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stormy1hi, sorry, the IRC window closed, when login again, all history is gone, so cannot see who wrote/suggested, in any event, opened this bug re: libc6-dev:    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/197937100:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1979371 in glibc (Ubuntu) "ld: cannot find /usr/lib64/libmvec_nonshared.a: No such file or directory  even with libc6-dev installed" [Undecided, New]00:17
ravagestormy1, nice :) is there an easy C program you can link and the command to reproduce it?00:19
ravageprogram as in code to trigger the error00:19
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geosmileMy firefox is really sluggish on my ubuntu box (with a 3090 + 3900X + 64GB RAM) - any ideas how to debug/fix this?03:23
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enigma9o7[m]try no extensions.... if that fixes it, restore them and remove them one at a time til you figure out which one03:27
matsamanenigma9o7[m]: might be easier to try an empty profile first03:36
matsamanback up your existing profile before you go poking around03:36
geosmilethere was a variable - gfx.webrender.force-disabled - set to true - and looks like the speed improved!03:42
Psil0Cybinyup that could do it03:47
deltreeyanyone have a good recommendation for a scheduler/job orchestrator?  I mean, I'm happy with cron, but I'd like something more substantial04:03
wezdeltreey: Depends what your VM / server does. If it was a backend of some description and was deployed to AWS, I would use AWS EventBridge scheduler to do that.04:05
wezAlso depends if you are containerising it or not04:06
deltreeywez, currently I'm just triggering jenkins jobs using jenkins as a scheduler/orchestrator.  Usually it's docker containers I'm starting, but sometimes it's more complicated (like using the AWS CLI)04:08
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morganumy update talk-back (response?) (message back to console?) has a lot of lines that start with a W: (except one E:, prolly for fail=null return.) - How long has it been like this and what are the changes? - A link would be great. Unless you do want to explain. Thanks.04:43
morganure (sudo apt upgrade) to be clear.04:44
morganuWait, forgot to mention I was experimenting. What would happen if I did update=grade 2 days in a row so it didnt need it.04:45
morganuW: Target CNF (main/cnf/Commands-all) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/signal-xenial.list:1 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/signal-xenial.list:204:47
morganueg many like that after reading packae lists. ---> sorry to bother you all. I hae not enough understandig to start questons except: What's that shiny thing?04:48
alkisgmorganu: the best reply at this point would be "your 16.04 is ancient and not supported anymore, upgrade to 22.04 instead of trying to fix any apt sources"06:15
wezdeltreey: Nice. I guess who is your audience too?06:20
wezDoes your CEO need to use it? or dev / ops?06:20
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enginhttps://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/screen-shot-record.html Shift+PSCR does a whole multi monitor screenshot for me, instead of an area i select06:29
ouyangHello!07:33
ouyangany topics here?07:34
computerwormHi ouyang, this is a Ubuntu support channel.07:36
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ouyangokay, got it.07:42
Maikouyang: if you just want to chat join #ubuntu-offtopic :)07:42
ouyangoh, sorry to disturb here.07:44
ouyangJust curious at what u r talking about.07:45
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chipasi have a lot of commands running in my system like  sh -c { ('/usr/bin/php8.1' '-      how do i kill all the processes like this?07:59
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dobbicorpdoing killall sh doesn't seem like a good idea08:00
fruity_tomatoythere is also pkill08:03
dobbicorpfruity_tomatoy: thank you08:09
geirhaperhaps kill the php process(es) instead08:18
osseIs it possible to assign these descriptive names somehow? https://imgur.com/a/7xyINLZ08:51
BedMan_Jun 21 16:20:38 cf-xcat-g02-43 sshd[3019207]: error: connect_to cfrw2infrgen01 port 80: failed.08:53
BedMan_Jun 21 16:20:42 cf-xcat-g02-43 sshd[3019207]: error: connect_to cfrw2infrgen01 port 80: failed.08:53
BedMan_doh...08:53
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BedManmispaste when shooting for a copy08:54
BedManosse: sure you can assign names to volumes08:54
BedManI don't do much with any gui tho, so I'm not sure which volume description would get filled in there in the file explorer gui08:56
osseBedMan: Not sure why I haven't tried this before, but stumbling around in Disks I was able to set the filesystem label, and that did the trick09:00
osseNice09:00
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Yosemitehi I am having a a silly issue with installing ubuntu 22.0411:09
Yosemitein the setup my wifi network shows up and I chose one and enter the details11:09
Yosemitethen after install there's no network connections11:09
YosemiteI am using a marvel chipset/adaptor and is a bit tricky because it doesn't physically have wifi or anything11:10
