | 08:10 |
| wizard1 | browser | 08:10 |
| wizard1 | i open tor and it works | 08:10 |
| wizard1 | right? | 08:10 |
| wizard1 | then | 08:10 |
| wizard1 | are you there? | 08:10 |
| wizard1 | i wana connect tor browser to my whole system | 08:11 |
| ogra | you probably want to ask in a tor related channel then ... | 08:12 |
| ogra | !alis | 08:12 |
| ubottu | Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see «/msg Alis help list» or ask in #libera - Example usage: «/msg Alis list http» | 08:12 |
| wizard1 | i go to setting<network<networkproxy | 08:12 |
| wizard1 | yeah but can you answer me | 08:12 |
| wizard1 | ? | 08:12 |
| Unit193 | For tor and tor browser, you generally want #tor on OFTC. | 08:13 |
| ogra | no, tor is not part of ubuntu ... | 08:13 |
| wizard1 | yeah | 08:13 |
| wizard1 | thanks | 08:13 |
| wizard1 | by | 08:13 |
| ogra | good luck | 08:13 |
| ogra | bah | 08:13 |
| Unit193 | Welp, looks like he never made it... | 08:22 |
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| PowaBanga | quelqu'un saurait-il m'aider à props de vim ? | 08:59 |
| PowaBanga | j'essaye d'installer des plugin | 08:59 |
| ice9 | I installed ubuntu 22.04 on top of windows 11 but it still only boots into windows right a way, any idea? | 09:00 |
| PowaBanga | du coup je vais dans mon /etc/vim/vimrc, et j'ajoute cette ligne : `Plugin 'nathanaelkane/vim-indent-guides'` | 09:00 |
| PowaBanga | on I am on english chan sorry | 09:00 |
| notwez | PowaBanga: Lets English | 09:02 |
| notwez | Proper English, like spelling gaol as gaol instead of jail. | 09:02 |
| PowaBanga | yes sorry, i was in the wrong channel | 09:02 |
| guest-je89jr | W | 10:09 |
| guest-je89jr | SIEMA | 10:09 |
| guest-je89jr | JEBAC DIA | 10:09 |
| guest-je89jr | DISA | 10:09 |
| tomreyn | ice9: you installed ubuntu while booting in bios mode, but windows is installed in uefi mode | 10:27 |
| ice9 | tomreyn, no, I'm using UEFI mode in both cases | 10:28 |
| tomreyn | ice9: does the grub menu show, though? do you get into the grub CLI when you hit escape repeatedly during boot? | 10:31 |
| ice9 | tomreyn, no, it only loads windows immediately | 10:32 |
| tomreyn | do you select 'ubuntu' for the system to boot from the boot menu? | 10:32 |
| ice9 | no grub shown at all | 10:32 |
| tomreyn | i assume that on 22.04, Ubuntu may no longer set grub as the default bootloader when installing alongside Windows, i.e. you'll need to use the uefi/bios provided boot menu to choose what to boot into | 10:34 |
| Jeremy31 | Some manufacturers don't allow Linux to change the uefi boot order | 10:35 |
| ledeni | ice9, you should see grub menu if you press shift button on boot | 10:44 |
| webchat74 | hi guys, i've installed the ubuntu 22.04 server from scratch but when i try to run "apt-get uprade" it will return | 10:45 |
| webchat74 | https://paste.debian.net/plain/1243778 | 10:46 |
| webchat74 | i've also tried to switch to main archive.ubuntu.com and it return the same stuff, any tips to solve it? | 10:46 |
| webchat74 | it seems a hash mismatch on the apt repo | 10:47 |
| tomreyn | webchat74: have you tried to do what the message suggests? | 10:52 |
| tomreyn | "maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing" | 10:53 |
| webchat74 | tomreyn yes and also "rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*" or "apt-get clean" | 10:54 |
| webchat74 | as suggested from stackoverflow | 10:54 |
| KBar | Reread the command you issued. You might have mistyped that command | 10:56 |
| KBar | `rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists *` would have deleted other important files | 10:56 |
| KBar | that is, look in your command history and make sure you didn't put an extra space before the asterisk | 10:57 |
| tomreyn | ^ do not run this command | 10:57 |
