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[16:21] <mapreri> ddstreet, teward: meeting in 10 mins right?
[16:21] <mapreri> err, 8 mins!
[16:21] <ddstreet> yep
[16:30] <ddstreet> o/
[16:30] <ddstreet> mapreri teward around?
[16:30] <ddstreet> i have to wrap at the hour unfortunately, but i think we can get the mtg into 30 min
[16:30] <mapreri> o/
[16:31] <mapreri> ack
[16:31] <ddstreet> #startmeeting Ubuntu Backporters Team
[16:31] <meetingology> Meeting started at 16:31:23 UTC.  The chair is ddstreet.  Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology
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[16:31] <ddstreet> #topic Previous Action Items
[16:31] <mapreri> (sigh, oops :( )
[16:31] <ddstreet> #subtopic ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over)
[16:31] <ddstreet> gotta carry over, but i hope to work on it soon :)
[16:32] <ddstreet> #action ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over)
[16:32] <meetingology> ACTION: ddstreet update tooling, requestbackport, backportpackage (carried over)
[16:32] <ddstreet> #subtopic mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress)
[16:32] <mapreri> I got on it today, fwiw, nothing uploaded yet
[16:32] <ddstreet> carry over i assume?
[16:32] <mapreri> yep
[16:32] <mapreri> but it's happening !
[16:32] <ddstreet> #action mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress)
[16:32] <meetingology> ACTION: mapreri upload (more of) all the tools (carried over, in progress)
[16:32] <ddstreet> hurray! :)
[16:32] <mapreri> now to hope nothing interrupts me... /o\
[16:32] <ddstreet> #subtopic mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) (carried over)
[16:32] <ubottu> Debian bug 1001399 in lintian "lintian: adjust backports-upload-has-incorrect-version-number for ubuntu" [Normal, Open]
[16:32] <mapreri> so
[16:33] <mapreri> here
[16:33] <mapreri> the previous lintian maintainer stepped down, new one stepped up and they are hard at work on catching up with a bit of a leftoever mess (since the handover was very harsh and just didn't happen)
[16:34] <mapreri> I plan to poke a bit to get that into the eye range of the new maintainer soon
[16:34] <mapreri> .
[16:34] <mapreri> (in this way, I think it's fine not to work on a ubuntu-specific patch anymore)
[16:34] <ddstreet> sounds good, that's progress
[16:34] <ddstreet> should we keep the item here?
[16:34] <mapreri> yes please
[16:35] <ddstreet> #action mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) (carried over)
[16:35] <meetingology> ACTION: mapreri fix lintian to not complain about ~bpo suffix (https://bugs.debian.org/1001399) (carried over)
[16:35] <ubottu> Debian bug 1001399 in lintian "lintian: adjust backports-upload-has-incorrect-version-number for ubuntu" [Normal, Open]
[16:35] <ddstreet> #subtopic mapreri review wiki page to see how we can highlight that backport requestors need to do the backport work and find a sponsor
[16:35] <mapreri> ok, _this_ slipped my mind
[16:35] <ddstreet> lol :)
[16:35] <ddstreet> that's ok :)
[16:35] <mapreri> adding a note, this is really trivial
[16:35] <ddstreet> #action mapreri review wiki page to see how we can highlight that backport requestors need to do the backport work and find a sponsor
[16:35] <meetingology> ACTION: mapreri review wiki page to see how we can highlight that backport requestors need to do the backport work and find a sponsor
[16:35] <ddstreet> #subtopic mapreri handle debhelper backport including revert dep on debugedit for focal-backports (carried over)
[16:35] <ddstreet> i think this one is done?
[16:36] <mapreri> mostly handled by ddstreet , thank you ♥
[16:36] <ddstreet> np :)
[16:36] <ddstreet> thanks for reviewing!
[16:36] <ddstreet> #subtopic mapreri start thread on ML about how to use bug status to define meaing in process
[16:36] <mapreri> this of course didn't happen
[16:36] <mapreri> you can leave it on me still
[16:36] <ddstreet> yeah, i think this will be good to do
[16:36] <ddstreet> #action mapreri start thread on ML about how to use bug status to define meaing in process
[16:36] <meetingology> ACTION: mapreri start thread on ML about how to use bug status to define meaing in process
[16:37] <ddstreet> #subtopic (unassigned) get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over)
[16:37] <ddstreet> should we carry this over unassigned? do you want to take it?
[16:37] <mapreri> no, I'm already a bit overloaded, sorry
[16:38] <ddstreet> how about i'll take it, since it's tooling-related
[16:38] <mapreri> (note that I'm not so overloaded to not be able to review a patch, if once comes my way)
[16:38] <ddstreet> but of course anyone can do it if they have time
[16:38] <ddstreet> #action ddstreet get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over)
[16:38] <meetingology> ACTION: ddstreet get DEB_VENDOR=ubuntu dch --bpo to DTRT pls (carried over)
[16:38] <ddstreet> #subtopic (unassigned) look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs (carried over)
[16:39] <ddstreet> i'll take this one too, as part of 'tooling' work
[16:39] <ddstreet> #action ddstreet look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs (carried over)
[16:39] <meetingology> ACTION: ddstreet look at reviewer tooling such as 'queue' or other tools for reviewing/accepting/rejecting uploads, and closing the corresponding bugs (carried over)
[16:39] <mapreri> or you could just leave it unassigned at m
[16:39] <mapreri> it's kind of clear we don't actually need such specilize tool to review the queue
[16:40] <ddstreet> i do hope to start looking at tooling by the next mtg
[16:40] <mapreri> k
[16:40] <ddstreet> yeah we probably don't, but it's possible we just don't know what awesomeness we're missing ;-)
[16:40] <mapreri> heh
[16:40] <ddstreet> ok that's all the previous items
[16:40] <ddstreet> #topic Open Mailing List Threads
[16:41] <ddstreet> #subtopic clarification on specific wording for no-bug-required backport exceptions
[16:41] <ddstreet> i guess we need to continue this on the ML?