YosemiteI tried reinstalling (erase drive) and it's still like that ? ?11:10
Yosemitemainly weird because as I say the setup live usb shows the networks and takes my password11:11
Yosemiteif anyone has any tips <311:12
lotuspsychjeYosemite: could you journalctl -f from a terminal, then switch wifi off and back on, then provide us the output logs in a !paste please11:16
Yosemitehaha getting them to the web might be tricky but i'll take a look and see what I can do11:17
Yosemiteone moment11:17
lotuspsychjeYosemite: got a cable handy for your network?11:17
Yosemiteit doesn't have ethernet/anything -- silly usb-c "ultrabooks" lol11:18
lotuspsychjeallrighty11:18
Yosemiteit's got bluetooth I could potentially PAN to that11:18
Yosemitealso re; turn wifi off and on11:18
Yosemiteit doesn't show anything to turn off/on11:18
lotuspsychjeYosemite: check also; sudo lshw -C network , to see if your wifi driver=.... is loaded11:18
Yosemitethe confusing part for me is that it worked in the installer11:18
Yosemiteok one moment11:18
Yosemiteok so doing `journalctl -f`11:20
Yosemiteand saw I can turn on airplane mode11:20
Yosemiteso did that and it unloaded/disabled "WWAN"11:21
Yosemiteoh hmmm11:21
Yosemitere-enabling it11:21
YosemiteI get something pretty cryptic.. um11:21
Yosemite<warn> ... failure changing link (already in progress)11:22
Yosemitekernel: <red text> failed to poll offset [...]11:22
Yosemitemac power on failed11:22
lotuspsychjeYosemite: did you choose updates during setup?11:22
YosemiteI think so, yeah11:23
Yosemiteafter that it does report the wwan-enabled result "success"11:23
Yosemitelet me see what the second command does11:23
Yosemiteso `sudo lshw -C network`:11:25
Yosemite*-network DISABLED11:25
Yosemitedescription: Wireless interface11:25
Yosemite...11:25
Yosemitevendor: Realtek (the setup said it was a marvel...)11:25
lotuspsychjeaha11:25
lotuspsychjeyou got a switch somewhere for wifi?11:25
Yosemitejust airplane mode I think uhhhh :checking:11:26
lotuspsychjewhat does driver=.... say?11:26
Yosemitertw_8822be11:26
Yosemiteand yeah just airplane mode11:26
lotuspsychjeso module loading, thats good news11:26
Yosemitebut setup was showing networks with marvel driver i'm 99% sure11:26
Yosemiteand that's what I thought it had from windows also11:27
lotuspsychjewhats your current kernel version Yosemite , uname -a11:27
lotuspsychjesome wifi brands have sub chipsets of others11:27
YosemiteIt's a fresh install from the ubuntu 22.04 image/usb11:27
YosemiteLinux 5.15.0-25-generic #25-ubuntu11:27
lotuspsychjesince its realtek, they are kernel itchy, would be good to know11:28
Yosemitewell on windows I am 99% certain I had to use the marvell drivers11:28
lotuspsychjenot handy you dont got eth Yosemite , perhaps updates would fix this11:28
Yosemitelol yes indeedy11:28
lotuspsychjecurrent kernel version might like it11:28
lotuspsychje5.15.0-39-generic11:29
Yosemitelike it's not even showing networks but I can manually add them specifying literally every param but doubt it will work that way11:29
Yosemitethe setup saying "Marvell" atleast listed my networks haha11:29
lotuspsychjeYosemite: you got another usb network dongle to pull updates on?11:29
Yosemiteps they're basically like the 2nd rate ultrabook standard chips I believe11:29
murmelany way to maybe hook up a mobile phone hotspot? (usb)11:30
Yosemiteummmmmm I could maybe use my phone if there's easy android support built in11:30
murmelYosemite: if you can connect usb, it's literally in the notification to select11:30
Yosemitealright lets see11:31
Yosemitestill kind of problematic in 2022 haha11:31
Yosemiteethernet ports are becoming less and less common on portables11:31
Yosemitelol alright got some internet with a usb-c cable whos tip is twisting off xD11:34
Yosemitewill try an update/upgrade etc and see how that goes11:35
lotuspsychje!uptodate11:35
ubottuTo ensure you have all the latest known patches and security updates for your ubuntu installation, please update with the following command: `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade`. See also !upgrades and !security; you may also need to run `apt full-upgrade`.11:35
Yosemiteyeah cheers <311:35
Yosemiteok so did that, lots of updates including the kernel etc11:43
Yosemitestill no joy11:43
YosemiteI don't even appear to have 'ifconfig'11:43
Yosemitethat can't be good lol11:44
Yosemiteohh wait ok ok so there was a bit of progress11:44
lotuspsychjeYosemite: did you reboot after updates?11:44
Yosemitenot a lot but I do have a "wifi" button in the sys panel drop down now11:45
Yosemiteclicking it and selecting "select network"11:45
Yosemiteit just says no networks lol11:45
Yosemiteand yeah I did11:45
Yosemitein Settings panel now it also shows Wifi11:45
murmelhm fw missing maybe?11:45
Yosemiteand has the box ticked on in top right11:46
Yosemiteand aeroplane mode off11:46
Yosemiteno networks again11:46
YosemiteI can't imagine how it can even try to work without ifconfig11:46
Yosemiteor how it's not installed >.>11:46
Yosemiteunless it's drastically changed since 20.04 lol11:46
murmelYosemite: ifconfig is not used anymore11:47
Yosemiterealllyyy11:47
