[11:37] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:40] <tomreyn> Hi BluesKaj
[11:43] <BluesKaj> hehe
[16:19] <mmikowski> RikMills: Results are in for 5.25 beta. Backlight and other hardware checks worked on all models. There are some other concerns thought that we need to validate and get back with you. At present, the most prominent are that (a) Vertical Panels get destroyed and will not reset (layout.js does not work correctly), and display layout may get screwed up on sleep.
[16:40] <mmikowski> RikMills: Looks like display layout is a operator error. I tested it a few times and it now appears to work correctly.
[16:52] <RikMills> mmikowski: thanks for that!
[16:53] <mmikowski> RikMills: we have much more detailed reports; the good news is of the hundreds of check points, that is the most severe. There may be others, but I won't be able to get to it for a few hours.
[17:13] <bkovacs7> When will KDE 5.25 be available in the standard Kubuntu backports for 22.04?
[17:26] <RikMills> bkovacs7_: KDE releases the 5.25.1 bugfix release on Tuesday, so hopefully after that if it fixes enough of the important issues
[17:35] <mmikowski>  RikMills: What's the best way to send you a detailed report? You can ping me a mmikowski@kfocus.org if you like.
[20:38] <mmikowski> RikMills: I have reviewed results with the tester, and the only substantial worry was the vertical layout issue. This is trivial to reproduce with our kfocus-vertical theme. We'll see if this is a problem with other vertical panels.
[20:41] <mmikowski> RikMills: Oh, two other issues: Plasma keeps shuffling around widgets when screens change or on login. Also, plasma remains seriously crashy, especially when changing themes.
[20:43] <mmikowski> The last two substantially decrease the user's faith in the system and are a substantial annoyance and time sink.  Users waste time restarting plasma or logging in and out. Then they move widgets only to have them get screwed up again on next sign-in. NOT a good first-touch experience. 
[20:45] <mmikowski> RikMills: Also, I dislike the new wallpaper; it is very busy and looks unprofessional compared to honeycurve.  Would prefer to preserve the former to preserve the brand, or at least include something a little flatter. IDK if you have any input to this, but there's some feedback :) 
[20:46] <mmikowski> RikMills: We'll qualify these finding; if there are certain bugs you'd like us to append to , just let me know. +cc Eickmeyer
[20:48] <mmikowski> RikMills: Final note: I suggest we do another round after 5.25.1 before release. I think it would be good for everyone to use the test lab resources to catch these sorts of bugs before general release.
[20:59] <RikMills> mmikowski: you can send to my kubuntu.org email