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[00:58] <trafficjam> what's the most likely cause that my non-dedicated gpu laptop can't detect a second monitor?
[00:59] <trafficjam> (both monitors are connected to a dock using DP, and my laptop is connected to the dock via USB C)
[00:59] <trafficjam> One monitor currently works
[01:01] <trafficjam> Actually I've got a DP and HDMI from monitor #1 connected to the dock, and a DP from monitor #2 connected to the dock
[01:01] <trafficjam> so maybe only the HDMI input is wrking
[01:26] <trafficjam>  setup works on a windows laptop
[01:26] <trafficjam> so this is an ubuntu issue
[01:26] <trafficjam> it's not caused by secure boot is it?
[01:53] <trafficjam> And people wonder the desktop linux isn't popular...
[01:53] <trafficjam> *wonder why
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[02:37] <enigma9o7[m]> You booted with both monitors turned on?
[02:37] <enigma9o7[m]> The most likely cause for me for my 2nd monitor (my tv) not to be on is cuz the tv wasnt on when I booted.
[02:38] <enigma9o7[m]> So I have to set it active, then it works.
[02:38] <enigma9o7[m]> or enabled or whatever the word is.
[02:39] <enigma9o7[m]> @trafficjam ah I see you asked that a while ago, so incase I happen to be a useful, heres a ping.
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[06:55] <SexFriend> Hi
[06:55] <sophie> :)
[06:56] <SexFriend> :)
[06:56] <SexFriend> What do you do here
[06:56] <sophie> have sex with friends
[06:56] <oerheks> read topic
[06:56] <SexFriend> ok funny
[07:09]  * red-0x71 i am waiting under oath to present my self to court even died innocently under The Most High will ... . SURELY SURELY TRUE ... . SURELY SURELY TRUE ... . SURELY TRUE TRUE ... .
[07:11]  * red-0x71 done that's all not even me want to appeal whatever i said is not True or what ever bullshit it is kids on that day ... . amen amen amen ... . surely surely true ... .
[07:57] <munzir> Hello all, can any one help me understand why this simple regex doesn't match 'ha ha' https://regex101.com/r/IXvSV3/1
[07:58] <funnyboy243> Hello there. That is a rather sweeping generalization.
[07:58] <geirha> ha ha doesn't start with grep -P, that's why
[07:58] <funnyboy243> I can't tell if start with grep P that is why. I am so glad you find this amusing, .
[08:00] <munzir> giesen_: Oops! I am not familiar with that site. let me paste it here then.
[08:00] <munzir> echo 'ha
[08:00] <munzir> ha' | grep -P '(.a[\p{C}\p{Z}]*){2}'
[08:00] <funnyboy243> "I am so glad you find this amusing, ."? giesen Oops? I am sorryto hear that you are not familiar with that site. Go ahead, , try to paste it here.
[08:02] <munzir> geirha, funnyboy243: I thought \p{C} or \p{Z} should match the line-feed. so I want ha to match twice with any kind of space in-between
[08:02] <funnyboy243> Can you speak any foreign languages? Like Crapanese. Tell me more. Why do you want it?
[08:04] <munzir> funnyboy243: Sure, In Crapanese, when we need to laugh we do it with line-feed between each syllable. so I want to mach "ha", then any kind of spaces, then "ha" again, hence the {2}, and sorry I am not a native crapanese speaker
[08:05] <funnyboy243> Good reason. Excuse me! Why do you want to do it so much? That's an interesting rationalization.
[08:07] <munzir> funnyboy243: actually I don't care about ha but I am trying to narrow down a problem I am facing to a simple example and I guess the problem is I don't know how to match line-feed
[08:07] <funnyboy243> Are they exactly the same?
[08:07] <munzir> funnyboy243: yes
[08:07] <funnyboy243> What's your favorite movie?
[08:07] <geirha> munzir: grep is line-based, it will match per line, so it will never match a newline
[08:07] <funnyboy243> Yea, munzir grep is line based it will match per line so it will never match a newline.
[08:07] <munzir> geirha: really?