Yosemiteoh ok then!11:47
Yosemiteok well definite progress then lol11:47
Yosemitebut sadly still not even listing networks11:47
murmelif you want to see the same output of ifconfig it's now "ip a" which is ip address11:47
Yosemitelets see if it lets me turn on hotspot from it lol11:47
Yosemitelol it definitely does not work but SAYS it's working11:48
Yosemiteoh dear11:48
Yosemiteeven the QR code just says "check network" from my second device11:48
Yosemiteit does let me disable and re-enable the wifi through the gui11:49
Yosemiteand then looks like it's TRYING to find networks11:49
Yosemiteand just to reiterate when it in setup shows my Marvell adaptor with a long name/set of standards11:50
Yosemiteit does show the networks11:50
Yosemitethat's the major confusion point for me11:50
Yosemiteat some point it looks like it decided that the realtek driver would be fine though11:50
Yosemitewhich it clearly isn't ;p11:50
murmelYosemite: what does lspci say about your wifi device?11:51
Yosemiteill see if it's changed11:51
Yosemiteso lshw still shows "*generic DISABLED" ... vendor: Realtek11:51
Yosemitejournalctl -f still shows "failed to poll offset" "mac power on failed"11:52
Yosemiteand lspci....11:52
YosemiteRealtek Semiconductor11:52
YosemiteJust to be 1000% sure11:53
YosemiteI will boot off the live usb just to check 100% what it says11:53
Yosemite just while i'm waiting on that11:54
Yosemiteit wouldn't have anything weird to do with tpm/secure boot/etc ?11:55
Yosemiteseems unlikely11:55
YosemiteI just noticed in the bios it's still in <setup mode>11:55
murmelvery very unlikely.11:55
murmelhm seems to me you are missing the fw, but idk how the package is called in ubuntu11:56
murmelcan't find it on packages.ubuntu.com :/11:56
Yosemitethe firmware does appear to be loaded in lshw11:56
Yosemiteit does say DISABLED idk how/why/where lol11:57
Yosemiteok so even going into "try" mode on same ubuntu live usb11:57
Yosemitewifi works fine11:57
Yosemitelets see what IT says11:57
Yosemitehuh okay so it actually says it's using the RTL8822BE driver too11:58
Yosemitebut <works>11:58
Yosemitethe plot thickens11:58
murmelyup ;)11:59
Yosemiteonly difference is next to the interface "*-generic"11:59
Yosemiteit doesn't say "DISABLED"11:59
murmelon your installed system make sure that linux-firmware is installed i guess11:59
lotuspsychjeYosemite: you got secureboot enabled?11:59
Yosemitewhen I throw the airplane mode it still gives the same kernel errors11:59
Yosemitelotuspsychje: nope it's off11:59
lotuspsychjekk11:59
Yosemitemurmel: I just did a full update heh12:00
Yosemitewithout knowing a specific package it's hard to know what i'm doing12:00
Yosemitebut my mind is blowing that I even did a clean reinstall12:00
murmelsure, but if linux-firmware is not installed, you don't have the firmware that is required12:00
Yosemitewouldn't I have <bigger problems> ? :P12:01
Yosemitebut I am still marginally confused becaussseeee this isn't the wifi device label the SETUP uses, ill check now12:01
murmelnot really, as most hw has backed in fw, so most just work (with security holes and whatnot)12:01
murmelxD12:02
Yosemitewell s.... okay the installer shows Realtek too I must have been tripping or something idk12:02
Yosemiteok back to the real install12:02
murmelYosemite: maybe you werent 100% present?12:02
Yosemitelol possible -- I think I just confused it for another device12:09
Yosemiteok back in real install, reconnected to the internet, no more updates/upgrades12:09
YosemiteI do `sudo apt list linux-firmware` and it shows it12:09
Yosemitebut again if that's the right driver it seeeems to be loaded12:10
Yosemiteit's just... disabled12:10
Yosemiteso, how do I.. un-disable it :P12:10
Yosemitei'm also curious as to how/why this happened even moreso now I know it's just an RTL12:10
murmelYosemite: can you make sure that your firmware is actually on the disk /lib/firmware/rtlwifi/rtl8822befw.bin12:12
Yosemitesure one moment12:12
Yosemiteyeah it's there and a whole bunch of other stuff as well as /lib/firmware/rtl_nic12:14
Yosemiteand rtl_bt12:14
murmelyeah, ubuntu drops almost every blob on your disk ;)12:15
Yosemitethe journalctl bits I recapped showed it was loading it else it wouldn't have a small apparently not relevant issue outputting12:15
Yosemitewhen airplane mode on/off12:15
murmelokay now I am also rather perplexed what's going on12:15
Yosemiteso it does literally seem at some point it decided to disable that interface12:15
Yosemiteso, via what mechanism would that have occurred12:16
Yosemiteand how do I enable it in the "new" system12:16
Yosemiteaka no ifconfig etc12:16
murmelYosemite: look into ip link12:17
murmelcan't remember the top of my head which command it specifically is12:17
BluesKajHi all12:18
murmelYosemite: sorry, but I have to leave. Hope you can still figure out what's going on12:20
Yosemite`sudo ip link set *-generic up`12:20
Yosemite"cannot find device *-generic"12:21
Yosemitethat's the output in `sudo lshw -C network`12:21
Yosemiteer the name outputted rather12:21
Yosemite>.>12:21
Yosemiteoooo12:22
Yosemiteok so12:22
Yosemite`sudo ip link list`12:22
Yosemiteshows 2 devices; loopback and `wlp2s0`12:23
Yosemite`sudo ip link set wlp2s0 up`12:23
