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[19:05] <oerheks> blup
[19:05] <oerheks> https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/22/wsl2_windows_server/
[20:53] <arraybolt3[m]> I don't get it. If you wanted Linux containers, run Linux and LXD. If you wanted Linux containers on Windows Server, run a Linux VM and put LXD in that.
[20:54] <arraybolt3[m]> Hey, though, for those Windows Server 2019 users, the VM+LXD idea might actually work. I guess WSL2 is going to be a bit lighter than a VM+LXD... maybe.
[21:00] <oerheks> 5 years ago i would say ' horror', windows supporting ext4 natively
[21:00] <Bashing-om> arraybolt3[m]: ^ update: https://4sysops.com/archives/install-subsystem-for-linux-2-wsl2-on-windows-server/ .
[21:00] <oerheks> or exfat in the kernel :-D
[21:01] <arraybolt3[m]> It just seems like WSL2 is not going to ever be stable enough for server use. It would be like trying to run Windows applications on a Linux server and relying on WINE.
[21:02] <arraybolt3[m]> (Albeit, WSL2 is probably quite a bit more polished than WINE since Linux is open-source and Windows isn't, but you get my point - trying to make one kernel act like another is not the most reliable thing in the world.)
[21:03] <arraybolt3[m]> (I mean, I could be wrong - Linux does have a very stable userspace interface, so it might be OK.)
[21:07] <arraybolt3[m]> Also, people could just run a Linux server with LXD and then put a Windows Server VM on top of it. That would be even more secure IMO.
[21:07] <oerheks> wsl is never meant to run gui programms
[21:08] <hggdh> wsl *is* getting support for graphical programs
[21:08] <hggdh> officially
[21:08] <arraybolt3[m]> I saw someone manage to run Anbox in WSL the other day. Didn't work very well, but they did get the graphical window to appear.
[21:09] <arraybolt3[m]> oerheks: Another reason to run Linux on baremetal and put Windows Server in a VM. More functionality, better compatibility, possibly better security.
[21:11] <oerheks> hggdh, i guess with wsl3 ? not official yet,there are hacks though
[21:12] <hggdh> even with wsl2 (at least under W11 -- which I am still required to run, until we get the kinks off native Linux laptops)
[21:15] <hggdh> I am now able to fire off graphical thingies off wsl, with small issues, like mouse reverts to a right-handed one although my W11 has it as left-handed, and screen resolution goes to native W11 resolution)
[21:16] <hggdh> the screen resolution is the worst for me -- my laptop is 4k, and the graphical windows get VERY SMALL fonts
[21:18] <hggdh> but i do not use graphics a lot, my life is on the command line on WSL
[21:21] <hggdh> heh, just ran 'code' under WSL2, works nicely
[21:28] <hggdh> disregard, it ra the Windows 'code' :-(
[23:45] <daftykins> landscape is seriously iffy right now