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mapreriddstreet, teward: meeting in 10 mins right?16:21
maprerierr, 8 mins!16:21
ddstreetyep16:21
ddstreeto/16:30
ddstreetmapreri teward around?16:30
ddstreeti have to wrap at the hour unfortunately, but i think we can get the mtg into 30 min16:30
maprerio/16:30
mapreriack16:31
ddstreet#startmeeting Ubuntu Backporters Team16:31
meetingologyMeeting started at 16:31:23 UTC.  The chair is ddstreet.  Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology16:31
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ddstreet#topic Previous Action Items16:31
mapreri(sigh, oops :( )16:31
ddstreet#subtopic ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over)16:31
ddstreetgotta carry over, but i hope to work on it soon :)16:31
ddstreet#action ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over)16:32
meetingologyACTION: ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over)16:32
ddstreet#subtopic mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress)16:32
mapreriI got on it today, fwiw, nothing uploaded yet16:32
ddstreetcarry over i assume?16:32
mapreriyep16:32
mapreribut it's happening !16:32
ddstreet#action mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress)16:32
meetingologyACTION: mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress)16:32
ddstreethurray! :)16:32
maprerinow to hope nothing interrupts me... /o\16:32
ddstreet#subtopic mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) (carried over)16:32
ubottuDebian bug 1001399 in lintian "lintian: adjust backports-upload-has-incorrect-version-number for ubuntu" [Normal, Open]16:32
mapreriso16:32
maprerihere16:33
maprerithe previous lintian maintainer stepped down, new one stepped up and they are hard at work on catching up with a bit of a leftoever mess (since the handover was very harsh and just didn't happen)16:33
mapreriI plan to poke a bit to get that into the eye range of the new maintainer soon16:34
mapreri.16:34
mapreri(in this way, I think it's fine not to work on a ubuntu-specific patch anymore)16:34
ddstreetsounds good, that's progress16:34
ddstreetshould we keep the item here?16:34
mapreriyes please16:34
ddstreet#action mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) (carried over)16:35
meetingologyACTION: mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) (carried over)16:35
ubottuDebian bug 1001399 in lintian "lintian: adjust backports-upload-has-incorrect-version-number for ubuntu" [Normal, Open]16:35
ddstreet#subtopic mapreri review wiki page to see how we can highlight that backport requestors need to do the backport work and find a sponsor16:35
mapreriok, _this_ slipped my mind16:35
ddstreetlol :)16:35
ddstreetthat's ok :)16:35
mapreriadding a note, this is really trivial16:35
ddstreet#action mapreri review wiki page to see how we can highlight that backport requestors need to do the backport work and find a sponsor16:35
meetingologyACTION: mapreri review wiki page to see how we can highlight that backport requestors need to do the backport work and find a sponsor16:35
ddstreet#subtopic mapreri handle debhelper backport including revert dep on debugedit for focal-backports (carried over)16:35
ddstreeti think this one is done?16:35
maprerimostly handled by ddstreet , thank you ♥16:36
ddstreetnp :)16:36
ddstreetthanks for reviewing!16:36
ddstreet#subtopic mapreri start thread on ML about how to use bug status to define meaing in process16:36
maprerithis of course didn't happen16:36
mapreriyou can leave it on me still16:36
ddstreetyeah, i think this will be good to do16:36
ddstreet#action mapreri start thread on ML about how to use bug status to define meaing in process16:36
meetingologyACTION: mapreri start thread on ML about how to use bug status to define meaing in process16:36
ddstreet#subtopic (unassigned) get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over)16:37
ddstreetshould we carry this over unassigned? do you want to take it?16:37
maprerino, I'm already a bit overloaded, sorry16:37
ddstreethow about i'll take it, since it's tooling-related16:38
mapreri(note that I'm not so overloaded to not be able to review a patch, if once comes my way)16:38
ddstreetbut of course anyone can do it if they have time16:38
ddstreet#action ddstreet get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over)16:38
meetingologyACTION: ddstreet get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over)16:38
ddstreet#subtopic (unassigned) look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs (carried over)16:38
ddstreeti'll take this one too, as part of 'tooling' work16:39
ddstreet#action ddstreet look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs (carried over)16:39
meetingologyACTION: ddstreet look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs (carried over)16:39
maprerior you could just leave it unassigned at m16:39