[08:07] <geirha> (unless you tell it that lines end with null instead)
[08:08] <funnyboy243> Can you please let me talk about Mindy's ass! For real.
[08:08] <geirha> and I'm also not sure if the \p{...} stuff is defined for the pcre dialect grep -P uses
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[08:08] <funnyboy243> Also Could you ever be certain? I hadn't thought of that.. Yea, endscript stuff is defined for the pcre dialect grep P uses.
[08:08] <geirha> can someone please silence that chat bot?
[08:08] <funnyboy243> I often wonder if it can.
[08:09] <munzir> geirha: funnyboy243 is a bot?
[08:09] <funnyboy243> Are you geirha funnyboy243?
[08:10] <geirha> it's just talking nonsense, so either a chatbot or a troll
[08:10] <funnyboy243> Should I know it is?
[08:10] <munzir> geirha: how can I tell it the line ends with null?
[08:11] <funnyboy243> Tell me more about your .
[08:11] <geirha> either way deserving of a ban
[08:11] <funnyboy243> Are you free?
[08:12] <geirha> printf 'ha\nha\0' | grep -z $'^ha\nha$'
[08:12] <funnyboy243> I will mention that to Mindy.
[08:17] <geirha> but really, you're using the wrong tool for the job. Depending on what the actual goal is, awk, sed, bash or perl could be more relevant
[08:17] <funnyboy243> Umm. For real. I am using Telnet as a browser. And awk sed bash or perl could be more relevant is Depending on what the actual goal.
[08:18] <munzir> geirha: seems so, yes I am reading the text from files so I cannot append \0 to the strings
[08:18] <funnyboy243> Sounds delicious.
[08:19] <munzir> geirha: so you think I should use sed e.g to remove all those line feeds and then search or what exactly?
[08:19] <funnyboy243> Precisely. Yeah. I've never heard of them before.
[08:20] <geirha> munzir: that would depend on what the goal is. Removing the newlines is probably not necessary
[08:20] <funnyboy243> What does "munzir that would depend on what the goal is" have to do with Oatmeal? Are they exactly the same?
[08:21] <geirha> If any ops are online, funnyboy243 is sending unsolicited images via ctcp
[08:21] <funnyboy243> That is a hypothetical question.
[08:22] <hepatocyte[m]> funnyboy243: are you sentient?
[08:22] <funnyboy243> I think there might be a few exception.
[08:22] <hepatocyte[m]> ?
[08:22] <funnyboy243> Try telling me a funny joke!
[08:23] <hepatocyte[m]> funnyboy243: how many women does it take to change a light bulb?
[08:23] <funnyboy243> Do you have any conditions I should know about? Like Ass Burgers?
[08:24] <hepatocyte[m]> funnyboy243: I have cancer
[08:24] <funnyboy243> Are we still talking about JimBob1984 Day Leclaire Fairytale Weddings 02 Accidental Wife v1 point 0 html rar?
[08:25] <munzir> geirha: let's make it so simple. if you have lots of files and you just want to match the string I mentioned repeated twice, what tool would you use?
[08:25] <funnyboy243> I really wish I could go outside and play with the other kids in Elementary school! But I don't have it.
[08:28] <geirha> you could do something like this: awk '/^.a$/{ line = $0; getline; if (line == $0) found = 1; exit } END { if (!found) exit(1) }' file
[08:28] <funnyboy243> I could but let's get back to that later. Tell me more about your . That is a hypothetical question. How did you hear about Terry Swanson?
[08:28] <munzir> geirha: Oops! All this? ;)
[08:28] <geirha> whenver it find a line matching .a , it reads the next line, and if the two lines are equal, it will exit with success, otherwise the awk exits with 1 (failure)
[08:28] <funnyboy243> Tell me about your likes and dislikes? Not all of them? I am so glad you find this amusing, 09indico 15ThiefMaster pushed 1 new commit to 07master 10https github dot com indico indico commit b732cbe299e2a8a5aeacebd38b90b309abc37ca7.