Yosemiteno error....12:23
YosemiteNo networks.12:23
Yosemite;p12:23
Yosemitemurmel: thanks for your time12:23
Yosemitein 'ip link list' it still says "DOWN" mode DORMANT12:24
Yosemitethis is so painful12:24
Yosemiteare we //SURE// this couldn't be related to secureboot or TPM or something12:26
Yosemitethe live usb boots in EFI12:26
Yosemiteit's literally the only difference I can think of12:26
BluesKajtry sudo dhclient12:26
hirootWhy Firefox Starts Slowly in Linux Systems12:27
BluesKajhiroot, probly because you're using the snap version of FF12:27
hirootI download from mozilla.org~12:30
BluesKajcheck FF help/about FF12:31
hirootHave you encountered my problem? Or what browser are you using? chrome?12:34
BluesKajFF mozilla12:35
YosemiteBluesKaj: hm `sudo dhclient` seems to hang12:38
Yosemiteseveral minutes now12:38
BluesKajhiroot, the snap version is very slow to load vs the mozilla version ... that was my experience12:38
Maikthe snap version of firefox starts up slow the first time. Besides that they have been working on improving the startup time for the snap version.12:39
MaikNo further issues here with the snap version of FF. It also depends on what kind of system you have, CPU, RAM, HDD or SSD.12:40
hirootI have to go back to Chrome~ haha12:41
hirootlinuxmint,I7 8xxx,16G,SSD1T12:42
Maik!Mint | hiroot12:43
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Maikhiroot: so you have to check at Mint's end, not here.12:43
hirootok12:43
Yosemitewell12:43
YosemiteI'm going to do something dramatic12:44
Yosemiteand enable secureboot etc12:44
Yosemitedo another clean install lol12:44
Yosemitewish me luck >.>12:45
lotuspsychjegood luck12:45
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YosemiteNo luck... Network worked fine again in live usb - going through the installer I appeared to connect to the network fine and it said it was "preparing device drivers" briefly which I sat and waited to finish before proceeding13:16
Yosemitedid the install, even said it was applying updates13:16
Yosemiteand then it boots andddddd <nothing> back to not even having a wifi section/button/tab at all13:17
Yosemitewhich presumably will come back after I use my phone to update it again...13:17
YosemiteBut still wont actually see any networks... The network I already connected to...13:17
YosemiteIt's literally just a generic as heck Realtek (RTL)13:18
Yosemiteand now it's running in proper EFI etc13:18
Yosemitenot that I really wanted that but it doesn't really matter xD13:18
Yosemitesame as before I can find the adaptor listed13:20
Yosemiteand do `sudo ip link <id> up`13:21
Yosemiteand it doesn't error but doesn't do <anything> and it remains down13:21
Yosemitein lshw it lists it as "*-generic DISABLED"13:21
Yosemitein lspci it shows it with no interesting details -- drivers are present and apparently loading/unloading in `journalctl`13:22
Yosemiteit does give a small error but it was literally just connected on the live usb... lol13:22
Yosemiteand gives the same error on the live usb13:23
Yosemitewhile working fine13:23
Yosemitegetting pretty frustrated tbh13:23
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hexo_<hexo_> hello everyone, i'd love to ask about14:11
hexo_<hexo_> https://paste.centos.org/view/13bc565114:11
hexo_<hexo_> how do i tell apt (or dpkg?) to select N14:11
hexo_<hexo_> i do have export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive DEBCONF_NONINTERACTIVE_SEEN=true14:11
hexo_any idea what to do? pretty please :)14:12
leftyfbhexo_: -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confold"14:15
leftyfbhexo_: dpkg --force-help14:16
hexo_mmmm, thanks /me looks14:16
hexo_thanks, seems like it worked14:28
Yosemiteso some further research14:29
Yosemitethere doesn't appear to be a dkms package available for the rtl 8822 BE14:30
Yosemite-_-14:31
Yosemitewhich, ofcourse, doesn't answer why it works from the live usb....14:31
Yosemiteclosest one was for the RTL8821CE14:32
Yosemiteso..... :stabs in the dark wildly:14:32
YosemiteI haven't run ubuntu natively for quite some time, just need to try a few specific things really (all requiring internet xD)14:32
Yosemitebut I have heard of these kind of nightmares14:33
Yosemitespecifically for networking for some reason14:33
jhutchinsThere should be a menu-based list of start-up servcices that you can check "on" or "off".  Why, in 2022, is a "Modem Manager" running at every boot?14:59
leftyfb!bug | jhutchins14:59
ubottujhutchins: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.14:59
wansingchengni hao15:00
YosemiteI honestly cannot believe how absolutely fkd drivers are in 202215:05
Yosemite(with Ubuntu I mean ofc)15:05
Yosemiteapparently, I need to clone some github repo -- requiring me to setup their new token auth -- which makes linux systems more accurately pin drivers to devices under marginally different revision names15:06
Yosemiteie RTL 8822be vs 8822ce15:06
Yosemitewhich both, in reality, work with the identical driver >.>15:06
Yosemitebut I need to install this totally random thing.. to identify it in a way that will work with Ubuntu.15:06
YosemiteI just... I need to sleep on this... Bloody hell ;/15:07
