| sil2100 | o/ just a heads up: I am not fully around, as I'm distracted by life™ | 18:59 |
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| rbasak | o/ | 18:59 |
| seb128 | hey | 19:00 |
| teward | rbasak: i'm here, but i'mma make you pay for my coffee this time | 19:01 |
| bdmurray | o/ | 19:01 |
| rbasak | Here you go: ðµ | 19:01 |
| rbasak | #startmeeting Developer Membership Board | 19:02 |
| meetingology | Meeting started at 19:02:43 UTC. The chair is rbasak. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 19:02 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick | 19:02 |
| rbasak | #topic Review of previous action items | 19:02 |
| rbasak | kanashiro to update our wiki documentation with respect to our agreed packageset creation criteria (done) | 19:02 |
| rbasak | sil2100 update application docs and possibly DMB checklist, to make sure candidates have signed CoC before applying and before DMB approves (carried over) | 19:03 |
| rbasak | teward follow up to get all application process wiki/docs to explain the process to be able to edit wiki pages, for applicants who don't yet have wiki edit access (carried over) | 19:03 |
| rbasak | rbasak to add schopin to core-dev | 19:03 |
| rbasak | rbasak to announce schopin's successful application | 19:03 |
| rbasak | ^ mine are done | 19:03 |
| teward | carry mine over. | 19:03 |
| teward | just never enough time in the day/week | 19:03 |
| rbasak | OK | 19:03 |
| rbasak | #action sil2100 update application docs and possibly DMB checklist, to make sure candidates have signed CoC before applying and before DMB approves (carried over) | 19:04 |
| meetingology | ACTION: sil2100 update application docs and possibly DMB checklist, to make sure candidates have signed CoC before applying and before DMB approves (carried over) | 19:04 |
| * genii 's ears perk up for a moment | 19:04 | |
| rbasak | #action teward follow up to get all application process wiki/docs to explain the process to be able to edit wiki pages, for applicants who don't yet have wiki edit access (carried over) | 19:04 |
| meetingology | ACTION: teward follow up to get all application process wiki/docs to explain the process to be able to edit wiki pages, for applicants who don't yet have wiki edit access (carried over) | 19:04 |
| rbasak | I think that's all the actions? | 19:04 |
| rbasak | Since we have no applications today... | 19:04 |
| rbasak | #topic Long-term action items (do not need to be mentioned in regular meetings) | 19:04 |
| teward | * rbasak to send teward all the coffee | 19:04 |
| rbasak | Is anyone available to take any of these? | 19:05 |
| teward | that's missing :P | 19:05 |
| bdmurray | I am not | 19:05 |
| rbasak | In particular, the automated packageset stuff could do with some coding (rather than meeting attendence) attention | 19:05 |
| rbasak | #topic Outstanding mailing list requests to assign | 19:06 |
| rbasak | #info No recent ML activity | 19:06 |
| rbasak | #topic Open TB bugs | 19:06 |
| rbasak | #info | 19:06 |
| rbasak | There are currently no open bugs. | 19:06 |
| rbasak | #info There are currently no open bugs. | 19:07 |
| rbasak | #topic AOB | 19:07 |
| rbasak | AOB from anyone? | 19:07 |
| seb128 | speaking about packageset, I think we ended up not doing any refresh before the LTS right? | 19:07 |
| rbasak | I guess not | 19:07 |
| seb128 | L_aney replied to my questions on the list with details but I never found the time to digest that and do something about it | 19:07 |
| rbasak | I've on occasion manually added packages that are obviously correct | 19:07 |
| rbasak | Yeah it's not really trivial :-/ | 19:08 |
| seb128 | does anyone understand how that works better than me to work on doing a refresh? | 19:08 |
| seb128 | if not I will try to read L_aney's reply again and figure out what the changes listed are like they are | 19:08 |
| seb128 | I wonder if we should just go with it or if that's buggy and needs some sort of fixing though | 19:09 |
| rbasak | I don't think anyone currently on the DMB does understand it in detail. I roughly understand what it does, but that's it. | 19:11 |
| teward | ^^ that's about right | 19:11 |
| seb128 | :-( | 19:11 |
| teward | i don't think anyone really understands the tooling and it's probably much overdue for a rewrite, etc. | 19:11 |
| teward | but nobody has the time for it | 19:11 |
| rbasak | Right | 19:11 |
| seb128 | k, so more targetted question | 19:11 |
| seb128 | I'm interested to see the desktop set refreshed to include new things we had over the recent cycles | 19:11 |
| rbasak | I'd like to see it refactored to Python set arithmetic, and then we could easily have tests for specific cases that need fixing manually. | 19:12 |
| seb128 | should I just try to add those individual item in a first time? do we have a review process of some sort for such changes? | 19:12 |
| rbasak | But, I'm not volunteering, so that's just a suggestion. | 19:12 |
| rbasak | seb128: please do! There's no review process - we just ask each other as we feel appropriate. | 19:13 |
| seb128 | would be nice, but seeing how the carry over items already kept beeing carried over again and again I doubt a more complex project is going to do better | 19:13 |
| seb128 | rbasak, ok, thanks, will do | 19:13 |
| rbasak | Really it's the packageset changes that you push that you're taking responsibility as a DMB member for IMHO. | 19:13 |
| rbasak | And the tooling is just a way of helping with that. | 19:13 |
| rbasak | Thanks Seb! | 19:13 |
| seb128 | thanks! | 19:14 |
| seb128 | that was all from me | 19:14 |
| rbasak | Oh one sec | 19:14 |
| rbasak | You mean add the packageset packages manually, rather than working on the tooling? | 19:15 |
| rbasak | I think that's fine for you to just do as well, but maybe leave a note to devel-permissions@ to explain what changes you made? | 19:15 |
| rbasak | In other words, I'm fine with you using your judgement to decide that packages should be in the desktop packageset, but please leave a record of what you decided on the ML. | 19:16 |
| seb128 | right, well I will read L_aney's email again and see if I can figure out something better | 19:16 |
| rbasak | Sure. Thanks! | 19:16 |
| rbasak | Any other AOB? | 19:16 |
| seb128 | but if I don't find the time to work on that I will go the easy way and suggest the changes to fix the desktop set to match what we current provide | 19:17 |
| rbasak | +1 | 19:17 |
| rbasak | Thanks all! | 19:17 |
| rbasak | #endmeeting | 19:17 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 19:17:40 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2022/ubuntu-meeting.2022-06-13-19.02.moin.txt | 19:17 |
| seb128 | thanks! | 19:18 |
| kanashiro | sorry folks, got a power outage here :/ it got back now | 19:18 |
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