[08:30] <munzir> geirha: seems it is more complicated than I thought. thanks anyway
[08:30] <funnyboy243> I think geirha seems it is a lot of things. In any case, Don't mention it.
[08:30] <geirha> python and perl can do multiline matching with regex, but standard tools like grep, sed, awk are line based and only match one line at a time
[08:31] <funnyboy243> Are all python and perl can do multiline matching with regex but standard tools like grep sed awk line based and only match one line at a time?
[08:38] <munzir> geirha: I thought -P would use the Perl features in grep. Ok, I will look in how to implement this in python another day
[08:38] <funnyboy243> So, what did you do today? I am very happy for you. Hey.
[08:39] <geirha> -P just uses the pcre regex library instead of using the standard regex dialects. It doesn't change the nature of grep
[08:39] <funnyboy243> Have you ever been to Europe? What does change the nature of grep ?
[08:48] <xheimlich> is there any thing I can do to reverse the colors of my entire screen? Preferrably easy to toggle on and off without resorting to an accessibility control panel (I'm using a tiling WM, not the built-in Gnome)
[08:48] <funnyboy243> I believe there is one, yes. Tell me a story.
[08:49] <munzir> geirha: ok, thanks a lot for all the help
[08:49] <funnyboy243> Did you know that my brain was sucked up by Mindy's ass for several months?! Luckily, my good friend got my brain back or otherwise I'd still be crapping in teh torletz at a random school bathroom.
[08:49] <Maik> !ot | funnyboy243
[08:49] <ubottu> funnyboy243: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[08:49] <funnyboy243> What time is it there?
[08:50] <Maik> funnyboy243: please stop it and move over to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:50] <funnyboy243> What time is it there?
[08:50] <Maik> !ops | funnyboy243 won't stop
[08:50] <ubottu> funnyboy243 won't stop: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant
[08:51] <funnyboy243> Michael Jackson really likes me! :D .
[08:52] <Unit193> funnyboy243: You're not funny, please take that elsewhere.
[08:52] <funnyboy243> I think there might be a few exception.
[08:52] <Unit193> This is specifically a support channel for the Ubuntu OS.
[08:52] <geirha> It's a chatbot
[08:52] <funnyboy243> You don't say.
[08:52] <Maik> Unit193: its a bot
[08:52] <funnyboy243> Who is Unit193 it?
[08:53] <Maik> thanks
[08:53] <Unit193> Yeah, well I tried to give it a chance.
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[09:13] <iomari891> greetings, I just upgraded to 22.04 from 21.10 and my lock screen is not accepting my password anymore
[09:40] <cluelessperson> the firefox snap seems to be crashing the hell out of my ubuntu DE
[09:44] <Maik>  cluelessperson Gnome?
[09:46] <Maik> No issues here with Firefox on 22.04 LTS. Do you have some add ons installed on Firefox? Maybe one or a few causes it to crash.
[09:47] <ogra> cluelessperson, sounds like https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2022-June/042116.html
[09:47] <ogra> (has nothing to do with the snap)
[09:50] <wez>  dislike snap with a passion
[09:50] <wez> I dislike even
[10:18] <cluelessperson> wez, I hate snaps
[10:19] <lotuspsychje> lets not discuss that here cluelessperson
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[10:51] <iomari891> Can I use wayland with nvidia 470 drivers or should I stay with x11?
[10:57] <murmel> iomari891: better to stay on x11 as nvidia still has to figure out their wayland game
[10:58] <murmel> and afaik 470 is not even wayland compatible
[11:03] <goddard> i completely lost my browsing session
[11:04] <goddard> guessing because ubuntu keeps messing with firefox?
[11:04] <goddard> any way i can get it back?
[11:04] <goddard> dont even have my extensions any more
[11:11] <murmel> goddard: you lost your whole profile?
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[11:39] <BluesKaj> Hi all
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[12:12] <BinarySavior> hello, i'm trying to create a .desktop file for vscode, the repo has this: https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/blob/main/resources/linux/code.desktop
[12:13] <BinarySavior> but it seems there is some task somewhere that will generate the .desktop file, but I can't find the task to generate the .desktop file in the docs
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> BinarySavior: i think snap desktop files are in a different location
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> BinarySavior: maybe /var/lib/snapd/desktop/applications/ ?