YosemiteIt's not an opensource issue to be clear because the driver it apparently will point it to WILL work fully 100% interchangably15:08
YosemiteI just have to... Fool my own system... To get <networking>15:08
YosemiteIt's also not a bug.15:10
YosemiteIt just is how it is...15:10
Yosemitethe situation doesn't seem much/any better for other kinds of hardware either by the same kinda stuff15:11
Yosemitexorg I guess works pretty hard at their compatibility testing stuff -- which is helpful but only one component heh..15:11
Yosemitegoodnight for now, will think on it some15:12
jessyhello?15:32
hexo_hello?15:32
jessyhow are ou ?15:32
jessyyou15:32
hexo_sick15:33
hexo_and you?15:33
jessyi,m fine thnx15:33
jessyi,m sorry you sick15:33
hexo_:)15:33
jessywhats is youre name?15:33
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kerfluffyhi15:53
silv3r_m00n2in kate text editor, the tab titles are showing the folder name along with the file name, how can i disable that ? this was not there in previous versions15:53
kerfluffyanyone know if it's possible to setup custom DNS resolvers for selected domains?15:53
kerfluffyi know it can be done on OSX15:53
hexo_silv3r_m00n2: if its not in settings, i advice you to get sources and patch it yourself15:54
silv3r_m00n2hmm, let me see if i can do that ...15:55
hexo_at least thats what im doing. since they dont care at all what users want15:56
leftyfbkerfluffy: you would need to setup a nameserver with forwarders to the other nameservers as needed15:56
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XeroineHello, does anyone know if there exists a script or something similar released by the Ubuntu devs that sets up GNOME just like it is by default on Ubuntu?16:33
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lotuspsychjeXeroine: gnome-tweaks has a reset to defaults button, if thats what you're after?16:36
jhutchinsI suspect he wants to clone the Ubuntu desktop to another distribution.16:41
Xeroineyeah16:43
Xeroineit's not like it's a lot of work but I just wanted to know maybe it exists16:44
Xeroinehaven't found anything in openSUSE repos so far16:44
leftyfbXeroine: so you're moving from openSUSE to Ubunut?16:48
leftyfbUbuntu*16:48
Xeroineno16:48
jhutchinsPerhaps the way to address all the spurious services would be an optional subrouting in the installer that prompted a list of services and modules to install and let you opt out of the kitchen sink.16:48
leftyfbXeroine: from Ubuntu to openSUSE?16:48
Xeroineno, I just like the Ubuntu's GNOME defaults16:49
leftyfbXeroine: then run Ubuntu16:49
Xeroineno16:49
leftyfbXeroine: then please seek support for your distro in their irc channel or other support mediums16:50
XeroineI mean I like that I'm not forced to use snaps and tumbleweed is has never packages16:50
Xeroinealright16:50
Xeroinenevermind16:50
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ElliriaHey there, are new Emacs windows treated as non-windows until they're saved?19:59
Xeroinehow hard is it to compile a version of GNOME with the changes Ubuntu developers have applied on top? if there's not like over 10 packages that are needed to compile and have it working then I was thinking of using openSUSE's open build service to build it. how many packages are needed to make it functional?20:41
Xeroineearlier today I found a github link to ubuntu's custom settings manager but I can't find it anymore20:42
oerheksdid you wipe your browser history?20:44
oerheksthis is the whole 4 branche https://code.launchpad.net/~git-ubuntu-import/ubuntu/+source/gtk4/+git/gtk420:44
Xeroinethis is just gtk4, no?20:45
ElliriaDo any of you know if new Emacs windows are treated as non-windows until they're saved or if they're just like any other Emacs windows?20:45
Xeroineanyways I found the settings manager here with some patches https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gnome-control-center/-/tree/ubuntu/master/debian/patches20:46
Xeroinebut what else would I need?20:48
ciscoafkXeroine why emacs :|20:50
Xeroineciscoafk: what? I didn't ask about emacs20:50
ciscoafkfine don't bite20:51
ElliriaI did.20:51
arraybolt3[m]ciscoafk: You meant to direct that at Elliria, I think.20:51
ElliriaI'm trying to help this person: https://groups.google.com/g/autokey-users/c/-HtzbHQGCqg/m/-LECp2R_BAAJ20:52
ElliriaThere seems to be something different about new Emacs windows and I was hoping to find someone in here who might know what it is.20:52
jhutchinsElliria: 874 people in #emacs20:54
ElliriaAh, thanks, jhutchins.20:55
XeroineI'd need to compile at least all the packages in ubuntu-desktop-minimal metapackage?20:57
IntelCore22.04 help20:59
IntelCorestarted upGrade get to it says 'do you want to...'  panel is too big for screen...21:00
jhutchinsIntelCore: Do you have backups?  Hit enter and see what happens!21:02
oerheksright mouse > resize?21:02
IntelCorelets try21:02
IntelCorenop21:03
IntelCorewont move21:03
IntelCoreno other menu comes21:03
jhutchinsIntelCore: Try y <enter>21:03
arraybolt3[m]IntelCore: Can you force-close the graphical window and do your do-release-upgrade from a terminal? Or are you already mid-upgrade?21:04
IntelCoredid21:04
IntelCoredid from a terminal21:04
