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mapreri | ddstreet, teward: meeting in 10 mins right? | 16:21 |
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mapreri | err, 8 mins! | 16:21 |
ddstreet | yep | 16:21 |
ddstreet | o/ | 16:30 |
ddstreet | mapreri teward around? | 16:30 |
ddstreet | i have to wrap at the hour unfortunately, but i think we can get the mtg into 30 min | 16:30 |
mapreri | o/ | 16:30 |
mapreri | ack | 16:31 |
ddstreet | #startmeeting Ubuntu Backporters Team | 16:31 |
meetingology | Meeting started at 16:31:23 UTC. The chair is ddstreet. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 16:31 |
meetingology | Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick | 16:31 |
ddstreet | #topic Previous Action Items | 16:31 |
mapreri | (sigh, oops :( ) | 16:31 |
ddstreet | #subtopic ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over) | 16:31 |
ddstreet | gotta carry over, but i hope to work on it soon :) | 16:31 |
ddstreet | #action ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over) | 16:32 |
meetingology | ACTION: ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over) | 16:32 |
ddstreet | #subtopic mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress) | 16:32 |
mapreri | I got on it today, fwiw, nothing uploaded yet | 16:32 |
ddstreet | carry over i assume? | 16:32 |
mapreri | yep | 16:32 |
mapreri | but it's happening ! | 16:32 |
ddstreet | #action mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress) | 16:32 |
meetingology | ACTION: mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress) | 16:32 |
ddstreet | hurray! :) | 16:32 |
mapreri | now to hope nothing interrupts me... /o\ | 16:32 |
ddstreet | #subtopic mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) (carried over) | 16:32 |
ubottu | Debian bug 1001399 in lintian "lintian: adjust backports-upload-has-incorrect-version-number for ubuntu" [Normal, Open] | 16:32 |
mapreri | so | 16:32 |
mapreri | here | 16:33 |
mapreri | the previous lintian maintainer stepped down, new one stepped up and they are hard at work on catching up with a bit of a leftoever mess (since the handover was very harsh and just didn't happen) | 16:33 |
mapreri | I plan to poke a bit to get that into the eye range of the new maintainer soon | 16:34 |
mapreri | . | 16:34 |
mapreri | (in this way, I think it's fine not to work on a ubuntu-specific patch anymore) | 16:34 |
ddstreet | sounds good, that's progress | 16:34 |
ddstreet | should we keep the item here? | 16:34 |
mapreri | yes please | 16:34 |
ddstreet | #action mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) (carried over) | 16:35 |
meetingology | ACTION: mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) (carried over) | 16:35 |
ubottu | Debian bug 1001399 in lintian "lintian: adjust backports-upload-has-incorrect-version-number for ubuntu" [Normal, Open] | 16:35 |
ddstreet | #subtopic mapreri review wiki page to see how we can highlight that backport requestors need to do the backport work and find a sponsor | 16:35 |
mapreri | ok, _this_ slipped my mind | 16:35 |
ddstreet | lol :) | 16:35 |
ddstreet | that's ok :) | 16:35 |
mapreri | adding a note, this is really trivial | 16:35 |
ddstreet | #action mapreri review wiki page to see how we can highlight that backport requestors need to do the backport work and find a sponsor | 16:35 |
meetingology | ACTION: mapreri review wiki page to see how we can highlight that backport requestors need to do the backport work and find a sponsor | 16:35 |
ddstreet | #subtopic mapreri handle debhelper backport including revert dep on debugedit for focal-backports (carried over) | 16:35 |
ddstreet | i think this one is done? | 16:35 |
mapreri | mostly handled by ddstreet , thank you ♥ | 16:36 |
ddstreet | np :) | 16:36 |
ddstreet | thanks for reviewing! | 16:36 |
ddstreet | #subtopic mapreri start thread on ML about how to use bug status to define meaing in process | 16:36 |
mapreri | this of course didn't happen | 16:36 |
mapreri | you can leave it on me still | 16:36 |
ddstreet | yeah, i think this will be good to do | 16:36 |
ddstreet | #action mapreri start thread on ML about how to use bug status to define meaing in process | 16:36 |
meetingology | ACTION: mapreri start thread on ML about how to use bug status to define meaing in process | 16:36 |
ddstreet | #subtopic (unassigned) get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over) | 16:37 |
ddstreet | should we carry this over unassigned? do you want to take it? | 16:37 |
mapreri | no, I'm already a bit overloaded, sorry | 16:37 |
ddstreet | how about i'll take it, since it's tooling-related | 16:38 |
mapreri | (note that I'm not so overloaded to not be able to review a patch, if once comes my way) | 16:38 |
ddstreet | but of course anyone can do it if they have time | 16:38 |
ddstreet | #action ddstreet get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over) | 16:38 |
meetingology | ACTION: ddstreet get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over) | 16:38 |
ddstreet | #subtopic (unassigned) look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs (carried over) | 16:38 |
ddstreet | i'll take this one too, as part of 'tooling' work | 16:39 |
ddstreet | #action ddstreet look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs (carried over) | 16:39 |
meetingology | ACTION: ddstreet look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs (carried over) | 16:39 |
mapreri | or you could just leave it unassigned at m | 16:39 |