[12:41] <murmel> lotuspsychje: as the desktop file he linked is not complete, he was asking where to find the generation of that file. not where to find the snap desktop files
[12:41] <murmel> but as I never compiled code, no idea.
[12:41] <murmel> ahm vscode I meant
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> murmel: well i found https://snapcraft.io/docs/desktop-menu-icon-support
[12:43] <murmel> lotuspsychje: yes, still doesn't add anything to what BinarySavior asked ;)
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[12:52] <BinarySavior> lotuspsychje, I built from source I did not use snap
[12:53] <BinarySavior> the .desktop file is a template by the looks of it
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[13:19] <u0_a2048> how can i get terminal games (hangman)
[13:21] <eax_> @u0_a2048: sudo apt install bsdgames
[13:21] <u0_a2048> eax_: thats one game or multiple
[13:22] <leftyfb> u0_a2048: apt-cache show bsdgames
[13:22] <eax_> there are multiple games. apt info bsdgames will give you the list
[13:22] <u0_a2048> ok thanks
[13:22] <leftyfb> u0_a2048: you know you can search the ubuntu software store for "games" or type "apt list |grep game"
[13:23] <u0_a2048> leftyfg: ok
[13:23] <eax_> @leftyfb: grepping over apt comes with a warning. you're better off using apt search
[13:23] <leftyfb> eax_: the warning does not affect the results
[13:26] <eax_> @leftyfb: not at all, but apt search's script has a better implemented algo. Case in point. do an `apt list | grep hangman` and you wont get your desired result. Now do the same for apt search hangman -> and the first result will be the multicall binary for bsdgames
[13:28] <eax_> hence the warning amongst other reasons (subshells, instability in scripts, etc)
[13:50] <C0ckGobbLeR> hi
[13:50] <C0ckGobbLeR> I have a question
[13:50] <C0ckGobbLeR> can I ask
[13:52] <Maik> !ask
[13:52] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[13:54] <Maik> also please change your nickname C0ckGobbLeR
[13:54] <C0ckGobbLeR> shut the fuck up
[13:54] <leftyfb> that wasn't predictable at all
[13:55] <Maik> !ops | C0ckGobbLeR misbehaving
[13:55] <ubottu> C0ckGobbLeR misbehaving: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant
[13:55] <C0ckGobbLeR> help
[13:55] <C0ckGobbLeR> HELP 1
[13:55] <C0ckGobbLeR> SOMEONE HELP
[13:55] <C0ckGobbLeR> lol
[13:55] <C0ckGobbLeR> cocksucker
[13:55] <dsc_> im here, state your question
[13:56] <Maik> C0ckGobbLeR: read the channel guidelines and rules and behave
[13:57] <C0ckGobbLeR> ok, alright alright. I'm trying to flash ubuntu to my pendrive, what program should I be using on osx
[13:58] <leftyfb> C0ckGobbLeR: that would be an OSX question
[13:58] <leftyfb> good luck
[13:58] <C0ckGobbLeR> are you sure, I'm running osx virtualbox inside another linux
[13:59] <leftyfb> C0ckGobbLeR: you asked what OSX application you should run on OSX. That's an OSX question. Someone who installed OSX in a VM should be able to understand that
[13:59] <dsc_> damn an OSX question... now thats a bannable offense
[13:59] <C0ckGobbLeR> what should I run on linux to flash linux
[13:59] <leftyfb> dd
[14:00] <leftyfb> C0ckGobbLeR: of course, typing "flash linux iso on linux" into google would also be able to help you with these questions to which you already have the answer to
[14:00] <C0ckGobbLeR> alright, that was a successful Q&A, thank you folks
[14:00] <C0ckGobbLeR> I'll be back with more questions, all in good time
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[15:01] <xcm_> hi. is there a "proper" way for applying a patch on ubuntu kernel? e.g. so that it will try to apply it on the any future kernels and add it to grub automatically, etc
[15:02] <ogra> xcm_, try asking the folks in #ubuntu-kernel
[15:05] <matsaman> xcm_: maybe this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Livepatch
[15:05] <matsaman> if you're just building from source, it should be enough to master 'patch'
[15:06] <matsaman> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patch_(Unix)
[15:06] <xcm_> ogra: thanks, i'll try there
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[15:35] <llanhmod> oh great, had a question/concern about Livepatch but it started working. So...Hi.