| KBar | yeah, as a rule of thumb: never run rm -rf in such directories | 10:58 |
| webchat74 | damn | 10:58 |
| KBar | if the file was written there with extra priviliges, then its there for a reason | 10:58 |
| webchat74 | i've rechecked the dirs and it seems recreated without any issue | 10:58 |
| tomreyn | KBar: it's better not to type commands here which can cause data loss, even when you explain, in context, how it's bad to run those | 10:58 |
| KBar | tomreyn: absolutely agreed, sorry for that. but to be fair, i wasn't the one who suggested so... | 10:59 |
| tomreyn | there was originally no blank space before the asterisk ;) | 10:59 |
| KBar | still a destructive command | 11:00 |
| tomreyn | yes | 11:00 |
| tomreyn | webchat74: you can run this whole line, or the commands one by one (they are seperated by ";") to gather information in /tmp/aptlog, then post it online: sudo grep -hEv '^([ ]*#.*)?$' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list} >>/tmp/aptlog 2>&1; sudo apt-get -y update >>/tmp/aptlog 2>&1; apt-cache policy >>/tmp/aptlog 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade >>/tmp/aptlog 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog && rm /tmp/aptlog | 11:02 |
| tomreyn | webchat74: don't try to type copy this, it will most likley go wrong | 11:03 |
| tomreyn | webchat74: sorry, there was a typo in there, use this: sudo grep -hEv '^([ ]*#.*)?$' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list} >>/tmp/aptlog 2>&1; sudo apt-get -y update >>/tmp/aptlog 2>&1; apt-cache policy >>/tmp/aptlog 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade >>/tmp/aptlog 2>&1; nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog && rm /tmp/aptlog | 11:04 |
| iomari891 | greetings, WHy is there no deadsnakes repo for 21.10? | 11:08 |
| tomreyn | iomari891: are you referring to a PPA? | 11:09 |
| tomreyn | !ppa | iomari891 | 11:09 |
| ubottu | iomari891: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge | 11:09 |
| tomreyn | webchat74: how are you doing, need any more help with this? | 11:10 |
| iomari891 | yes | 11:11 |
| tomreyn | iomari891: did you read the "PPA description" at https://launchpad.net/~deadsnakes/+archive/ubuntu/ppa ? | 11:14 |
| tomreyn | iomari891: and are you aware that 21.10 will reach end of life next month? | 11:16 |
| iomari891 | tomreyn: I'm updating next week but I need python 3.8 immediately and I'm trying to avoid having to install it from a tarball. I will if I have to but I really don't want to. | 11:18 |
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| iomari891 | I guess I'll wait until I upgrade next week. Thanks | 11:20 |
| tomreyn | iomari891: or use a 20.04 chroot, container or VM | 11:21 |
| webchat74 | tomreyn sry for the delay, i'm trying it now | 11:46 |
| webchat74 | https://termbin.com/mo8u | 11:49 |
| tomreyn | webchat74: no rush. it's just that people with nicknames starting with "webchat" tend to just disconnect miraculously, so i was trying to make sure you didn't miss the latest replies. | 11:50 |
| webchat74 | sure np | 11:51 |
| tomreyn | webchat74: you have 45 pending updates, try installing those first | 11:51 |
| webchat74 | ok | 11:52 |
| clarkk | When do the .save files get generated in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory? | 11:53 |
| tomreyn | webchat74: actually, the warnings about the hash mismatch seems to already be gone, so i guess it was just a mirror synch in progress. | 11:54 |
| tomreyn | clarkk: during release upgrades, i think. possibly also by the GUI. | 11:55 |
| clarkk | tomreyn, are they important in order to get packages? | 11:58 |
| tomreyn | clarkk: "the GUI" being /usr/bin/software-properties-* - but potentially also one of the other graphical apt frontends for software updates and installations | 11:59 |