arraybolt3[m]IntelCore: Maybe a silly question, but can you scroll down?21:04
IntelCorecan't scroll21:04
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oerheksuse tab and space to go on21:05
IntelCoredistribution upgrade panel appeared and then this big one on top21:05
oerheksis this bare metal or virtualbox?21:06
IntelCorethat closed21:06
IntelCoreme? is amd upgr21:06
jhutchinsIntelCore: To get any deeper we're going to have to know about the hardware environment.21:06
IntelCoreintel core i521:07
IntelCorehp 15 201521:07
IntelCore1360x768?21:08
IntelCoreIntel® Core™ i5-5200U CPU @ 2.20GHz × 421:09
IntelCorejhutchins,  any more u need?21:09
oerheksthis might be a fancy theme thingy, not respecting such windows.21:12
IntelCorecompiz?21:12
IntelCoremetacity21:13
IntelCoregnome 3.36.8 on x1121:13
jhutchinsIntelCore: Installed software shouldn't have anything to do with the initial stages of upgrade.21:14
IntelCorek21:14
jhutchinsIntelCore: Is this a laptop?  What is the display setup?21:14
IntelCorelaptop21:14
IntelCore16:9 at1360x76821:15
IntelCoreintel 5500u21:15
jhutchinsInternal display?21:16
jhutchinsWhat was the last step that completed successfully?21:16
IntelCoreterminal bash command opened upgrade.. and in a sec, it asked on a big new panel if I ws all this info, but no place to click on yeswanted to upgrade and it sho21:18
oerheksuse tab and space to go on21:18
IntelCorethe small panel is behind it21:18
IntelCoreyes used tab space.. it all went away21:19
IntelCoredo i start again?21:19
IntelCoresudo apt update21:20
IntelCoresudo apt upgrade21:20
IntelCoredo-release-upgrade -f DistUpgradeViewGtk3 -d21:21
jhutchinsIntelCore: Did the update/upgrade steps complete correctly?21:22
IntelCoreno21:22
IntelCorei dunno21:22
jhutchinsShould have been all text.21:22
IntelCoreclicked software updater. nothing needs update.. no place to click to upgrade21:24
jhutchinsIntelCore: Well there's yer problem right there: Don't try to do an upgrade with the GUY>21:29
jhutchinsGUI21:30
IntelCorewasn't21:30
IntelCoreit started with three terminal commands21:30
IntelCorea panel opened21:30
IntelCoreanother opened21:30
IntelCoreand the software updater is not getting an upgrade21:31
IntelCoreused tab+space.. that closed the panels21:33
tomreynwhy do you think you need to run "do-release-upgrade -f DistUpgradeViewGtk3 -d"?21:33
IntelCorehttps://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/upgrade-ubuntu-20-04-lts-to-22-04-lts/#Upgrade_to_22.04_using_GUI21:34
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tomreynthis is a third party guide on doing a GUI upgrade. did you not say you want to do an upgrade without the GUI?21:35
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IntelCoreI followed that, and ran into the panel - that stopped me from continuing21:37
IntelCoreis 22.04.1 lts available?21:38
IntelCore22.04.0 is21:38
tomreyn22.04.0 was released in april, as the name says. you use ubuntu daily, don't you?21:39
IntelCoresorta. dual boot21:40
tomreyn!yy.mm | IntelCore: I really thought you could know this my now21:40
ubottuIntelCore: I really thought you could know this my now: Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle21:40
IntelCoreso since April the upgrade has not started21:40
tomreyn!ltsupgrade | IntelCore21:40
ubottuIntelCore: Regular upgrades from the last but one LTS release to the latest LTS release, 22.04 "Jammy Jellyfish", are enabled days or weeks after 22.04.1 is released. This delay helps to ensure that any lingering issues are resolved before people upgrade production systems. If you'd prefer to upgrade now, use sudo do-release-upgrade -d21:40
IntelCoreContinue [yN]  Details [d]21:44
IntelCoreRestoring original system state21:44
IntelCoreAborting21:44
oranhello21:46
oranas a brand new linux user, I was wondering if anyone can point in the right direction to setting up my nvme raid 0 on this new kubuntu 22.04 install21:46
cbreakraid 0? living dangerously :/21:48
orannah this is just a game hosting server21:49
orannothing valuable to lose21:49
oranive been running raid 0 arrays exclusively on windows since 2018 and only had one wd black array fail21:49
cbreakI personally use ZFS. The installer can set this up, and you can later add an other device to the pool, making it "striped"21:49
oranoh cool21:50
cbreak(if you add it correctly, you get a mirror :D)21:50
cbreakbut the way ubuntu's installer sets up zfs isn't optimal21:50
oranhmm21:50
cbreakI think it's probably possible to do it manually, but I've not tried it yet21:50
cbreakand it's probably not something a new linux user would want to start with21:50
oranyeah i was on google and saw peopel saying something like mdadmn or somethign liek that but lots of people saying its horrible on ubuntu21:50
cbreakyes, md is an other way to get mirroring21:51
cbreakit probably also supports striping21:51
cbreakI think yet an other way is to use lvm21:51
cbreakI think the installer also offers installation on LVM, but ... not sure (also, I've not really used lvm myself, I think it should support something like striping, but don't really know. Maybe it's just concatenation)21:52