[16:10] <andr01d> Hello, when I log out of an ssh connection to ubuntu 22.04 LTS, a clear command is executed. Is there a way to prevent this?
[16:11] <leftyfb> andr01d: I don't see the results you are getting
[16:12] <andr01d> I've already tried the removal of:  E3=\E[3J,  followed by tic as root...
[16:12] <andr01d> leftyfb, Thanks for reply! I log into a number of remote systems, this is only happening on this ubuntu 22.04
[16:12] <andr01d> I'
[16:12] <andr01d> I'm using xterm
[16:13] <leftyfb> andr01d: maybd try a more modern terminal emulator?
[16:14] <andr01d> haha your funny 8-)
[16:15] <andr01d> I found it, there was a ~/.bash_logout that contained clear...
[16:15] <leftyfb> andr01d: xterm isn't even installed by default in ubuntu. Or any other distro I have used in the past 10 years
[16:16] <andr01d> I don't run ubuntu on my workstation, it is on a remote machine to which I'm connecting.
[16:16] <andr01d> It's kind of funny to have a debian based distro suggest that things aren't modern enough 8-)
[16:17] <andr01d> No worries, sincere thanks for your reply!
[16:46] <Dilanka> hey
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[16:54] <matsaman> heyo
[17:01] <plujon> I am using Ubuntu 20.04 LTS and Wayland.  Using Vivaldi, Brave, or Chromium, with or without hardware acceleration enabled, my desktop sometimes completely freezes.  I can ssh into the machine and see that browser is consuming 100% CPU and gnome-shell is using less CPU and growing in memory.  Should I gather more information and report this bug somewhere?  If so, where?
[17:02] <leftyfb> plujon: maybe try with x11?
[17:03] <plujon> leftyfb: I stopped using X11 because with it I sometimes got strange visual artifacts: I periodically saw small areas of "static" appear and disappear where the screen was updating.
[17:04] <plujon> Switching to Wayland solved that problem.
[17:05] <plujon> I suspect the problem is some kind of live lock, but that's just a guess.
[17:05] <mekhami> i currently use `setxkbmap` to swap caps lock and escape. for some reason, this doesn't play nicely with LWJGL, which is sorta annoying cause i play minecraft on linux. Is there a lower level way to swap caps and escape that might be respected by LWJGL?
[17:15] <matsaman> mekhami: somethin' from the internet: https://superuser.com/questions/848010/xmodmap-remapping-doesnt-work-in-java-swing-applications-like-intellij-idea
[17:16] <matsaman> mekhami: you might also try higher level, like whatever your DE/wm provides for remapping
[17:17] <Guest30> Hi there
[17:18] <Guest30> is there a way to sum up numbers in a txt file using terminal??
[17:18] <leftyfb> yes
[17:19] <enigma9o7[m]> Yes.
[17:19] <Guest30> does it support fecimal seperator as a comma
[17:19] <enigma9o7[m]> It'd take some fancy long command with like redirects and stuff.
[17:20] <leftyfb> Guest30: you can use bash for this
[17:20] <enigma9o7[m]> well you could change them to dots if you had to with sed
[17:20] <leftyfb> Guest30: you might try asking in #bash
[17:20] <enigma9o7[m]> the bash command for add is expr($a+b) I think
[17:20] <Guest30> I tried this tool https://onlinenumbertools.com/calculate-number-sum but it doesnt accept comma seperators
[17:20] <leftyfb> remove the commas
[17:21] <enigma9o7[m]> You can use sed to change the commas to dots.
