[02:49] <cores> i seem to remember an unofficial ubuntu iso with closed source nvidia drivers pre-installed. not sure how they did that. is that still a thing i can find?
[02:50] <cores> basically, i want to boot into a live usb session with the nvidia drivers already set up, i don't want to use nouveau
[02:51] <oerheks> 19.10 had that idea, but not enabled by default ( live mode)  https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/05/ubuntu-19-10-nvidia-drivers-iso
[02:52] <oerheks> if there are other unofficial images, bing/google it?
[02:54] <cores> oerheks: yeah.. i've been searching. haven't stumbled on anything promising. i know about pop!_os but i was hoping to avoid that too and stick with vanilla ubuntu as much as possible
[02:55] <oerheks> a live iso is not mend to be used as daily driver..
[02:56] <cores> true, i don't mean this as a long-term solution. just wanted to try something real quick.
[02:56] <cores> i might bite the bullet and just do a real install on another drive
[02:56] <arraybolt3[m]> cores: You could flash the ISO onto one drive, install Ubuntu onto a different USB drive and enable proprietary drivers there, then have a removable Ubuntu installation with your good driver\s.
[02:56] <arraybolt3[m]> *drivers
[02:57] <cores> interesting. i didnt realize that would work
[02:59] <arraybolt3[m]> cores: Just be really careful to not select your internal drive by default. If you have a USB drive other than the installation drive plugged into your system at the same time as you install, you should be able to select it.
[03:00] <cores> arraybolt3[m]: worth a shot, thanks
[03:02] <arraybolt3[m]> cores: Also, if it doesn't give you an option to select a drive, don't assume it's going to install to the right drive... You probably already knew that, but just in case, I'd hate for someone to unintentionally nuke their data.
[03:10] <cores> good point. i generally don't do anything unless i'm sure what it's going to do.
[03:29] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[03:30] <ShapeShifter499> I'm not entirely sure which to ask. But does anyone know what the difference is between UnityX and Unity8?   Seems like ubports is using Unity8
[03:30] <ShapeShifter499> *which channel to ask
[03:32] <Bashing-om> !touch | ShapeShifter499 Try at >>
[03:32] <ShapeShifter499> well is ubuntu on UnityX now?
[03:32] <ShapeShifter499> mainline regular Ubuntu?
[03:33] <oerheks> unityX is a community project, https://gitlab.com/ubuntu-unity/unity-x/unityx
[03:33] <ShapeShifter499> oh hmm
[03:33] <oerheks> so, no official iso of that one
[03:33] <ShapeShifter499> what's the major difference so far though?
[03:34] <oerheks> dunno, i see unity here, same Rudra https://ubuntuunity.org/blog/ubuntu-unity-22.04/
[03:34] <oerheks> it is still in community hands, like MIR too..
[03:42] <ShapeShifter499> oerheks, ah, weird.
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> manwhowouldbekin: did you fix your browsers issue?
[05:42] <rieser5> Hello, I want to install ubuntu server as basis for kvm machines. I understand that ubuntu core or ubuntu minimal are the best choices. Is this correct?
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> rieser5: you might wanna ask that in #ubuntu-server where our specialists gather
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> rieser5: being sundays, you might wanna idle a bit longer to get replys
[06:36] <Brian666> What software can I use in Ubuntu to turn it into a router?
[06:36] <Brian666> I'm going to purchase a Wifi 5.4Gbps PCIE card.
[07:02] <r4m47> hi all
[07:02] <r4m47> i am using ubuntu 20.04
[07:02] <r4m47> last time when i tried using ubuntu 22.04 LTS, i had issue in connecting to wifi
[07:03] <r4m47> wifi was very slow despite my actual network connection speed
[07:03] <r4m47> and i found that it is due to some bug in kernel 5.15
[07:03] <r4m47> through some forums
[07:04] <r4m47> so, the thing i would like to know is.. has anyone uses  ubuntu 22.04 now or would anyone know that the issue has been resolved?
[07:04] <r4m47> because i would like to upgrade now
[07:05] <r4m47> anyone using ubuntu 22.04 now?
[07:09] <r4m47> anyone here>
[08:55] <manwhowouldbekin> Hi, all. I am troubleshooting an issue on Ubuntu 22.04 where I cannot load web pages in browser. Elsewhere (messengers, IRC) the connection seems to work. It appears that whatever daemon was running at 34675 port is no longer running. My system proxy is set to manual and to localhost:34675. Is there a way to figure out why that daemon is not running and/or how to get it running again?
[08:57] <murmel> r4m47: It really depends on the wifi card, so nobody can really tell if it was fixed
[08:58] <murmel> manwhowouldbekin: did you look into journalctl to see why the service doesn't run anymore?
[08:59] <manwhowouldbekin> murmel, No I have not. I do not know much about this proxy service and not even sure what it's called.
[09:00] <murmel> manwhowouldbekin: so why did you install it then?