oranim really suprised at the ubuntu/kubuntu community and the progress linux has made since the last time I attempted to switch from windows in 201521:52
orani might actually be able to not go back this time21:52
cbreakI switched away from MacOS earlier last year. I quite like ubuntu.21:52
oranim liking it so far.  Ive been on it for 4 days now, and this is the longest I have gone since 1998 without rage quitting and going back to windows21:53
cbreakit's not the most up to date, it's not the most conservative LTS. It's widely supported. And it comes with zfs :D21:53
IntelCore that until it reaches RC state which isn't expected until after 14 April 2022, upgrade from 21.10 to 22.04 opens after the release of Ubuntu 22.04; however the upgrade path from 20.04 (to 22.04) won't be opened until after the release of 22.04.1 which is usually ~3 months after the initial release (ISO release)21:54
cbreak(and valve's work on steam / proton is great. It feels like I can play more games here on linux than I could play on MacOS)21:54
oranyeah i switched over to kubuntu because im told my 7d servers I hoste will run better on linux so here is hoping.  I already have steam installed but thats about it21:55
oranim still learning my way around21:55
orani think im lucky though, my 20 years as an avionics technician has given me some more patience for learning and troubleshooting systems21:56
tomreynthe easiest way to install ubuntu server with raid0 is to use the ubuntu server installer and do just that21:57
oranif im able to pick it up good enough on my server rig, Ill gladly switch my overkill main gaming rig over too21:57
morganuwow, I thought I was on #ubuntu-offtopic21:57
oranheey tom21:57
oranthanks for all the help this past weekend getting this installed21:57
morganunp rock on. I have never seen this is .. been over a decade.21:57
tomreynyou're welcome, oran.21:58
morganulol. not so holy are you, sysops. We appreciate you. No crit.21:58
IntelCorewhy no version 22.04 lts available ?21:58
orantom do you have any advice for setting up my nvme raid array on this kubuntu 22.04 install?21:59
sarnoldIntelCore: 22.04 will be offered to 20.04 users when 22.04.1 is released21:59
IntelCoremake me down a 22.04.0  ?21:59
IntelCoreiso online as download21:59
sarnoldor use do-release-upgrade -d22:00
IntelCoreyes it aborted22:00
tomreynoran: i already gave it to you above ;)22:01
oranoh, I missed that message22:01
IntelCorefour months?22:01
oranI dont want to move to ubuntu server yet22:01
oranim to chicken22:01
orantoo22:02
tomreynoran: oh, well, moving from an existing installation to a raid is more difficult22:02
oranno i dont mean for my boot drive for now22:02
oranjust my storage for now22:02
tomreynoran: oh so you have three or more storage devices then?22:03
oranI have 2 860 evo's 2 crucial 1tb nvme's, and 2 wtb wdblacks22:03
oranI usually run them in 3 different raid 0's22:03
oranright now i just want to do the 2 nvmes in raid 022:04
oranare they 860 or 960 evos22:04
orani dont remember, they are old22:04
IntelCorefrom Ubuntu 21.10:22:05
IntelCore    Upgrades to 22.04 LTS are currently not enabled (due a bug with snapd and update-notifier) but will be in the next couple of days22:05
tomreynoran: here's how you can create a software raid with mdadm https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/RAID_setup22:06
orancool thanks again tomreyn22:06
IntelCoreso, right.. 8/4/22.. you get LTS22:06
IntelCorejust last time, got a 20.04.0 then got 20.04.0122:08
oranhow do i know if I have a kernal from the 4.x series22:08
IntelCorebut, you can get the iso..huh?22:09
tomreynoran: unmae -r    or    cat /proc/version22:09
tomreynIntelCore: i'm having difficulties understanding what you're asking. which ubuntu version are you meaning to upgrade from? i understand that you want to upgrade to 22.04.22:11
IntelCoreunfair -  I wanted to check out one of my systems today so updated 20.04 to 21.10 then updated 21.10 to 22.0422:12
jhutchinsoran: uname -a22:12
oranTy J22:12
IntelCore20.04 lts to 22.04 lts22:13
oranhttps://termbin.com/xojnv   https://termbin.com/8h9l  is it the #42?22:13
oranlook tomreyn, I remembered the termbin thing you taught me haha im not completely hopeless22:14
oranjust mostly22:14
tomreynoran: :) well done. pasting a single line is okay, though. #42 is the patch / build number (i'm not sure these are the correct terms, someone managing debian packages will know the proper terms to use).22:15
tomreynoran: to see the kernel packages installed (those you can choose from on the grub menu): apt list --installed linux-image*22:16
tomreynoran: you'll also see the 42 there22:16
tomreyn(as well as the 39)22:16
oranhmm22:16
orani didnt past it  lol looked up if it was |& or | nc and then typed it.  the text immediately following what ever "|" is called is what I forgot.  But I remembered | termbin.com 999922:17
tomreynoran: the actual information you were looking for is the 5.15(.0-39), though22:18
oranoooh22:18
orandoes that mean that as long as it is higher than 4.x it shoudl be ok?22:18
oranwell let me rephrase22:19
oranthe wiki says you need a 4.x kernal for raid setup, so im assuming then that 5.15 being higher ( newer?) is acceptable22:19