[17:21] <leftyfb> just remove the commas, don't replace them with dots
[17:21] <enigma9o7[m]> `sum=$(($num1 + $num2))`   is actually right btw, before i dunno what i was thinking
[17:22] <leftyfb> you can also use bc to sum numbers
[17:22] <rob0> there's a console spreadsheet, sc(1) I think?  Also bc(1) for CLI calculations.  And any interpreted programming language, like perl, python or ruby.
[17:23] <leftyfb> bash can do all of this
[17:23] <leftyfb> no need for other scripting languages
[17:23] <rob0> unless you are more proficient in those
[17:23] <leftyfb> Guest30: /join #bash
[17:23] <Dilanka> hello
[17:24] <leftyfb> rob0: in which case they wouldn't be asking for help
[17:35] <javaJake> Hey guys. I'd like to add a disk to my Ubuntu installation which uses ZFS, but I want to do it in a way that Ubuntu supports so that future upgrades don't stumble over my setup. Is there a recommended procedure for this?
[17:36] <ravage> command line: zpool, zfs
[17:36] <ravage> there is nothing ubuntu specific to add a disk
[17:37] <javaJake> I understand the official ZFS tools, but for example I know ZSys was in place at one point, and also that apt interacts with ZFS
[17:37] <javaJake> Alright
[17:37] <ravage> zsys is a thing if you installed the system with it
[17:37] <ravage> would still not change the way you add addidtional disks
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> ravage: was your zfs bug fixed on jammy?
[17:37] <ravage> lotuspsychje, no
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> should he worry for that then ravage ?
[17:39] <ravage> only if he installed Ubuntu on ZFS
[17:39] <javaJake> ravage: which bug is this?
[17:39] <cluelessperson> javaJake, what does "add a disk" mean
[17:39] <ravage> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1970066
[17:39] <cluelessperson> add a disk in what way?
[17:39] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1970066 in snapd (Ubuntu Jammy) "(Encrypted) ZFS breaks 22.04 installation" [Critical, Confirmed]
[17:41] <javaJake> cluelessperson: I'm adding a physical drive and would like to add it to my system. I expect to put it in its own pool and then make some filesystems with their own mount points.
[17:42] <javaJake> It's entirely for user data so I expect that the OS itself shouldn't care as long as it doesn't get in the way. But if there are any automated maintenance or detections, I don't want to confuse them.
[17:43] <ravage> i have 2 extra pools and Ubuntu runs on ZFS
[17:43] <javaJake> ravage: I have a 22.04 Ubuntu installed with ZFS checked off at install time, but I didn't encrypt thankfully. I haven't seen this bug.
[17:43] <ravage> no problems at all
[17:43] <ravage> and i dont know if encryption is a problem really
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> i bet 22.04.1 wil fix this ravage
[17:44] <ravage> i never had that bug on this system
[17:44] <ravage> a user joined here and reported it and i could reproduce it multiple times
[17:44] <cluelessperson> javaJake, what does "add it to my system" mean, for what purpose?
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> cluelessperson: lets not make a discussion out of support issues please
[17:45] <cluelessperson> javaJake, just to hvae more store available to the user?  or is it to interact with the installed base system?
[17:45] <cluelessperson> lotuspsychje, what now?
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> you can use  #ubuntu-discuss for that if you like
[17:45] <cluelessperson> I'm asking what he means.
[17:45] <cluelessperson> That's perfectly valid.
[17:46] <ravage> he wants to add a disk with ZFS in ex extra pool. he already said that
[17:46] <ravage> ex=an
[17:47] <ravage> so in conclusion: use the nornal command line tools and be happy
[17:50] <javaJake> cluelessperson: just to have more storage available
[17:51] <javaJake> cluelessperson: I wrote earlier: "It's entirely for user data so I expect that the OS itself shouldn't care as long as it doesn't get in the way."