[09:00] <manwhowouldbekin> murmel, Install what?
[09:01] <murmel> the proxy
[09:01] <murmel> as this is not by default
[09:52] <floown> Hello. Where is the configuration folder for flatpak application, please?
[09:55] <KBar> floown: ~/.var/app/
[09:58] <floown> KBar: thanks
[10:17] <amrooting> guys, i have a folder containing 3 files (script.py, config.txt, results.txt) normally i put the folder in my home and run it. there. How do I make script.py available or executable by all users but they can' edit the config.txt/result.txt in their home. So they don't read, edit, move the script.py?
[10:17] <amrooting> script.py depends on config.txt which should be editable by users
[10:34] <KBar> amrooting: `chmod 0711 script.py` and `chmod 766 config.txt result.txt`
[10:34] <KBar> amrooting: and put it somewhere accessible to all, not just in your home directory
[10:39] <amrooting> KBar, every user would have separate config.txt which they can edit but script.py is one file run from /usr/loca/bin/script.py but it should read file from /home/ANYUSER/script_config_folder/
[10:41] <KBar> amrooting: if its set up to read the config files from standard XDG_CONFIG_HOME correctly, and the binary is in /usr/local/bin already, then you don't have to worry about unauthorized users moving it around
[10:41] <amrooting> KBar, so usually if my pwd is /home/KBar/script_config_folder/ i can just type script.py from pwd and it would read config.txt in /home/KBar/script_config_folder/config.txt
[10:42] <KBar> amrooting: you need to do that in your script
[10:42] <KBar> and initialize it properly
[10:43] <KBar> amrooting: what's the output of `printenv PATH`
[10:47] <manwhowouldbekin> murmel, I didn't install anything. There is some kind of a proxy daemon running at locahost:34675 on Ubuntu. I didn't install it.
[10:48] <manwhowouldbekin> murmel, My problem seems to be that it stopped running. If I turn the browser proxy to off, then the pages load. If I set it to "use system settings", then it stops working.
[10:56] <EriC^> manwhowouldbekin: what does 'lsof -i:34675' give?
[10:56] <EriC^> *sudo
[11:13] <manwhowouldbekin> EriC^, Nothing. Empty.
[11:14] <EriC^> manwhowouldbekin: try with sudo
[12:07] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:46] <manwhowouldbekin> EriC^, Same.
[12:48] <tomreyn> manwhowouldbekin: this seems to suggest that there is no service listening at localhost:34675. but then, that's what you already stated.
[12:48] <tomreyn> manwhowouldbekin: and i concur, no default ubuntu installation has a service running that is listening on this port. it's not even a commonly seen port, or one that a standard service would listen on.
[12:50] <tomreyn> manwhowouldbekin: which brings up the question: what makes you think that some service was running that was listening on localhost:34675 ?
[12:51] <tomreyn> manwhowouldbekin: do you have some vpn client installed? which ubuntu version is this? how did you install it? is it a recent, fresh installation?
[12:59] <manwhowouldbekin> tomreyn, What makes me think about a service on that port? - In my network settings, there was a proxy setting set to manual, and it was set to localhost:34675. I do not recall ever going in there. Hence, I had concluded that it was Ubuntu's default thing. In addition, when I do echo "$http_proxy", I get "http://127.0.0.1:34675/
[12:59] <manwhowouldbekin> " back.
[13:00] <manwhowouldbekin> tomreyn, My Ubuntu is 22.04. Recently I have installed OpenVPN and tried setting it up as a client (server being a machine elsewhere). I typically go a few days between reboots, so it is possible that I only saw this problem yesterday.
[13:01] <manwhowouldbekin> tomreyn, Another bit of info: when I switch Firefox from "use system settings" to "no proxy", it begins loading pages.
[13:02] <manwhowouldbekin> In general, I am wondering how important it is to have a local proxy and whether it is needed in the first place. I do not have much experience with that :/
[13:02] <tomreyn> manwhowouldbekin: so, your web browser uses the value of the http_proxy environment variable (when set to use "system settings"). now what you'll need to understand is how that was set in the first place.
[13:02] <KBar> tomreyn hackerZ and their cat, obviously
[13:03] <manwhowouldbekin> tomreyn, I think I have my answer! I have just recalled that I recently installed Lantern. It appears that whenever it is not running in the tray, its proxy service is not running locally. Seems to work now ... :/
[13:04] <KBar> :)
[13:05] <tomreyn> "Another surge occurred after the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine when internet freedoms in Russia were severely curtailed. " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lantern_(software)
[13:06] <tomreyn> i'm glad you found out how the environment variable was modified on your system
[14:14] <de-facto> how can i disable those annoying crash report popups?
[14:15] <de-facto> they always interrupt my workflow requiring root password etc
[14:15] <de-facto> i dont want any crash reports ever.