| tomreyn | clarkk: those are just 'backup' copies, in case you or the software makes a mistake while editing them | 11:59 |
| clarkk | ah, ok. Thanks! | 11:59 |
| tomreyn | with release upgrades, it helps you compare your current (updated, to the new release codename) version of this .list file to the previous (.save) one | 12:00 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:10 |
| webchat74 | tomreyn i've updated all the packages and i've the same issue https://termbin.com/9gea | 12:45 |
| webchat74 | more info here: https://paste.debian.net/1243784/ | 12:46 |
| pycurious | Yesterday one of my drives got corrupted on an ec2 instance. For some reason, that also emptied out /etc/resolve.conf (which was linked to stub-resolv.conf). I tried to put "nameservers" in there, but when I boot and do sudo -i, I get sudo: unable to resolve host ip-11-11-6-17: Name or service not known — any ideas on how to fix my name resolution? | 12:49 |
| tomreyn | webchat74: hmm, and if you use archive.ubuntu.com rather than it.archive.ubuntu.com ? | 12:49 |
| pycurious | found the solution - needed an entry in /etc/hosts | 12:51 |
| webchat74 | tomreyn already tried, that pastebin is based by archive.ubuntu.com not "IT....." | 12:52 |
| tomreyn | webchat74: whoops, sorry. | 12:54 |
| webchat74 | np it can be a bug? | 12:55 |
| BluesKaj | pycurious, don't forget /etc/hostname as well | 12:56 |
| descent1 | is there a 3d game creation software in ubuntu? something like unity maybe | 13:16 |
| PeGaSuS | I'm going nuts. I've requested a dedicated server from OVH, from their Eco branch. supposedly it has 3x2TB disks, but `df -h` shows /dev/md3 with only 1.8TB.. what am I missing? | 13:17 |
| ravage | the difference between Terabyte (TB) and Tebibyte (TiB) | 13:18 |
| ravage | and if its really 3x2TB i would check if they are all part of the raid | 13:25 |
| webchat74 | tomreyn the only solution for now download manually linux-firmware_20220329.git681281e4-0ubuntu1_all.deb and install it | 13:25 |
| superkuh | Hi. Is there a specific channel for questions about Snaps and snapd? I am curious about how separate snap containers can use the same shared library file. | 13:31 |
| superkuh | Do separate snaps actually load files from within other snaps? | 13:32 |
| superkuh | Like, if libwhatever.so is in the GNOME snap, does Unrelated Snap package actually oad the libwhatever.so from within the GNOME snap file on disk? | 13:32 |
| superkuh | I was under the impression that every snap had it's own entire environment inside. | 13:33 |
| superkuh | But I've been told that's wrong. | 13:33 |
| ravage | superkuh, #snappy | 13:36 |
| superkuh | Thanks. | 13:37 |
| tomreyn | descent1: godot3 | 13:48 |
| descent1 | ah coolio | 13:48 |
| Guest59 | Tak co vy curaci | 14:18 |
| Guest59 | Kterej curacek mi poradí jak mám udělat web server | 14:19 |
| leftyfb | !ck | Guest59 | 14:19 |
| tomreyn | !cz | 14:19 |
| ubottu | České uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme. | 14:19 |
| leftyfb | it's early for me :) | 14:20 |
| tomreyn | check | 14:20 |
| tomreyn | i mean czech | 14:20 |
| ActionMan | Hi. Running Ubuntu server 20.04 LTS (headless). When signing in it shows "Usage of /: 82.3% of 28.73GB" which, I think, is much higher than it was. Here's that info on pastebin: https://pastebin.com/ChJSrbxZ | 14:21 |
| Guest59 | Polib mi prdel | 14:21 |
| tomreyn | !pl | Guest59 | 14:21 |
| ubottu | Guest59: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl. | 14:21 |
| leftyfb | ActionMan: sudo ncdu / | 14:22 |
| ActionMan | df -h gets me this https://pastebin.com/KkTiiiiT | 14:22 |
| ActionMan | ok leftyfb | 14:22 |
| leftyfb | ActionMan: you might have to install ncdu | 14:23 |
| PeGaSuS | damn. I quit. OVH is such a pain. I don't understand RAID and I don't know what to do :/ | 14:23 |