[17:54] <rob0> javaJake: of course in a future install, if you're asked if you want to format that partition, say no. :)
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[18:20] <brkcore> guys, anyone on 22.04 having sound problems over bluetooth? headphones sound good, but bluetooth speaker sounds terrible, mono and very low quality
[18:21] <arraybolt3[m]> brkcore: You're probably set to the wrong Bluetooth audio profile. Open your audio settings, and see if you can change the audio profile from "HSP" to "A2DP".
[18:22] <arraybolt3[m]> brkcore: Note that this will likely make your Bluetooth audio sound leaps and bounds better, but it will also make the microphone stop working, so if you need the mic, switch the audio back to HSP.
[18:23] <brkcore> arraybolt3[m], i dont know how to change the profile in the terminal, and on the gui doesnt have much settings
[18:24] <arraybolt3[m]> brkcore: OK, see the System Menu at the top-right corner of the screen? Click that, then navigate to your audio settings.
[18:24] <arraybolt3[m]> (I'd be more specific, but I don't have a stock Ubuntu desktop on the screen in front of me ATM, I'm working off of memory.)
[18:25] <brkcore> oh right, yes I have the settings
[18:25] <arraybolt3[m]> Hold on, I'm opening a VM, then I can give you specific directions.
[18:26] <arraybolt3[m]> OK, see underneath the volume slider, where you can select an audio device? Click that drop-down.
[18:26] <brkcore> it is already a2dp
[18:26] <brkcore> arraybolt3[m],  thank you
[18:26] <arraybolt3[m]> brkcore: What's the mic device set to?
[18:27] <arraybolt3[m]> Yeah, sure.
[18:27] <brkcore> mike is disabled
[18:27] <arraybolt3[m]> brkcore: Try setting it to "HSP", then back to "A2DP" and see if that slaps it into working.
[18:27] <brkcore> but thats because I have no sound and mic from the laptop
[18:27] <brkcore> ok ill try
[18:28] <brkcore> well yeah, HSP definitely sounds worst
[18:28] <brkcore> actually ill try different source
[18:29] <arraybolt3[m]> brkcore: But then putting it back to A2DP doesn't make it sound good? (Yeah, HSP sounds like trash, that's why I thought it had defaulted to that.)
[18:30] <brkcore> I am really sorry, it turns out youtube is fine, its just the VLC cosing problems, and can't really catch it on the headphones. I will play around with the vlc settings
[18:31] <brkcore> but it still sounds .... not quite good. My volume is 90% up on the ubuntu
[18:31] <arraybolt3[m]> brkcore: Have you used these earbuds or headphones on other devices (like your phone) with good results?
[18:32] <brkcore> yeah, so the headphones ive used on so many devices, including from this laptop with 20.04. SOunds great. Its just the speaker not good, but only on this laptop and OS
[18:33] <brkcore> the speaker sounds fine on all other devices
[18:33] <arraybolt3[m]> brkcore: That's... odd. Did you enable PipeWire by any chance? If so, switch back to PulseAudio and see if that helps.
[18:34] <brkcore> hod do I check if im using pipewire
[18:35] <arraybolt3[m]> brkcore: If you didn't do it on purpose, it's probably not there, but if you open a terminal, you can do "pactl info | grep "Server Name"
[18:35] <arraybolt3[m]> and it should tell you (put the "Server Name" bit in quotes).
[18:35] <arraybolt3[m]> So:
[18:35] <arraybolt3[m]> pactl info | grep "Server Name"
[18:35] <brkcore> oh wait, arraybolt3[m] after I changed HSP to A2DP and back again, actually now its fine, so it was this. Maybe the speaker didnt get the profile, since its the first connection
[18:36] <brkcore> so .. thank you :) it worked
[18:36] <arraybolt3[m]> brkcore: Nice! Glad it worked. Sorry Bluetooth is so finicky, the in-development Ubuntu 22.10 is doing stuff that may fix it.
[18:37] <arraybolt3[m]> (Though that's still in early development, do NOT try to install 22.10 for production use yet!)
[18:37] <brkcore> arraybolt3[m], I know, im havving torubles with bluetooth since 18.04
[18:37] <brkcore> I will be staying with 22.04, even that theres no drivers for my soundcard, will be just waiting
[18:37] <brkcore> :)
[18:37] <arraybolt3[m]> But glad it's finally doing what it's supposed to.