mapreriit's kind of clear we don't actually need such specilize tool to review the queue16:39
ddstreeti do hope to start looking at tooling by the next mtg16:40
maprerik16:40
ddstreetyeah we probably don't, but it's possible we just don't know what awesomeness we're missing ;-)16:40
mapreriheh16:40
ddstreetok that's all the previous items16:40
ddstreet#topic Open Mailing List Threads16:40
ddstreet#subtopic clarification on specific wording for no-bug-required backport exceptions16:41
ddstreeti guess we need to continue this on the ML?16:41
ddstreeti can send a reply to try to revive the discussion16:41
maprerifor myself, I'm good also without an up, it's just that I've got too many emails to read/write these months16:42
mapreriI don't understand, I feel like normally they aren't this many…16:42
maprerithese*16:42
ddstreet#action ddstreet send ML reply to continue thread re: clarification on specific wording for no-bug-required backport exceptions16:42
meetingologyACTION: ddstreet send ML reply to continue thread re: clarification on specific wording for no-bug-required backport exceptions16:42
ddstreetyeah, maybe just 'that time of year'?16:42
ddstreetthough summertime usually is *less* busy16:42
mapreriis it summer already? :O16:43
ddstreetit's around 40C where I am!16:43
mapreri/o\16:43
ddstreetthat counts as summer for me :)16:43
mapreri40c is enough to make me run away :P16:43
mapreri(says the person who is actually at 27 indoor already)16:44
maprerianyway16:44
ddstreetlol, yeah i am super glad i have a pool ;-)16:44
ddstreet#subtopic TB ML thread for charter16:44
ddstreetso, for this16:44
ddstreeti'd like to just clear up our charter a bit with some minor changes, and start using it as our 'official' rules16:45
ddstreeti don't like continuing to have just 'draft' rules16:45
ddstreeti can have an updated version by next meeting, if you have no objections (then we can discuss/vote on adopting the updated version)16:46
maprerishould we move more stuff from the charter into the internal policy?16:46
ddstreetand of course, any feedback from the TB in the future can be integrated into it16:46
mapreriand keep mostly the "mission" part of it?16:46
ddstreetyep i think so16:46
ddstreetwe can discuss now a bit if you want?16:46
ddstreetor i can make some changes and then we can discuss the details next mtg?16:46
ddstreetbut yeah, i agree with moving most of the details into internal policy, just keep core stuff in the charter16:47
mapreriif you already have a plan, is probably more efficient if you get a draft16:47
ddstreetsounds good, and i'll add an action to discuss the new draft next mtg16:48
ddstreeti dont think there is any hurry to get something in place, just would be good to make progress on it over the next couple mtgs16:48
mapreriack16:48
ddstreet#action ddstreet rework charter and internal policies documentation, have drafts for next mtg16:49
meetingologyACTION: ddstreet rework charter and internal policies documentation, have drafts for next mtg16:49
ddstreet#action discuss charter/policies drafts16:50
meetingologyACTION: discuss charter/policies drafts16:50
ddstreet#topic Open Bugs needing discussion16:50
ddstreeti don't think there are any?16:50
mapreriwaity16:50
maprerinah16:51
maprerithere is only one bug, but that is fine as it is16:51
ddstreet#topic AOB16:51
ddstreetany other topics?16:51
maprerinone from me16:51
tewardnope16:52
maprerioh, hi teward !16:52
maprerio/16:52
ddstreeto/ teward16:52
tewardi was delayed by FT job work phone meeting sorry16:52
ddstreetok last thing then is scheduling next mtg, we all ok with 1 month as usual?16:52
maprerithat makes it the 13th right?  That's perfect16:52
tewardworks for me16:52
mapreriwill any of you be at DebConf?16:53
tewardnope16:53
ddstreeti will not, i actually have a Canonical conf (sprint) that week, but i can attend from the sprint16:53
tewardtoo busy bashing my head against Windows servers at FT job >.<16:53
ddstreet#action ddstreet schedule next mtg for july 1316:53
meetingologyACTION: ddstreet schedule next mtg for july 1316:53
ddstreetok i think that wraps then!16:53
ddstreetlast chance before we end...16:53
maprericool16:53
ddstreet#endmeeting16:54
meetingologyMeeting ended at 16:54:14 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2022/ubuntu-meeting.2022-06-15-16.31.moin.txt16:54
ddstreetthanks mapreri teward o/16:54
maprerithank you for handling this!16:54
maprerialso sorry to have made you reschedule 2 weeks ago :316:54
ddstreetoh no problem at all :)16:54
teward2 weeks ago i had covid so wouldn't be here anyways heh16:57
tewardcoincidence how that worked in my favor xD16:57
maprerigood that you recovered, hopefully you didn't have any remnants16:57
mapreridon't*16:57
tewardlong covid exhaustion is all i still have16:57
tewardbut give me enough sleep and enough caffeine and that is handled xD16:58
mapreri:P16:58
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