[16:41] <ddstreet> i can send a reply to try to revive the discussion
[16:42] <mapreri> for myself, I'm good also without an up, it's just that I've got too many emails to read/write these months
[16:42] <mapreri> I don't understand, I feel like normally they aren't this many…
[16:42] <mapreri> these*
[16:42] <ddstreet> #action ddstreet send ML reply to continue thread re: clarification on specific wording for no-bug-required backport exceptions
[16:42] <meetingology> ACTION: ddstreet send ML reply to continue thread re: clarification on specific wording for no-bug-required backport exceptions
[16:42] <ddstreet> yeah, maybe just 'that time of year'?
[16:42] <ddstreet> though summertime usually is *less* busy
[16:43] <mapreri> is it summer already? :O
[16:43] <ddstreet> it's around 40C where I am!
[16:43] <mapreri> /o\
[16:43] <ddstreet> that counts as summer for me :)
[16:43] <mapreri> 40c is enough to make me run away :P
[16:44] <mapreri> (says the person who is actually at 27 indoor already)
[16:44] <mapreri> anyway
[16:44] <ddstreet> lol, yeah i am super glad i have a pool ;-)
[16:44] <ddstreet> #subtopic TB ML thread for charter
[16:44] <ddstreet> so, for this
[16:45] <ddstreet> i'd like to just clear up our charter a bit with some minor changes, and start using it as our 'official' rules
[16:45] <ddstreet> i don't like continuing to have just 'draft' rules
[16:46] <ddstreet> i can have an updated version by next meeting, if you have no objections (then we can discuss/vote on adopting the updated version)
[16:46] <mapreri> should we move more stuff from the charter into the internal policy?
[16:46] <ddstreet> and of course, any feedback from the TB in the future can be integrated into it
[16:46] <mapreri> and keep mostly the "mission" part of it?
[16:46] <ddstreet> yep i think so
[16:46] <ddstreet> we can discuss now a bit if you want?
[16:46] <ddstreet> or i can make some changes and then we can discuss the details next mtg?
[16:47] <ddstreet> but yeah, i agree with moving most of the details into internal policy, just keep core stuff in the charter
[16:47] <mapreri> if you already have a plan, is probably more efficient if you get a draft
[16:48] <ddstreet> sounds good, and i'll add an action to discuss the new draft next mtg
[16:48] <ddstreet> i dont think there is any hurry to get something in place, just would be good to make progress on it over the next couple mtgs
[16:48] <mapreri> ack
[16:49] <ddstreet> #action ddstreet rework charter and internal policies documentation, have drafts for next mtg
[16:49] <meetingology> ACTION: ddstreet rework charter and internal policies documentation, have drafts for next mtg
[16:50] <ddstreet> #action discuss charter/policies drafts
[16:50] <meetingology> ACTION: discuss charter/policies drafts
[16:50] <ddstreet> #topic Open Bugs needing discussion
[16:50] <ddstreet> i don't think there are any?
[16:50] <mapreri> waity
[16:51] <mapreri> nah
[16:51] <mapreri> there is only one bug, but that is fine as it is
[16:51] <ddstreet> #topic AOB
[16:51] <ddstreet> any other topics?
[16:51] <mapreri> none from me
[16:52] <teward> nope
[16:52] <mapreri> oh, hi teward !
[16:52] <mapreri> o/
[16:52] <ddstreet> o/ teward
[16:52] <teward> i was delayed by FT job work phone meeting sorry
[16:52] <ddstreet> ok last thing then is scheduling next mtg, we all ok with 1 month as usual?
[16:52] <mapreri> that makes it the 13th right?  That's perfect
[16:52] <teward> works for me
[16:53] <mapreri> will any of you be at DebConf?
[16:53] <teward> nope
[16:53] <ddstreet> i will not, i actually have a Canonical conf (sprint) that week, but i can attend from the sprint
[16:53] <teward> too busy bashing my head against Windows servers at FT job >.<
[16:53] <ddstreet> #action ddstreet schedule next mtg for july 13
[16:53] <meetingology> ACTION: ddstreet schedule next mtg for july 13
[16:53] <ddstreet> ok i think that wraps then!
[16:53] <ddstreet> last chance before we end...
[16:53] <mapreri> cool
[16:54] <ddstreet> #endmeeting
[16:54] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 16:54:14 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2022/ubuntu-meeting.2022-06-15-16.31.moin.txt
[16:54] <ddstreet> thanks mapreri teward o/
[16:54] <mapreri> thank you for handling this!
[16:54] <mapreri> also sorry to have made you reschedule 2 weeks ago :3
[16:54] <ddstreet> oh no problem at all :)
[16:57] <teward> 2 weeks ago i had covid so wouldn't be here anyways heh
[16:57] <teward> coincidence how that worked in my favor xD
[16:57] <mapreri> good that you recovered, hopefully you didn't have any remnants
[16:57] <mapreri> don't*
[16:57] <teward> long covid exhaustion is all i still have
[16:58] <teward> but give me enough sleep and enough caffeine and that is handled xD
[16:58] <mapreri> :P
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