[14:22] <Maik> de-facto: https://askubuntu.com/questions/93457/how-do-i-enable-or-disable-apport
[14:25] <de-facto> thanks :)
[14:25] <Maik> you're most welcome :)
[15:08] <transhumanist> hi! what is the current way to do this since -x and -e are depreciated? https://superuser.com/questions/198015/open-gnome-terminal-programmatically-and-execute-commands-after-bashrc-was-execu
[15:08] <jhutchins> The real way to stop crash reports is to stop the crashes.
[15:08] <VIA> lol
[15:10] <transhumanist> you talking to me jhutchins? TO clarify I am trying to do what the url tile implies
[15:10] <oerheks> last part of the 1st answer?
[15:10] <oerheks> BASH_POST_RC='command1; command2' gnome-terminal
[15:11] <transhumanist> oh I miss understood I thought that required -x or -e switches
[15:11] <Maik> transhumanist: he didn't
[15:14] <transhumanist> last question why are they retiring the -x and -e switches?
[15:15] <jhutchins> transhumanist: No, de-facto was complaining about crash reports harshing his workflow.  I would think the actual crashes would be enough, but whatever.
[15:15] <transhumanist> ok no problem sorry to interrupt
[15:15] <VIA> i still dont know how to make a simple script / link / call a function and on average i get lots of passive aggresiveness for asking simple questions ^^eh OK
[15:17] <jhutchins> VIA: Not sure what your actual question is, but #bash has a LOT of people in it, all focused on bash.
[15:21] <VIA> thats actually not unhelpful on another level, thx jhutchins
[17:36] <de-facto> jhutchins, yes i know and agree, unfortunately its a closed source binary that crashes, hence i cant really do anything about it if i have to use it, and crash reports from ubuntu keep popping up until committed, hence very frequently
[17:41] <tomreyn> de-facto: see /etc/apport/blacklist.d/README.blacklist
[17:41] <tomreyn> you *may* want to just blacklist your one executable, but keep apport running in general
[17:45] <de-facto> hmm thats actually quite useful thanks for telling me
[17:46] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[18:30] <moldy> hi
[18:30] <moldy> i am trying to use the on-screen keyboard on an hp x360. it works fine in the termina, for example, but not in firefox or chromium.
[18:30] <moldy> the terminal doesn't activate if i touch the address bar in the browser
[18:31] <moldy> any idea how to debug this?
[18:33] <tomreyn> moldy: since firefox and chromium are snaps, this seems to be the common denominator there
[18:34] <moldy> tomreyn: hmm yup
[18:35] <enigma9o7[m]> You could try the only browser left in ubuntu repo that isnt snap... epiphany-browser....
[18:35] <enigma9o7[m]> Or you could try a non-snap browser from outside ubuntu... like chrome from google or firefox from ppa or mozilla....
[18:36] <moldy> tomreyn: i think a way to manually summon the keyboard would be fine as a workaround
[18:36] <moldy> googling suggests that swiping from the bottom should work, but that doesn't do anything here
[18:39] <ravage> moldy, if you are on Xorg maybe https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1061/on-screen-keyboard-button/ can help
[18:39] <ravage> the swipe up from the button seems to be wayland specific
[18:40] <moldy> ravage: it'a on wayland
[18:40] <moldy> *it's
[18:41] <ravage> maybe https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/4413/improved-osk/ works better
[18:41] <tomreyn> while that keind of defeats the purpose, you could also set up a keyboard shortcut to launch onboard
[18:42] <moldy> tomreyn: the device is a convertible and i am trying to make it work in tablet mode :)
[18:42] <tomreyn> right, that's what i thought
[18:46] <jpmh> I know that when the contents of a file are really small that the info is kept directy in the inode and not in a new section of disk.  What is the size limit for this?
[18:50] <moldy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1976328 seems to be my issue basically
[18:51] <ravage> so mark yourself as affected
[18:52] <moldy> ravage: yeah i probably will... i am helping a friend with her device right now and don't have my launchpad login info here...
[19:09] <Brian666> Does anyone know if IpFire is a good firewall?
[19:10] <ravage> !ot | Brian666
[19:39] <manwhowouldbekin> tomreyn, Thanks for your help with figuring out the proxy port thing. Sometimes pointers and questions really do wonders! :)
[19:40] <jhutchins> enigma9o7[m]: Is chromium a snap now?
[19:40] <tomreyn> manwhowouldbekin: glad i could help, you're welcome.
[19:40] <jhutchins> enigma9o7[m]: I thought you could still install firefox as a normal program from the repos (just not as bleeding edge).
[19:56] <Maik> jhutchins: chromium has been snap since Ubuntu 19.10
[19:58] <Maik> and firefox has been snap by default since 21.10
[20:05] <Marz> Isn’t snap slower ?
[20:09] <jhutchins> Depends on what you measure and how.
[20:09] <jhutchins> CPU cycles are cheap these days.