| tomreyn | PeGaSuS: you can get support with ubuntu here and with ovh in #ovh (to a degree). but it's good to first read up on concepts such as RAID if you're going to use those. | 14:24 |
| ravage | PeGaSuS, this is really the wrong channel but my guess it that they do a RAID1 with 2 SSDs and just leave the 3rd untouched. cat /proc/mdstat | 14:25 |
| leftyfb | or contact OVH for support with their services | 14:26 |
| ActionMan | OK I installed and ran sudo ncdu / ----> https://pastebin.com/XQJgwUXZ | 14:26 |
| ActionMan | I had been looking at this as a possible solution https://bit.ly/3O6AW6X | 14:28 |
| leftyfb | ActionMan: you only have a 30G partition with 4GB swap. You're down to about 25G for the entire OS, you're going to run out of space if you don't constantly keep it clean and don't save a lot of files | 14:32 |
| ActionMan | it's a small ssd drive ... probably 30gb | 14:33 |
| tomreyn | ActionMan: you seem to have files in /mnt (or subdirectories) which are stored on the / file system, so not on other file systems mounted there, which is an unusual situation. | 14:34 |
| leftyfb | tomreyn: it's definitely mounted | 14:34 |
| tomreyn | oh wait this is ncdu, ignore this. | 14:34 |
| tomreyn | << not awake either | 14:35 |
| leftyfb | ActionMan: there's not much you can do. Stick /home on another drive. That's about it. But you're still going to need to clean up old package caches and linux kernels and keep an eye on it | 14:35 |
| tomreyn | if the goal is to determine what's stored where on the / file system only, you should be running sudo ncdu -x / | 14:37 |
| ActionMan | I keep it pretty clean there are only two kernels I believe | 14:38 |
| tomreyn | maybe you can delete some old snap versions | 14:40 |
| tomreyn | and clear the snap cache | 14:40 |
| tomreyn | but that would only help temporarily | 14:40 |
| ActionMan | right | 14:42 |
| ActionMan | /var/lib/snapd/snaps has 463MB which isn't really enough to cause a problem | 14:43 |
| PeGaSuS | my `fdisk -l` and `cat /proc/mdstat` output: https://0bin.xyz/?ca4cef197a4d7cc9#4pjNbahdrJWxcgFJbfB3GHiSGt3KB3Y587cr4e6MKQvC | 14:47 |
| tomreyn | ActionMan: so your goal is to do what exactly? have less space allocated on / ? i have a minimal ubuntu server installation with a total disk usage of 3.9 GB according to ncdu. but it will depend on what you have installed, of course. | 14:49 |
| ActionMan | no... maybe it's too early for me as well. when I saw this Usage of /: 82.3% of 28.73GB I thought it meant the drive was almost full and now I'm realizing all that means is that is the percentage of the drive allocated to / | 14:50 |
| ActionMan | please correct me | 14:50 |
| ActionMan | I was fairly certain that % used to be much lower | 14:51 |
| PeGaSuS | it is explicit: you're currently using 82.3% of your entire disk space which is 28.73GB | 14:51 |
| ActionMan | ok | 14:52 |
| murmel | PeGaSuS: no its 82.3% of 28.73 not 82.3% is 28.73 | 14:53 |
| tomreyn | <tomreyn> if the goal is to determine what's stored where on the / file system only, you should be running sudo ncdu -x / | 14:54 |
| PeGaSuS | erm. that's what I said, I think? | 14:55 |
| PeGaSuS | probably some lack of punctuation | 14:55 |
| murmel | PeGaSuS: ahh, sorry, I misunderstood your sentence :x | 14:57 |
| PeGaSuS | murmel: no worries. since I'm not a native english speaker I may make mistakes :D | 14:57 |
| ActionMan | I resized the logical volume and then resized the file system and it seems to have fixed the problem as per here: https://pastebin.com/JnAdwJpu | 15:01 |
| ActionMan | Thank you for your time. | 15:01 |
| ActionMan | Sorry I clicked out by mistake. | 15:03 |
| ActionMan | Anyway, things seem back to normal. | 15:03 |
| centHOGG | good job! | 15:03 |
| ravage | PeGaSuS, see if their interface offers a RAID5 install. the current setup is not ideal really | 15:04 |