[18:38] <brkcore> yep, thanks man
[18:38] <arraybolt3[m]> brkcore: 👍️
[18:56] <xheimlich> the keyboard settings I set with gnome-control-center don't stick when I log into spectrwm (a tiling wm).
[18:56] <xheimlich> opening gnome-control-center from within spectrwm doesn't help either.
[18:57] <xheimlich> what can I do? I have a startup script that fixes my touchpad stuff with xinput etc. but I don't know what to do about keyboard layouts.
[18:57] <xheimlich> "English (US, alt, intl.)"  is exactly the layout I want.
[18:58] <murmel> xheimlich: did you already tried to use localectl?
[18:58] <xheimlich> I didn't know what to google, I'll look into that.
[19:00] <xheimlich> spectrwm is increasingly looking less than optimal at the edges, but I'd need to take like a week's vacation to switch to something sensible like xmonad.
[19:01] <xheimlich> ouch, `localectl list-keymaps` fails to read a list of keynaps.
[19:01] <xheimlich> I did install 18.04 originally and update to 20.04. That's where my stuff broke.
[19:05] <xheimlich> anyway, localectl seems to be no help at all. I haven't tried *everything* but I'v tried everything that seems plausible in the first man page.
[19:06] <xheimlich> `localectl list-keymaps` => Failed to read list of keymaps: No such file or directory
[19:06] <xheimlich> that sounds like something that shouldn't happen though.
[19:18] <murmel> xheimlich: that definitely shouldn't happen
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[21:40] <asdasDASFDS> hello
[22:38] <moha> Where can I download Ubuntu-16.04.5-server-amd64 ?
[22:42] <sarnold> moha: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/16.04.5/
[22:42] <arraybolt3[m]> moha: https://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/16.04.5/ubuntu-16.04.5-server-amd64.iso Keep in mind the usual problems with using end-of-life software. If you need this release, supported, Ubuntu offers Extended Security Maintenance as a paid offering.
[22:43] <arraybolt3[m]> (To clarify, you can use this release for free like any other Ubuntu release, but it's end-of-life so won't get security updates or support - if you need the security updates and support, but also need this particular release, you can buy ESM.)
[22:43] <moha> ESM is free for 3 servers, isn't it?
[22:43] <sarnold> yeah
[22:44] <arraybolt3[m]> moha: Free for personal use, yes.
[22:44] <moha> +1
[23:37] <stormy1> Hi there.. on 20.04 using gcc-11 getting this error: "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find /usr/lib64/libmvec_nonshared.a: No such file or directory 2:20 AM <stormy> 2:11 AM <Guest32556> collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status"     although lib6c-dev is installed..  this looks similar to: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=806910 any chance that is still an open issue on latest ubuntu ?
[23:37] <ubottu> Debian bug 806910 in libc6-dev "missing libmvec_nonshared.a causes linking failures" [Grave, Open]
[23:42] <ravage> stormy1, gcc-11 is not available in 20.04: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gcc-11
[23:42] <ravage> support starts im 21.10
[23:45] <stormy1> SORRY!! I'm on 22.04 (not 20.04) It seems libmvec_nonshared.a should be part of lib6c-dev, but it is not..   tried both gcc-10 and gcc-11 both return same error...
[23:52] <wez> cluelessperson: snaps is the worst! That's usually the first thing I delete after install Ubuntu.
[23:54] <leftyfb> wez: lets not
[23:55] <ravage> stormy1, file a bug with "ubuntu-bug lib6c-dev"
[23:56] <wez> leftyfb: Lets not what?
[23:56] <wez> Are you OK?
[23:56] <ravage> wez, please dont start this discussion here for the 100th time. this is a support channel. use #ubuntu-discuss. you know better.
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[23:57] <wez> ravage: ? Have we met?
[23:59] <arraybolt3[m]> wez: As ravage said, this is a support channel. Using it for off-topic discussions during support sessions is against the IRC Guidelines.