tomreyn| is a pipe, & is called ampersand. combining those in the bash shell casued the standard error output channel to be appended to the standard out output channel, and the combination of these to be piped into the following command.22:20
oranI understood most of that.  I have to learn more of the linux lingo before I can grasp it all22:21
tomreynoran: i guess the raid.wiki.kernel.org wiki is old enouhg to have missed that we've since reached kernel 5.x. but you'll be fine with this.22:21
orancool thanks22:21
sarnoldso long as it's talking about 2.6 or newer..22:22
orancan i run apt-get install mdadm from konsole or do i need to reboot and do it from grub22:25
sarnoldany terminal22:26
sarnoldgrub won't know what apt-get is :)22:26
oranahh22:26
orando i need to sudo22:26
sarnoldyes, administrative operations require administrative privileges22:29
orangot it, I did have to sudo, and I also had to not screw up and use = instead of -22:30
tomreynoran: yes, you need to run apt-get (or apt) with sudo to "install" (some other apt actions do not require sudo). that's because it needs the ability to make system-wide changes, by installing software.22:32
oranunderstood.  going to reboot be back in a minute22:33
oranback22:35
tomreynhopefully you didn't think you needed to reboot due to installing a new software package. ;-)22:37
oranno I isntalled a bunch of updates earlier and it told me to reboot but I didnt22:37
oranI figured might as well do it now since I installed that aswell22:38
oranthe software center had a bunch of updates22:38
tomreynoh alright22:40
oranjust got gparted too22:48
Bashing-omoran: Be careful and mindful with gparted - there is a reason the installer removes it from the default install :D22:55
oranhmm really22:55
oranI only remember it from waay back in 2015 when I last tried to go to linux from windows22:55
oranmy dad swore by it so i just downloaded it22:55
Bashing-omoran: one does not operate on a mounted file system - moving target. gparted is available on the live environment media.22:57
oranbe back in a minute, meathead pup needs to go out22:58
sarnoldhaha doggy22:58
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oranOut of "play with the server" time for the day, be back soon, take care and thanks for the help everyone.23:22
DOGEMEMEGOD_Dhi23:23
DOGEMEMEGOD_Dis there a way to drag a drop a url from chrome to the desktop so it creates a shortcut?23:24
oerheksyes23:25
oerheksnot to drop, but save as> filemanager opens > other location > computer > desktop23:25
BrooklyNitehello23:27
Dokturhello23:28
BrooklyNitehi ... havent been on IRC in over a decade23:29
Unit193I haven't figured out how to leave IRC, I've been stuck here for over a decade. :(23:29
Dokturwhat's irc?23:29
enigma9o7[m]Does that mean we're in for a super hard question?23:29
rob0Unit193: ikr?23:30
enigma9o7[m]The first time you use IRC in ten years and you join the ubuntu support channel, it's gotta be something super hard....23:30
BrooklyNitelmao ... are the usenet newsgroups still around?23:30
enigma9o7[m]Yes, usenet still exists.23:31
oerheksUnit193, sadly we cannot do the magic to show date of registering23:31
BrooklyNitenope ... just was playing with HexChat client for the first time, just to see what was out there .... i was a follower of #2600 back in the day23:31
oerheksanyway , welcome BrooklyNite to ubuntu support.23:31
Unit193oerheks: It's not quite accurate for me, but check /ns info on OFTC.23:32
Unit193BrooklyNite: This is Libera, it's geared towards FOSS projects, much like OFTC is too.  Feel free to check around, /msg alis help list  and happy to have you around.23:32
BrooklyNitethanks for the welcome ... i'll poke around a bit23:33
BrooklyNiteyou know since I am here I do have a question23:33
BrooklyNiteso I have a HDHOMERUN cable tuner, and I usually will use VLC media player to view content23:34
BrooklyNitebut I was wondering if its possible to click on a URL via it's web interface ... and have it launch VLC instead of me having to launch VLC manually, currently when I click on any of the video links, the browser I am using in Ubuntu will just start downloading an .MPEG file forever23:35
BrooklyNitecan I view an .MPEG file via Firefox, Chromium or any other Ubuntu based browser?23:35
sarnoldheh I wonder if the browsers still have a "file association" sort of tool23:36
DOGEMEMEGOD_Doerheks ok thanks23:37
BrooklyNiteyeah i have been scratching my head on that one ... nothing that keeps me up at night23:38
BrooklyNiteI came across this article:  https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Media/Formats/Containers23:40
BrooklyNitebut they don't show any browser compatibility for MPEG specifically23:41
sarnoldhttps://caniuse.com/?search=mpeg  maybe?23:41
oerheksmaybe your hd stream is drm protected?23:44
BrooklyNitenah ... hmm i just did some checking and it appears that the following browser available via the Ubuntu store works: Midori https://astian.org/en/midori-browser/23:46
BrooklyNiteApparently "Gnome Web" also works .... just doesn't work with Firefox or Chrome ... weird ... playing ".MPEG" works with Midori and Gnome Web23:50
BrooklyNitelearn something new every day23:50

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