[09:23] <RikMills> mmikowski: not sure I want to change the wallpaper in backports. regular users expect top get the new plasma wallpaper
[09:23] <RikMills> however, if you want to ship a modified settings package for focus, you can do that
[09:25] <RikMills> you would also have to find a way of modifying the ubiquity-dm wallpaper path on your ISO
[09:27] <RikMills> maybe sed foo in capser bottom
[09:27] <RikMills> *casper
[10:36] <RikMills> mmikowski: I also wasn't aware that you had the backports PPA enabled by default on focus
[12:14] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:18] <RikMills> launchpad git looks broken
[15:56] <Eickmeyer> Fixing the wallpaper in ubiquity is a one-line change, but that's not nearly as important as the theme, which is also a one-line change we can fix on the Focus side.
[16:02] <RikMills> indeed. :D
[16:02] <Eickmeyer> Also, the plasma crash is a known bug which has been already reported mmikowski
[16:04] <RikMills> Eickmeyer: you do nothing with latte-dock in focus, correct?
[16:04] <Eickmeyer> RikMills: Correct.
[16:05] <RikMills> ok, 5.25 breaking it is less of an issue then, though it still needs sorting
[16:09] <Eickmeyer> Right, but mmikowski's issue is this is going out to people who are expecting a certain level of service and professional experience, so as you can imagine he's a little trepidatious.
[16:10] <Eickmeyer> But yeah, latte-dock is a non-issue for sure.
[16:11] <RikMills> Eickmeyer: then might have been good if I had known before a few days ago that focus used the backports ppa ;)
[16:11] <Eickmeyer> RikMills: I agree, there was a large communication lapes over the last few years.
[16:11] <Eickmeyer> *lapse
[16:12] <RikMills> lets keep it good going forward then :D
[16:12] <Eickmeyer> Yep. That was the intention of getting mmikowski in this room and part of my quassel instance/persistence.
[16:14] <RikMills> I am wondering if you would be better served with a separate PPA that backports deemed to be tested enough for you get copied to
[16:15] <Eickmeyer> That's a question and discussion we'd need to have with mmikowski.
[16:16] <RikMills> not that I would not hold back releases like the current one. I was not keen to push it before you all piped up
[16:16] <RikMills> but maybe you would wait a point bugfix release or 2 later than I would
[16:17] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, 5.25.0 seems to be a little messy, tbh.
[16:23] <mamarley> Isn't 5.25.1 supposed to come out today or tomorrow or something?
[16:23] <Eickmeyer> Tomorrow, iirc
[16:24] <RikMills> yep
[16:24] <RikMills> I will build and put it in backports-landing ppa for jammy
[16:25] <RikMills> there is a loooooooooooooooooooooooooong list of bugfixes
[16:25] <mamarley> And I assume in the normal places for kinetic too? :)
[16:26] <RikMills> mamarley: in the normal staging ppa as these tars will not be embargoed
[16:26] <mamarley> Thanks!
[16:26] <RikMills> plus uploaded to kinetic as soon as I know they build ok
[20:18] <mmikowski> RikMills: No worries about the wallpaper changing, just this one is so busy it causes problems with widgets. Hopefully they'll pick something different for 5.25.1. The big issues IMO are as summarized: All Vertical panel layouts appear broken; plasma constantly crashes on theme where layout change is selected; widgets appear to move themselves on sign-in. The first two are completely reproducable; the last we have yet to 
[20:18] <mmikowski> isolate.
[23:42] <mmikowski> RikMills: We should like to help ensure backports is well tested for everyone and would rather help squash bugs upstream than have them provide a bad UX and drive users away from the platform.  There may still be a good reason to have a separate backports-kfocus repo, but hopefully the value of intense testing across many devices would make that well worth it.  Of course, if it isn't needed, then all the better.
[23:42] <mmikowski> +cc Eickmeyer