mapreri | it's kind of clear we don't actually need such specilize tool to review the queue | 16:39 |
ddstreet | i do hope to start looking at tooling by the next mtg | 16:40 |
mapreri | k | 16:40 |
ddstreet | yeah we probably don't, but it's possible we just don't know what awesomeness we're missing ;-) | 16:40 |
mapreri | heh | 16:40 |
ddstreet | ok that's all the previous items | 16:40 |
ddstreet | #topic Open Mailing List Threads | 16:40 |
ddstreet | #subtopic clarification on specific wording for no-bug-required backport exceptions | 16:41 |
ddstreet | i guess we need to continue this on the ML? | 16:41 |
ddstreet | i can send a reply to try to revive the discussion | 16:41 |
mapreri | for myself, I'm good also without an up, it's just that I've got too many emails to read/write these months | 16:42 |
mapreri | I don't understand, I feel like normally they aren't this many… | 16:42 |
mapreri | these* | 16:42 |
ddstreet | #action ddstreet send ML reply to continue thread re: clarification on specific wording for no-bug-required backport exceptions | 16:42 |
meetingology | ACTION: ddstreet send ML reply to continue thread re: clarification on specific wording for no-bug-required backport exceptions | 16:42 |
ddstreet | yeah, maybe just 'that time of year'? | 16:42 |
ddstreet | though summertime usually is *less* busy | 16:42 |
mapreri | is it summer already? :O | 16:43 |
ddstreet | it's around 40C where I am! | 16:43 |
mapreri | /o\ | 16:43 |
ddstreet | that counts as summer for me :) | 16:43 |
mapreri | 40c is enough to make me run away :P | 16:43 |
mapreri | (says the person who is actually at 27 indoor already) | 16:44 |
mapreri | anyway | 16:44 |
ddstreet | lol, yeah i am super glad i have a pool ;-) | 16:44 |
ddstreet | #subtopic TB ML thread for charter | 16:44 |
ddstreet | so, for this | 16:44 |
ddstreet | i'd like to just clear up our charter a bit with some minor changes, and start using it as our 'official' rules | 16:45 |
ddstreet | i don't like continuing to have just 'draft' rules | 16:45 |
ddstreet | i can have an updated version by next meeting, if you have no objections (then we can discuss/vote on adopting the updated version) | 16:46 |
mapreri | should we move more stuff from the charter into the internal policy? | 16:46 |
ddstreet | and of course, any feedback from the TB in the future can be integrated into it | 16:46 |
mapreri | and keep mostly the "mission" part of it? | 16:46 |
ddstreet | yep i think so | 16:46 |
ddstreet | we can discuss now a bit if you want? | 16:46 |
ddstreet | or i can make some changes and then we can discuss the details next mtg? | 16:46 |
ddstreet | but yeah, i agree with moving most of the details into internal policy, just keep core stuff in the charter | 16:47 |
mapreri | if you already have a plan, is probably more efficient if you get a draft | 16:47 |
ddstreet | sounds good, and i'll add an action to discuss the new draft next mtg | 16:48 |
ddstreet | i dont think there is any hurry to get something in place, just would be good to make progress on it over the next couple mtgs | 16:48 |
mapreri | ack | 16:48 |
ddstreet | #action ddstreet rework charter and internal policies documentation, have drafts for next mtg | 16:49 |
meetingology | ACTION: ddstreet rework charter and internal policies documentation, have drafts for next mtg | 16:49 |
ddstreet | #action discuss charter/policies drafts | 16:50 |
meetingology | ACTION: discuss charter/policies drafts | 16:50 |
ddstreet | #topic Open Bugs needing discussion | 16:50 |
ddstreet | i don't think there are any? | 16:50 |
mapreri | waity | 16:50 |
mapreri | nah | 16:51 |
mapreri | there is only one bug, but that is fine as it is | 16:51 |
ddstreet | #topic AOB | 16:51 |
ddstreet | any other topics? | 16:51 |
mapreri | none from me | 16:51 |
teward | nope | 16:52 |
mapreri | oh, hi teward ! | 16:52 |
mapreri | o/ | 16:52 |
ddstreet | o/ teward | 16:52 |
teward | i was delayed by FT job work phone meeting sorry | 16:52 |
ddstreet | ok last thing then is scheduling next mtg, we all ok with 1 month as usual? | 16:52 |
mapreri | that makes it the 13th right? That's perfect | 16:52 |
teward | works for me | 16:52 |
mapreri | will any of you be at DebConf? | 16:53 |
teward | nope | 16:53 |
ddstreet | i will not, i actually have a Canonical conf (sprint) that week, but i can attend from the sprint | 16:53 |
teward | too busy bashing my head against Windows servers at FT job >.< | 16:53 |
ddstreet | #action ddstreet schedule next mtg for july 13 | 16:53 |
meetingology | ACTION: ddstreet schedule next mtg for july 13 | 16:53 |
ddstreet | ok i think that wraps then! | 16:53 |
ddstreet | last chance before we end... | 16:53 |
mapreri | cool | 16:53 |
ddstreet | #endmeeting | 16:54 |
meetingology | Meeting ended at 16:54:14 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2022/ubuntu-meeting.2022-06-15-16.31.moin.txt | 16:54 |
ddstreet | thanks mapreri teward o/ | 16:54 |
mapreri | thank you for handling this! | 16:54 |
mapreri | also sorry to have made you reschedule 2 weeks ago :3 | 16:54 |
ddstreet | oh no problem at all :) | 16:54 |
teward | 2 weeks ago i had covid so wouldn't be here anyways heh | 16:57 |
teward | coincidence how that worked in my favor xD | 16:57 |
mapreri | good that you recovered, hopefully you didn't have any remnants | 16:57 |
mapreri | don't* | 16:57 |
teward | long covid exhaustion is all i still have | 16:57 |
teward | but give me enough sleep and enough caffeine and that is handled xD | 16:58 |
mapreri | :P | 16:58 |
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