| ActionMan | FWIW I also cleaned up snap but that was minor. | 15:04 |
| centHOGG | snap = free crossover linux | 15:05 |
| PeGaSuS | ravage: unfortunately seems I'm stuck with a RAID1 setup. | 15:10 |
| ravage | maybe open a support ticket then. | 15:11 |
| PeGaSuS | opened a support ticket relatd to IPv6 almost 3 days ago and got no answer. they're not very good at support. but their prices are kinda cheap | 15:14 |
| ravage | well. there may be a relation here :) | 15:14 |
| riskyexpert | hello does anyone here use docker and iptables I need some help with an ubuntu server | 15:16 |
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| ActionMan | full disclosure: I had also mistakenly rsynced some folders to the SSD drive with the OS instead of the back up drives - which, apparently, weren't mounted when I ran the command. So I cleaned that up as well. | 15:46 |
| Guest5945 | 1234567890 | 15:58 |
| Guest5945 | 1234567890 | 15:58 |
| Guest5945 | 1234567890 | 15:58 |
| Guest5945 | 1234567890 | 15:58 |
| Guest5945 | 1234567890 | 15:58 |
| oerheks | !ot | Guest5945 | 15:58 |
| ubottu | Guest5945: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 15:58 |
| Maik | that's not even considered as offtopic but spamming/trolling | 15:59 |
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| iomari891 | how can I have python3.7.13 and 3.7.7 installed at the same time? | 16:02 |
| oerheks | iomari891, i would not want to try that, use a vm if you need that other version | 16:05 |
| oerheks | python is too deep integrated, changing and changing back can be interesting. | 16:06 |
| ravage | lxd is a good way to keep things separated | 16:07 |
| iomari891 | oerheks: thanks | 16:13 |
| iomari891 | oerheks: actualy, it's only for virtual environment. Is that still a risk? | 16:15 |
| tomreyn | my question would rather be: what is *so* version specific that you actually need to? | 16:18 |
| tomreyn | there is this deadsnakes PPA, which can provide additional python versions on specific ubuntu releases: https://launchpad.net/~deadsnakes/+archive/ubuntu/ppa | 16:20 |
| tomreyn | i would not recommend replacing or mixing with the system level python installation on any ubuntu release. but you can use /usr/local if you don't add it to PATH, or any of the common compartmentalization or containerization approaches usually recommended by python and available on ubuntu. | 16:23 |
| iomari891 | My real need is venv. I already have 3.7.13 but I also need 3.7.7. | 16:28 |
| murmel | iomari891: still doesn't explain why you need 2 explicit subversions | 16:29 |
| oerheks | 3.7.7 is not in deadsnakes | 16:30 |
| oerheks | so, good luck with a venv, my advise is a VM, kvm or others | 16:30 |
| murmel | yeah if really needed I would probably go with a toolbox/distrobox/lxd/kvm environment, so you can still have easy access to your ~ or the likes | 16:32 |
| iomari891 | oerheks: just spoke to client. THey don't need 3.7.13 so it's all cool. | 16:33 |
| iomari891 | thanks all | 16:33 |
| iomari891 | out of curiousity, if you reach the eol of 21.10, is there any way to upgrade? | 17:03 |
| murmel | iomari891: yes | 17:04 |
| murmel | !eolupgrade | 17:04 |
| ubottu | End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 17:04 |
| iomari891 | murmel: thanks | 17:05 |
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| sicfus | hello | 19:16 |
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| Chalky | Can someone point me to site that can assist me install my AC12000 wifi dongle? | 19:33 |
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| Guest446 | hi | 19:39 |
| Guest446 | how to fix that error? | 19:39 |
| Guest446 | Could not load dynamic library 'libcudart.so.11.0'; dlerror: libcudart.so.11.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 19:39 |
