[12:04] <daftykins> good afty peeps
[12:04] <zxmpi> good moaning
[12:05] <daftykins> diddledani: psst, don't fancy doing battle with Visual Composer do you? ;) Hayley's site keeps producing a blank editor D:
[13:00] <daftykins> oh, the magical reset button solved her problem this time, neat
[13:02] <davef> "have you tried turning it off and on again?"
[13:02] <daftykins> wordpress plugins aren't that logical ;)
[13:02] <davef> the world would be a happier place without wordpress
[13:03] <davef> i'm still not over them stealing some of my code many years ago
[13:03] <daftykins> could well be true, the reason they have this to begin with is that some dodgy business up in England cold-called them and for some reason they agreed and let them re-do their website
[13:03] <daftykins> even transferred away their domain, too
[13:04] <davef> many moons ago, wordpress didn't have any password reset method.  so i added that code, I made it available to others and I contributed it, but it was rejected.
[13:04] <daftykins> :O
[13:04] <davef> then in the next release, there's my code
[13:04] <daftykins> wow not even subtly edited to mask it?
[13:05] <davef> there were minor changes
[13:05] <davef> i wouldn't have minded if they would have at least mentioned in the release notes that it was contributed. 
[13:05] <davef> that's when i stopped using it
[13:06] <daftykins> well they certainly sound like a bunch o' nozzles