| Guest446 | im on ubuntu 22.04 | 19:39 |
| Guest446 | apt install nvidia-cuda-toolkit ? | 19:39 |
| Guest446 | i look here: https://dominoc925.blogspot.com/2021/08/how-to-install-cuda-11-on-ubuntu-2004.html | 19:40 |
| Guest446 | but that is not working | 19:40 |
| lotuspsychje | Guest446: i usualy reccomed linuxconfig tutorials; https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-cuda-on-ubuntu-20-04-focal-fossa-linux | 19:54 |
| lotuspsychje | Chalky: for AC wifi chipsets, you might wanna browse around the current/recent bug list to see if its been reported yet | 19:56 |
| Chalky | Sorted thanks ! | 19:57 |
| lotuspsychje | Chalky: what was the culprit? | 19:57 |
| Chalky | The drive had been updated from the one I was first refered too. | 19:59 |
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| phox_ | Hi! I'm trying to connect a microphone with a 3.5mm connector to the headset jack on my laptop. The system seems to think it's headphones. How can I tell Ubuntu it's a microphone? | 20:41 |
| oerheks | headset jack? | 20:42 |
| oerheks | not | 20:43 |
| oerheks | only the mic jack works | 20:43 |
| oerheks | and if it is combined, you need an adapter | 20:43 |
| phox_ | oerheks, Hm ok. But the symbol on the output shows a headsit with microphone? :P Ok maybe it doesn't work. | 20:43 |
| oerheks | https://www.bol.com/nl/nl/p/headset-splitter-adapter-hoofdtelefoon-microfoon-3-5-mm-jack/9300000001645860/ | 20:45 |
| phox_ | oerheks, thanks :) Maybe i'll get one of those then. Do you think one from usb to headset+microphone would work as well? | 20:46 |
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| oerheks | usb mic is prefferred, that analog mic is a little sensitive | 20:49 |
| oerheks | touch the wire and you will notice | 20:49 |
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| noarb | When manually making network adjustments in initramfs (like `ip addr add ...`), do these interfaces need to be "flushed" or reset before init execs the /sbin/init on the new root filesystem? Is bringing an interface down enough to clear its configuration? | 22:01 |
| Luc1f3r | is there anybody in here? | 22:30 |
| murmel | yes, but as long as you don't ask anything, nobody can answer you Luc1f3r | 22:31 |
| Luc1f3r | thanks, it's been milennium since I use mirc... xD | 22:33 |
| circuitbone | still the same, lots of less netsplits :) | 22:40 |
| tidux | how do I turn off NLA for gnome-remote-desktop in 22.04 from the shell? | 22:43 |
| tidux | I have a remote system I can't get into and the grdctl documentation is worse than useless, even "help/--help" doesn't work | 22:43 |
| tidux | I have an SSH session on the box with full sudo access, but I need to remote-control an existing GNOME Wayland session via RDP | 22:44 |
| tomreyn | tidux: fwiw, i've been able to connect to the ubuntu 22.04/wayland session using, on the same host: /usr/bin/wlfreerdp /cert:ignore /u:x /d: /p:x /v:127.0.0.1 | 23:05 |
| tomreyn | i'm not sure whether / how this will help you with ssh, though | 23:06 |
| tidux | tomreyn: it ended up being an upstream bug in gnome-remote-desktop https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-remote-desktop/-/issues/16 | 23:07 |
| ubottu | Issue 16 in GNOME/gnome-remote-desktop "Remote desktop with locked local screen" [Opened] | 23:07 |
| tomreyn | there still seem to be a bunch around GRD | 23:08 |
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| tomreyn | the other day i made the service segfault by connecting (but could not reproduce it after installing debug symbols) | 23:09 |
| tidux | aaah heisenbugs | 23:10 |
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| Selcuk_Ubuntu22 | hello guys | 23:14 |
| rascal | hello | 23:33 |
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